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  • aaron300zaaron300z Posts: 19
    Just take your car to the dealer and they would install a new ABS control unit. My friend got his ABS control unit replaced when he went for an oil change. It was a surprise for him because he didn't know about it. He got the letter a few days later.

    His car is running perfect !!
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    The drive by wire lag is NOT that bad....

    If your MAF is bad, reading the wrong amount of airflow, it will cause a LOT of hesitation and these other things you are experiencing. Do you notice a power loss?

    You can get a chip to help the drive by wire lag, and I would recommend GIAC

    You need to run a VAG scan on the car to see if you threw any DTC faults.

    The MAF sensor failure is a COMMON problem with the GTIs... I'm on my second one. :D

    - Anthony

    P.S. - Do a search in the Golf IV/Jetta IV forum for MAF failure and you'll have 100000 posts to read through. Also, post a new topic if you wish, but I think you'll get the same response as I just gave you.
  • I called my dealer today for appt they could not get me in till 4/29!! Worst part was they said I needed to leave car for 6 hrs. I said the letter mentioned only 1.5 hrs but he said they got to bleed the brakes and it more involved?? I called another dealer and he taking me tomorrow and said I can wait for the car. The first dealer has no loaner cars either so I would have to wait around for 6 hrs (they said I could rent a car at Enterprise next door) thanks a lot
  • nixomosenixomose Posts: 95
    Thanks for the tip. I'll go look around.
    It's been doing this since the day I bought it, or at least as long as I can remember. Maybe I got a lemon and don't know it, but between the stock suspension (squals around the slightest turns), the broken rear wiper, the climatronic piece of [non-permissible content removed] (this works as designed and is the MOST ANNOYING thing, gimme my three knobs please) and the hesitation, and the slow-let-off-the-gas 'feature', it's just an un-fun car to drive. Certainly not characteristic of my mk2 GTIs. Which I really really miss.
  • I am in the market for a GTI, and found a used 01 GTI GLX (VR6) with 18.5K miles, leather interior, red exterior, all that jazz. Car is supposed to be in excellent condition. Seller is asking 18,500... TMV says $16.5 or so, so I am wondering what I should offer if this is in good condition.

    Also, is there a reason NOT to get a '01, and opt to get a new '02?

    Tony in Philly
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Have you check Edmunds' Incentives and Rebates section? VW is currently offering some very low interest rates on their 2002 GTI models. You may want to compare the cost of the 2002 vs 2001 after figuring in the different interest rates. Look for a direct link to Edmunds' loan calculator in their Advice section.

    One other thing to consider is that VW made some changes to their factory warranty this year. The 2002 bumber-to-bumper warranty and roadside service is now 4 yr/50k miles. Compare that with the 24m/24k warranty on the 2001 models. Others here may have more to add. Good luck, and please keep us posted on your purchase.

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  • rickroverrickrover Posts: 602
    I love my VW's - dyed in the wool VW fanatic. But VW does test your patience at times. Did you check that parts4vw website? They seem to have everything for VW's.
  • They pushed the horsepower in the V6 engine up to about 201 horses for this year too. Thing is, if you're willing to pay 18.5k for an 01 with a 174 horse V6, you could get an 02 Turbo 1.8 I4 with 180 horses brand new for maybe about 19.5k, and you'll get the full warranty...that's the MSRP from Volkswagen's website, by the way, priced with no options...base 1.8T model with leather seats. I'd take a good hard look at that before buying a year old model....the reason why he's probably trying to sell it (especially now, and for that much) is so he can use the money to buy a new one with the longer warranty and higher horsepower.

    So, the short answer is, there's a LOT of reasons to just get an 02 instead of settling for an 01...especially at that price....I wouldn't even pay the Edmunds TMV for an 01 GTI...they just made so many changes to bring it into 02 that the 01s should take a BIG price hit to compete...and they haven't yet. I personally wouldn't pay more than 14k for an 01 considering how cheap the 02s are and how much I'd be giving up as far as warranty and horsepower.

    Wait...that wasn't short. Ok, the question was "is there a reason NOT to get a '01, and opt to get a new '02?" The answer is "Yes, several of them." :)
  • stranacstranac Posts: 1
  • Thanks for the advice! I went to the dealer last night with my fiancee, and they quoted us the following (which I think might be high):

    '02 GTI, 1.8T; Leather interior; luxury package; destination and NE emissions.
    Total price -- 21,200. That is after a "$500 discount" because of the company my fiance works for... What do you guys think? W/ taxes, tags & license it is like 22.6 or something.

    Also, I want the Green Rave with a leather interior, and it seems like all the ones in the area are the trendy silver color...
  • I am in a market for a new GTI 1.8T 2002 model. But my friend told me that the 2003 model will be out in September of this year. Does anyone know if there are any reason to hold out until the 1.8T 03 model? I hope the upcoming model is within the same price range as the 02 model.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Is that with an automatic or manual transmission? Also, since pricing differs from region to region, I think it would be helpful if you let people know what area you will be making your purchase in. Good luck.

