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When you mean discount to invoice of 2250 , do you mean ""invoice price - 2250 "" OR the discount on the MSRP so that "MSRP -2250 ~ invoice " where ~ is almost equal to sign . In my case it is the latter one . if it is discount on invoice , it should go much below.
Keep in mind that was in June 09, a month after May 09 sales were down over 40%. With the June sales figures a little higher it seems local dealers have been offering less discounts.
The model had 14 miles on it, was loaded with the convenience package and floor mats (nothing else).
I also got good financing (5.99 % from Nissan). Although that may seem high, note that the 2 credit unions where I applied refused to lend me anything.
My salesperson was Phil Barnes. I used the internet for negociations. I had to push hard though. He definitely used a lot of sales tactics (always trying to get me there now, offering expensive financing).. but that's business. What was great with him though is that he kept his promises and didn't try to up the price when we came in. I definitely appreciated that.
From what the dealership told me the only reason they agreed on this price is that they had to meet their monthly quota. So, target EOM.
I got the Nissan $3,250 rebate. The rest came from the dealer. I paid $23,100 OTD + 5.99 % financing.
They had another car, which was I believe not loaded with anything but floor mats (same as the vehicle that you are quoting). The deal was $22,2k OTD.
I believe the cars price before tax and registration (but after fees) was $20,600 for mine and $19,700 for that other model.
Hope this helps
Tell them you have seen other people pay that price and don't see why you should spend 10 % more.
Most likely they will refuse, but some may call you back at the end of the month. Those are the ones who absolutely need to sell and you will be able to bargain with successfully.
You have nothing to lose.
NAH w/ Connection Package and sunroof for $25,300 after rebate incentive. After Hybrid tax credit, it will come down to $22,950
4 year registration in NJ - $206
Doc fee - $139
The big question is there a reason not to buy a 2009 instead with the price reduction and incentives being offered?
If a 2008 bought today will mechanically last as long as a 2009 and it's a few thousand less, it's something I'd consider. I'm the kind of person who keeps a car for 12 years and put 200K miles on them. Then I donate to PBS when it's worth $1000. If the 2008 with leather and navigation can be had for base 2009 pricing, that'll get me to take a look. My understanding from reading the forums is that a 2010 isn't going to be different from a 2007?
So if you are tempted to buy one and you aren't sure don't because you might run into this problem.
We just bought a NAH w/ conv pkg yesterday and was offered the Gold service plan for $1100. Just wanted to know if that's in the ballpark.
We did not buy the service plan at signing of docs, and when we asked if we can add it later we were told that we can as long as it's before the first oil change service due at 3750 miles.
The price we paid was $5000 of MSRP. This particular dealership is offering $5000 of MSRP on all NAHs.
Compared to what SF Bay Area dealers are asking now (MSRP + $1950 markup before discount/rebate,) it was a decent deal.
Are the Security Plus plan and Maintenance Plus plan different plans or same?
Can you let me know what dealership you got the 5K below MSRP? I assume this included the rebate?
Thanks.
The salesperson said they were having a sale and all NAH were $5,000 off MSRP which included all the rebates.
If you also have a clunker, which I did, then you get an additional $3,500 or $4,500 off.
http://nissanwarrantystore.com/altima-hybrid-coverage-gold-preferred-c-30_31.htm- l?page=3&sort=2a&osCsid=18152d151f32b5efc4b7158095ceb15e
Note that the Nissan rebate is taxable. You pay the tax on the amount before the Nissan rebate, and then they give you the rebate as a credit. The C4C rebate, however, is subtracted from the sales price before tax is computed, so that is a great deal.
I was offered the Maintenance+Plus program which covers scheduled oil changes, minor and major inspections, cabin filter changes and tires failure etc.
I was thinking these need to be done anyway in the future to maintain factory warranty so why not prepay and buy at a discount?
http://nissanwarrantystore.com/month-75000-mile-maintenance-coverage-p-836.html?- - osCsid=18152d151f32b5efc4b7158095ceb15e
Cost is $1505 right now.
http://nissanwarrantystore.com/maintenanceplus-c-40.html?page=2&sort=2a&osCsid=1- 8152d151f32b5efc4b7158095ceb15e
I would definitely recommend to anyone willing to buy the NAH to wait end of September or October and offer $9,000 below MSRP. Buying right now would be a terrible mistake as all dealers have already met their goals for the month.
Are the maintenance contracts worth it? I do most all my work on my cars as far as oil change, and tire rotation. The sales guys says they charge over $100 just for an oil change, is that true?
I paid less than $20 for an oil change at Firestone. I didn't get full synthetic oil but 5-30 which is acceptable. This was it's first oil change and I haven't seen a decrease in gas mileage. The next oil change will likely be at the dealer because they have some things that need to be checked unless I take it to a garage that specializes in hybrids.
kale - Since you paid for it up front with the maintenance program, you might as well take it in as often as they'll allow.
For everyone else, follow the maintenance schedule that came with the car. On my 2008, it's 3,750 miles for schedule one (more short trips, less highway) and 7,500 miles for schedule 2 (more highway, less short trips). There are some other guidelines so... check your maintenance schedule.
My advice to the average driver is to go with Mobile One 0W-20 synthetic and Schedule 2, the 7,500 mile interval.
