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  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    That Escort review was probably one I remember too - from the Spring of 1980!!! Compared to what was out there at the time, it was pretty good. Especially as most of the mags reviewed the units coming out of the European factories with their taughter suspension settings. I had recently bought a Ford Fiesta, and was first at the dealership to try out a US built Escort. Trust me - the Fiesta was the better choice....

    Steve
  • hammerheadhammerhead Member Posts: 907
    I think I'd rather have a car that tended to oversteer & be able to correct it, rather than suffer through understeer. Trucks at work understeer horrendously in the winter (OK, they downright PLOW)... uncomfortable feeling turning the wheel & nothing happens :)

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/firstdrive/102904/articl- - e.html?tid=edmunds.h..wkedmunds.firstdrive.1.*

    Interesting in that navigation is standard, What's really neat about their NAV is the real-time traffic report capability. It will indicate, via icons, where construction, accidents, and heavy traffic is occurring.

    The standard navigation system features an eight-inch screen that's very easy to read. Incorporated into that navigation system are real-time traffic updates powered by XM radio. The feature is called XM Nav Traffic and it "talks" to the navigation system and warns the driver of such conditions as slow traffic flow, road construction and accidents. While this feature is not available in all cities, it is offered in major metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco and Washington D.C. The information is communicated to the driver via icons that appear on the nav screen. The marked highways are bordered by certain colors which indicate how fast or slow traffic is moving in that area. For example, a red line next to a highway indicates that traffic is moving slowly in that area — now the driver can use the navigation system to reroute himself around the congestion. The same is true for road construction, weather conditions or reported car accidents. The completeness and the availability varies by city, so the system is only as good as the local reporting infrastructure — as you might expect, Los Angeles has the most comprehensive information on both traffic flow and incidents.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I wonder how accurate those traffic things are though? 9 out of 10 times when I listen to traffic reports they are very different than the actual conditions. Neat feature though.

    -mike
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I wonder how accurate those traffic things are though? 9 out of 10 times when I listen to traffic reports they are very different than the actual conditions. Neat feature though.

    As noted in the Acura release: "The completeness and the availability varies by city, so the system is only as good as the local reporting infrastructure..."

    I agree, today's traffic reports on the radio, cell phone, and TV are typically old news by the time you hear them. That's a limitation of the medium - it takes time for the information to reach reporters and for it to be transmitted.

    The XM system looks interesting because they are partnering with TrafficPulse - http://www.xmradio.com/programming/neighborhood.jsp?hood=traffic

    TrafficPulse has installed a system along the highways in greater Boston that measures traffic flow via sensors mounted on poles along the highway. It can sense volume and speed and instantly measures changes. This information is transmitted real time to one TV station using/paying for it in Boston - http://www1.whdh.com/video/trafficcams.html

    Imagine getting that real time traffic information on your NAV system which knows where you have to go and routes you around it? True, the info is only on main highways but it could be helpful.

    My boss recently returned from Germany and Austria and was blown away by his associate's new Audi A8 with NAV and real time traffic information.
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    I just heard the news over BBC World Service that your embassy in Djkarta was bombed earlier today. Sad news. My sympathies to you and your countrymen.

    Ed
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Yeah, found this on MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5947558/

    7 dead at this point...

    -Brian
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bah, no info at all about the Acura RDX in that article, what a tease.

    system is only as good as the local reporting infrastructure

    Ain't that the truth. Garbage in, garbage out. Traffic reports in DC and worse than useless. I often drive by completely clear roads when the reports tell me to avoid them.

    It can't be real-time, by the nature of the reporting, it happens after the fact. Basically you will know what traffic was like 15-20 minutes ago!

    TrafficPulse sounds good, but who pays for it?

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    </>TrafficPulse sounds good, but who pays for it?

    TrafficPulse is one product offered by Mobility Technologies. Since only 1 TV station is offering it in Boston at the moment, I presume that station pays Mobility for the information. Mobility is also doing public/private partnerships for traffic management (you just can't go out and install these sensors on any highway) as well as telematics systems for auto manufacturers. Overall it looks like Mobility is working in all sectors of traffic and logistics data.

