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According to DOT, the average driver in the US drives 13,476 miles a year. It is interesting to note on the NissanAssist website that the CVT warranty extension is 12y/120,000m.
I am no lawyer, but hope someone with legal expertise can comment on the class action lawsuit. It seems like potentially one needs to opt out if they find the terms unacceptable and can attend a Fairness Hearing on March 14, 2013 in White Plains, NY.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar8.htm
http://www.nissanassist.com/web/CVT/index.php?menu=8
http://www.nissanatoilcoolersettlement.com/Documents/NNS0001/Preliminary%20Appro- val%20Order(2).pdf
The agreement for the "eligible" customers to be reimbursed for previous replacement and repair it appears you had to be part of the class action suit, which is at the bottom of the page.
Several times since the suit was in the beginning process I tried to get through to this law firm in NY and was never replied to. So even though I sent them all the pertinent info I doubt we are eligible customers. But, I am taking that as a good thing. I would not be surprised if Nissan has set an amount for repair and replacement that is far below what many of us have had to pay, which is on the average of $5000.00 and $6000.00. Six thousand seems to be the most common number over the last couple years.
I would love to see a recall. There are too many variables with lawsuits and it bugs the hell out of me to see Nissan get off on any of this. I am still very concerned over the safety issues that they seem to not at all acknowledge.
Safety is what creates recalls, which leads to getting the transmission, radiator and anything related taken care of at no cost. And hopefully reimbursement for those of us stuck with these unsafe lemons. The more complaints they get that are safety related the better.
Also be careful in reporting it http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm to use these components as this is what NHTSA is doing the investigation on. The top two seem to have the largest number of complaints but there are some connected with the engine and cooling system so NHTSA is not getting the full picture of the number of complaints.
Component(s) :
POWER TRAIN
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM)
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:COOLING UNIT AND LINES
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:TORQUE CONVERTER
Folks, please keep reporting to NHTSA and make it clear it is a huge safety issue!!!! Only way for a recall.
Folks, please keep reporting to NHTSA and make it clear it is a huge safety issue!!!! Only way for a recall. PS this is the Facebook site: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/BEWARE-OF-2005-NISSAN-PATHFINDERS-/114117588602- 598?fref=ts
Now the real fun part to this "wonderful"news from this piece of crap company is that it comes with a...wait for it....CO-PAY! That's right! If one were to exercise the 10yr/100K miles you get to pay 3K yourself! How wonderful is that!!!!!! Oh thank you Nissan for extending the warranty on something that should be RECALLED. Your commitment to your owners safety and satisfaction is like no one else.
For those who have paid for fixes already there is an online claim form that you can submit in the next few weeks at www.nissanassist.com. Of course they state that this reimbursement is subject to certain terms, conditions, and exclusion. Wonder if I can get them to pay for all my rental cars and repairs that we not needed?????
Meanwhile I am very happy with my Honda Pilot and the quality of care that Honda provides to me as an owner.
I would not be surprised if they set it for something like $4000.00 and we end up paying $3000.00 being over 90,000 miles so end up with only $1000.00. I would rather keep pushing for a recall that will help everyone and teach Nissan a lesson about loyalty and ethics.
My previous message:
Looks like Nissan has extended the warranty again to avoid admitting a defect in the radiator. Here are the details with links:
Up to 8 years/80,000 miles (whichever comes first): No customer co-pay
After 8 years/80,000 miles (whichever comes first) up to 9 years/90,000 miles (whichever comes first): Customer co-pay is $2,500
After 9 years/90,000 miles (whichever comes first) up to 10 years/100,000 miles (whichever comes first): Customer co-pay is $3,000
http://www.nissanassist.com/web/Radiator/faqs.php?menu=22
http://www.nissanatoilcoolersettlement.com/CaseInfo.aspx?pas=nissanatoilcoolerse- - ttlement
Just a reminder as to how important it is to report the transmission/radiator problems to NHTSA. Concentrate on the safety issues if you were driving during this occurrence, or even fear of what could have happened if you were in traffic at the time.
