New Mitsubishi Outlander Owners Give us your report

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  • larrys1larrys1 Member Posts: 15
    Not a Mitsu factory product. I went to a local car stereo/security shop that I've used before,and with a good reputation. I have no idea what they installed, but it works fine, and is integrated with the Mitsu remote.
  • picard12picard12 Member Posts: 55
    Does the new outlander have tire noise when cruising on city streets and on Hwy?

    did you notice alot of street noise level intruding into the cabin?

    Was the engine quiet at idle? how was engine noise level during cruising? did you hear engine noise in cabin?
  • edc2007edc2007 Member Posts: 4
    My 2007 Outlander has an annoying noise coming from the front window areas. The dealer says nothing is wrong but I'm not satisfied with the way my complaints have been ignored by the dealer and will complain, verbally and in writing, to Mitsubishi. You should as well.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    There is a separate thread for this specific issue. You could have post it there. And this issue is easily fixed too, so nothing to fret about.
  • jod3jod3 Member Posts: 18
    I have noticed this problem as well. I have not taken the car to the dealer, and the dealer has seemed sketchy. I would think twice before buying one of these cars at this point.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Well it really depends. Not every Outlander sold has this issue. And even the RAV-4 has this issue as well. What I would suggest is for you to do a test drive is such issues exist in the car your interested in. These are minor annoyance that are easily fixed by the dealership at no cost if such issues exists in your vehicle.
  • pippin518pippin518 Member Posts: 12
    interesting....i might have to look around for someone that can do it around here. did it end up costing more than a normal install remote starter?
  • jod3jod3 Member Posts: 18
    Just got a call from the dealer about my 8 day old car. They tried to fix the wind noise in the passanger side door by using silicone. The service guy did not think this worked but mentioned that four other people had the same procedure done. They also mentioned that both bearings in the front end must be replaced, which they said was also a known issue. I owned this car which I do I would not be happy and I would make sure my car is checked out for these problems.

    If I was considering buying one of these cars I would be very very cautious and wait until these issues are resolved.

    There is no paranoia here on this board, there is incompetence from Mitubisishi to put this vehicle on the market with these types of problems.

    Thanks for listening.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    I understand your frustrations, but hardly any other make is perfect and problem free. In my case however, I made steps to have these issues solved, got it serviced, and now my Outlander is problem free. I think the front-end knock and left mirror noise are but minor annoyances when you compare it to a Honda CR-V that would need a rear-differential replacement.

    What I would suggest to new buyers is do your assignment. Take the vehicle for a test drive. These issues are easily identifiable during test drive. We have described it here for you to make an accurate evaluation of the new vehicle. So be a wise buyer, test your vehicle for these problems before buying it.
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    I will be buying the vehicle regardless of these minor initial quality glitches, which are to be expected on a brand new model in its first production year, no matter who the manufacturer is. Most likely they will be fixed by the time I buy the vehicle since the issues are already acknowledged by Mitsu and the TSBs are out or will be out soon. An engine, transmission, design flaws or other major component failures would make me think twice, but these issues are minor and far from being a deal breaker. However, I will keep monitoring this forum for problems and I hope that the owners will continue to post here if something else comes up with their vehicles.
  • bimmer_girlbimmer_girl Member Posts: 19
    I know this is kind of an old topic, but I wanted to let others know about the success of CD TEXT in my navigation system. I burned two CDs to test this out, both mix cds and NOT database-capable. I burned one on Nero and the other on iTunes using the latest software version that has a "Burn CD TEXT checkbox in the preferences". Both worked wonderfully, I don't have to enter anything manually and all of my songs show up when playing the CD and subsequently after it has been recorded to the hard drive. Just wanted to share my success with others to help y'all out!

    Kristina
  • larrys1larrys1 Member Posts: 15
    I really have no issues with my Outlander. Have had it since mid-November. Initially had the front-end knock, but it mysteriously disappeared. I only have a little over 1100 miles on it, and I haven't heard the knock after the first 600 miles or so. No cabin noise, or bad seals. A-okay so far. Just want to let others know that not everyone has had a negative experience.
  • jod3jod3 Member Posts: 18
    I think that this post represents a voice of reason. I really do like the car. I do hope these issues will be resolved. This forum has been help to identify and present solutions to these problems. Tbanks.
  • edc2007edc2007 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for your response. What's the fix for this sound/noise?
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    The mirror housing just needed more insulation. Read here: rcpax, "Left front door rattle - 07 Outlander" #25, 22 Jan 2007 6:30 pm
  • lancialancia Member Posts: 1
    Bought a outlander LS today ,did test drive it,heard no noise whatsoever ,the vehicle was flawless,great engine response ,drove it on city and freeway. for the price i paid ,got more than the CRV i was thinking of getting and felt more happy with it.
    I already own a CRV,was looking for more power especially since where i live is hilly.I'll keep posting any thing i'll experience.
  • disappointed12disappointed12 Member Posts: 15
    my new outlander (XLS 4WD) has excessive wind noise (even at 45-50 mph)...which is unbearable...I cannot even talk on phone in highways.

