Toyota Tacoma: Problems & Solutions

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  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    Well, I already blew out the switch console on the door with some compressed air in an effort do clear any debris that might be blocking the connection, but to no avail. The problem persists. I suppose I shouldn't be too upset - 4 years and 54K miles and this is the biggest problem I've had! I'll admit, I like to drive with the windows down even when it's sprinkling a little and I know that switch has been exposed to a lot of moisture. I guess I had it coming.

    So now the question becomes do I just live with the problem or bother and get it fixed?
  • mattginnettymattginnetty Member Posts: 4
    I would like to know if anyone has seen a 4x4 doublecab with a sunroof? I called toyota and they said that it is an option but I have yet to find one at any of the dealerships in massachuetts. One dealer said they could install a sunroof at the dealership but I don't think it would be the same as a factory sunroof. Any info on this would be great.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Member Posts: 897
    You'll have a LOT more luck getting an aftermarket sunroof. You can get a flip-top, or a power roof, for the truck, and it'll more than likely cost you a lot less than at a dealer.
  • artwisartwis Member Posts: 66
    I looking at a new 2002 Tacoma to replace my gas hog 97 Silverado 5.7 that I bought new. Can someone tell me if the 2.4 has a timing chain or is it a belt? If it's the belt what's the replacement schedule. Does the warranty provide roadside assistance, I'm 50 miles from the closest dealer? The 2.4 with manual will easily do all the light duty stuff that I do. I'm thinking a 4x2 regular cab or ext. cab. Any comments welcomed.
    Artwis
  • rodnhrodnh Member Posts: 10
    artwis Apr 24, 2002 8:11am

    The 02 Tacoma 2.4L has a timing chain...not a belt. I don't know about the roadside assistance.

    Rod
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    I don't know. When I bought my 2000 4x2 ext. cab, 4 banger, manual, no one mentioned roadside assistance, and I did purchase an extended warranty. That didn't bother me much, since I have AAA.

    My biggest complaint with it is the VERY uncomfortable seats, especially if you have to be in them for more than an hour. I understand they improved them for 2002, but I don't think they are all that much better. Make sure that you sit in them for a long enough time to judge before you buy. They only really started to bother me (and my husband) after about a month or so. It is so bad that we happily paid the extra in gas and drove a Wrangler on a 3,000 mile trip last year, rather than put up with those seats for several days of straight driving.

    The only maintenance problem I've had either disappeared (a wierd tranny problem which only lasted a few days) or got fixed (the radiator problem I'm having now). Otherwise it goes up and down the road very well.
  • eagle63eagle63 Member Posts: 599
    so you're saying that there really isn't a true "towing package" available on the Tacoma? -it's just a beefier hitch? do they advertise it as such?
  • rodnhrodnh Member Posts: 10
    There is no option called a "towing package" listed in the options section on Toyota's 2002 Tacoma literature. There is a "towing receiver hitch" listed under the category called "accessories" along with something referred to as "towing accessories". Neither is further defined.

    When I bought my Tacoma last October I initially wanted to make a special order with only the options that I particularly wanted. I found out right away that such an approach was not going anywhere. The dealer told me that I couldn't "special order" anything. I would have to purchase from among several available packages of options that Toyota had decided was most "popular" for various regions of the country.

    I had originally decided that I would install an aftermarket tow hitch myself since, at $359, I felt the Toyota towing receiver hitch "accessory" was significantly overpriced. Anyway, after three weeks of searching, the dealer found the closest match to what I really wanted. It had a lot more options that I didn't particularly want but to get the core things that were important to me, I had to take the "package"...or wait an unknown period of time, possibly months. That package included a FACTORY INSTALLED class III, 5000# towing receiver hitch. It is a genuine Toyota hitch, was not installed at any dealer's facility and is listed under "optional equipment" on the factory sticker. The hitch itself has an out-of-the-way sticker on it that indicates a tow hitch capacity of 5000#. Also on that same hitch sticker it says to check the owners manual for the towing capacity of the VEHICLE. Only after doing that and then having to check the color of the paint on my fan drive did I find out that the vehicle towing capacity (at 3500#) was LESS THAN the hitch capacity. Sneaky, eh?