Safety is what creates recalls, which leads to getting the transmission, radiator and anything related taken care of at no cost. And hopefully reimbursement for those of us stuck with these unsafe lemons. The more complaints they get that are safety related the better.
Also be careful in reporting it http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm to use these components as this is what NHTSA is doing the investigation on. The top two seem to have the largest number of complaints but there are some connected with the engine and cooling system so NHTSA is not getting the full picture of the number of complaints.
Component(s) :
POWER TRAIN
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM)
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:COOLING UNIT AND LINES
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:TORQUE CONVERTER
Extension and class action lawsuits but Nissan Canada is still not even acknowledging Nissan's new warranty extension. They say they don't even know it exists in the US. This is brutal. I have been told that I need to start a class action lawsuit in Canada to get them to wake up. My vehicle is made in Tennessee along with every other pathfinder in North America But when Nissan U.S. releases a new warranty, Nissan Canada doesn't follow suit? This is sickening.
I know I sound like an idiot, which is pretty much true in this situation as I don't know much at all about any of this and would really appreciate any info/help I can get on/with it.
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/06/nissan-suvs-under-nhtsa-investigation- -for-transmission-issues.html
Once it's past the 80,000 or eight years this is where the lawsuits come in. As someone else wrote she needs to get it to a dealership ASAP to get the paper trail going and hopefully get all replaced and fixed for nothing. No matter what though she should report it to NHTSA if she was driving and it failed and report this as a safety complaint. The lawsuits are fine but it is a recall that is what is really needed to pull these vehicles off the road and fix them before someone is killed or seriously injured. One lawsuit in NY was settled but all they did was extend the warranty and make the consumer still pay a huge amount of it out of pocket as a co-pay. I was not part of that one. I am looking into one from Texas and was contacted by one of those who are lead complainants if nothing else to get back part of our $6000.00 we paid. But we still filed a serious safety complaint with NHTSA and this case is being investigated for a possible safety recall. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/results.cfm?action_number=DP12- 004&SearchType=QuickSearch&summary=true
Does anyone know whay my post are not showing here.
Thanks
Where are you located Dave? And thanks for the comments
If you just replace the ECM without the proper diagnosis. You may be chasing the problem and could be costly. Take it to the nissan dealer and see what they can find.they know your car better than anyone. Every dealership has one person who handles the difficult diagnosis pronlems. Skid you cn have that person look at your car.
They extended the original warranty to 8 years/ 80,000 miles with no co pay
9 years /90,000 miles with a customer co pay of $2,500.
10 years / 100,000 miles with a customer co pay of $3,000.
They will have more info at www.nissanassist.com
If you have already paid for this repair . Call 1-877-208-9275 for reimbursement eligibility.
Thought I would pass this info along. I received the notice from Nissan North America today.
The class action is bogus by the way, why should we pay one freaking dime for their poor manufacturing.
"Just a reminder as to how important it is to report the transmission/radiator problems to NHTSA. Concentrate on the safety issues if you were driving during this occurrence, or even fear of what could have happened if you were in traffic at the time.
Safety is what creates recalls, which leads to getting the transmission, radiator and anything related taken care of at no cost. And hopefully reimbursement for those of us stuck with these unsafe lemons. The more complaints they get that are safety related the better.
Also be careful in reporting it http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm to use these components as this is what NHTSA is doing the investigation on. The top two seem to have the largest number of complaints but there are some connected with the engine and cooling system so NHTSA is not getting the full picture of the number of complaints.
Component(s) :
POWER TRAIN
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM)
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:COOLING UNIT AND LINES
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:TORQUE CONVERTER"
Other than doc # 75 I don't think there is anything worth going to Pacer to download that is not on this page. I did go to Pacer and paid to download #75 just out of curiousity as to what Nissan is admitting and not admitting to. The last one is # 77, which is already on the lawsuit page. Second link.
http://www.plainsite.org/flashlight/case.html?id=1904001
http://classaction.kccllc.net/content.aspx?c=5247&sh=1