About the towing, my sequoia tow's my trailer better than a tahoe. Ne wayz, where did you get the info on the future LC with a 5.4L. If it is true, should I wait till it comes out or ?
I placed an order for one (Toyota/Factory) online for around $35-45 or so shipped.(can't remember the exact price) Absurd I know but I doubt any aftermarket magazines exist for the LC system. Mine is an '03..
Coupon code: rav4world in small case letters to get 15% off entire order. S/H included and no tax as they're located in Oregon. Contact guys name is Larry. Very nice guy.
There are a couple of other sources out there but S/H tends to be a bit on the pricey side.. I've had no problems with the above site.
I am going to buy a trailer home and it weighs approx. 5000lbs. I need to know if the LC can handle that kind of weight and how it does on the road (going uphill, accelerating, etc...)
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5000 is within the limits of the Cruiser but its getting close to the limit. The LC is wide for its length which adds to stability. It is also fairly short which reduces stability. You should be fine pulling it with the LC but extra caution is in order.
One final note here is that if you do this, remember to keep the LC out of overdrive when towing. Even though the LC has a transmission cooler, you can overheat the tranny if you use overdrive.
Hi! I need some advice, and this seems the best place to get it. I am looking at a 96 Land Cruiser in pretty good shape--just a few cosmetic flaws like some wearing of the shifter and a mild scratch in the paint--with 78000 miles on it. The dealer let me drive it home last night, and I love it, but they want 18,900 for it. Edmunds says that this is a bit high. What do you think? Also, what sorts of maintainance issues should I be aware of in the next couple of years? How much do items like timing belts and water pumps cost? I am returning the car this evening, so any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!
I read this site before buying my '96 Lexus(LX450) and found the following to be true: --brakes can be a problem --rear main seal leaks?? --lack of drink holders --front leg room
Concerning the price of $18.9, I also think that is a bit on the high side.
Aside from keeping it out of overdrive, the only thing I can think of to tell you now is to watch how you load it. Make sure you get a ball mount kit that keeps the trailer close to level. If you find you have too much tongue weight, find a way to shift the load on the trailer. If that doesn't work, you can raise the tongue height a bit which reduces the tongue weight.
Two completely different trucks. Has to be a personal preference issue, but the prices speak volumes about the longevity, quality, and market value for the two trucks. Wonder what the Chevy will be worth at 120,000 miles?
The LC's have the same engine as the Seq. (4.7 L, V8), but why is it that the LC needs premium gasoline? I have asked the parts department, service man, and sales and no one seems to know why.
From what I understand, the LC doesn't "need" Premium, Toyota recommends Premium as you will obtain optimal performance. The engine as far as I know is the same one found on the '03 4Runner,Seq,LC and the Lexus GX470/LX470. I'm sure you can get away with running Reg Unleaded. I've done both but for now have elected to run Premium for the break in period..Don't really know if that will make a difference but I'm doing it anyways..I don't care to pay the $0.20 premium over regular but will do it for now..I may start alternating w/ Regular Unl. and Premium Unl. once I've passed a couple thousand miles... Anyone know the "point of break in" on the 4.7L V8?
The key is in the compression ratios. There is probably a different ratio for so called "the same engine" If you do not mind or feel the corresponding loss in HP, therefore performance, it will run unleaded regular just fine. The higher compression ratios need premium so it does not burn as fast as unleaded to enable it to get the maximum compression for burning.
I've also heard that under the right conditions, a LC engine, with the higher compression ratio, can start knocking with low octane fuel due to pre-spark combustion.
I've only found that both the LC and Seq.'s have a 9:6:1 compression ratio.
I am of the opinion that the same 4.7 engine, with slightly different tuning, powers the Sequoia vs. Land Cruiser, thus the different gas recommendations, horsepowers, timing, etc...
BTW: At the Chicago auto show the toyota rep said a new engine will be introduced in 2005.
Are you aware that you can still buy the Toyota Platinum warranty as if it were still a new car? It must be purchased before the 3/36 expires. They are not cheap for the Cruiser but they are very comprehensive.