    I guess my particular peeve with Toyota here is that I don't think any owner should have to follow the trail I did in order to find out that he really shouldn't use a factory tow hitch to it's full capacity with out spending still more money on more "accessories", especially engine accessories that Toyota has full responsibility for and control over. If Toyota puts on a 5000# hitch at the factory (on their own mind you - presumably as a popular option), I think they ought to put on the required engine accessory to go with it. Lacking that, they should have installed a 3500# class II hitch only. But what do I know?

    In any event, I am very pleased with my truck. It is a relatively minor matter but one I thought I would post about to let others know of my experience.

    Rod
  • chiweihochiweiho Member Posts: 51
    the Sunroof option is hard to find, California dealers charge 1k for the option from ASC.


    the towing hitch was easy to install from ORW, it is a draw-tite, http://www.draw-tite.com/, takes 2 guys to bolt on the existing patterns, no cutting at all. and it's 5k load. i had my buddy do the electrical, just piggy back to the brake lights. draw-tite also has charts.


    when i spec the frontier and the taco, they said stick transmission towing was at 3500lbs and auto was 5000lbs, have no idea why, but this was the specs.


    "required engine accessory " what is this, salesman talk, for a hitch? tranmission cooler?

    i would not buy the factory hitch, just mark up for them.


    happy hunting.

  • dwickydwicky Member Posts: 3
    Just posted this on the "Owners Experiences" board, Guess I should have come here first. Can the warning stickers on the visors be removed and if so how??? Thanks
  • racer_rickracer_rick Member Posts: 1
    Well it may not show on the brochure but I did see it on the web site when you do the "Build Your Own" option or whatever they call it.
  • wazappawazappa Member Posts: 32
    Anyone have trouble with switching from vent to heater? On my new, 2000 miles, TRD V6 it is now impossible to stop the airflow from the upper vents. When the dial is set to the heater only position I get considerable hot air still coming from the top vents. When I switch to mixed or upper vent only the airflow does stop at the floor and increases at the vent. However the opposite does not work. It is annoying to have hot air hitting you in the face all the time...even more annoying that things do not work as they are suppose to on a $24,000. truck!
  • saupe130saupe130 Member Posts: 36
    Hi Ya'll. Got a 98 Tacoma 4X4, SR-5, 3.4L V-6, TRD, 5 speed in Black and I love everything about it but one. When I change the oil, the filter sits on the driver's side with a VERY slight downward pitch to it. When you unscrew it, of course oil goes all down the side of the engine and then drips out for about 2 days from various parts of the skid plates. I heard that emptying the oil then shaking the truck on it's suspension would drain the filter and tried that last time to no avail. I want to know this: has anybody out there tried the remote filter package sold by Toyota Performance Accessories or a similar vendor, and if so, how's it working? If it's the heat, I want one. Then changes will be a snap. Thanks in advance.
  • saupe130saupe130 Member Posts: 36
    Wazappa,
    Mine does the same thing although it is a 1998. If it's like mine, then center vents don't blow when you select "feet" or "defrost", but the two near the doors do. The outer vents have an "X" marked on the plastic at the bottom of the vent next to a slider. If you slide the slider to the "X", the vents will cease to blow. Hope this helps.
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    While I have no personal experiences with remote filter packages, all of our vehicles at work (Ford and Chevy) are equipped with them and we haven't had any problems. An easier solution is to just use a cordless hand-drill and drill a small hole in the filter so you can drain it before unscrewing it.
  • allknowingallknowing Member Posts: 866
    Try getting a small bowl or single TV dinner tray. You'll find that it will fit through the hole in the lower engine cover to sit easily below the filter. You can loosen the filter and let it drain into the bowl instead of all over the engine cover. Once you're used to it, it works great with no mess.
  • saupe130saupe130 Member Posts: 36
    Thanks for the inputs guys. I'll try the bowl/cup thing before I lay out money for the remote package. Don't know whether my cordless drill will fit up in there, but I might try that too. My Landcruiser has the same problem, but the ad for the filter package for it says it'll increase the oil capacity by 1 quart, and the dang thing already takes almost 7!
  • beachbratbeachbrat Member Posts: 23
    Rodnh, I heard about the tow package issue,did you mention that Toyota has a list that explains this problem and that they(dealer) was saying it was not intended for public viewing. What is the name of this? TMS???
  • rodnhrodnh Member Posts: 10
    beachbrat,

