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Buick LeSabre

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  • twalden1twalden1 Posts: 2
    My sister got her 1995 Olds 88 (84K miles) with the 3800 engine out of the shop yesterday with a repair for the same problem you describe. The GM repair kit was almost $300. The bigger problem was the phantom leak, and trying to find it, and the inconvenience of several trips to the local garage. I drive a Buick, and according to my Buick dealer, this coolant leak problem is seen frequently. This is the third coolant leak she has had in the intake, all in different places.
  • gtmushgtmush Posts: 4
    There are several postings on the Chevrolet Impala board regarding this problem. Also, one of my co-workers told me this happened to his mother-in-law's LeSabre. The Buick rep probably wasn't too concerned about your mentioning the Camry or Avalon since those cars have a sludge problem that Toyota was reluctant to acknowledge.
  • slimrjpslimrjp Posts: 5
    Over the weekend I went on an extended trip with my family. Mom & Dad just bought an Impala LS, which I had thought about buying when I bought my LeSabre -- Boy did I make the right choice.

    My LeSabre has been consistently averaging 33.8 mpg traveling 70-80 mph through Montana/Wyoming/Idaho with an excellent ride and handling. The Impala got 29 with the cruise at 73 and the ride left a lot to be desired. It was very firm, but felt more like my truck than a car. Don't get me wrong I really like the Impala, but when it comes down to it the LeSabre may be a "Blue Hair Car" but sure kicked the Impala's young punk butt!!!
  • macarthur2macarthur2 Posts: 135
    Your right, the Buick has a better damped ride and it is quieter to boot thanks to more sound deadening insulation. Lots of people think the LeSabre and Impala are on the same chassis but they are not. The Impala is on the same chassis as the Pontiac Gran Prix and the LeSabre is on the same chassis as the Pontiac Bonneville. I'm always impressed with the gas mileage of my LeSabre which is always above 31 mpg in straight highway driving. I'm very disappointed in Consumer Guide Car Issue that they rate the LeSabre so low (17 mpg). My LeSabre gets 21 mpg in city/rural driving and has never gotten below 20 mpg. This is no gas guzzler, in fact it does better than the Toyota Camry/Avalon. Come on Consumers Guide lets tell it honestly.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Very interesting report there Slimrjp. I had been set on finding an Impala LS before purchasing my 2000 Bonneville SE. The experience with the Bonnie has been very good but I find that my gas mileage has fallen off about 10% after replacing the std Firestone Affinities (POS) with Goodyear Aquatread IIIs. Still, the car is very quiet and controlled - especially after I had an antisway bar installed in back. With an interior similar to the Impala LS (buckets with center console and shift) and a ride akin to a LeSabre with some suspension upgrade - it is a pure joy to drive.

    That said, I'd drive any of the 3 of these cars with pleasure. Mine happens to be a bit more unique in that you don't see quite so many Bonnies.

    Luv'n every mile!
  • slimrjpslimrjp Posts: 5
    Since you mention tires I am curious what tires everyone is purchasing for their LeSabres. Mine has the standard set of 15" Generals it came from the factory with and as I am quickly approaching the 30K mile mark they need to go. To be honest I am very disappointed in them. GM should be note that these tires do not cut it on a car of this size and ability! I looked at some Douglas touring radials ($60 each with an 80k warranty) and have noticed a lot of Goodyears on other LeSabres. Any recommendations?

    Thanks
  • macarthur2macarthur2 Posts: 135
    Amazing SLIMRJP I was thinking the exact same thing as I was bringing up this site just now. My LeSabre has the General tires only they are 16". At 26k they look to have maybe 10k more left on them. So if any of you have changed out the original 16" tires what have you replaced them with? Wal Mart has Michlins Semetry and Good Year Viva2 touring tires, has anyone tried them? The Generals have gotten noticeably noisier as they have worn.
    Appreciate any advice any of you have.
    Might go look at Tirerack.com
  • I am not crazy about the 16" generals, either. They pick up a tremendous amount of gravel and every few months, if I am bored, I pick them out with a screwdriver. I have Michelin X-ones on the Monte, they wear like iron, have good grip in all weather and are still just slightly noisy. I was thinking about the symmetry Michelin also as the replacement. I have broused in Edmunds Tire forum, which helps, and at tire rack too, but most of these Buicks 2000 and up have not logged enough miles to be concerned with replacement.
  • stan13stan13 Posts: 14
    Macarthur2...Take a close look at the reviews of the Yokahama Avid Touring tire on Tirerack's website. It appears the people who have them love them and give them high marks. Good prices too. I'll be looking at them as replacements for my Firestone Affinity tires when they wear out.
  • Have had our 2000 LeSabre Limited for the past 27K miles and 29 months. Not one iota of a problem. Did replace the 16" factory tires with Firestone whitewall Affinity's. Looks a lot better to me! Of course, I came into the car loving world when whitewalls were the "in" thing. I drive cars for Avis and that's what sold me on the Buick......any of the models are super drivers. However, I will say this, I'm going to seriously consider the Avalon when the next car buying time comes. Don't want to look like the grandfather I am!!
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,682
    I love Michelin quality. I put X-Ones on my 98
    LeSabre. They grip great in snow and cold icy
    roads because of the treat rubber compound.
    I put XH4s on my last LeSabre and one failed at
    110 K. I never thought I;'d keep the car this long.
    they still have 3 to 4 32nds of tread depth.
    The X-Ones are soft and quiet but grip great.

