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If you want better grade interior materials - then move up to the Azera (well, until the next gen Azera gets released).
The interior of the Limited trim of the Sonata has been considered by auto reviewers to be at or near the top of the mainstream mid-size segment.
And btw, one could very well say similar things for the CC, in comparison to the Mercedes that it apes, the CLS.
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For your info there are authors on this and other Forums that work for other Manufacturers and knock their competitors while sounding like ordinary consumers.
Maybe you weren't aware of this before you attacked my post.
If your wife uses the car without you and your phone inside, it will pick up her calls.
Can anyone confirm this is how it works with the 2011 Sonata? As I said before I'm new to bluetooth. I figured or at least hoped if the two phones were paired with the system it would automatically answer the phone that was ringing.
I'm down to 2 colors?I'm hopefully going to buy my car end of month or first week of June?I'm looking at the Radiant Silver,Indigo Blue.I love the Pearl White but the ewaler I'm speaking with told me it's a long wait and $200 more,I really want a car now ?not 2 or 3 months.Hyundai should know all of this and produce more colors loke more White colors with black.I need help,someone wrote a post on Silver and yes I do think it's beautiful,but White is so nice?what about Indigo Blue,the Pacific Blue seems so dark almost Black it takes the beauty away?
Have you seen the indigo blue in person? Don't go by the brochure photos - the indigo is a flaming or electric blue. Very bold and feminine (not that there's anything wrong with that)
Also, I believe that the idea of Bluetooth-In-Car system is to provide hand-free phone conversation to a driver while driving. Passengers can pick up their phones since they are riding, not driving.
I just got my Black Plum Limited with the camel interior on 4/22. They just started making the camel leather about April 1st. They are hard to get,but they are now making them. Have your dealer call Mike Perkins in N.J. He is the distribution manager and ask him to send what you want.That is how I got mine so fast.
Also, I believe that the idea of Bluetooth-In-Car system is to provide hand-free phone conversation to a driver while driving. Passengers can pick up their phones since they are riding, not driving.
Thanks for confirming. It makes sense.
Takes into account Performance,Style,Handling vs Price.
The cars were Pacific Blue with Gray cloth/leather interior with the hard to find Sunroof/Navigation Pkg and Indigo Blue/Gray without the nav/sunroof pkg.
Exterior: Beautiful, from the color to the 18 inch wheels the Sonata in SE trim in Pacific Blue Pearl looks excellent. I like how the color changes depending on the lighting. We've gotten rain off and on all day in my area (Upstate, SC) so depending on the angle and where the car was parked it looked green sometimes and at other times it looked dark blue. In direct sunlight its a nice dark blue-green. It's my favorite of all the colors for the new Sonata...Harbor Gray is a close second, though I'm eager to see how the Limited Trim will look in Plum and Camel. The 18s on the Sonata really bring out the look and make the car look more proportioned IMO. The 17s on the Limited are OK but smallish, I prefer the design of the 16s available on the GLS models over the Limited wheels honestly. On the website I figured I'd prefer the Indigo Blue Pearl to the Pacific Blue Pearl but in person I think the IBP is too bright of a blue for a car of the Sonata's class. Just not my cup of tea.
Interior: Navigation system is really nice, though I'll admit I've never really played with one. I like the push button start, the gauge cluster is real nice and futuristic and the center stack has a nice design. Some of the interior materials were hard to the touch and felt lower grade than the 2009-2010 model years but overall the interior is on par with the Accord and better than everything else in the class...this includes Fusion, Malibu, Camry, Mazda6 and Altima. Front room was pretty good (I'm only 5 feet 9) and rear seat room was good too, only problem I really had was getting in and out of the back seat. The sharp cutlines in the design of the roof can make ingress and egress a challenge for folks taller than myself. The Cloth seats inside the model I drove were "gray" and I wasn't particularly crazy about them but they weren't bad. The fabric felt a bit coarse though. I really wish the "Camel" interior was available on SE models because I prefer the Camel to any other interior color (especially WINE)
The Drive: I drove the IBP one first but it had a minor steering issue. Upon take off out of the dealership the car had this lumpy-thumpy feel to the steering. I told the salesmen about it and we took it back to the dealership. He could feel it himself. I'm thinking the tires were overinflated or something. I wanted to drive the Pacific Blue one first but the sales manager couldn't find the keys so we took the IBP one out instead. By the time we got back to the dealership the salesmen finally got the keys to the PBP one and I took it out for a spin. No steering/lumping problems with this model and the power was impressive. Really good take off in traffic, really good pick up power on the interstate and it felt more powerful than my 05 Altima. I'd driven a Silver Limited a month or two ago and the power of all three seemed to be comparable. I didn't expect a difference in power but I did notice that the SE model has sharper and firmer steering, which I really liked. The Limited Model I drove felt more Camryish that I had liked. I also felt a bit of torque steer in the SE model that I had not noticed in the Limited. The test drive was done on some patched up roads in the area and the Sonata handled them nicely. It definitely rides, handles and has better power than the 09-10 Sonata I4, which I felt was underpowered and sloppy handling-wise. The Sonata SE feels more Honda Accord than Toyota Camry this go round.
