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Toyota Celica (Hatchbacks / All Years)

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    there is no difference at all between the GT and GTS suspension set-ups - the only GTS handling advantage comes from bigger rims/lower-profile tires. So, you could get the GT and put the 16" rims on, and have GTS handling! Both are superb.

    GTS SUPPOSEDLY has as base stock the 15" alloys from the GT with 205/55 tires on them - I have NEVER SEEN THIS in all my celica shopping. But it means you could go with the 15" rims and get 195/60's or 205/55's, whichever you prefer.

    BTW, as far as manuals, the GTS clutch is shorter and sharper than the GT clutch, if this is a factor for you in SF driving.

    And lots of people have posted here saying they got very few miles out of the OEM Yokohamas on their GTS's...they are summer tires, and they wear fast. Most get less than 30K on them.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sf24sf24 Posts: 18
    lots of great info, thanks again! is it possible that both 195 and 205 size tires can fit snuggly into the same rim? (i've never shopped rims/tires, so i'm new to this).

    according to you guys, the stock GTS tires aren't gonna last long. so i was wondering , how much should i expect to pay to replace a set of 16" tires (not high performance/racing tires, just normal driving under regular condition tires) ? how about for 15"?

    also nippon u said i could get GT and put 16" rims on them, but it seems 16" is not a listed option for the GT. can it be done anyway?
  • sf24sf24 Posts: 18
    i saw on some message boards people describing the celica manual transmission as 'vague' , or just bad in general, and not as good as honda/acura sticks. how do u guys find it?
  • I paid $620 out the door for 4 Kumho tires and a 4-wheel alignment. This was much pricier (unfortunately) than tirerack.com, but it is at a trustworthy place, where they are experts on suspensions/alignments. Next time, I may order from tirerack, and take the tires in to them. The Kumho tires are slightly harder, slightly less grip than the Yokohamas. I got 11,000 on the Yokohamas. They weren't bald, but in the rain they were already deadly. Hope to get 20k+ out of the new ones.

    Don't know on the rim question, but also wondering if you're saying the other tire specs are the same (205, 16" for example.)

    If you substitute sizes, be aware of the repercussions on what your speedometer reports as your speed!

    If like someone said there is no suspension difference, yes you can buy the 16" tires/rims elsewhere and put them on the GT. You can buy cooler rims (if made) this way!

    Acura does make a great transmission. But looking at the RSX-S, which I could have had instead of the GTS, the car doesn't compare in style. Although, the Honda seems to feel tighter build quality-wise to me. (I had a CL & Integra.)

    Anyone have problems synching in 2nd gear when downshifting?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    transmission is the tightest, slickest stick I have ever used. It is really excellent, but more "notchy" than the RSX stick. I like both, but I love the smooth solid feel of the celica shifter. The gear gates are very close together, not something everyone likes.

    If you go with 205/55 profile tires as opposed to 195/60 on 15" rim, you should have no problem with your speedometer. BUT if you decide to buy some 16" rims for it, prepare to have it recalibrated or it will read wrong.

    No, the 16" rim is not a stock option from Toyota for the GT, but I am sure you could get them to sell you a set, or there is a huge selection of great-looking aftermarket rims out there in 16".

    Oh, and yes, the 195's and the 205's will both fit the same 15" rim from Toyota - it is a 6.5.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Nippononly: You can put 16" wheels on a car that originally had 15" and not worry about recalibrating the speedometer if you choose the right tire size. Example: If the car came with 195/60R15 tires, you can switch to 195/55R16 or 205/50R16 with no effect to the speedometer.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    but I thought he was stuck on the idea of getting 205/55 tires, in which case the speedo would read a little wrong with the 16" rims...

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • hiya what are folks getting for milage overall, i've had toyota's in the past and have run them to 210,000+ easy, and the 90'GT i'm looking at has been babied and stored in winter. just lookin' for some feedback. Many Thanks
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    was an '83, so not exactly a direct comparison. It was at 250K when I sold it to a guy who is still using it as his daily driver - just saw it the other day.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • alex18talex18t Posts: 117
    Want to really stick to the road? I bought 225/50 15" tires for my GT. They really stick in the dry but they can be a liability if you think they're going to perform as good in the rain. Still, sticky wide rubber like that is a ton of fun when you get a curve in the road, not to mention the great "all business" look they give to the car.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    the 5S-FE motors 2 biggest concerns are:

    1. Valve stems
    2. Distributor O-ring leaking

    Other than that, if it's got the usual maintenance done it should be fine
  • celica115celica115 Posts: 169
    Dose anyone know where can find the taillight for 90 Celica? I searched the web for 3 hours and I did not find any. Please help ...

