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Thanks for the info!
Did changing the auto to a 4 speed make that much difference in the CAFE for that vehicle...."
I don't consider 1 MPG to be too much of a difference. I'd consider 5 to be a decent bit, and 10 to be a big difference. That said, I'd imagine the overdrive is the reason.
I don't really mind the color that much myself.
Happy Jeeping!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
-twylie
I try to follow it when I can, but have to let judgement take over when necessary and I can't stare at the dashboard.
I would rather check out jeeps than gamble. It's such a waste of money.. I have an idea, if you want to gamble, then give me your money you would spend on gambling and I will tell you that you lost. Think about it these hotels (1 billion $$) were not built on 'winners'.
Anyhow, I hope you have a good time in Las Vegas and check out a few of the Jeep dealers in town. Another dealer is Tobin Jeep/Hummer/Bentley/ Jaguar. They have plenty of Jeeps and a hummers..
Viva Las Vegas.....
A couple of years ago I read about a road out of Red Rock Canyon that might or might not be appropriate for a stock Wrangler. I think it goes over to Pahrump and I've always wondered about it. Do you know anything about it? It is still too hot to do much exploring at the moment, but there's always next month or the month after...
Tobin has plenty of Hummers and the rip off version H2. The regular hummers are real cool. A friend of mine who has a Land Rover Defender 90 was up at Big Bear last weeekend and saw a H2 in action. He said its a piece of Crap. It couldn't handle hills, mud or rock very well. More or less just a Chevy Suburban chassie w/ a hummer body...
Waiting for the dealer to call back today, looking at about $435 per month w/$5000 down for 60 m. They have to get the Jeep from New Mexico.
http://www.nctd.com/review-intro.cfm?ReviewID=1215
I thinked they goofed the interior picture though, unless the new Wrangler interior is identical to the Liberty's.
Thanks for any and all help.
I was reading your post...$435.00 x 60 =$26100.00
plus $5000.00 down = 31,100. Seems a little high.
What kind Jeep are you getting?
dewars
Tom
The new muffler and high flow cat converter are on. I think the muffler is 2.25 and the converter 2.5. The muffler is a Magnaflow. He left the stock tailpipe on there with stock downturn tip.
So, how is it? Well...........................
The sound is....................................
...kind of "flatulence-like" for lack of a better term. Maybe some of you would think it sounds like the Hondas and Toyotas with the big coffee can like ( o ) mufflers (maybe me included?) Mostly at lights, stop and go. It is a little loud there also. Once moving, it is not so bad at all, although louder than stock. It almost has the tone of no muffler just quieter than that. A plus is that it did not seem to reverberate or be REAL LOUD like people say that the Flowmasters are which I didn't want. I might have preferred the tone to be lower and a little more "burbley".
The power/performance is....................................
...Decent. I guess about what I might have expected, possibly better than I expected. It is not a neck snapping Mustang, but I never expected it to be. What it does seem to do though is be less "bound up" or "restricted" than it was. It seems more willing or able or what have you. It is a very difficult thing to put a finger on as far as describing it. I will really know when I get it in an uphill situation offroad, or towing. I suppose if I went with the fancy schmancy 2.5 inch everything for close to $300, it might have a little more oomph, but at a price, both monetary and in loudness, and apparently also at a cost of the loss of lower RPM torque.
Of course, this is based on a five to ten minute ride back from the shop. Not sure yet how it is on the highway. I imagine it might change slightly over time also.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I'm not much of an expert about older jeeps, either. But if you want an uneducated 2 cent opinion - my personal experience with old vehicles has been really positive. I bought a beat up '77 Chevy 3/4 ton truck in '85 (75,000 miles) and sold it still in good working condition in '91 (125,000 miles and 80 percent of those were hauling a horse trailer). The only repairs were a rebuilt carburator and a fuel pump. If the vehicle is still working well after 9 or 10 years, it will just about go forever. Those that aren't "bomb proof" have already died.
We'll be coming in Saturday and leaving Monday (shudder, shutter). I have family there, so we come up often - we should plan an outing later in the fall, perhaps.
