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Volkswagen Passat CC Lease Questions

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  • Anything new for December? Looking at 36 month lease 12K/year CC Sport. I was told there is a 5000 dealer incentive until January 1.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494
    That's the 2013 model.... the numbers are the same as last month...
    $5000 lease cash... .00040 MF and 44% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr lease

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  • Are there any deals on the 2014 CC Model? Thanks for your help!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494
    2014 CC Sport 36mo, 15K/yr lease
    .00068 MF and 52% residual
    $1500 lease cash

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  • Hello, I was just wondering if the lease numbers for a 2014 CC Sport 15k/yr that came out today changed from last month? Thanks.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @dokedoke said:
    Hello, I was just wondering if the lease numbers for a 2014 CC Sport 15k/yr that came out today changed from last month? Thanks.

    .00042 MF and 50% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr lease. $4000 lease cash.

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  • lepialepia Posts: 45

    Hello,
    Would someone be so kind to provide the MF and Re value of a 2014 CC Executive, 36 months, 10K/YR. I will be coming out of a CC lease in 60 days and hope I can get out and move into a new lease. Thanks in advance,

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @lepia said:
    Hello,
    Would someone be so kind to provide the MF and Re value of a 2014 CC Executive, 36 months, 10K/YR. I will be coming out of a CC lease in 60 days and hope I can get out and move into a new lease. Thanks in advance,

    .00061 MF and 53% residual. $3000 lease cash.

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  • @[email protected] said:
    .00042 MF and 50% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr lease. $4000 lease cash.

    I keep getting some ridiculous numbers from the dealer. The first payment they came back at was over $575!! They are hiding money somewhere but I couldnt tell from looking at the math they showed me. I am trading in a lease and told them I want payoff of the 2012 Passat and the 2014 CC Sport for Under 30k agreed upon price. If I got the car for 29,900 with the numbers you showed me, my payments should be way less, even with 0 down from what I see.

  • 2yy4u2yy4u Posts: 7

    I am considering the 2014 CC R-line. What should I expect for a 36 months lease and 12K miles per year? Thanks

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @2yy4u said:
    I am considering the 2014 CC R-line. What should I expect for a 36 months lease and 12K miles per year? Thanks

    .00037 MF and 51% residual. $4250 lease cash.

    Come back with an MSRP of a unit you are interested in, and we'll work up a proposed lease payment.

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  • singsingsingsing Posts: 5

    Money factor and residual on a 2014 CC Sport with automatic. 10k/year and 7k/year mileage. $33,595 MSRP. Thank you.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @singsing said:
    Money factor and residual on a 2014 CC Sport with automatic. 10k/year and 7k/year mileage. $33,595 MSRP. Thank you.

    .00037 MF and 52% residual for 36mo, 10K/yr. $4250 lease cash.

    I don't think that VW offers a lower mileage allowance than 10K/yr.

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  • Are the new numbers out for April 2014? Looking at MF and Residual Value for 2014 VW CC RLine with Manual Transmission. 36 months / 12K per year mileage. thanks !

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @thebigtuna1979 said:
    Are the new numbers out for April 2014? Looking at MF and Residual Value for 2014 VW CC RLine with Manual Transmission. 36 months / 12K per year mileage. thanks !

    .00037 and 51%. Also $4250 lease cash available.

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  • benhurrmbenhurrm Posts: 3

    I got a lease offer like this: 2014 CC sport PZEV 6AT, 36 month, 10000 mile/year, 0 downpay, 367 + tax monthly pay. Money factor is 0.00037 and residual is 51%. Is it a good deal?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @benhurrm said:
    I got a lease offer like this: 2014 CC sport PZEV 6AT, 36 month, 10000 mile/year, 0 downpay, 367 + tax monthly pay. Money factor is 0.00037 and residual is 51%. Is it a good deal?

    What is the MSRP and selling price?

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  • benhurrmbenhurrm Posts: 3

    msrp 35530, sell price 29670

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @benhurrm said:
    msrp 35530, sell price 29670

    Looks like the $4250 of lease cash is reflected in your selling price.

    However, when I plug in the rest of your numbers (MF and residual) I get a pre-tax payment of around $339. With 9% tax, the total payment comes to $369.

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  • benhurrmbenhurrm Posts: 3

    so you mean the sell price should be 10000 off msrp?

  • Dealer gave me the following deal on a 2014 VW CC R-Line with 6 speed Manual Transmission (36 months / 12K Per year)

    MSRP $34,960.00
    Discount $6,026.00
    Adjusted Price: $28,934.00
    Doc Fee $75.00
    Tax: $1009.42 (tax rate is 8.375%)
    Net Price: $30,205.92

    With only first month and DMV out of pocket ($553) monthly payment is $378.00 (for 35 months) which is inclusive of tax. Good deal?

    Seems too high for, espcecially that there is $4,250 in dealer cash. There were members back in Oct who leased the CC with lightening package for $270 all inclusive. (given there was $5K in dealer cash at the time)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @benhurrm said:
    so you mean the sell price should be 10000 off msrp?