    it is not around the left mirror ( as someone has complained). It is coming from both sides, most prominently around the roof and windshield/glass area. I also think that the insulation is very bad, since I can count all the vehicles passing by me. Is the roof rails or the aluminium roof cause wind noise?

    everything else is great about this SUV and I was thinking it was a great value for money. I bought it very recently and now I don't even like driving it. The vehicle I test drove did not have this much issue and since I had a color/model preference, I waited and when it arrived, I just picked the vehicle without test driving it (my foolishness!!)

    are these issues covered under warranty....or better still, can I return the vehicle? I am waiting to collect all information and then talk to the dealer.
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    It's been 3 months since I purchased my '07 Outlander XLS in base trim. Put 1700 miles on it. I can say without reservation I have no regrets about buying this car. I put off buying a new car until the redesigned Outlander came out. The wait has been worth it.

    Gas mileage has improved now that the engine is broken in. Used to get 17 mpg in mixed driving, now getting about 20 mpg in mixed driving. First indication I had that the engine had broken in was when the the the range went up. Initially the display showed about a range of 270 miles consistently after a fill up. Now it shows about 300 to 310 miles range after fill up. A small rattle has developed on the right side but I cannot pinpoint its location yet so I can take it in to be looked at up. My 8 year old and 10 year old rode in the 3rd row seat and have no complaints about riding in it. They may change their mind after a long ride.

    Other than that, I have no complaints, this is a great vehicle and I highly recommend this to anybody who's on the fence about buying this. The '07 Outlander did well in the IIHS offset crash test, it got a "Good" rating.
    The black interior showing dust easily is my only peeve.

    On a side note, anybody seen the 07 Lancer? It has the same exact dashboard and front seats as the 07 Outlander. Not surprising since the Outlander is based on the Lancer chassis.
  • kellenbencekellenbence Member Posts: 11
    Well I never owned a Mitsu-Outlander before and wasn't a Mitsubishi fan but WOW they did a very nice job. I had a Jeep Liberty and they ate my last 6 payment so I purchased the Outlander. Very nice interior(tan leather)the whole Nav. thing. Ride very smooth, plenty of pep, Rockford Fos. excellent, sirius SWEET. Gear shifting is SO smooth, I can barely tell the car is running. I have to get used to the gas pedal,there is a one sec. delay when you press, if you press too hard BAM back in the seat you go. I did hear a few loud click sounds on a hard turn. I need to keep an eye on that, only had car for 2 days. no interior noise at all (65 mph)very quiet. I also tested RAV and Honda CRV, ride quality was not even close, I also luv the exterior style and interiors as well. I think they did a very nice job.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    I never had issues with roof noise. Cabin noise performance is better than Honda CR-V or RAV-4. I think a cabin where you barely hear anything from outside is a danger to the driver and passengers. In the Outlander's case however,cabin noise is at a very comfortable level. In fact it is better insulated than my GF's 03 CR-V. I can tell from the cabin temp. And I thought since mine had leather seats that it'll be colder, but it turns out it isn't that cold at all even at near zero temps these past few days. the cloth seats of the CR-v are in fact freezing, and the bottled water left inside the CR-V's cabin turned into ice, while in the Outlander it was still liquid.
  • slaigoslaigo Member Posts: 18
    Bought my XLS 3 weeks ago, I noticed the same thing about cabin noise. I do hear all the cars passing by and the noise they generate. I do believe it is the aluminum roof top, aluminum is a good conductor for both electricity and sound. Other than that, the roof rack installation was probably not done right, possibly not enough insulation where the rack is mounted. Not sure if this can be fixed.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Can you post pictures of your Outlander?
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    I do believe it is the aluminum roof top, aluminum is a good conductor for both electricity and sound.

    if what you're saying is true, then I could have been deaf after sitting through a 16hrs flight from Incheon to O'hare in a Boeing 747 since it's body is 100% aluminum.

