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Yup, just went back and checked the shop manual on a 2006 Sonata with V6, and you are correct, it is a chain. With a tensioner. He probably just said the tensioner failed, and I assumed belt.
EDIT: I was close. The 2005 2.7L was a belt system, the '06 with the 3.3 is chain driven.
Either way, great warranty paid to fix the guys engine! :shades:
Gotta love the Hyundai service site!
He's not even in the right forum. GM has a five year 100K. Hyundai has 100K ten year. So how serious can he be? :sick:
I will post a similar question about warranties in a Cobalt forum. I am simply worried that these very, very long warranties are being used as a powerful sales tool now, but may not be fully honored down the road. Particularly if they appear to be absurdly long. Dealers come and go. Manufacturers come and go. Warranties are somewhat subject to the interpretation of the manufacturer. Therefore, I believe some caution is needed in evaluating the actual worth of extremely long warranties.
I think I will take my chances with Hyundai being around for awhile!
And so will I and many of my friends and relatives who are very happy owners of Hyundai Vehicles.
Do any of you encounter such a weird problem while pumping Gas!!
1. Seat had no lumbar support, making her longish drives uncomfortable. She said there's obviously no way to know if she would have this problem if not knocked up.
2. The gas pedal takes a split second to engage when accelerating. She said it's slight, but noticeable.
3. Forward cup holder is in the way of gear shift, making picking up the morning beverage harder than it should be.
4. Horn is hilariously bad.
I drove one yesterday (2011) and was shocked by the performance. That car is smooth!
It reminded me a bit of the Accord and the Camry that I tested.
They are saying that this car gives you more bang for the buck. Now that I have added another car to my research, I am confused. I liked the Camry a lot, but am scared by what I have read. I liked the Honda Accord because I already own one that is 7 years old, but don't like a few things including trunk space and the dashboard. Minor I know.
But now the Hyundai Sonata seems to have a bit of both of those cars...yikes. Confused is what I am now.
I am not doubting the quality of Hyundai vehicles or the integrity of Hyundai. But I believe this particular dealer is seeking a sales advantage by offering a warranty that he cannot reasonably guarantee. Has anyone seen such a warranty elsewhere?
My wife did this with her Santa Fe, and the seats are great.
World Car Hyundai in San Antonio extends the Hyundai powertrain warranty. For anyone, they extend the 'mileage' to 125,000. For retired military, police, fire or teachers, the powertrain warranty is extended to lifetime, unlimited miles.
It's hard to say these are a scam, because you could, in theory, utilize them, but they're largely marketing tools for the dealer. But they probably make plenty of money on service that people don't need, and as soon as you miss just one "required" service they void the remainder of the warranty. As always, buyer beware.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
If a dealer says that engine or transmission damage is caused by neglect, misuse or such based on the dealer's own inspection, who can say he is wrong?
I'm not saying this is or isn't true, but I do wonder why two individuals at a Hyundai dealership, when I'm test driving a Sonata, would actually tell me this.
The dealership also sold Mitsubishi vehicles, which I have NO INTEREST IN, and made that clear from the start, so I doubt that was a motivating factor, either.
Do any of you know by firsthand experience or credible information whether there's any truth to this?
I have only ten years of Hyundai ownership experience (3 vehicles) to the contrary, at multiple dealerships. But I don't doubt there are incompetent people working at some of the thousands of dealerships out there--Hyundai and other brands.
Thank you, Backy.
What salesman hoping to make a sale is going to trash what he has to sell?
Same car, I was trying to adjust the headlight alignment to a setting more to my liking. While doing so, I screwed up and damaged one of the adusters causing the headlamp to vibrate at idle, making the lamp look like it was fluttering. Took the car in (had about 40K miles on it at the time) and ask what a new headlamp assembly would cost. Service manager asked what the problem was and I told him what I did. Hyundai covered the cost of the assembly with the comment "it shouldn't have broken that easily".
Later when the car was a few years old, one of the hatch lifts lost its charge, and the hatch would barely stay up with one. Both were replaced with the statement that since they were both made at the same time, and installed at the same time, odds were the other one would fail and should just be taken care of premptively.