The Price:I've noticed Hyundai's steady increase in pricing over the last couple of years but I was a bit shocked at first when I saw the Price of the PB Sonata SE with the Sunroof/Nav. But when you look at the long list of standard and optional equipment on the car it didn't seem so bad. Navigation, push button start, iPod Cable, leather/cloth seats, power sunroof, 18 inch alloy wheels. I priced out similar competition. Malibu, Accord, Camry and Altima all come within a few Hundred bucks give or take for similar equipment (though none of them can be had with the Sonata SE's Navigation System or 18 inch wheels) I guess I'd just become accustomed to the Sonata undercutting them in price. Salesmen tried to get me to buy, but I'm holding out until the Turbo model (and the Kia Optima) are available...unless my jalopy 05 Altima falls apart (and it probably will.) Overall I came away impressed by the car, I got to spend a lot of time in various models while at Atlanta and NYC's autoshows and the car is really impressive for the class. From the power, feature content to the looks. It's a really nice car and if not for me wanting the Turbo model, I would have haggled on the price of the SE.
The Price of a Sonata SE with Nav/Sunroof pkg is comparable to the Price of a Sonata Limited without Nav. Too bad you can't get a Sonata SE with Sunroof and without Navigation. I noticed some GLS models have the Limited's 17 inch wheels. Hyundai is offering a "Spring Event Upgrade" pkg on GLS models with the PEP pkg that gives you the wheels, mats and I think the ipod cable for a whopping $100 MSRP! Not bad.Funny how just six years ago when I got my 05 Altima I would have never considered a Hyundai, now the new Sonata is at the top of my list and I won't even consider the current Altima. Honda, Nissan and Toyota need keep an eye on the new Sonata, it really shows how complacent all three manufacturers have become (especially Honda)
One thing, if you are a person who has trouble turning his / her head, you may want to be careful buying this car as one must really turn to look past the B pillar (between the front/back doors) blind spots on both sides. This is not a problem for me, but it does take a bit of getting used to because of the wide pillar, and the sloping contour of the roof line. The very small part of the back window is useless for seeing through, so one must be extra careful with lane changes.
Another plus, to me, is the braking. In my Toyota, just touch the pedal a little and you get instant forward forces, making it hard to do an almost imperceptible stop as I can in the Sonata. Touch it lightly, and it smoothly begins breaking and you can come to a complete stop and nearly not feel it. Not in my Toyota (Which I have loved for 11 years).
Small gripe: The detente on the turn signal when you just want to change lanes should be just a bit stiffer, as much pressure at all puts it into full turn mode. I still have not been able to lightly hit it for the 3 flash lane change every time, and dislike having to then return the lever to off. But as I said, small gripe.
I'm beginning to get used to the electric steering, which feels like easy manual steering, not like power steering I've had in the last 3 cars. I believe I like it better now as it feels as though I have better control. At first, just the slightest movement of my hands made it move, which was at first disconcerting, but doesn't happen anymore as I've accustomed myself to it.
Since I'm past the 600 mile "break in" period recommended in the owner manual, I tried some hard turns, and coming off the expressway on a curved exit, I notice there is little to no sway, and going over dips in the road, there is no continuing bounce in the front and rear. Nice and tight.
I've never received so many compliments on any car I've had as I'm getting now. A few days ago, parked at a grocery store, even some teenagers (12-15) took the time to say, "I really like your car. It's really great looking." Co-workers have stated, "I never knew that Hun die made such great looking cars!"
Sorry it's so long, just wanted to pass on something that may help someone with his / her decision. Good hunting!
I have to agree!