    I don't think that is what @Michaell is saying, at all. He says that your selling price seems to reflect the $4250 lease cash, already.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @thebigtuna1979 said:
    Dealer gave me the following deal on a 2014 VW CC R-Line with 6 speed Manual Transmission (36 months / 12K Per year)

    MSRP $34,960.00
    Discount $6,026.00
    Adjusted Price: $28,934.00
    Doc Fee $75.00
    Tax: $1009.42 (tax rate is 8.375%)
    Net Price: $30,205.92

    With only first month and DMV out of pocket ($553) monthly payment is $378.00 (for 35 months) which is inclusive of tax. Good deal?

    Seems too high for, espcecially that there is $4,250 in dealer cash. There were members back in Oct who leased the CC with lightening package for $270 all inclusive. (given there was $5K in dealer cash at the time)

    It seems those deals back in October were on the 2013 model. A friend of mine leased a 2013 CC with stick in January, for 36mo, 15K/yr, and his payment was $325/mo, with only 1st payment due at signing... (a lower MSRP than your example, though).

    That payment looks pretty good on a 2014 model.. Add in the $595 for acquisition fee, and I get $378/mo., as well.. (.00037 MF and 51% residual)

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  • Thanks for the reply kyfdx, but even though that was on a 2013 model, there is a big difference from $270 to $378 ($108 a month diff). That model was $1K cheaper in MSRP (Sport with Lighting Package), but the residual back then was 47% (given there was $5K in incentives) and the residual now is 51% with $4,250 in incentives. Maybe fireghter and pebbles are failing to disclose some numbers. Hopefully, they could chime in. if thats the case, and these numbers are accurate, I will look at BMW, Acura and Audi.

  • ebmatebmat Posts: 10
    edited April 2014
    Hi and thanks for this great forum.
    I'm looking to lease a 2014 R-Line with automatic transmission. Is the 4,250 incentive a dealer contribution or a VW rebate? The dealer that I spoke to acted as if he was the one giving me the discount.
    Also, I see that there are two different prices for the 2014 CC. The base MSRP for the R-Line 6 speed AM with prod. End 1/14 is 34,125 and there is another MSRP of 34,830. What is the difference between these two cars other than the price?

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @ebmat said:
    Hi and thanks for this great forum.
    I'm looking to lease a 2014 R-Line with automatic transmission. Is the 4,250 incentive a dealer contribution or a VW rebate? The dealer that I spoke to acted as if he was the one giving me the discount.
    Also, I see that there are two different prices for the 2014 CC. The base MSRP for the R-Line 6 speed AM with prod. End 1/14 is 34,125 and there is another MSRP of 34,830. What is the difference between these two cars other than the price?

    Thanks

    The $4250 is a manufacturer-to-dealer incentive. So, technically, the dealer is giving you the discount, as the selling price is fully negotiable. If you didn't know about the $4250, it would look extremely generous, though.. :)

    I'm not certain about your pricing question, but January is prime-time for manufacturers to institute price increases. I would guess that is the only difference between the two.

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  • ebmatebmat Posts: 10

    It's good to know that the 4,250 comes from the manufacturer. The dealer didn't want to reduce any more. In fact, the purchase was 32000 and the MSRP was 36,165 (not even the full 4,250 incentive). 625 acquisition fee, 493 doc fee, 310 DMV and somehow the adjusted cap cost jumped to 34,200. The monthly payments were a whopping 457/mo (0.00037 money factor and 0.51 residual). We just got up and left.

    My pricing question has to do with the 2014 cc with production date 1/14. While looking up the Emund's TMV prices, I saw that The cc with production date 1/14 has a slightly lower price than the one produced 9/13. I just wanted to know if the price difference had to do with additional features as there is one version of the 2014 that doesn't have backup camera. The one that I saw was had no backup camera, 9/13 prod. date, and the MSRP on that one is still higher..... Are you able to clarify that?

    Thanks

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @ebmat said:
    It's good to know that the 4,250 comes from the manufacturer. The dealer didn't want to reduce any more. In fact, the purchase was 32000 and the MSRP was 36,165 (not even the full 4,250 incentive). 625 acquisition fee, 493 doc fee, 310 DMV and somehow the adjusted cap cost jumped to 34,200. The monthly payments were a whopping 457/mo (0.00037 money factor and 0.51 residual). We just got up and left.

    My pricing question has to do with the 2014 cc with production date 1/14. While looking up the Emund's TMV prices, I saw that The cc with production date 1/14 has a slightly lower price than the one produced 9/13. I just wanted to know if the price difference had to do with additional features as there is one version of the 2014 that doesn't have backup camera. The one that I saw was had no backup camera, 9/13 prod. date, and the MSRP on that one is still higher..... Are you able to clarify that?

    Thanks

    I'm sorry.. but, I don't know if there are any equipment differences. Given the timing (January), and the amount (about 2%), it looks like your typical mid-year price increase.

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  • ebmatebmat Posts: 10
    Ok i understand now. The pricing difference was a bit confusing.