    One of the products they offer is on air talent so perhaps XM is paying them to do traffic reports. Just in case you didn't know, most of the traffic reporters you hear out there don't work for the media outlet. They work for private traffic reporting companies.
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Those with firewall, anyone noticed that the ISP that Edmunds might or might not be residing on has been conducting probes into our PCs? I have my firewall up awhile and all has been fine until lately. Today = 234 attempts unto various TCP ports. I've traced it to a company Omniture, Inc.

    What gives?

    -Dave
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    This is all new technology, and can only get better with time. I do see this a real benefit; maybe not quite yet, but certainly in the not too distant future.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    IMO that is required before that type of NAV system has any value at all. Current traffic reports are basically useless.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Time will tell. Some cities are better able to do it than others. Road construction is not as timely as is traffic congestion, so it's useful there too.

    I don't think it will be too long before the traffic reporting gets better.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Seems like it's been pretty bad for decades! :o)

    Here is a pretty good summary of DC traffic, especially the last couple of days, since school is back in session:

    "Traffic is bad everywhere, bumper to bumper on all roads you'd even THINK of taking. You didn't actually think that your RL/NAV would help you get to work quicker, did you? HA HA HA HA!"

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    It might, by showing you side streets that you not normally think to take. It could be very helpful on trips to unfamiliar locations.

    I guess we'll know shortly as new RLs start hitting the road. I'm sure owners will be reporting here on Edmunds as to whether it's useful or not.

    Bob
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Here in Seattle the Dept. of Transportation has live traffic reports with cameras so you can see the traffic online. It's very useful when trying to decide how to get somewhere during rush hour.

    Some company here has this little handheld unit that shows the traffic live, it's called 'traffic gauge' which is kinda neat.

    Japan has had live traffic reports with their nav systems for some time now. It's about time we get it here.

    tom
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Haven't seen anything suspicious on this end. You sure you're 'clean'? Run Ad-aware perhaps?

    -Brian
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Brian-
    PC is on AntiSpyware and is pretty clean.

    BTW , what happen to the

    <-- eBay column?

    -Dave
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    *shrug* as long as you're up to date with virus defs and all the patches and your firewall is working, then you're secure at least. Perhaps you have an IP that was someone elses...

    Kind of glad the eBay column isn't there. Can't browse Edmunds from work that much now since the eBay ads trigger a corporate policy violation (our proxy blocks eBay).

    -Brian
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Ya, I would think it's pretty safe.
    Had to turn off the visual alert as it gotten to be annoying.

    -Dave
  • SylviaSylvia Member Posts: 1,636
    Huh. It might do a port scan to try to identify the remote computer OS? I have no clue. If you want to email me more details I'd be happy to bounce it over to the tech team and ask.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    so, what's up with the ebay ads? gone temporarily or ...?

    -Brian
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Thanks for the thoughts for my countrymen. However, it appears that the only Australian National who was injured was a five year old child of Australian Indonesian parentage who was collecting her passport with her mum. Her mum was killed along with many other Indonesians. So many Indonesians (particularly from Jakarta) live here that we all have friends and neighhbours who are affected to some extent.

    The senselessness of bombings has always amazed me. This one appears targeted at Australia because we are in the midst of our Federal Election campaign and some terrorists believe that terror attacks will alter the country's attitude to overseas troop deployments. Our system of Government relies on the leader of the largest party in the Federal Parliament becoming the Prime Minister. The practical effect has been neutral and bipartisan. Neither political party is keen to score points on a topic that will likely come back to bite them. They both recognize the reality here, as in the USA, that a further bombing, closer to home, is possible, maybe likely.

    Perversely, I have one of the few jobs that can benefit from a bombing. (Actually given that I made the same comment for the positive aspects of a Hurrican on my profession, it will make me sound like an undertaker, rubbing his hands at the thought of new business). Because of my experience in Britain in the 1990's, when the IRA were aggressively pursuing their campaign, I am one of the few Loss Adjusters in Australia with direct bombing experience. I have been writing and lecturing on the topic recently. http://www.fleishman.com.au/abr/aug03/terror.html
    It is the sort of knowledge that you don't set out to acquire and once gained you hope not to re-use. At least that's my prayer.