On the LX 470..it has the same engine as the LC but is required to put in premium gas, yet the LC doesn't. Does that mean that they are two different engines? Also, why does the manufacture form different car companies make engines with different compression ratios? If a car has a hiugher compression ratio..does it mean that it will perform better?
Actually, the LC manual does call for premium. As to why it does and the Sequoia does not, I have no idea. I suspect the difference in rated HP has something to do with it.
I think the fact that since the computer's control much of the old time mechanical functioning that any grade will work. The difference is that the premium gas allows more HP. If for cost reasons, or you dont care about higher HP, use the 87 unleaded.
I read somewhere that for a 400 hp Vette on premium gas there can be up to a difference of 30 hp. While I have not put my Landcruiser on the dyno I am sure that the ratio is probably the same.
Just left the dealer where I had every intention of test driving / buying a 2003 4Runner. He had a 2002 black LC on the lot with Nav, etc., and quoted around $47K for it (a little high I think, but only 8800 mi - owner's wife's demo). Anyway, the list on the 4Runner we want (V8 limited w/ Nav) is around $42.6K - might be able to get it around $40K(?).
Assuming I can get the LC closer to $45, what should I do? Is 1 year old LC worth the extra 5K over the new 4Runner?
I was in the market for the '03 4Runner but due to lack of headroom, I went with the LC. I'm 6'2" and no matter where I placed the seat in the 4R, my head would touch the liner unless I leaned the seat back a ways. Too uncomfortable for safe driving. The LC has tons of room with seating for 8. Also a big plus for a family..I absolutely love the vehicle.Very nice handling for a truck it's size. If you can get the '02 for the 5K difference,I'd say go for it.Being cost prohibitive is it's only fault(new).My only reservation would be the color:) I've got a full size P/U in black and I've vowed never to own another vehicle in that color..
Hello, this is my first posting to your discussion group. However, over the past month, in the course of buying my '99 TLC, I read your entire discussion, beginning with the very first message! And I must thank you, because I've learned so much, and have been greatly reassured by all of you, through the sleepless nights of the 'no cooling off' period. Not that I have any regrets! I do have a question, though, which I didn't see addressed on this board. I can't seem to turn off my headlights or running lights, which remain on even during the brightest hours of the day. I asked the service manager of the dealership, who seemed to say that this is normal. Is it? Thanks for responding.
Daytime running lights, to the best of my knowledge, can't be turned off. Regular headlights....use the switch. Or, if the switch is on automatic, take your Starbucks cup off the dash and uncover the photo-electric light sensor. If that doesn't do it, I'd be stumped.
I also dislike those DRL's . Toyota has a technical service bulletin dated October 6 ,2000 that explains how to disable the DRL. Your best bet is get in contact with LIGHTSOUT.ORG If you want send me your E-mail address I I'll give you more info or do a GOOGLE in the search type drl the full name . Good luck , hopes this help . Thank you
Don't know if any of you followed up on the Lexus Event that was posted here or not. I went to the one in Malibu yesterday. I thought it was very well done and there was great food and no sales pressure of any kind. They had the LX and GX 470s, RR HSE (I was surprised by that), Discos, X5s, Escalades, MB 55 (the AMG version), Lincoln Aviator. While the trail was mild, the LX 470 stomped the others, though the BMW was the most spirited. I don't know if the sponsors "rigged" the RR or not, but what a piece of manure it was. Keep in mind these were new vehicles and this thing squeaked and I tried to adjust a switch on the center console and the cover to it came off! There were two of them there and they both squeaked! I didn't care for the GX at all. Went with two other LC buddies and we all concluded that the LX was very impressive. One of the Escalades got the running board hammered.
I'm thinking about buying a set of snow chains for my 2000 LC. Last week, we got a ton of snow in the Denver area. I did manage to get myself stuck in the snow. I should have continued driving on the plowed streets, but I wanted to test the LC.