I like (in order) Pearl White, Black, Silver, and Pacific Blue. Indigo Pearl is at the very bottom of the list. I sat in an Indigo on a sunny day. It shouts "hey look at me!", sort of like a warning color for a nuclear hazard or dangerous insect. Tastes vary, if you love it, buy it!
I have those in my 2 vehicles, and they're great. Very heavy, lay very flat, durable, and easy to clean.
I have their DigitalFit front liners in my 2010 Outlander and they work well and fit perfectly. Sometime soon I'll pick up the cargo liner. They aren't as cheap as what you got at Sam's Club but they are designed & made in the US (in a Chicago suburb; I picked mine up at their "factory showroom"). Their "Behind the Tech" walkthrough ( http://www.weathertech.com/behindtech/ ) says they OEM for all 3 German manufacturers.
The biggest challenge is turning left across a divided highway when you stop in the median.
When you test drive the car, make sure you do some lane changes, making sure to look over your left shoulder through the BACK window before beginning your change. There's a bit of a blind spot there, and like the other poster said, looking out the lower back window is a little blinder because of the sloping roof. I have compensated for it, but it's there in this, and many other new cars now.
That's not such a great price to me. I'd call them back and tell them you'll buy at a lower price. Is this the same car they said sold 2 weeks ago? What's up with that? If so, don't pay that price. Don't remember all the details of the car, but if that's plus the tax etc., I think it's a bit high.
I got my Black Plum Limited ( Loaded ) MSRP $28215. Clean deal for $25500.
How far do you have to drive? You have to add that cost.
Thank you for your help, I'll try this,I love the car but I hope I can handle those Blind Spots.
A lot of the remarks about blind spots indicate to me (my impression) the posters haven't adjusted either side-view mirror correctly.
I've never looked over my left shoulder to look out the rear window in 45 years of driving. I used to look over my right shoulder (and sometimes still do) before cars came with right side mirrors.
I think it was Edmunds that had a good feature on how to properly adjust side-view mirrors. Now, if only there were a way to see over those tall SUV's while backing out of a parking space or trying to enter traffic when a lane stops and "gives you a break" to make a left turn. I almost got hit today while making a left turn, with an SUV to my right blocking vision to my right. Good thing I was only "inching" out.
Black Plum only comes in camel ( leather ) interior in the Limited. Mine is a Limited ( comes with sunroof) with NAV,mats,and wheel locks. MSRP was $28200. I got it for $25500 plus taxes.
I'm sure you don't mean to, but this statement is almost insulting. I've been driving for over 45 years, and I sure know how to adjust a side view mirror correctly. I don't care what car you're in, the side mirror almost never shows all cars at some point, and a person who doesn't look over at the other lane before changing is asking for it.
Motorcycles are another vehicle that can disappear from view at a certain point in a side mirror, and they get popped quite often because someone relies only on the view from the mirror to change lanes.
Relying only on a side mirror to change lanes sure makes me hope I'm never on the road next to you.
My advice about the blind spots is for people who know one should visually check the lane before changing to protect theirs and others' lives.
mirrors spread further without really showing the side of your car, but this
is not foolproof, and my experience is that there still remains some blind
spot in the Sonata, and certain angles of driving cause the spot to be
greater. I think most people tend to have a lot of the side of their car in
the outside mirrors which makes it too hard to visualize the other lanes.
I was taught by some good drivers, and will continue to take their good
advice to also look (turn my head) before leaping. Motorcycles are the worst
for finding a blind spot you didn't think you had!
Good driving.
- Engine less noisy and bumpy, it's got power but it could be less noisy and smooth but once it's in the freeway is a sailing ship!
- More grip in the steering wheel, the upper part is kind of a flat surface so sometimes it forces me to be in a 10-2 position to get more grip in city driving (my bad habit is driving with the right hand at 12). The lower par of the wheel though has a good grip so they should just add the same to the top.
- Climate control knobs with no "notches"(?), I find hard to set my desire temp because it's either too cold or to warm because of the notch that jumps between both levels, it should be smooth and with a digital indicator just like the exterior temp (switchable as the Mazda 5).
- Speaker covers in the dash: loose them, they are cheap looking, like bad plastic, they can use nicer like-net covers.
I'm sure those small changes wouldn't hurt too much in the manufacturing price but after all as I said they are only suggestions. As for the rest I'm more than happy, great gas mileage, breaking, comfort, accessories, style, etc.
another home run by a hyundai!