    On the motoring topic, I'll leave you with the cheerless thought that the damage on this occassion was caused by a one tonne van of explosive, a favourite size and technique for the IRA also. Look around your city office loading dock and you will see maybe a dozen such vehicles at any time. Even a Station wagon (say a Forester or Outback to keep it on topic) can easily pack in half a tonne of destruction.

    Not so Cheers

    Graham
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    It's not Edmunds that is probing. It's the company call Omniture. They are the ones that are attempting access into the PCs.

    Sent you an e-mail.

    -Dave

    p/s I spoke too soon. They're probing again >:\
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Just saw them filming one in front of my building here at work. 2 black volvo V70 or V90s. Deep tinted windows all around.

    Only caught the tail end of them packing up.

    -mike
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Graham: Although the topic is unpleasant to say the least, that was a well written article. It makes me put my typical columns on things like pharmaceutical package labeling and risk management of electronic data in their proper perspective. The only time I've come close to those issues has been when I've advised clients on business contingency and disaster recovery plans. Thank you for sharing.

    On a lighter, automotive note - and one for which I seek your knowledge:

    I'm aware that the cars from which I draw my screen name, Studebaker Larks, were used by various Australian state and local governments for police duties. I've also read that the Larks did fairly well for themselves at the races in Bathurst. Beyond a Google search, are there any local resources you may know of that have photos or other information about the Larks at Bathurst?

    I'm the editor of my local Studebaker club's newsletter and I'd like to write a little something up in the future for the membership. A couple of years ago I wrote an article about Studebaker successes in the Trans-Canada Rally before that event became part of the FIA World Rally Championship which was well received.

    Thanks,
    Ed
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Bathurst is a bit of an odd story. The 500 mile race started at Phillip Island in, I think 1960. Phillip Island circuit is fast, open and windy and has a reverse camber on one corner nearest the Ocean. It is now the scene of the Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix. After a year or two the 500 mile race moved to Bathurst where a street circuit, actually a tourist road to the top of Mount panorama and back down again, provides a pretty special race. 364 days of the year, this is a toursit road with a 60km speed limit and you can see tourists towing there caravans around the scenic route. Then one day in October, it goess mad.

    Through the 1960's and 1970's the race was pretty much stock prodcution cars with some unexpected winners. In 1966 Minis took out the first 9 places. Given the main staraight (Conrod) is down hill for about 2 km off Mount Panorama falling by 170m (about 530 feet) the speeds you can achieve are impressive. The end of the straight is a simple left turn with the pit straight followed by another left and a climb at grades up to 1 in 6 back to the top of the mountain.http://www.nzmustang.com/Bathurst/bathurst.htm gives a few clips of the circuit.

    More commonly, the successful cars at Bathurst are those with the best endurance. Local Holdens and Fords did very well but all suffered pretty heavily on the brakes front. American cars are ill suited as the suspension and brakes are rarely up to much and they tend to die too early. In the earliest years a few ford Cutomlines were tried.

    Winners over the years have included a Vauxhall Cresta, Mercedes 220S and a few years of Ford Cortinas. It is surprising how frequently the winner is a small, well prepared saloon.

    Studebakers competed through the early 60's, even coming second in 1961 and 1962. I have seen some photos somewhere. They seemed big cars back then compared to the iottle Morris and Simcas they competed against.

    Larks were ued extensively by the Police, particualrly as Radio cars and pursuit vehicles. Here in Victoria, I can remember them being used as local patrol cars painted in the classic Police Powder Blue http://www.acay.com.au/~jbartok/viccar1.jpg
    http://www.acay.com.au/~jbartok/viccar2.jpg

    You might get some more useful info from the Studebaker Car Club of Australia http://www.tradingpost.com.au/auto/clubinfo.asp?club_id=138

    A couple of photos of bathurst Studebakers

    http://www.studebakerracing.com/internat.html

    http://www.pixelmatic.com.au/cortina/articles/armstrng.htm

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Neat stuff Graham. :)

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Nabisco is down again. I wonder if Nick took it down because of Ivan the Terrible?

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Perhaps having NAV systems like these will create the demand for timely data, and the entire system will improve, even for people that don't have it.