    Aluminum roof is one of the best things that happened to the small sized SUV segment. RAV-4 and CR-V has worse cabin road noise than my Outlander. Aluminum roof has made car-like handling a possibility in the Outlander, together with it's rigid bodywork and frame, and standard front strut bars across all trims.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    ".I cannot even talk on phone in highways"
    This is actually a good thing for safety. Seriously, what car has you drove before? All SUV's all taller, boxier, with more wind resistance than cars. Just test any one of them on highway on a windy day. You can easily find and compare noise levels in a spec forms for any car. The only thing you can do now is to trade it in for a car with lower drag coefficient number.
  • slaigoslaigo Member Posts: 18
    A comparable steel to aluminum will block sound better. Perhaps, more insulation should have been placed on the roof. It is also possible that where the roof rack rails are mtd, the insulation maybe thin and this is causing external noise to be distinctly heard inside the cabin.

    The noise does not bother me that much, I have accepted this as a minor inconvenience. I am sure other SUV's have some problems too. I am quite happy with my silver 4wd XLS, currently has 1300 miles on it. I enjoy driving it everyday to work, a total of 50 miles, 15 miles are on the side steet, the rest are on a freeway. I just turn on my CD a little louder to drown any external noise.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    1. Less plastic look on the interior.
    2. Improve road noise.
    3. Navigation System w/ integrated entertainment system.
    4. More comfort for rear bench seating.
    5. Updated Instrument lighting.
    6. Less pushy finance managers who cannot understand the meaning of "No, thank you".
    This is a wish list (post#31) for....................... 2008 Honda Pilot. Wait, there is more (Honda Odyssey 2005+ forum):
    "I have a '07 EX-L RES, which I bought in November. I can hear a lot of outside noise when driving. Its almost as if a window or door isn't completely shut (they all are though). I'm not sure if this is a normal characteristic for Odysseys, or if its some sort of defect. Have others encountered this?"
    "Minivans have more road noise than sedans. Odysseys allow more road noise than other minivans, especially on concrete roads. The current generation ('05 and newer) is better in this regard than the last ('99 to '04)It's rarely an issue for me as I tend have the sound system cranked up."
    "Our '06 EX-L/NAV/RES has a lot of road noise. It's funny, I think our old '00 Odyssey has about the same road noise. I drive them both regularly and prefer the '00 over the '06."
    "Have the dealer check for bad seals. My service manager told me a lot of people complain about the road noise in their 05+'s.
    You can really go to any forum and find similar complains. Bigger, boxier vehicles create more resistance = wind noise.
  • clutchguy77clutchguy77 Member Posts: 25
    Not True....Not ALL Suv's have more wind noise than cars. My mother drives a 06 Chevy Equinox and there is almost ZERO wind noise in the cabin. It's a very quiet comfortable ride.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    You asked for it. Just a few posts from Chevrolet Equinox Maintenance and Repair forum:
    "hey there, I have nothing but trouble here lately with my 05 nox, the front end had a rattling noise and the back seat ratling also new radio, well this is the 10th time in the shop for the front end rattling and the 5th time for the back seat rattling "
    "I have a 2006 AWD LT Equinox. At low speeds(5 to 10 mph tops) you can hear a popping or clicking type noise."
    "Recently, I noticed a grinding noise when I would make sharp turns."
    "It had about 4,000 miles on it. Very bad vibrations when braking over 50 m.p.h."
    "I recently purchased an Equinox and am noticing the same noise upon acceleration. Like a rattlesnake hissing."
    "IS THE NOISE IN THE REAR LIKE ON MY EQUINOX. THE DEALER WAS UNABLE TO FIX ON THE FOURTH TIME SO I HAVE FILED LEMON LAW. WE SHALL SEE."
    "I was hearing a winding like noise from my tires. Come to find out that with only 9000 I had the lf wheel bearing go in my equinox."
    2006 Equinox LT AWD. I've noticed that there's a noise in the back right wheel that comes and goes."
    Very quiet? Take it for a highway ride(60-70 mph) on a windy day. That is if it starts that day.
    "My 2005 Equinox occasionally does not start. This is not on a cold start but rather after sitting overnight"
  • clutchguy77clutchguy77 Member Posts: 25
    Hey Dude..don't get your panties all in a bunch. I'm not saying the car is perfect, as none are. All I was saying is there's almost ZERO wind noise in the cabin when driving and YES...I've driven it on the highway on windy days. So don't say all SUV's automatically have more wind noise.
  • disappointed12disappointed12 Member Posts: 15
    I had posted earlier that my 07 outlander has excessive wind noise. My dealer contacted MITSU and got a response that it is a known issue. I am going tommorow to a nearby dealer to fix it (I live in a different city from where I bought the SUV)...I hope it does fix the wind noise, which is driving me crazy. Below is the response from MITSU, which my dealer gave me. Will keep you guys updated.

