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New Mitsubishi Outlander Owners Give us your report

tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
Are you a new proud owner of an Outlander? Tell us all about it here!
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  • texas4texas4 Member Posts: 11
    just signed the papers on 2006 LS tonight.....hope to be visiting this group over the 10 years....
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    I've owned by '07 Outlander XLS for over a week now. Ever since I started reading about it almost a year ago here on Edmunds, I was intrigued and decided to hold off on my new car purchase until the '07 Outlander became available.

    I'm glad I waited. Mitsubishi did a good job with the redesign. The V6 delivers plenty of punch. Mileage could be better but is reasonable. Interior is quiet. The build quality is fantastic, 100% Japanese parts content and built in Japan. Lots of storage and cupholders.

    Base stereo with 6 CD changer is decent. Bonus that it plays MP3s. I love the voice activated bluetooth. It works seamlessly with my Motorola Razr phone. Just say 'Call", "Phonebook", "Dial" etc to make a phone call and the unit responds even on noisy road surfaces.

    3rd row seat though only for small kids, is nice to have and stows into the floor when not in use. Easy to setup and stow. I like the fact that the headrests fold and tuck into the seats during storage. No need to yank the headrests out and store them separately such as those in the Honda Pilot.

    The two piece tail gate is wonderful, no heavy single door to lift or even worse, that opens to the side. I love the keyless locks. Just walk up to the car and it automatically unlocks. No key needed for the ignition, just twist the knob. If the battery on the remote dies, you can remove key that's integrated into the remote, pop the knob off the ignition and insert the key to start the car.

    What other car in this price class let's you switch from FWD to AWD to 4WD? I think only the Outlander offers this feature and not the RAV4, Santa Fe or CR-V. I use this regularly, keeping it in FWD and saving gas when the road is dry and switching to AWD when it rains.

    The interior could be better, bit too much hard plastic surfaces. Surprised there is no lighted vanity mirror. Power drivers seat should be standard in the XLS trim. Don't care for the black interior in my car, it shows dust too easily.

    I've read someone complain that the Outlander bobs and weaves during acceleration and braking. I don't feel that. During hard acceleration, I feel myself pushed back into the seat, not a bobbing sensation. This is an awesome vehicle and I don't think the competition holds a candle to this vehicle. Go get one. :D
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    Thanks for the good review. How is the nose diving during braking - another recent complaint by some?
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Thanks for a nice "personal" review from someone who actually owns it, not by some auto review guy who gets paid by the competition and focuses much on Mitsu's future rather than the vehicle. For those worrying about Mitsu's future in the US, MMNA has consistently increased sales in the past 6 mos., and it looks like this trend will continue now with the Outlander out, and the 08 Lancer and Evo coming.

    I hope to find a dealer close enough in my area who has a graphite gray XLS, so far I haven't got someone who got it in their lot. They can dealer swap though but I don't think I can bargain for a lower price for a dealer swapped vehicle. The usual dealer talk that it costs them money getting the car I want blah blah. So I am doing the hunt for myself, and perhaps save a few hundred bucks.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Did you get to play with the paddle shifters? How about the 6 speed auto trans? are the shifting points okay? or would you rather driver manual using the paddle shifters/stick shift?
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    How is the nose diving during braking - another recent complaint by some?

    I don't notice the nose diving when I brake. But then I don't slam the brakes when I stop. Everyone who rides with me comments positively on the firm but not overly busy ride. This car is built on the next generation Lancer and does not ride like a big boat SUV.
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    Did you get to play with the paddle shifters? How about the 6 speed auto trans? are the shifting points okay? or would you rather driver manual using the paddle shifters/stick shift?

    Yes, the paddle shifters are fun to play with. You can also shift with the gear selector on the console if you prefer that. The shift points with the automatic are just fine. For now I'm using the full automatic. I find that I have a tendency to rev the engine when I shift manually and according to the owner's manual high revs needs to be minimized during the break in period.
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44

    I hope to find a dealer close enough in my area who has a graphite gray XLS, so far I haven't got someone who got it in their lot. They can dealer swap though but I don't think I can bargain for a lower price for a dealer swapped vehicle.