    My Celica has 170,000 miles and it runs good. No any major problem found. It is not easy to find the mod parts for it. Most of the companies make parts for 94 up. Too bad.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    try this: www.taprecycling.com.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • celica115celica115 Posts: 169
    It is useful. ^__^
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  • celica115celica115 Posts: 169
    Do you have more resource for the celica taillight? Taprecycling.com dose not have it in stock. Thank you.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    They always have what I need...I assume the price at the dealer is outrageous?

    There are several dealers on the web if you look up "toyota parts" on google, that will sell to you at wholesale for new parts.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sf24sf24 Posts: 18
    thanks to nippon and guitar for all the useful info! i'll go shop the car sometime this winter, and let u guys know how it goes.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    wait to hear!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sf24sf24 Posts: 18
    hey do you guys have any advice as to whether to get the '02 and save money or go with the '03?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    so unless you like those clear taillights and tiny strip of front grille on the '03, make them discount it for you and buy the '02.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • marylaxmarylax Posts: 12
    I am thinking of purchasing a 2000 Toyota Celica from a private seller. I have researched the car online and found that Kelleys Blue Book said it has a value of $14,645 and Edmunds said about $15,500. The seller wants $15,999 for it and won't really budge on the price because he supposedly owes $16,000 on it. I offered him $15,000 and he won't take it. Should I just forget about it and keep looking? The car is in perfect condition and only has 21,000 miles on it. I kinda have my heart set on a Celica and they are hard to find in my area without going very far away. Any ideas??
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    in the thread which is now "read only"...

    Celicas range a lot in price depending on trim and options, which end of the spectrum are you looking at? (GT-S with leather and side air bags, or GT with plastic wheel covers and no spoiler?)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • marylaxmarylax Posts: 12
    The just got the guy to go down to $15,400. It is the Celica GT, spolier, power windows/locks, power sunroof, everything but leather. Should I try to get him down more?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    you could get this car brand new for around $18K in a manual, $18,700 in an auto. This car is already three years old, albeit with low miles. Even with credit for the miles, I would not pay more than about $14,800 for the auto, $14K flat for the stick. BUT if the seller is the type to baby the car, and it is in truly perfect shape, proper maintenance with records, etc etc, then I would probably go to $15,400 for the auto, maybe $14,800 for the stick.

    Otherwise, why not put a few payments together or just save up a little, and buy the new one?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • marylaxmarylax Posts: 12
    Thanks nippononly for all your advise about the Celica. I went and test drove a new one today so I am going to weigh my options and then decide. Thanks again!
  • I am getting ready to shop for a pre-owned Celica. But, before I spend a ton of my precious time going from dealer to dealer and test driving these cars, I hoped you experienced Celica buyers could give me some advice . . .
    This is where I’m at: I like the “rounder” look of the 1999 Celica and have always wanted a convertible, but I’m concerned about potential problems with the soft top. And, although I prefer the rounder look of the 1999 . . . if mechanically, the 2000 or 2001 Celicas are better, I am willing to consider them.
    I have heard about the problem with engine noise and vibration with the Celica - - Is this a problem only with the 2000; or also with the 1999, 2001 and 2002 models?
    I am also debating between manual vs automatic transmission - - Although manual seems like the obvious (more fun) choice for a sporty car, the fact of the matter is that I commute 3 days a week in bumper-to-bumper So. Calif. traffic . . . so, I’m seriously considering choosing an automatic - - Would I loose a lot is speed/power with the automatic transmission.
    If there are any Celica-knowledgeable readers out there . . . I would appreciate your advice on what to look for when test driving the 1999 to 2002 Celicas.
  • guitarzanguitarzan Posts: 632
    My opinion on the tranny: You cannot choose any 4-cylinder nowadays and be happy with the performance of an automatic, if you want some good performance. (Porsche notwithstanding.)

    Not sure but I think the new 2000 design is louder than previously. It DOES have its share of noise.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    and owned an '02 for a while.

    The 2000 on up is a much louder thrashier engine than the 2.2L from the 1999 on back.

    There is no convertible for the 2000 up.

    There were not many 1999s sold, everyone knew the new model was coming, and the old one was kind of dated.

    On the 2000 up, the auto really sucks the juice out of the engine. If you are into fast times, go with the manual. You should know that the gears are closely spaced, and long (7800 rpm redline on this thing), so that you can stay in one gear for a long time, in traffic. For stop and go, it has a short light clutch, so it would not be too wearing...

    The '94-'99 celicas were a lot torquier, being the 2.2L. The new ones needs to be revved above 3500 rpm to make significant power. The new one LOVES to rev!

    The old had timing belts, the new ones have timing chains.

    If you decide to go with the previous generation, avoid anything labelled 'ST' - those had a low-po 1.8L and were slower than corollas.

    And by the way, I did not sell the celica because I hated it or anything, I just ended up a little claustrophobic in there - really make sure you are comfortable with the small cockpit space before you buy, if you go with the new one!! Good Luck. :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

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