    GROUP 42A Body
    Wind Noise From Outside Mirrors - 2007
    Outlander. A wind noise (a light buzz) may
    originate from the outside mirror area of the
    2007 Outlander when driving between 30-40
    mph. The noise may be more apparent in a
    cross wind. To repair this condition, remove
    the plastic cover under the mirror pivot point.
    Apply adhesive backed foam or felt to the two
    tabs, wrapping the foam/ felt around each tab,
    then reinstall the cover. Verify the repair.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    The frictional force (which gives a pressure if it is divided by area) caused by air on a moving body has several sources, and its dependence on speed varies with the geometry of the body, due to turbulence. I think it is usually assumed, for simplicity maybe that the friction goes as the square of the speed, but that may not generally be valid. Somebody who knows more fluid mechanics or aerodynamics should answer this.
    Say hello to your mama.
  • slaigoslaigo Member Posts: 18
    Thanks for the update, I will be visiting my dealer pretty soon. I also noticed that the seal on the roof railing, when depressed feels like it is hollow (has a play). The hatch door opening has no seal at the top, I can see the inside of the cabin looking from the top. Perhaps all these are contributing to the noise. It is still a fun SUV to drive notwithstanding.
  • clutchguy77clutchguy77 Member Posts: 25
    Mama jokes?? Weak dude...weak.
  • slaigoslaigo Member Posts: 18
    "The hatch door opening has no seal at the top, I can see the inside of the cabin looking from the top."

    Ooops. My apologies to everybody on this board. There is a seal on the hatch door.
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    But, can you still see inside of the cabin from the top?
  • solowalkersolowalker Member Posts: 118
    Is it watertight?
  • kellenbencekellenbence Member Posts: 11
    WOW, that's weird because my XLS is SUPER quiet no noise at all, but you fill the grooves or expension joints a little, welcome to low profile tires. I was always told the low profile tires need to have soft rubber and good cross pattens to keep noise down....
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    I think it should be, in mine it is. I've been through several heavy downpours so if anything wrong with the seals it should have become apparent right away. Most seals are made of a rubber tube, and is hollow. I think that makes the seal more pliant and resists hardening better, thus making better seals in the long term. Sealing the cabin from water and wind at pressures close to sealevel doesn't require thick rubbers at all, and the hollow tube rubber is more than enough for this job. I think in most vehicles, the same type of hollow rubber seal are used too.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    Jokes, what jokes? I just politely said hello.
    And yes, with 185 hp it is "Weak dude...weak" indeed. Enjoy your ride.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    I'm really glad that at least you don't hear noises all the time.
    Seriously, I'm driving old school frame SUV for 8 years now (This is why I'm here, time for a change) and it is anything but quiet. I got wind noise, road noise, engine noise, transfer case noise, you name it. That's the beauty of a strong, heavy box on wheels. It helped me move, furnish and remodel my house. It never failed to deliver in a snowstorm. That's why is hard to believe that new, car based CUV is so noisy. IMO it depends what were you driving before.
  • clutchguy77clutchguy77 Member Posts: 25
    I don't have the Equinox, my mother does. Actually I'm picking up my XLS fully loaded tomorrow. Can't wait!! Ordered it over a month ago.. :)
  • clutchguy77clutchguy77 Member Posts: 25
    Hey RCPAX,

    I'm picking up my XLS today. What should i look for when i take for a test drive?? I will be listening for the front end knock and the wind noise on the highway. Any other suggestions??

    Thanks
  • slaigoslaigo Member Posts: 18
    Hi RCPAX,

    Wind noise does not bother me, what does is the noise I hear from other cars passing by. I can count the number of cars that pass by with my eyes closed. I can also hear the engine noise from an idling car next to me at a stop. I honestly thought that there was an open or unsealed window the first time I observed this when I took it home the first time. Perhaps I am not used to this after driving sedans most of my life.

    Going back to the hollow rubber seal on top of the rack rails, the seal sits on top of a hollow channel that flows all the way to the back for draining water that collects inside. When pressing on this seal, a gap is revealed that shows this hollow. I have seen other SUV's with racks that are mounted solidly on top of the roof, or so it seems.