I doubt I would put myself in that same situation, but I would not mind having some snow chains in the back (just in case). Has anyone tried putting snow chains on their Land Cruiser?
Scroll up a bit and you will see some comments on tire chains for the LC. I've use Z cable chains on the rear only and on both axles and ion the deeper snow they will definately help you get further into the drift before allowing you to get stuck
In wet heavy snow (like Denver just got), chains will not help once you get high centered. In light powder though I've plowed through snow up to the headlights with two sets of chains.
Personally, if I lived in anyplace that gets snow every winter I'd buy a set of snow tires instead.
Eighty-seven-octane gasoline is gasoline that contains 87-percent octane and 13-percent heptane (or some other combination of fuels that has the same performance of the 87/13 combination of octane/heptane). It spontaneously ignites at a given compression level, and can only be used in engines that do not exceed that compression ratio.
However, in some engine designs spark timing is deliberately retarded during critical operation to avoid knock. Retarding ignition timing by two degrees will reduce octane requirement by about one number. This would explain the octane differences of two engines with identical compression ratios. Both the basic setting of the spark timing and the operation of the automatic spark advance mechanisms are important in controlling knock.
In some computer-controlled engines, the spark timing can only be changed by replacing modules in the computer. If they are equipped with knock sensors (like the Toyota/Lexus 4.7), these computer-controlled engines have the ability to retard the ignition temporarily when a sensor detects knock. This temporarily reduces the octane requirement and may also temporarily reduce vehicle performance.
I'd have to agree:-)...of course, you hate to have any engine knock occur because the BIG ones can damage the internals. I've run my LC for 2 straight tank-fulls on 87 without any noticable engine knocks, but they might be too small for me to notice. Anyone ever heard their engine come a-knock'in?
The last time gas prices went through the roof, I went cheap and used 87 octane in my 2000 LC. Noticeable knock, ping and performance degradation began after 3 or 4 tanks. I haven't used 87 octane since in my LC.
I'm thinking mid-90s... would like to spend no more than low teens... lower is even better.
Aside from trying for as low mileage as is feasible, what other things would you warn/suggest?
- In what years have body styles changed significantly?
- Any years with big problems to watch for?
- How horribly old would, say, a '94 look?
I'd like to go for an older, top-of-the-line LandCruiser that's been relatively pampered. May take me awhile to find one at the price range I mentioned, but I've been patient for good things before.
Last year, regular cost about $1.20 in my area and premium was $1.50. That means that premium costs 125% of regular. Now in my area, regular is $1.60 and premium is $1.80. I don't know why the spread is less in cents but it also means the spread as a percentage is much less. Premium is now only 113% of the price of regular. Even if the spread were still $.30, the spread would be 119%. From that standpoint, premium actually makes more sense now than it did when prices were low.
Howdy...I'm shopping for either a new 4runner or a 99-00 LC; have a 98 4runner which has run well, but need a bigger vehicle. I do go off road. For less than the price of a 4runner LTD I can get a 2000 LC. Same engine in both. New 4runner still seems kind of small on the inside compared to LC. Anyone else in this situation?
Also, I read on this board that you could buy a used vehicle and get it delivered to you...Has anyone ever purchased a LC sight unseen? How did it work out? Did you get an inspection done by someone other than the seller? Thanks
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No way will an LC breeze around with a 2.5 ton trailer. You'll get there but..
No.
Or yes.
Depending on what you want to do.
IdahoDoug
Coupon code: rav4world in small case letters to get 15% off entire order. S/H included and no tax as they're located in Oregon. Contact guys name is Larry. Very nice guy.
There are a couple of other sources out there but S/H tends to be a bit on the pricey side.. I've had no problems with the above site.
https://www.luxuryredefined.com/faq.html
Q) What are the highlights of this event?
A) You will have the opportunity to drive a variety of luxury sport utility vehicles in exciting on-road and/or off-road conditions in natural, beautiful settings. We promise to deliver an experience that defines luxury. Lexus wants to make every moment count for our customers, and we have designed this program with that philosophy in mind. And with no salespeople present, you can relax and enjoy your time.