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  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    Hey, Avalons are "granddaddy" cars too, so you really won't be making youself look any younger. Just get a Civic with wacky spoilers and look stupid trying to look young, instead.
  • Hi everyone, I thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth about replacement tires and gas mileage. I replaced my original Firestone Affinity tires on my 2000 Buick LeSabre Limited at 30,000 miles with Michelin Symmetry tires. So far, (2000 + miles) they seem to be wearing very well. I have the 16 inch tires and the Touring Suspension.

    Concerning gas mileage, I think that the brand of gasoline you use has alot to do with your mileage. I had been using Shell regular gasoline and had been getting 31 mpg on the highway. I then joined the Upromise program and switched to Exxon regular for the college savings. After I switched, my highway mpg went down to 26. I then switched back to Shell and my mpg went back up to 31. So, maybe if you try a different gasoline, your mileage might improve.

    Just came back from a 700 mile trip to Maine and back and averaged 31.2 mpg on the highways.

    Neil
  • jmille9jmille9 Posts: 2
    For a better ride and stability I would consider Bridgestone Turanzas...They improved the ride on my old 1993 LeSabre...the downside is that you will have to replace them @ 35k miles...for endurance go with Michelon. The tradeoff in tire buying is always ride vs wear. Actually the original equipment Generals are probably going to be hard to beat for soft ride on the LeSabre since Buick wants to suck-in older buyers who like that feature. I would keep the Generals until the tread gets thinner and your ride rougher before going to Turanzas or Michelons.
  • My 1991 LeSabre has slow power windows (all 4). I find it hard to believe that all 4 motors are bad, but I guess it's possible. I was thinking it was more of a low voltage issue. I haven't measured the voltage at the motors though.

    Any suggesions?

    Thanks..
  • Hello, I am new to this site and am hopeful I can get the answers to my situation.
    I have a 93 buick lesabre LTD with 167,000 kms.
    My situation is when I am at a full stop,and when I step on the acceleration, there is a pronounced hesitation. It seems no fuel is getting to the required destination.
    I have had the fuel injectors cleaned, a new gas filter and new spark plugs.
    I am trying to avoid paying the money for a scope,can anyone give me any suggestions as to what this recurring problem be? Thank you.
  • "My 1991 LeSabre has slow power windows (all 4)."

    Car is almost 12 years old, isn't it?
  • My 2000 LeSabre Custom seems to burn out taillight and turn signal bulbs with some frequency. I was trying to change the bulbs in the light assembly which is attached to the trunk lid. You have to remove the whole assembly to change a bulb and the nuts on the fasteners for the assembly are set so deep into the trunk lid I can't reach them with pliers or an open end wrench and the stems are so long that deep sockets won't fit either. I can't believe I may have to take the car to the dealer to change taillight bulbs. In my book, that's a really stupid design.
  • jimsxnjimsxn Posts: 108
    I bought this Le Sabre when it was 135K Km and now it is almost 165K and I don't know when it was last done. I received a notification from the dealer the other day for a steering system flush. How crucial is it and do I need a dealer to do it?
  • Yes, it's 12 yrs old. Big deal. Are you saying I should heap it because it's 12 yrs old and the power windows are slow? I'll put in the replacement motors and keep it going if it's OK by you.

    It runs like new with the new suspension and tires I had put on. Engine oil change every 3K and very well maintained through it's 90K of service. Body shows minor surface rust, but otherwise, it's going to keep running for another 50-70K.

    Please do not comment if you don't have anything constructive to say.
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