    Based on my experience, don't think you can't negotiate with a dealer swapped vehicle. Initially I was told it would cost $100 to acquire the vehicle from another dealer locally but once the salesperson realized I was serious about buying the car he dropped all mention of that charge. Ultimately I did not have to do a swap, I decided to get the graphite grey that was on the lot.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    "The shift points with the automatic are just fine. For now I'm using the full automatic. I find that I have a tendency to rev the engine when I shift manually and according to the owner's manual high revs needs to be minimized during the break in period."

    That's good, the 6 speed sportronic trans are just what I imagined them to be then. The revvs should be a lot less annoying than the 4spd CRV I am driving now. For someone like me who is used to drive manual, it becomes second nature to reach for the stick shift when you can sense the revvs go up.
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    When in manual mode, does the current gear display?
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    When in manual mode, does the current gear display?

    Yes.
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    "Mileage could be better but is reasonable"
    Can you give us some numbers?
  • rou22rou22 Member Posts: 1
    i just purchased the LS AWD 2 days ago and i love it. I paid $300 over invoice and i'm completely satisfied with my deal. I had been researching this vehicle for quite some time and when it came out, i went to work on the dealers. They did not have a black with black interior in none of the dealerships in Maryland so they had to swap with one in virginia. There is not extra fee for the dealer to do this. If they say it is, they're LYING!!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    It depends on the dealer and the manufacturer. Usually the dealer keeps holdback on the cars they get from the factory, so it's possible for the swapping dealer to make more on the deal than the selling dealer. So some selling dealers won't do a swap without a sweetener to the deal.

    And some dealers won't do a swap without a firm commitment either.

    There's more here if you do a "dealer swap" search - quite a bit shows up in the Dealer Holdback questions discussion.

    For some light "Not the best time to be a car salesman" reading this weekend, check out the link/story in Straightline.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Thanks for this post steve. Another important piece of info I needed before I go to the dealer next week. Now I feel I have a clear understanding how car buying works in the US. It has been a real challenge for me so far, being a first time car buyer.
  • inspectrgadgtinspectrgadgt Member Posts: 1
    I have had the XLS now for about 1 week. I love the way it drives except for the the un-smoothness that the low profile tires give. I thought that it needed an alignment, so I took it back to dealer who told me low-profile tires allow most road imperfections to show through. I still am not 100% convinced.

    I have not noticed nose divng during braking, and I have had to slam on the brakes several times due to deer wanting to cross the road in a hurry.

    I paid well below what I should have, my friend owns the dealership! Got lucky on that one.

    Does anyone else who has the XLS with 18" tires "feel the road" more through the steering wheel? By the way, I am in Pennsylvania so the roads here are not that great.
    Thank you.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Oh, I didn't catch that you were a first timer. Not that it matters; most of us buy new cars so infrequently there's no way we can out-duel a dealer who may sell a half dozen or more cars every day.

    Holdback is just one way the dealer makes money on a deal - there may be other spiffs, bonuses, free trips and cruises and enhanced model allocations that will go to a dealer or salesperson for selling a car that you'll never know about. The sales staff may not even know what bonuses are in play for their manager.

    One strategy is to figure out an out the door price you are comfortable with and stick to that number. Maybe even do the deal by email or fax after the test drive and finding the car on the lot - that way everything is in writing and hopefully there will be fewer surprises.

    There's a whole 'nother chapter about picking up the new car in broad daylight and trying to give it a good going over to make sure there aren't any dings, repaired areas, missing fobs etc. (it's tough to do sometimes, since you get frustrated tying to get through the F&I mop & glow stuff when you really just want to go cruising around town in your new ride).