    Perhaps a while from now we MT fans will have to buy used cars to satisfy our driving preferences.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Thanks, Graham, for the information. I am familiar with the studebakerracing.com site. Anyone who hasn't seen it before owes themselves a look. A lot more can be done with these cars than many realize and, as always, I'm in favor of doing what's necessary to keep them on the road and in the public eye.

    There were a couple of books on Bathurst on eBay but I thought the cost, including shipping from Australia, a bit prohibitive. Maybe if one comes up for sale in North America I'll bite.

    By the way, viccar1 looks very much like my own Studebaker, minus the police gear and in left hand drive, of course.

    Noetworthy that several Subaru WRX see police duty as well as the usual Commodores and Falcons.

    Cheers,
    Ed
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    It's up and running.

    -Dave
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    Yep, I do intend that the boys learn to drive stick, but I'm sure my grandchildren won't.
    Manumatic/Sportshift etc, etc will mollify most fence sitters. Heck, probably half of the new EAT's get better gas mileage than their manual counterparts too.
    I expect that advances will see CVTs become more common and effective. Wondered a few times what a computer controlled CVT could do for WRX performance. Ultra-low gear to give a fast start and spool, then vary to hold it in the torque speet-spot.

    Nicholas
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I taught my lil' bro to drive stick. He has a 2004 Legacy L 5 speed. Atta boy. Good student.

    I also taught my wife, she's owned 3 manuals since then.

    My kids will definitely learn stick. Got to, even if you don't own one, for emergencies.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    forget about getting a new Denali. This has "paisan" written all over it!:

    http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/13/pf/autos/monster_truck/index.htm?- cnn=yes

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/severe/cxt.asp

    BTW, it also has AWD! The GVW is 26K, so anyone with a regular drivers license could drive it.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2004/paris/preview/peugeot- -quark/index.html

    You just knew that sooner or later some car company would the off-road ATV layout, and translate it into a street screamer. Well, Peugeot (of all companies!) is the first to do it.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Nice I like the truck :)

    If only it was in an SUV format I'd be all over that :)

    -mike
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    It needs a bubble over the driver compartment. Then it would have that retro-future look and you wouldn't get wet on a rainy day. Maybe then people might actually consider driving it to work.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Since it doesn't have projector lens, I'm not interested.

    LOL
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Dunno, it has "just" 520 lb-ft of torque, is that enough for paisan?

    That Peugoet concept is SWEEEEEEET! How cool is that? You might say "just get a motorcycle" but that thing would attract more attention than a whole gaggle of bikes.

    I'd like to see a passenger compartment of some sort also.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Since it doesn't have projector lens, I'm not interested.

    Thats what aftermarket driving lights are for. :) The legacy '94 has probably the worst lights I've seen, soon though I'll swap over my HID units from the SVX with the Hella Micro DE HIDs and all will be good :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It's very, very strange, but Subaru lights vary in quality wildly.

    My 1998 Forester has excellent lights, plain halogen but they're great. Nice, broad pattern focused pretty well on the road.

    But Bob's Toaster (2001 Forester IIRC) isn't nearly as good.

    Our 2002 Legacy L has lousy lights. I know that the Outback and Legacy GT from the same year had different lights, in fact my dad's Outback has better lights.

    Why so much variance? We're talking about the same cars.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yup my SVX has projectors and are great. The '98-99 multireflectors on the Legacies are great. It's always a tossup, not sure why there is such variance though.

    -mike
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Our 1999 OB sux0rs, light-wise.

    The FXT has the best lights I've ever driven.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    But Bob's Toaster (2001 Forester IIRC) isn't nearly as good.

    Yeah, the cut-off is way too hard, which is terrible on dark country roads with hills and curves&#151;especially in deer country, which is where I live.

    On straight, flat roads, like Interstate highways, the lights are very good. The worst lights I've experienced by far, are the ones on my Explorer.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I guess it's not only Subaru, one test I think C&D had showed the Audi TT's HIDs were among the worst lights they tested, and the basic Mazda Protoge had among the best lights.

    Great lights cheap sounds good to me. Who needs HIDs in the US? We don't have Autobahns.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Yup, my 98 Forester had very good performing headlights as juice mentioned. My 05 LGT wagon easily tops my 98 Forester with excellent projector headlights that are about the best I've seen without going to HID.

    Ken
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