2002 Elantra GLS: At 30K I took the car in for an oil change and inspection. The dealer knew I always did my own maintenance, and bought the filters from them. He asked why they were doing this one, and I told him I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything. He asked about brakes, antifreeze, gas mileage, oil consumption, then put it up on the rack for the oil change, giving it a good look while it was up there. Charged me for the oil change and told me the car needed nothing else, that I was taking good care of it. I asked the mechanic if I would ever run into a warranty problem by doing my own maintenance. He and the service manager told me to always keep my receipts for oil, filters, and any other maintenance. The mechanic also said that in the event of an engine failure, it was very easy to tell if the engine had been maintained properly as soon as it was opened up.
As stated above, every dealer is different both within the same brand and across brands. I have seen dealers who told their salesmen to push the "in house" maintenance like there was no tomorrow. One dealer even pushed for GM automatic transmission fluid changes every 15K miles "to maintain assurance of the warranty". This was when the factory recommended service was something like 50K under severe conditions.
All of these incidents happened to me, with my cars. So, your mileage may vary, but I am VERY happy with the way Hyundai has handled my warranty claims.
I owned a car that I bought new and put 80K miles on in 4 years. Just before I sold it, I replaced a leaking valve cover gasket. That car got Castrol GTX 10W30 every 5K miles as it was driven a lot in Houston traffic. When I pulled the valve cover, the inside was clean as a whistle. No sludge, no varnish, grit nor grime.
Pulled the valve cover off another engine (not mine) with 40K miles. Had to use a putty knife to get the sludge out of the valve cover, and ended up running Rislone through the engine to get all the oil ports opened back up.
Thats one way you can tell how an engine has been maintained! :surprise:
That was very, very helpful to me.
Mike
Bobad, I have heard of incidents where people who didn't have the dealer service the vehicle, even though they had purchase receipts for oil, filters, fluids, etc., and who did their own work, were given a hard time for warranty repairs, legalities aside.
For those who doubt the technician and salesman told me that warranty complaints with Hyundai were running high, regardless as to whether that's true or not (although I don't know why they would lie), they both told me this because I could not get the bluetooth system to pair with my phone on the demo Limited model I test drove, there was a buzz in the front right speaker, and also because the airbag sensor light had come on during my test drive, and the salesman told me to pull it into the service bay. They told me this in the course of making chit chat - They basically both said that "just follow the severe service schedule and get the car serviced at the dealership," and that's what led to their further statements about potential warranty claim denials.
Like I said, I do not know if it's true or not, or any different than other companies.
I test drove the 2011 Sonata because it's on my short list of cars at this point, along with the Mazda 6 and Toyota Camry. I really liked the Toyota Avalon I test drove, but Toyota wants way too much money for that car, even though it has a very nice ride, interior and is very quiet.
Based on the JD Power 2009 CSI rankings...
The study, now in its 29th year, examines satisfaction among vehicle owners who visit a service department for maintenance or repair work. The CSI rankings are based on dealer performance during the first three years of ownership, which typically represent the majority of the vehicle warranty period. Five measures are examined to determine overall customer satisfaction with dealer service (listed in order of importance): service quality; service initiation; service advisor; service facility; and vehicle pickup.
http://businesscenter.jdpower.com/news/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009030
Hyundai ranks a little behind Mitsu, but ahead of Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru and Suzuki.
Your stories are inconsistent.
Loan amount : $ 15900
APR : 7.84 %
Term: 36 months
He is saying I should pay $ 512 per month, but what I have found using calculator at Edmund or PMT from excel is $497 per month.
$512 actually means 10% APR.
Can anyone explain to me how he is coming up with $512?
Thank you.!
snam
Could the difference be GAP and other insurance? It's not really that great of a difference.
I was wondering whether there is a different way of calculating APR.
Well, thanks for reply.
I'm on the edge of giving a few members a "time out" in this discussion, because it's ridiculous for new members coming in here to get info about the 2011 Sonata to have to read through a bunch of "I know you are, but what am I?" level comments. This serves as the final warning/notice.
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