    Check out the Tips & Advice pages here if you haven't already and don't miss Confessions of a Car Salesman.

    Tidester probably knows some great buying discussions over in Smart Shopper to skim.
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    "Mileage could be better but is reasonable"
    Can you give us some numbers?


    I've not done any calculations yet. I'm basing this on my the readout from the dashboard reading that tells you what your average mpg is.

    Driving at a steady speed on country roads around 40 mph the displays shows I'm averaging 17 mpg. On the highway around 60 mph I'm averaging 24 mpg.

    Here's the rub. The factory sticker says the mileage estimate is 19 city 22 highway. However, Edmunds and the www.fueleconomy.gov says 19/26 for the 4WD Outlander. Which is correct? If the my car's computer is correct, I should be getting close to the government numbers once the engine is broken in.
  • jowettjowett Member Posts: 12
    Have you taken note of the rpm,s at a constant highway speed yet? Interested to know if Mits has taken advantage of that 6 spd auto by lowering the highway rpms say at a constant 60 or 70 mph.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    "Here's the rub. The factory sticker says the mileage estimate is 19 city 22 highway. However, Edmunds and the www.fueleconomy.gov says 19/26 for the 4WD Outlander. Which is correct? If the my car's computer is correct, I should be getting close to the government numbers once the engine is broken in."

    I think nothing really beats doing the math yourself. I have seen this very simple technique before in a commercial for a "gas saver" device. First fill the tank until full, the pump auto shuts off. Note the mileage reading on the dash, or let the trip odometer run. Drive your car as you would do normally, consuming a tank full of that gas, but make sure you'll have enough left to go back to that same gas pump to refuel (just to keep the "pump factor" constant in the equation). At the pump, before refueling, read how many miles was run on that tank of gas. Then fill it up again until the pump shuts-off automatically. Simple math: miles run/gallons filled=actual mileage. Only then will you know the true mileage. You can then do this on every refuel you do, and get an average number for your mileage.
  • njawdrivernjawdriver Member Posts: 23
    I picked up my new XLS earlier in the week. I tested the Outlander against the CR-V (not enough power / didn't like the drive), RAV4 (I4 underpowered, V6 - too much power with a sensitive throttle, uncomfortable 2nd row seat, don't like the rear door), and Hyundai Santa Fe (nice drive, nice interior - reminded me of my wife's Acura MDX, decent power...but did NOT handle nearly as well as the Outlander). First full tank of gas gave me just under 22 mpg with about 70% local, 30% highway driving. Instant MPG read about 26 MPG when I was on the highway. The car drives GREAT.

    Gripes -

    Visors feel VERY cheap, are not lighted, and do not extend the lenth of the window.

    Side mirrors should be heated on a car with heated leather seats.

    Automatic rear mirror is not available (again, should at least be an option on a $30k car).

    Nav system - Display of street names on background could be clearer (and is much clearer on our MDX). POI database is really small. System does not speak the name of streets you need to turn on.

    Stuff I Love -

    Car handles great. Acceleration is very good.

    Leather seats are very comfortable.

    Bluetooth integration works very well and includes an on-screen caller ID display.

    Dial to switch from 2WD to 4WD to 4WD lock works great - tested this weekend driving on a loose gravel roadway.

    HID headlights - great.

    FAST Key - If you get this feature, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it!

    NAV system - hard drive based system is super quick at recalculating routes.

    Hard drive MP3 player - works nicely at burning / replaying CDs. I still need to test the "delete" function and find out if there's a way to tell it to *not* copy every CD that is put in the drive.

    Fold out hatch - Great place to change out of your muddy hiking boots. The clamshell shaped trunk will definitely make loading / unloading easier and using it as a seat is a great bonus.

    Price paid - Invoice.
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    Have you taken note of the rpm,s at a constant highway speed yet? Interested to know if Mits has taken advantage of that 6 spd auto by lowering the highway rpms say at a constant 60 or 70 mph.