    Toyota has a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) that addresses the problem with tow rating. See my first post on this matter for the number and details:

    rodnh Apr 23, 2002 8:44am

    The dealer simply did not want to let me see it or bother to assist me in the matter, at first. The service manager...I think that was who it was I first talked with...did not specifically state that it was not intended for public viewing but he might as well have. I was told that the TSB was something between Toyota and the dealership, period.

    I learned about the TSB from the ALL DATA site on-line. They have a listing of such things with the tiltles, but not the actual bulletins themselves.

    I have ordered the special "high speed" engine cooling fan drive coupling that is required to increase my vehicle towing capacity from 3.5K to 5K lbs. from Toyota. The part number is listed on the TSB and in my first post on it above. Toyota seems to be having a problem filling my order though, since it is now in a "back order" status.

    The TSB itself consists of 5 pages, with the first half page describing the problem and the required "fix". The other four and one half pages consist of detailed instructions to the Toyota mechanic on how to physically replace the existing coupling with the new "high speed" one. Replacing such a coupling is a very simple matter for anyone reasonably mechanically inclined and certainly is a snap for anyone used to working on automobiles. I had quite a laugh over it. IMO, If the typical Toyota mechanic needs such detailed instructions for such a simple task, he is in over his head and should find a job more suited to his qualifications :o).
  • 2k1trd2k1trd Member Posts: 301
    Remove the front skid plates (can be removed as one piece)before removing oil filter and spray with brake cleaner after installing new filter is a much cheaper solution to buying a remote locator.
  • beachbratbeachbrat Member Posts: 23
    Rodnh, thanks for that info. I was wondering, is it posted on a quartly system or just printed every month?
  • mstein66mstein66 Member Posts: 2
    Hello all,
    I'm new & this is my question:
    I’m leasing a 1999 Tacoma Prerunner with 36815 miles on it. I having problems with trying to accelerate, I have no power. I have taken it to the dealership 3 times & they can’t find anything wrong (go figure). When I 1st start my truck & I start to drive, I’ll come to a stoplight or traffic light & stop. When I give it gas to accelerate it bogs down like it’s going to die on me, which has almost cause me to get hit by another vehicle. On occasion I smell exhaust too. Now, my truck is really running like [non-permissible content removed] & I was wondering if it could be cat converter?
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Member Posts: 897
    Hmm...check the air intake...maybe you got dirt in it.
    Also, try www.tacomaterritory.com forums. Lots of experts there.
  • rodnhrodnh Member Posts: 10
    I don't know how often ALLDATA posts the lists of TSBs. I don't think it is very often. The ones I found there for my truck were dated last Sept. I only noticed them posted recently...they were not posted on the same site earlier this year. I am sure the dealers get them from Toyota right away though...but the owner will have no way of knowing about them (other than sites like ALLDATA) unless he experiences a particular problem and brings the vehicle to the dealer for resolution. Even then, the dealer would have to be right up-to-date in knowledge about all the TSBs applicable to the vehicle in question. I guess I don't have a particularly comfortable feeling that that is always the case. Just because a bunch of TSBs are "in the computer" doesn't necessarily mean the service guys (gals) have intimate knowledge about them.