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  • I am in the burbs of Philly. I am going to a dealer tonight that has the green rave w/ leather and luxury package. Manual tranny, 1.8T. I think they are asking $21,875. TMV from edmunds in my area is $20,550 with those options, invoice is $19,764. I am wondering how much to try to negiotiate for...

    Thanks again!
  • Does anyone know if the 2002 model still has the windows drop down and other problems older user had?
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    That's about what they are going for. They won't discount much because of the high demand.

    The 02 VR6 201HP isn't out yet... only the 12v 174 HP is. The 24v should hit in about a month...
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    If there are a number of GTI's available in your area, then you have a little bargaining leverage, imo. Personally speaking, I would have no qualms offering well below Edmunds' TMV and seeing where the dealer goes from there. Of course that's just my own personal style.

    One thing to consider with Edmunds' TMV is that it's an average price over a given period of time; it's not the highest price paid, but it's also not the lowest. The exact number will boil down to your own negotiating skills. Speaking of which, Edmunds' has a number of buying articles that you may to check out. To start, here's Negotiating 101. I also recommend "10 Steps to Buying A New Car" which can be found in their Advice/Buying section. Hope this is helpful.

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  • Have you tried going through someone like I've bought two vehicles using them and don't plan on buying a car any other way again, if I can help it. They put you in touch with a fleet manager or internet sales manager. The guy opened up the books and showed me what the car cost and then told me he wanted to make $400 on the deal. The good news, he was fully authorized to make any deal, so there was none of the "I'll go run this by my manager" B.S..

    It doesn't cost anything to check it out.
  • seguyseguy Posts: 133
    owner of a 1.8T silver w/ gray leather GTI, lux&leather pkg MSRP $21,600. Bought mine from a large denver area dealer for $19950 + tax out the door(0.9% for 24 mon through VW), minus the $13,700 trade-in for my 99 accord. The honda was a great car, but really missed shifting my own gears. So far I love the car, and I'm sure I'll love it even more after 2,000 miles, when i'll push it more. I'm thinking that it'll require a tad more maintenance than my honda, but not much more. I was looking through the manual and couldn't see a drain interval for the coolant? Does it need to be changed ever?(per VW) and how about the Tranny fluid?? Also, where is a good place to buy OEM filters and accessories on the web?? Thanks
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    and thanks for sharing the details.

    Coolant interval & accessories: You may also want to post your questions in the Accessories and Maintenance discussions in our VW Owner's Club. Also, while you're there, please take a moment to say hello in our VW Owners - Meet the Members discussion. Use your copy/paste so you don't have to re-write your message. We look forward to hearing more about your GTI experience. Happy motoring!

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  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    Is a lifetime synthetic fluid, most people never need to change it.

    I however am getting a whole new tranny on my 01 GTI VR6 because well... I blew up my differential. :D

    As for OEM parts, check out . Mike runs that company and his customer service and prices are amazing... great guy and I try to buy most of my stuff from him.

    Anyways.... here is a picture of my car, just cause I took this last week and I feel like posting it. :)


    - Anthony

  • I know they're redesigning the Golf platform, though I don't know how long it will take for the redesign to get to the US. Found this Italian website that had some stuff on it, but there's no date on it:

    From what little I could manage to get out of it, the Golf platform might get Audi's Multitronic tranny and a shot at 4Motion...wondering if anyone has heard anything further? TO be truthful, I like the look of the current one better, but if next year I can get a GTI with a Multitronic CVT and/or 4Motion, I might consider waiting, even though the current GTIs will proably be pretty cheap.

    I'm thinking WAY in the future here, I know, but I like to think ahead and plan things out.

  • nixomosenixomose Posts: 95
    I highly HIGHLY Highly recommend
    Everything you want to know about buying a car. I save $2000+ off msrp on a subaru a few weeks ago. Take the time, read the 7 chapters and save yourself some real money.
  • Thanks for the tips. I went to the website and it's awesome. After looking for a short while, I got my 5-spd 2002 GTI 1.8T with luxury package for only $19600. That price includes tax, tags, and everything else. I couldn't be happier.
    Since it's my first time driving a 5-spd, I still need to get the hang of things, but overall I love it.
  • aloalo Posts: 35
    Does the 1.8T engine require premium gas? Anybody tried using reqular (87 Octane)?
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    Yes, it requires premium gas for maximum performance.

    You can use regular, at the cost of performance (it has knock sensors, when when knock is detected, the timing is retarded).
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    ...for the engine if it keeps having to retard the timing.

    Save your engine, use premium gas... it will save you money in the long run.
  • fleisigfleisig Posts: 1
    does anyone have a good idea when the 200 hp v6 is due. any word on pricing? will it increase?
    if I can't wait what is the better choice v6/174 or 1.8
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    ...will be available in the GTI towards the mid/end of summer. I can't wait!

    It's currently in the Jetta... just very limited.
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Posts: 1,722
    would find more experts (or at least people acting like them ;-) over on

    Better chance of finding the answer you're seeking.
  • nixomosenixomose Posts: 95
    I shall check this out.
    I guess vwvortex is the center of the vwuniverse. I'll take note of that.
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