    Yup, noticed that the around 60 mph it's turning at approximately 2000 RPM.
  • mrmister2000mrmister2000 Member Posts: 86
    Hard drive MP3 player - works nicely at burning / replaying CDs. I still need to test the "delete" function and find out if there's a way to tell it to *not* copy every CD that is put in the drive.

    Do you happen to know if the system is capable of "encoding" music in formats other than MP3 to the hard drive? For example, does the Music Server let you say opt to put the music files on the hard drive as Ogg Vorbis, or MP4 files... instead of the typical MP3?

    Also, has anyone considered replacing the 30GB hard drive that comes standard with a larger one... in order to further increase music storage capacity? (Note: Doing this may or may not void the warranty, so even if it's possible to do this I do not recommend doing it... I was just curious if it was possible).
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    Yup, noticed that the around 60 mph it's turning at approximately 2000 RPM.

    This is pretty low, isn't it? It sounds like an effortless ride.
  • podracerdavepodracerdave Member Posts: 10
    I purchased the Outlander XLS 4WD over the weekend. I did not upgrade to any of the packages offered. I had to upgrade from my two-door 2002 Acura RSX. With a 1-year old and another child on the way, it had to go! The Outlander seems to be a good size car that will hold the two kids. I have only driven it 150 miles so far, but so far I really enjoy the ride. I like how the 2nd row seats slide back to give a little extra rooms for baby seats. I am a first time Mitsubishi owner, so I hope all goes well :)

    I paid invoice, and received a good trade-in value, so I am happy with my purchase so far.
  • mrmister2000mrmister2000 Member Posts: 86
    Wow, it seems like a lot of you have been getting your new Outlanders for Invoice price? This sounds promising!

    If this could hold true in my case then that means a 4WD XLS with Nav, Sun&Sound, Luxury, and Accessory Protection packages would weigh in at just under $28,856, or about $2,000 under MSRP. Subtract from that the $500 college grad rebate and that would bring the total to around 28,356. Sounds like a good deal to me for everything you would get given this case. Of course, this would be the best-case scenario and may or may not be likely.

    I received another call from my local Mitsu dealership today asking me when I'm gonna come in... but I'm still trying to resist the temptation to visit the lot until I'm sure my finances are in order. It's just killing me though... I really want to see this thing in real life! Chances are good, however, that I'll "give in" soon and go over to the dealership for a look. I only hope I'll be able to show some self-control as far as the wallet is concerned! :P
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    We're in the same boat! :D The same config, and looking at the same rebate. I hope we get a good deal! :D
  • piastpiast Member Posts: 269
    Then go without your wallet. It is very good practice to test drive a car and give yourself a cooling time. I would suggest testing competition the very same day. Take somebody with you, just in case.
  • podracerdavepodracerdave Member Posts: 10
    Not sure how they would deal on a fully loaded Outlander with all the package add-ons. I should have asked, but wasn't interested in any of the packages. I did get the graphite gray color that I wanted though :)
  • abangabang Member Posts: 44
    I've had my '07 Outlander XLS for 3 weeks now. I'm still pleased with my purchase, no regrets whatsoever. I'm still not happy about the interior, the hard plastics are showing scuff marks. The FM tuner could be better. It looses signal strength in areas where my Pioneer tuner in my other car has no problems with. I've verified the antenna on the roof of the Outlander is as high as it can go. Occasionally the locks don't work when I push the lock button on the driver's side door handle. I can use the remote to lock in that situation. I'd buy this car again in another heartbeat, but with the beige interior this time.
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    I'd buy this car again in another heartbeat, but with the beige interior this time.