    This is the URL of the ALLDATA site where I got my reference to the TSB that covered the tow rating matter. Just close the advertising popup that appears and you will see the several TSBs for this vehicle posted so far. ALLDATA has a for-pay service where you can get copies of the actual TSBs (except for Honda & a couple of others) but I don't know how much of a time lag is involved between issuance and availability.


    http://www.alldata.com/TSB/60/026049AC.html


    Rod

  • koko164koko164 Member Posts: 29
    I have a 2002, almost a week. Your right, the seats and seat height are awful. A short 10-15min test drive isn't enough to get a real seat of the pants feel for the Tacoma.
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Let us know what you end up deciding to do about them. I'm still debating putting the money into changing/redoing the seats or just trading it in as soon as I can afford to.

    By the way, the new radiator fixed my overheating problem. So I'm back to having a functional vehicle that is very uncomfortable. Since the truck is mechanically sound, I'm still torn between dumping it and just doing something about the seats.
  • eagle63eagle63 Member Posts: 599
    is it a problem of seeing over the dash? how tall are you? I took a test drive of a 2002 recently and didn't really notice anything unusual about the seat height. maybe it's just because I'm tall enough to not have it be an issue. how do you like the vehicle otherwise?
  • koko164koko164 Member Posts: 29
    I can see fine over the dash. The seats are lower to the floor than others vehicles. I do have a bad back that acts up once in a while (like now). I'm trying seat cushions to soften and raise the seat height. I suppose if my back were perfect I wouldn't be complaining about it but, this Tacoma delaying my road to recovery. Of course maybe the suspension is adding the the problem for me too.

    I have read last year of someone replacing the seat in their new Tacoma with an after market one.

    Is there an after market catalog for Tacomas out there somewhere?

    Other from the seat issue I love the truck "eagle63"
  • beachbratbeachbrat Member Posts: 23
    Rod, Thanks again. I will look into that site(ALLDATA). I suppose you did a lot of research in that tow bumper matter. It's great to have knowledgable people with a good attitude as yourself.
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Someone who knows things about safety and cars and such suggested that I take mine to a place that does handicap conversions so that the seatbelt and air bags operate properly. Don't think there is much they can do about how high the seats are off the floor because there isn't a great deal of extra headroom, however, they can do things with the lack of lumbar support and cushioned support for your tailbone.
  • jgolezjgolez Member Posts: 1
    Does anyone know if the front bench seat of a regular 2001 Tacoma fits the front bolt seatings of the double cab. Aware the plastic center console on the floor would have to be removed. Thanks.

    ...Eli
  • glenn43glenn43 Member Posts: 15
    My 2001 Tacoma 4x4 will be reaching 15k miles shortly. Thus far I've kept up the oil changes (every 5k) and tire rotation (at 7.5K). Dealer 15k service is $259.95 includes oil change,tire rotation and balance, tune up, belt adjustments, rear brake svc and complete inspection of truck. Is this a little much for a truck that only has 15K. I don't see anything other than tire rotation and oil change that really needs to be done. Any reason for the rest?
  • smgillessmgilles Member Posts: 252
    Save your money. Visually check the belts for cracks yourself and look at your rotors and pads when you rotate the tires. Change the oil and save yourself the $260.00. Dealers are thieves and so are the people that work for them.

    What kind of tune-up are the possible going to do on a truck w/15,000 miles??? I doubt much of anything.
  • losangelesemtlosangelesemt Member Posts: 279
    What kind of tune ups can be done at ALL on these newer vehicles. Computers run everythng anymore ... theyve got computers running computers in automobiles !!!

    Glenn if you have any mechanical ability, then I'd say rotate the tires if you wish, and as Sm said above, you can check the brakes then. Any owner who's serious about getting to know their truck, would benefit from doing a full vehicle inspection themselves. I personally don't like to take the word of others when I don't have to. Sounds like the dealer is being quite proactive in this 15K service, but I'm sure you could save the money and do it yourself.
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    I took mine into the dealer for the 60,000 mile service mainly because I wanted them to check out the radiator problem I was having (replaced on the extended warranty). It cost me $290.00 and included far more than the 15K servicing (all fluids, for one thing). They were supposed to do a brake inspection, but never wrote on the paperwork what kind of condition the pads and rotors are in. Did they even bother doing it? I don't know.

