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I had a 2003 Accord V6 and I needed to replace the rear pads at 40,000 and thought that was early.
I wanted to post an update about my brake noise problem and inform everyone of some information I received yesterday.
I bought a '09 Accord in December and ever since 2000 miles (3100 now) the brakes have made the same horrible high-pitched noise. I have taken my car to Honda 4 times now. The first time they checked the problem but could not find anything. The second time they replaced the front pads and resurfaced the rotors. This stopped the problem for a day, then the noise came back with a vengance, louder and more often.
I opened a case with Honda's custmomer care line which was really no help because they were getting all of their information from me or the dealership. The service manager at my dealership would never ride in the car with me, saying that he trusted me and didn't need to hear it. The third time I took it to Honda I had a technician ride with me and finally he heard the noise. The technician told me that the noise is a result of a defective brake pad and that replacing more parts will not do anything. Further, the dealership could not get authorization to replace more parts.
Not satisfied with this answer, I scheduled a meeting with Honda's district service representative, who I met with yesterday. He and the dealership's service manager rode in the car with me and the noise was worse than ever. The district rep immediately gave authorization to replace the rotors and I was hopeful that this would solve the problem.
A few hours later the district represetative calls back and says that replacing the rotors will not solve the problem. He said that he just got off the phone with Honda's engineering department in Torrance, CA and said that they have come up with a fix for the defective brake pad and that now they are in the process of working with their suppliers to get the new pad out the door.
I had told him that the customer care line had suggested that I call the BBB to initiate that stage of my complaint and that I've looked into the state lemon law and if I had to I would file suit. He maintained that if I gave them a few weeks he was confident that they would have replacement pads that would solve the problem.
I don't know if others have heard this story before or if it really is true. I am trying to get confirmation of this from the customer line as we speak. I would suggest that for those that have not complained to their dealership yet to do so in the hopes that more complaints will encourage Honda to deal with this issue sooner if they haven't already.
As stated numerous times on here before, it is completely unacceptable for a brand new car to make this kind of noise, not to mention sounding worse than my 1994 Accord that sits in my garage.
GM tried this and it failed...why does Honda think it will work? The actions are the same on boht the GM and the Honda. Both performed horrible and got poor fuel mileage.
GM tried this and it failed...why does Honda think it will work?
Um, whatdya mean? Surely you aren't comparing the 2009 technology to the Cadillac engine of the early eighties.
They currently have a "Displacement on Demand" system in their 5.3L V8 engine, as well as in their 3.9L V6. I don't recall hearing of "horrible performance" or "poor fuel mileage" for their size. Chrysler's Hemi uses something similar.
My next car will definitely not be a Honda or some other car that utilizes this ECO stuff. I'll never buy another GM and will definitely not buy a Ford or Chrysler/Dodge product.
Had the salesman told me that this car had this ECO on it at the time I was thinking about buying it, I would have gone shopping for a different manufacturer. GD, I hate this ECO crap!
With all due respect, Honda spent a lot of time and money advertising VCM beginning with the 08 Accord (it was used previously on other models). Brochures, Honda's website, advertising... it was everywhere. Hard to believe you missed it. :confuse:
Can't go back in time though, so best of luck; sorry about the situation.
However, for those who might read these messages, I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression about Honda hiding the fact that the Accord V6 comes with VCM. They are quite proud of it, in fact.
On their website-- When you click on the Accord, you get this page:
Honda Accord
Under the heading "Powerful", VCM is the second bullet.
The brochure has a whole page (p.11) dedicated to VCM and how it works. It has pictures and everything.
Accord Brochure
Fortunately, people here have great forums to help them to do additional research besides what any carmaker might offer through advertising, what is on their website, or through written info.
Once again thank you for posting your dilemma and if I have any luck in finding/gaining a solution, I'll certainly share it.
Roger
You guys have a right to complain...
Diagnosis at engine failure: "Caused by Found 30 PSI in cylinder one. 130 in all others removed head and found exhaust valve burnt through." In English this means?? Thanks for your help in advance.
At first, the sound stutters in-and out, alternating ½ seconds with and without audio. When I try another channel - nothing. The radio does register the channel, song title & artist, but will not process audio on any channel. Not even the hiss you get with an obstruction.
Since it still is processing channel info, my guess is that there is a glitch in the XMs memory that causes it looses the ability to process audio. Just a guess - I've had a lot of quiet time to think about it.
Has any body found resolution to this issue with Honda? Please let me know.
Thanks!
When I serviced my 2008 Accord AT for 10000Kms in Honda service centre, informed me that they found minor transmission fluid leak hence want to replace the transmission assembly using honda warranty.
I don't find any reduction in fluid level but I don't why they are doing this. I suspect they will use my new transmission assembly for their own and replace me with new one as my car is in warranty period. Is it possible?
As they are the authorized service centre I am not able to avoid their advice also. As my vehicle is under warranty period I could not take it to other service centre.
How to check whether they replaced my transmission assembly with new one or old one? Can anyone advice me?
Regards,
Ari
The catalytic converters have a federally mandated 8 year or 80,000 warranty for vehicles manufactured after 1995. Unless I misunderstood your post, it sounds like you got cheated.
Roger
I have an update for you. The following is an internal memo posted on driveaccord.net regarding our problem on the '09 Accord. You can search their forum under the "8th Generation" Accords. They are asking for '09s that fall within a certain range of VIN numbers to bring their car into the dealership. I actually just brought mine in today and they are replacing the rotors and pads and sending the old parts back to Honda. They have cautioned me that this is not a permanent fix, as the replacement parts are the same factory parts that are causing the problem, but hopefully it will hold over until Honda fixes the problem.
Asking to talk to the District Service Rep is like asking for the Wizard of Oz. They will not give out his contact info and he can only be reached through the dealership's service manager. I was told that he comes to my dealership once every two weeks and I had to get off work and meet him in the middle of the day. Even after we talked he said the only way to contract him is via the dealership. I understand that he probably doesn't want harassing calls, but none of us want a car that squeals whenever you try to stop either! Enough ranting.
Here is the memo:
To: All Honda Service Managers/Advisors
From: Technical Research & Support Group
Re: Request For Parts: 2009 Accord (2Dr & 4Dr) Front Brake Noise
Print this iN message and provide a copy to the Shop Foreman and all Service Advisors.
Background
American Honda (AHM) would like to collect front brake pads, rotors and calipers from certain 2009 Accords (2 door & 4 door / EX only) with a customer complaint of the front brakes squeaking or squealing.
Qualifiers
AHM is interested only in 2009 Accords that meet the following requirements:
· Have no previous brake repairs of any kind.
· Accord EX ONLY starting with VIN:
1HGCP2***9A018106
thru
1HGCP2***9A999999
1HGCP3***9A007446
thru
1HGCP3***9A999999
1HGCS1***9A002794
thru
1HGCS1***9A999999
1HGCS2***9A001643
thru
1HGCS2***9A999999
JHMCP2***9C002071
thru
JHMCP2***9C999999
· The noise is coming from ONLY the front brakes.
· The complaint is ONLY squeaking or squealing.
Action Required
If you have or know of such a vehicle call Technical Research & Support (TRS) Group. TRS will record certain vehicle information and provide you with further instructions.
Thank you."
Tom
Plant City, FL
If you Google whether or not rotating tires is required, you'll get differing opinions. Some say they never rotate tires but will replace them 2 at a time, usually front ones first, and save the cost of rotattions. Over the life of the tires that can add up to couple hundred bucks.
Thanks,
BD