    I'd totally agree. Mine came with beige, and I love it.
  • polmcspolmcs Member Posts: 27
    I bought a 2WD XLS with nav, sound and premium at the weekend and my first impressions of the car are mostly good, though there are a few grouches too, but nothing that would make me regret the purchase.
    I chose the blue color, which the dealer didn't have on the lot, but said he could get it for me. I waited a few hours whilst he went and picked up the car and prepared it for me whilst I signed the paperwork. I was shocked when I went out to the car, because instead of blue, the car looked violet/purple to me. My wife also thought that the car was not blue and we agreed that neither of us liked the color at all, so we asked the dealer to switch it to the graphite color. They agreed to swap out the car, so we hung around for another few hours whilst they sourced the car and prepared that one for us. All in all, it took around 8 hours at the dealers, but that was partly our own fault.

    As for the car, we both love the looks of it from the outside. Not too minivan-ish!!! :) It drives very well and the power is reasonable (We had a Forester a few years back and it could definitely do with 2 more cylinders). The real bonus for us was the added space of an SUV without sacrificing too much on fuel economy. We hadn't considered an SUV as a replacement car, but I was intrigued with what I saw on the Outlander on a TV ad. My wife's car is a G35 coupe which though fun to drive, isn't very practical, so we needed a sensible second car. I had my heart set on a new G35 sedan, but the kicker on that model, was that the nav system required that the 6 disk CD player be located in the trunk and that looked like it would cause all sorts of issues with luggage space.

    I took it for a test drive and was impressed with the handling and response. The paddles were fun to use and definitely more useful than the ones on my then current Saab model. I did notice a little wind noise on the highway which I'm guessing was coming off the roof rails, but then again, the car comes with a 650W stereo to fix that problem ;) Other likes include the bluetooth with caller ID and the music server built into the Nav system

    As for gripes, no homelink, no memory seat(s), no telescoping steering wheel and no auto dimming rear view mirror, all which are pretty much standard on cars approaching $30K. Also in the negative column, is the fact that you can only record to the music server using a music CD. There is no option to copy existing MP3 files straight from CD to the HD. Ripping from CD, even at 4x speed takes 10-15 mins per CD. At 2500 songs, we're talking 40+ hrs here ! The G35 had a flashcard slot to assist with file transfer. Also, I couldn't find a quick way to pause/stop a CD, or the music server. Finally, the radio is a bit disappointing. Despite having Sirius built into the Nav system, the normal radio doesn't support RDS information. All you see in the frequency of the station and not the station name, track, artist, etc. I'm guessing they want to force you to a Sirius subscription if you want that, despite the fact that a number of radio stations do broadcast that information.

    On the whole, it's still so far so good
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Thanks for the review. :) I'd like to add my 2 cents on some points you mentioned.

    you can only record to the music server using a music CD. There is no option to copy existing MP3 files straight from CD to the HD.

    From the manual, this limitation seem to be a legal matter, rather than technical. To add to those legal limitations, MP3 files stored on the HDD can not be played on any other platform.

    Ripping from CD, even at 4x speed takes 10-15 mins per CD

    I believe this one is a technical issue. We know for a fact that MP3 compression requires some processing power. For a consumer product which does not have the power of a Core 2 Duo, I would say that speed is decent enough.

    I had this SUV for a week now, and I'm halfway the break-in period of 500 miles. So far, so good. I have yet to meet another 07 Outlander on the road near our area. So yes, it's always a smile when people start "checking out" the car at the stop light ;)
  • lukidolukido Member Posts: 16
    Just got done reading these reviews, but I am yet to see the problem that I am having with my new 2007 G-Type Outlander (Japanese top model)that I bought a month ago. The front end was making a loud knocking noise when turning left or right from a stand still. Went back to the dealer and had the front bearings replaced two days ago. The noise has come back. The dealership told me that Mitsubishi is now designing a new bearing assembly. So I have to wait until it arrives. Anyone else have this problem?

    L
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    I would think that chances are that you will find an answer to your problem on a Japanese forum rather than a North American one. The Japan had the Outlander for over a year now, while in NA it's been on sale for just over a month.
  • lukidolukido Member Posts: 16
    Noted. However I'm just searching to see if this is a common problem among the 2007s. Considering that I bought mine just over a month ago.
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    I see. How is the overall Outlander's reliability in Japan? You had more time to evaluate. Does the Outlander still outsell the RAV4 and CRV in Japan ?
  • polmcspolmcs Member Posts: 27
    From the manual, this limitation seem to be a legal matter, rather than technical.