    I would like to lease the cc R-Line with automatic transmission, MSRP 36,165, and I'm looking to pay the taxes and acquisition upfront as I don't want to pay interest on the taxes. Is 300/mo. Realistic for this model?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @ebmat said:
    Ok i understand now. The pricing difference was a bit confusing.

    I would like to lease the cc R-Line with automatic transmission, MSRP 36,165, and I'm looking to pay the taxes and acquisition upfront as I don't want to pay interest on the taxes. Is 300/mo. Realistic for this model?

    Let's assume $1500 off MSRP plus the $4250 incentive.. For a selling price of $30,415.

    .00037 MF and 51% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. ($1500 off is approx. invoice price).

    Payment = $350/mo.

    So... $300 is probably not realistic, even with taxes and fees upfront.

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  • ebmatebmat Posts: 10
    edited April 2014

    350 sounds better than 457. How much should i expect to pay for acquisition fee? Dealer was asking for 625. Is that negotiable? He also wanted 493 for documentation fee. 493 seems excessive to me.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @ebmat said:
    350 sounds better than 457. How much should i expect to pay for acquisition fee? Dealer was asking for 625. Is that negotiable? He also wanted 493 for documentation fee. 493 seems excessive to me.

    $625 is the base acquisition fee that goes to VCI. If $493 is just a dealer fee, then that sounds high, but some states have pretty hefty title/license fees (like CA or NJ). It all depends on where that $493 is going.

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  • ebmatebmat Posts: 10
    edited April 2014
    $493 was a dealer doc. fee. NY DMV fee was a separate charge, $310. I have seen a $75 dealer doc fee in previous posts. I guess this varies by dealer.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @ebmat said:
    $493 was a dealer doc. fee. NY DMV fee was a separate charge, $310. I have seen a $75 dealer doc fee in previous posts. I guess this varies by dealer.

    It also varies by state .. it's my understanding that NY caps the dealer fee at $75 or $80, whereas in states like Florida or Colorado the dealer fees can be as high as $699.

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  • ebmatebmat Posts: 10
    edited May 2014

    Is there any information available on this month's numbers for 12k miles and 12k for 36 months? I saw a dealer contribution of 5,261 at the vw website.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @ebmat said:
    Is there any information available on this month's numbers for 12k miles and 12k for 36 months? I saw a dealer contribution of 5,261 at the vw website.

    Still waiting for the MAy numbers from VW

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  • Hi, any update on the May Numbers? looks for MF and residual on 2014 VW CC R-Line with 6 speed manual. 12K 36 months. Lease cash this month is $4,500 im hearing?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @thebigtuna1979 said:
    Hi, any update on the May Numbers? looks for MF and residual on 2014 VW CC R-Line with 6 speed manual. 12K 36 months. Lease cash this month is $4,500 im hearing?

    Still waiting for the May numbers from VW ... sorry.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 136,494

    @thebigtuna1979 said:
    Hi, any update on the May Numbers? looks for MF and residual on 2014 VW CC R-Line with 6 speed manual. 12K 36 months. Lease cash this month is $4,500 im hearing?

    .00032 MF and 50% residual. $4500 lease cash.

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  • Any updated numbers for this month?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @s1b12 said:
    Any updated numbers for this month?

    yes -- what trim level, lease term and miles per year?

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  • 2014 CC R-Line (Auto)
    36 or whatever is best.
    12K

    Thank you.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593

    @s1b12 said:
    2014 CC R-Line (Auto)
    36 or whatever is best.
    12K

    Thank you.

    .00059 MF and 49% for 36/15. $4250 lease cash.

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  • Thank you @Michaell‌

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 5,728
    This car is such a steal on a lease. Better MF and residual than when I leased a year ago and still nearly the same lease cash. I would be shocked if someone couldn't negotiate a sale price well south of invoice before applying the lease cash...
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  • @28firefighter‌ Do you think $29k buying and $4250 lease cash is possible?
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 5,728
    I don't know what invoice is on that car. I would shoot for 1500 back of invoice sale price, less the 4250 cash back.

    The CCs tend to end up as lot ornaments, so worst they say is no.
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  • Hello!

    Can you tell me current October 14 Lease numbers for CC Sport and Exec.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 129,593
    mikep14 said:

    Hello!

    Can you tell me current October 14 Lease numbers for CC Sport and Exec.

    Thanks!

    2014 - .00008 for and $3500 lease cash for Sport, .00030 and $2500 lease cash for Exec. 49% residual for 36/15 on both.

    2015 - .00031 and $2250 lease cash for Sport, .00023 and $750 lease cash for Exec. 51% residual for 36/15 on both.

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  • Good afternoon can you tell me if my calculations are correct... Seems a little too good to be true.

    2014 CC Sport 36 Month Lease 12k/year

    MSRP: $34,930
    Negotiated price (Truecar.com): $28,283
    VW Lease Cash: $3500
    Money Down:$1000
    Residual Value: $17,814
    MF:0.00008
    Pre Tax Monthly Payment: $169.13
    NJ Tax 7%: $11.84
    Total Monthly Payment: $180.97

    I just don't think the dealer will honor the lease cash with the true car price being that low. What do you think? Trying to get a honest opinion before going to the dealer. Thanks for the help.
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