    While my other half was picking up the Taco, I was getting the oil changed and tires rotated on the Wrangler, with a brake inspection at someplace other than a dealership. They put down how much wear was left on the pads (not much) and what kind of condition the rotors were in (one slightly warped, one just at tolerance), so at least now I can plan for a brake job at the end of this month (at 101,000 miles without a brake job, not a surprise).

    So if you do get the servicing done by a dealer, make sure they put down what kind of condition your brakes are in!
  • glenn43glenn43 Member Posts: 15
    I'm doing the tire rotations myself. I clean the inside of my rims and apply Armoral to the inside of the tires before remounting them. Something the dealer difinately wouldn't take the time to do. The dealer did my first two oil changes, but I'll be changing over to Amsoil at 15k and doing that myself as well. I'm hoping Chilton will have a Manual out soon so that I can read up on emission part locations, filters, distrib., etc. Anyway, thanks for advise everyone :)
  • ringneckpheasringneckpheas Member Posts: 5
    I am considering purchasing a Tacoma DC. I have a small child and need to know if the back seats are big enough to hold a child seat? I need to be able to put the seat in both rear and forward facing positions. If anyone has any experience with this, any comments would be much appreciated. My dealer says no problem, but they really are only interested in making a sale and my money and not solving my problem.

    Thanks.
  • olddawgolddawg Member Posts: 3
    I have a 2002 Tacoma Prerunner that I purchased in January. Personally, I would like the seats a bit lower. However, not enough to spend money on it.
  • dakar232dakar232 Member Posts: 12
    Ring,

    I have a 2002 DC 4x4 and the rear seat room is more than adequate for fitting adults back there. My kids are past the car seat stage so I can't comment on that.

    I would suggest that you go to the local dealer, pull the car seat out of your current vehicle and strap it in the DC. You're the consumer and have the right to do this to make sure it will fit. If the dealer gives you crap over it then they don't deserve your business.

    I've had my DC for 5 months and just love the vehicle. I use it mostly for commuting with a little bit of offroading when I'm cutting firewood. I only have two small annoying problems (dash rattle on occasion - a known problem on tacomas) and my driver seat belt connector clicks when the belt is engaged. I am taking it in to get the connector fixed. As far as the rattle, I will take care of it myself with a little bit of well placed foam.

    To get the best deal when you buy, make sure you have gotten pricing figures off of the Internet. The local dealer tried to play games with me until they realized that I knew what I was talking about and then we got down to business. Ended up getting my vehicle for $48.00 over invoice.

    best of luck with your purchase.

    Dan
  • ringneckpheasringneckpheas Member Posts: 5
    Dakar - thanks for your comments. I will do what you suggest regarding the seats.
    Your story about the dealer playing games with you doesn't surprise me at all. My big problem with Toyota in general, is the cockiness of all the dealers. They love to tout the fact that these trucks have great ratings and expect you to pay through the nose for it, when in reality their arrogance just costs them my business. Although, it sounds like you got an excellent deal, which gives me hope. Thanks again.
  • koko164koko164 Member Posts: 29
    Well I've done a lot of experimenting with my seats that include, kitchen chair cushions, bought car seat pads, cut them up-doubled them-tried sitting on the backs and leaning on the bottoms, raised the frt of the seat, raised the rear of the seat, lowered the frt(left the back raised).... you get the picture.

    These bucket seats have a built in very stiff lumbar support and my best result from all my messing around was to unhook the seatback (no tools required) and roll it up halfway. Inside from the back side of the seat you will see two support springs running across the seatback. I stretched them out a bit, especially the lower one. After putting the seat back together(takes two minutes or less) its appearance looks as it did before but, when you push against it, it's noticeable softer, and much more comfortable to ride in.