    Just for grins, last night I took an album folder that had been ripped from a CD to MP3 format and used Windows Media Player to re-create an audio CD from the MP3 files. I then took the newly burned audio CD and put it into the Outlander. The player was quite happy to play and record the newly minted audio tracks. What really surprised me was that the player was able to identify and label the album and the track information!! Normally the player uses the disk ID string and compares that to the CDDB database on the HD. There is no way that the reconstituted audio CD would have the same ID as the original music CD, so the player must be using some other mechanism to retrieve the track information. I thought perhaps that it was using CD text and that WMP had extracted the MP3 tag information during the conversion from MP3 to an audio track and was using this for the CD text string, but placing the disk into the CD player on my home theatre system, which can read CD text, gave no indication that cd text strings were present on the disk. Playing the disk on a PC using WMP also shows the track/album info is unknown. That will have to remain a mystery for now!!

    The crux of the matter is that there is nothing to stop a user taking an MP3 track, converting it to an audio track and then having the music server rip the track back to digital music, so they aren't saving themselves from any legal issues by forcing users to rip from audio tracks. In my mind, it's more of a technical issue. I'm guessing that as the ripped music on the HD can't be played on other systems, the player isn't encoding the data in MP3 format at all and is using some propriety format, possibly to save them money on an MP3 license, or as legal protection from the music industry.

    It really is a pain to have to rip each CD from scratch again. I have roughly 22GB of music (all owned legally by myself) and I would have preferred to select 10GB worth that I wanted in the car, copied to CDs in MP3 format (the player wont read a DVD disk of MP3 data -that would have been sweet and too easy!) and have the player pull the music off the disks. That would have been so much quicker and I wouldn't have to worry about switching the engine off in the middle of an audio to digital rip.

    On a side issue regarding the note about the front end knock, twice now I've felt/heard a clunk coming from the front end as I've started to turn the wheel whilst reversing. At first I though maybe I had clipped something, but I'll pay more attention to it in future
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    Good thing you did the MP3 to CD conversion, I was thinking of that too, but didn't have the time to do it yet. The way I see it, CDDB labeling has something to do with track duration and the exact tracks order, not much on CD Text/media ID etc.

    In my mind, it's more of a technical issue

    I would still maintain my opinion regarding this being a legal limitation because they even go further to "one time only" recording of tracks from the same CD media.

    On a side issue regarding the note about the front end knock, twice now I've felt/heard a clunk coming from the front end as I've started to turn the wheel whilst reversing. At first I though maybe I had clipped something, but I'll pay more attention to it in future

    You're not alone on this one. I have that too. I am at an initial conclusion that it might be an ASC thing or a Powersteering thing. The manual says you hear some whining/vibration from the engine area, which should be normal. Still, I'll have a close watch on this one. I notice it on reverse and on front left/right turns. I would hear it on an occasional basis, not on every hard turn, and its usually within some 10 minutes after I turn the car on. One time I had the car left running at the garage after we came back from a 3 day vacation, and I would hear some clunking sounds from the engine area during the first 5-10 mins, which I thought could be some systems doing a initializing/self-check. Let us know if you find out more about this.
  • lukidolukido Member Posts: 16
    Yes. The sound is definitely more prevalant while turning in reverse. Seems that this problem is not an isolated thing. I will be going to my dealership again tonight. It's not going to be pretty. :mad: I'll let you all know how it turns out in regards to getting this problem fixed.

    As for the Outlander outselling its Toyota and Honda counterparts, I'm not sure. But they did get the jump on them when they released their 2007 version. Mitsubishi has already sold over 5000 Outlanders across Japan. Far exceeding their goal of 3000 units. Looks like a homerun for Mitsubishi. I just hope that this front-end issue doesn't start to rain on their parade.