    Just my observation. I still love this SUV, but looking for feedback before I bring it to the dealer for checking.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Yes, basically the front-end knock can be reproduce when you do donut turns. You may start from a full right or left reverse, then go forward and do a full steer on the opposite direction. If the knock is there it should become apparent. It's more of like a popping sound. The mirror noise can be best heared with radio off, running at about 40-50. If you can go somewhere where there is less car traffic and some open field with strong air current, then that should help reproduce the noise, IF ANY. I state again IF ANY. The knock and mirror noise are on a handful of vehicles only and does not apply to all Outlanders.. Beside the things mentioned, just try to check for other things on the vehicle, so you get everything covered. We had reports of radio reception issues here so you might want to look into that too. Good luck, and congrats on your purchase. :D
  • polmcspolmcs Member Posts: 27
    >I wanted to let others know about the success of CD TEXT in my navigation system.

    Cool!!! I have an Oasis CD where the final track is 38 minutes long, of which 30 minutes are blank. When I ripped it to MP3, I edited out the silence and took the file size down from 35MB to around 4MB for the iPod and other MP3 players I have. When I ripped the original music CD in the Outlander, I was wondering why it was stuck on 90% for so long, then I remembered the long final track. I was going to burn the MP3 files back out to a music disk as audio to use in the Outlander, but figured I would lose the CDDB info as the disk probably wouldn't be found. I guess I can use the CD Text functionality to write that out to the disk, so that I dont have to input the artist/track info manually into the music server.

    As for some of the other issues.. I've only actually heard the front end knock twice and they were both within the first 50 miles of driving the car. Fingers crossed on that one.

    As for the wind noise from the mirror, I'll use the info provided in this string and go back to the dealer to see if they can fix the noise, as it's at it's worst at the 30-40MPH speeds which was mentioned in the notice.

    As for the other noise issues, I drove it for the first time in the rain the other day (that's Phoenix for you!) and I could have sworn the rear passenger side window was down and the rain was hitting the seat, judging by the noise that was coming from that area. Of course the window was closed, but I'll keep an ear out for it next time I'm in the car and it rains.

    I also noticed that phone conversations using the bluetooth connection were very loud from outside the car. I was setting up/testing the bluetooth with my wife and I stood in the garage whilst she was in the car with the doors closed. Despite the stereo volume being rather low, I could hear every word I said to her coming out of the car speakers. Be careful what you say over the bluetooth connection especially if there is a soft top next to you in traffic!!! ;)

    Now if only Mitsubishi could fix the lack of RDS on the radio on the Nav system, I would be one real happy camper!
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Now if only Mitsubishi could fix the lack of RDS on the radio on the Nav system, I would be one real happy camper!

    Is this RDS? This is the Navi sytem on UK/Euro Outlanders. I believe the system is similar/identical for the US. I hope we have it, may be we needed to set up a few things in the Navi?

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  • tealkingtealking Member Posts: 1
    I just purchased an XLS with lux pkg and nav system. I have been searching for this car (dark blue) for over a month and finally a dealer in Orange County, CA found one. I got it at a reasonable price. Moving up from a 00Chevy Tracker I have no complaints about the car. It's a delight to drive. :)
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Congrats on your new ride. A blue 07 Outlander would be a nice addition to the current gallery. Hope you can post some nice pics of your SUV in this thread: 07 Outlander Owner's pics. :)
  • disappointed12disappointed12 Member Posts: 15
    I went to the dealer for the wind noise and gave the mirror noise fix bulletin and they did the fix accordingly. Now it has reduced to some extend. I am not getting wind noise from the passenger side. But from the driver side I am getting the noise...but it is not from the mirror. I am feeling that the wind noise is coming from a place above and behind my left ear :) ie. the top corner where the driver door and the B pillar meets. I think it is a problem with the window seal. Does anyone else has a similar problem? I don't know how many more trips I have to make to the to dealer for the issue where my left ear has an irritation once I come out of a drive. :(

    Again everything else about this SUV is great, but the wind noise because of a improper sealing is like having excessive salt for a delicious and great meal...I wonder why MITSU overlooked small things like proper sealing when they did everything else correct. I don't know how many more trips to dealer I have to make for this issue.
    :mad:
  • edc2007edc2007 Member Posts: 4
    I took my 2007 Outlander to the dealer for the 5th time now. They put more foam inside my mirror but that didn't solve the noise/sound. I think you're right about a sealing issue. The noise sounds like a strong cross wind coming across the windshield and rooftop. Maybe the aerodynamics of this model is of poor quality. I'll test drive another Outlander & if I hear the same sound then unfortunately I'll accept the fact that nothing can be done to fix the problem. Then I'll swear-off ever purchasing a Mitsubishi vehicle again. Good luck on your end.
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