Technical specialists will be on hand to answer your vehicle questions on both Lexus Luxury Utility Vehicles and their top competitors.
Professional driving instructors will share driving tips with you and provide personal “coaching” on safe driving, off-road and performance driving techniques.
You can enjoy time with your entire family, as a children’s activity area will be provided with games and attractions.
You will enjoy light refreshments and take away a special parting gift. It’s just our way of saying “thank you for being our guest.”
One final note here is that if you do this, remember to keep the LC out of overdrive when towing. Even though the LC has a transmission cooler, you can overheat the tranny if you use overdrive.
Matt Spence
Thanks!
I just recently purchased a '96 LX450 which is exactly the same as the LC with a few added dudas.
My e-mail is:
wawrzyng@hotmail.com
I really like mine but there are some things to check out. E-mail me for more info.
Why don't you share with the rest of us and just write it here?
tidester, host
--brakes can be a problem
--rear main seal leaks??
--lack of drink holders
--front leg room
Concerning the price of $18.9, I also think that is a bit on the high side.
Above everything else, just be careful.
Both are in great condition. Thanks
I am of the opinion that the same 4.7 engine, with slightly different tuning, powers the Sequoia vs. Land Cruiser, thus the different gas recommendations, horsepowers, timing, etc...
BTW: At the Chicago auto show the toyota rep said a new engine will be introduced in 2005.
Given my warranty expires at 36k miles, I want to bring it in to the dealer for one final once over prior to the warranty expiring.
Any suggestions on what I should ask them to look at given your experiences?
Thanks Brian
I read somewhere that for a 400 hp Vette on premium gas there can be up to a difference of 30 hp. While I have not put my Landcruiser on the dyno
Assuming I can get the LC closer to $45, what should I do? Is 1 year old LC worth the extra 5K over the new 4Runner?
The 4runner is smaller but has the 5 speed auto tranny.
Also, 4runners are a dime a dozen. LC's are a little more rare.
I would get the LC.
fj100
Toyota has a technical service bulletin dated October 6 ,2000 that explains how to disable the DRL. Your best bet is get in contact with LIGHTSOUT.ORG
If you want send me your E-mail address I I'll give you more info or do a GOOGLE in the search type drl the full name . Good luck , hopes this help . Thank you
I doubt I would put myself in that same situation, but I would not mind having some snow chains in the back (just in case). Has anyone tried putting snow chains on their Land Cruiser?
In wet heavy snow (like Denver just got), chains will not help once you get high centered. In light powder though I've plowed through snow up to the headlights with two sets of chains.
Personally, if I lived in anyplace that gets snow every winter I'd buy a set of snow tires instead.
HiC
However, in some engine designs spark timing is deliberately retarded during critical operation to avoid knock. Retarding ignition timing by two degrees will reduce octane requirement by about one number. This would explain the octane differences of two engines with identical compression ratios. Both the basic setting of the spark timing and the operation of the automatic spark advance mechanisms are important in controlling knock.
In some computer-controlled engines, the spark timing can only be changed by replacing modules in the computer. If they are equipped with knock sensors (like the Toyota/Lexus 4.7), these computer-controlled engines have the ability to retard the ignition temporarily when a sensor detects knock. This temporarily reduces the octane requirement and may also temporarily reduce vehicle performance.
Aside from trying for as low mileage as is feasible, what other things would you warn/suggest?
- In what years have body styles changed significantly?
- Any years with big problems to watch for?
- How horribly old would, say, a '94 look?
I'd like to go for an older, top-of-the-line LandCruiser that's been relatively pampered. May take me awhile to find one at the price range I mentioned, but I've been patient for good things before.
Thanks.
Thanks for the info. Please tell me why Toyota recommend chains only in the rear? Is this typical with all Toyotas with 4WD?
Also, I read on this board that you could buy a used vehicle and get it delivered to you...Has anyone ever purchased a LC sight unseen? How did it work out? Did you get an inspection done by someone other than the seller? Thanks