    I'm not 100% satisfied yet but, this seat mod brought me from 25% to 75%.
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Thanks for the idea - that would help my husband who complains how hard the seat backs are. My complaint is that there isn't any lumbar support at all - my 2000 has a flat seatback, and the head restraint forces me into a slumped position. I think if I were to find the right back support (one that isn't too big) it would help. On the other hand, I don't think that anything will help the comfort level on long trips. A certain part of my anatomy gets very numb after a couple of hours...
  • koko164koko164 Member Posts: 29
    ... that's the other 25% that I have to work on.
    I'm thinking something along the line of a gel pad or something similar about an inch thick inserted under the fabric of the seat might do it.
  • kg11kg11 Member Posts: 530
    is why I replaced them with Astro van seats.My wife couldn't ride in it for 5 min without being uncomfortable.It took me an hour before it bothered me but then all day to recover.

    kip
  • chiweihochiweiho Member Posts: 51
    The DC will fit a chile seat in the back facing foward, the questions is, do you want to fit two other people back there with the child seat? because there is no more room. it looks good on paper that it can fit 5, but 4 comportably, and for about 2 hours max with TRD suspension. no complaints with stiffer springs.
  • koko164koko164 Member Posts: 29
    Were the Astro seats a simple swap?
  • kg11kg11 Member Posts: 530
    and swap the plug on the seatbelt sensor.

    kip
  • jv312jv312 Member Posts: 32
    Dealer accessories are a rip off. I am sorry to hear another sad story about it.

    As far as a Toy pulling 5000#, well, please consider more than the rating of the hitch or maximum towing capability of your tow vehicle as indicated in the "tow rating guide".

    Factors such Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW),Gross Vehicle Combined Weight (GVCW), and Gross Vehicle Combined Rating (GVCR) all play into the picture as well as wheelbase length, manual vs. standard transmission, axle ratio, and aux. cooling systems. Sounds like alot to consider? Yeah, but it will pay big dividends in avoiding costly repairs, premature wear, and/or unsafe towing practices.

    Not many dealers are going to tell you this stuff, geeze, one of my friends who had a 4 cyl. 4Runner was told by a RV dealer his rig could pull 21 ft camper. well, yeah it can, but not very well and not for very long.

    I'll get off my soapbox now, enjoy the summer, & happy towing....jay
  • eomckameyeomckamey Member Posts: 26
    Have ordered 2002 Tacoma, 4x2 Reg Cab, 2.4 L, 4 cyl, 142 hp, engine 2RZFE.

    Would like to install a Toyota #00213-00141 (believe that is correct #) in new vehicle. Am told elec. unit fits into Front, LHS freeze plug hole, with heating element at 2 o'clock position etc.

    Some time ago, we spend over $200 (Toyota Dealer) for labor and exhaust manifold gasket etc. to install a Toyota block heater #00213-00644. in our 2002 Sienna, V-6 cyl. engine.

    Am hopeful that installing a block heater in our 2002 Tacoma, described above....will not involve such extensive disassembly/reassembly of units just to gain access to freeze plug hole on the Tacoma. Can anyone advise me rel. this subject. Thank You!
  • ochizonochizon Member Posts: 25
    I have a 96 reg cab 2wd 4cyl 2.4 liter manual tranny Tacoma (what a mouthful!). I will be moving soon, about 330 flat miles. I am going to rent a trailer from U haul for the job. I know that it can easily tow the 5x8' trailer that they offer, but I need more space. The guy a the u haul told me about their new 6x12' trailer and said that my Tacoma could tow it as long as I get a Class III hitch. Here are the questions:
    Is it safe to tow a trailer of this size with my truck? And if so,
    Being that my truck has a tow rating of 3500 lbs., and that the tow rating of a Class II hitch is also 3500 lbs., what need is there for a Class III hitch on my truck?

    Thank you
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