    L
  • polmcspolmcs Member Posts: 27
    Well my car is back at the shop, as the day after I picked the car up, I noticed that the Nav 'joystick' had snapped off. It was dark when I picked the car up, so didn't notice then. My wife also noticed that the horn doesn't work! I'll ask the service dept. tomorrow if there are any service bulletins regarding the front end when they call to let me know the car is ready.

    As for the CDDB, I took a mish-mash of MP3s from different artists and albums and burned them out to an audio CD. This time the Outlander had no idea of the artist, or track name, so there is no CD text string being included with the audio track. I'm thinking the CD had a lucky guess on the first disk based on the number and length of audio tracks on the CD :)

    I'll report back after I've spoken to the service chap
  • rcpaxrcpax Member Posts: 580
    @lukido and polmcs: Guys please do update us when you get word from the dealership on the front end "clunk".
  • lukidolukido Member Posts: 16
    Most definitely.
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    Hey LUKIDO, how is the RED color called in Japan?
  • blackb13blackb13 Member Posts: 35
    SO, after browsing the other Outlander models (japan/australian), it looks like we got shafted on a couple of things.

    1.) Standard cargo cover
    2.) Back up camera (japan)
    3.) Back up sensors (australia)
    4.) Heated/Cooled glove box. You can even see the cutout in the upper box...go look for yourself.
    5.) Power folding/heated mirrors
    6.) A ton of OEM accessories:

    http://tinyurl.com/u2a3b

    Overall I'm extremely pleased with my XLS AWD. Gripes include: no backup camera, poor pass front legroom, no option for foglight on/off, HDD doesn't store MP3's/WMA's, and no telescopic steering.

    I love the HID's, Nav, heated seats, and smooth ride.

    YMMV, etc...
  • lukidolukido Member Posts: 16
    Hey Dodo,

    The colour is called RED SOLID. I see that it's not available in the US.
  • dodo2dodo2 Member Posts: 496
    Thanks. Indeed, no red shade is available in the US yet, but the rumor is that it will be soon.
  • needforspeed29needforspeed29 Member Posts: 13
    I love the exterior appearance of the outlander, but based on the pictures I have seen, the interior seems a little cheesy. Does it look better in person because this is the one drawback in deciding whether to buy or not. Any feedback would be appreciated.
  • spyderonespyderone Member Posts: 54
    I think the interior is very nice and sporty looking, especially the black and beige interior. The seats seem to be very comfortable and suportive. Some of the plastics are hard such as the door panels and the dash, but I think that is what car manufacturers are doing now (it is the same way in my Pontiac Solstice). Sun visors seem to be very cheap as well as the 3rd row seat (I wish there was an option to leave it out and just have an additional storage space like the Santa Fe) and the center console is very small (not like I had in my Murano). Overall, I think you will like it. It is one of my top picks along with the Santa Fe, but I am leaning more toward the Outlander.
  • ken4nyken4ny Member Posts: 40
    I just ordered a 2007 XLS AWD with navigator, sun and sound package and luxury package. I paid $28,595 including destination charge which is about $35 over invoice. The estimate delivery day is early Jan. 2007. The dealer told me that if they try to get the car from another dealer. It would cost more so I just put down the deposit and wait for the new shipment. They can reserved the car for me with the color that I want.

    Since they didn't have the XLS AWD in stock. I was only test drove the XLS FWD. The ride was nice and smooth. I Drove the car for about 10 minutes. It was only a test drive. I didn't push the car real hard and all local driving. Cannot go very fast in New York City driving so that I can't tell you much about the performance. My impression was love at first sight. This car has everything that I want and more. My friend just bought an Acura MDX with similar features and cost him well over $40,000. For all the features you found in the loaded XLS AWD and paid close to the invoice. I think I made the right decision.
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