I bought a 7 year 100k mile Gold preferred plan from vadennissanwarranty.com No deductible for $1935 My 09 altima hybrid had 1250 miles on it when I bought it. I called in to get a discount from their posted rates. Very friendly people.
Haven't had to use it yet. Hope I never do. I hate driving some vehicle that is not mine.
"Are the Security Plus plan and Maintenance Plus plan different plans or same?"
Different. According to VadenNissanWarranty.com
Nissan Maintenance+Plus Coverage
Nissan Maintenance+Plus is an easy and affordable solution to maintain your Nissan. Nissan recommends a regular scheduled maintenance be performed to prevent excessive wear and tear. We have a product that can deliver excellent service and long-term peace of mind. Maintenance+Plus provides four different service plans with five time and mileage options designed to fit a variety of personal driving habits.
Nissan Security+Plus Gold Warranty Coverage
Nissan Security+Plus Gold coverage extends to 1,816 components of your Nissan vehicle's mechanical performance. Choose Gold Preferred and this coverage increases to 1,954 components.
It seeems like a decent deal w/ maintenance+plus contract since the oil changes and minor/major inspections need to be done anyway, at least if they were done at a Nissan dealership, it would be a savings over the long run.
But then again I do most of the maintenance on my other cars (purchased used) and the only issue would be keeping the new car factory warranty valid if I do all the maintenance at home.
As far as the extended service warranty, I guesss it's an insurance against something going wrong after the factory warranty runs out. If this car was not a hybrid I would definitely not get the extended wrnty, but don't know a thing about the hybrid system.
Sorry for rambling...
Looks like I am not eligible for much on the Nissan maintenance plus side of the fence. Now that you chimed in, you got me thinkin about the cost savings over time. I can however get the Bronze plan which covers my essentials - oil change, oil filter and tire rotations. Just no inspections like that in Silver. Guess I snoozed and lost on that deal.
I think I may call them back and see what I can get 5 years worth of coverage for. May make sense since I do my oil changes at the Nissan dealer anyhow.
I bought a fully loaded '09 Altima Hybrid on 10/9/09 which stickered for $34,900; I paid $28,725 before taxes, licenses and fees. I am in union county NJ. That was the Edmunds TMV and what I shot for. However, when the sales manager wrote up the contract I saw that he included $4500 in rebates instead of the $3500 Edmunds had in the TMV.
Ever since I walked out of the dealership I have been feeling like I got taken for a little ride. At a minimum, I paid $70 more in taxes (since rebates are taxable). But, I am also feeling like there was $1000 more wiggle room that I did not take advantage of. Out the door from the dealiership I eneded up paying $31,637.15. with the Tax incentive I am solidly under 30k.
what do you guys think? Should I return the car (I have until tomorrow) or be happy with the deal I got?
BTW - Valuable lessons learned;
1. ask friends and family what dealerships they like for buying whatever make you decide on. after i closed my deal i found out that a nissan dealership not to far away offered free oil changes and loaner cars for life on cars purchased from them.
2. take back control. ask the dealer what the rebates and incentives are available when you sit down. then you right down your numbers and present your numbers to them. i can not tolerate the "let me go ask" process. I need to buy another car in about a month. I am actually contemplating showing up with a cashiers check for the exact amount i am willing to pay out the door so that i can cut down on the BS.
3. check the dealer's website before going to see if they have any special incentives. the dealership i bought from was offering a $250 gas card but i needed to present the coupon upon walking into the dealership. a scam i am sure, but i feel like i still missed out.
I used the internet (edmunds) for my purchase and am satisfied w/ the process. I negotiated remotely with several dealers in my area and nailed it down to a 1 dealer w/ the best price.
After we finalized the price, I asked for the "out the door" (OTD) price and prepared my own spreadsheet. When I got to the dealer I had my spreadsheets, my e-mails confirming the negotiated price and stating the out the door price. I made it very clear that "any" deviation from the purchase price and OTD amount will NOT close the deal.
Here are the final numbers:
Dealer Price: $32,075.00 (Invoice)
Less Rebates: $4,500
Less Dealer Incentive: $255
Purchase Price: $27,320
Add: Taxes + Reg: $3,625
Out the Door Price: $30,945.00
Financed w/ Nissan @ 4.34% (60 mo. term)
Color: Dark Slate
Packages: Convenience, Connection, Technology, Kick Plate, Moon Roof (fully loaded)
Regards,
-Prime
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=107766,00.html
You should talk to an accountant to see if you are eligible for the tax credit. I believe those subjected to ATM will lose some if not all of the credit.
Also, do you have any of the same info available for a 2010 loaded with an MSRP of $35k?
MSRP: $34,975
Final sold price: $31,380 - $800.00 below invoice.
CA Sales Tax $ 2356 - Tax deduction
Official fees $ 456.
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$ 34192
Cars CFC $ -4500
Nissan Rebates $ -3250
Hybrid tax credit$ -2350
CA Sales Tax $ -2356 approx deduction
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$ 21,736
Thank you President Obama! I finally got rid of my Dodge Caravan for the full Cash for clunkers credit.
Yes, it's still a good price but please direct your thanks toward your fellow tax payers for the CFC, Hybrid and State Sales Tax Rebates.