I've got a '91 Wrangler with the 4.0. The only major problem I've had was replacing the catalytic converter (and muffler while I was at it) at about 105,000. The '92 is the same vehicle as far as I know. Everything else on mine except brakes, tires, and filters is original equipment and still going strong, not one oil leak ever. The off roading I do is logging roads to get to hiking spots.
It should have factory skid plates over the gas tank and transmission already. You would probably add to that if you're going to do rocky areas. The YJ is not as off road capable as the TJ but jeepers, people still leave the pavement anyway.
Any car is subject to something breaking, no guarantees there. And the price seems a little high from what I've seen but I'm certainly no expert in that field.
The Jeep I currently LEASE I want out of. This is going to Screw me. But I want out, so I guess I'm gonna take the loss. I'm not real sure why the payments are the way they are. The dealer and I havent sat down yet to crunch numbers to finalize them. I'll keep you posted on the events that should unfold today and thanks for your interest......
Believe me, it made me feel much more "in control" when the finance person walked in. Just make sure you get them to put in writing what all the charges will be, in advance, before you sign on the dotted line.
I got all the numbers in writing a day or two in advance, so when the finance guy told me we were only about $1000 off on our calculations, I whipped out my contract that the Sales Manager had signed! It was a done deal after that! When I left the dealership, my payments were precisely what I had calculated at www.Jeep.com.
Just my .02 worth.
Laura
Good Luck !
dewars
-twylie
An old Jeep makes ideal beach transport. Enjoy it until it rusts away!
Who else is wheelin' and where?
Bama, where is it you were planning to wheel this weekend?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Im still looking for those 2 days weekends.
Gotta get ready for a big labor day weekend at work!!
Keep Jeepin
BAMA
Hope the rest of you get a chance to put that lever all the way up today too!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
02 Sport
Auto
A/C
CD w/ 7 speakers
Cruise Control
Dana 44
Trac Lok Limited Slip diff
30" Caynon Tires
Dual Tops
Deep Tint Windows both tops
I'm pretty excited! It will be here on Thursday or Friday!! Keep ya posted!!!
Happy Labor Day Weekend!! Fly the Stars and Strips proudly!!!
Are you looking at what mods you are going to be putting on the new TJ?
What color did you go with?
And, if you don't mind, please tell us what you paid in relation to invoice. I sure ain't in the market, cause I'm happy with Thelma Jane, but others who come here could benefit from having this info.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Went to Turkey Bay and with two other Jeeps and hooked up with three more once we got down there.
The last Jeep to join us just fell in behind us on the trail, and it turned out that the four occupants were some Bosnian kids from Bowling Green, Ky. Their TJ was bone stock, and the kid driving did a great job.
Ross Allen had a great time, as usual, but the heat and the days activities took their toll on him. He is sound asleep on the bed beside me.
I got to play trail guide for a good part of the day, and I did a pretty good job, if I do say so myself. I got us on some fairly challenging trails but not in over our heads. The guy who took over for me also did real well. We had a blast!
Hope to go back tomorrow.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I paid $300 over invoice, went through a on line company to get the bid.
Did some wheeling today in my SE before I give it up. A little hot about 105 degrees, but still a blast. I need rain so I can go muddin!! Its so damn dry here. Its all dusty and brown. Well I have to go and have a Labor Day weekend Beer. I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend....
Remember Fly Your Stars and Stripes!!!
I LABORED away. Cooking for all these hungrey Alabama folks.
Glad everyone had a GREAT day, Sounds like fun..
CONGRATS Chef!! sounds like a beauty.. now dont go and get it dirty. Keep that JEEP shining.
Keep Jeepin
BAMA (ROLLL TIDE!!)
and GREAT choice of color.
Enjoy !
dewars
I'm sorry, but I don't know the answer to your question. There is a four speed auto for the 03's, but not just limited to the Saharas, but that's about all I know about the 03s.
It would sure be a super time to buy and 02, assuming that they have extended the 0% financing for 60 months. It was supposed to have ended today, but they almost always extend those incentives, and sometimes even increase them. Gee, maybe they are giving no interest/ no principle loans now? Wouldn't that be nice?
Hang in here with us. Glad you found us.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Anxiously awaiting in Placerville........ :-)