I have a recurring problem. Sometimes after startup, with the NAV on, I hit the "AUDIO" button to switch to that screen. It beeps but the screen doesn't switch. I just keeps a version of the navigation map. The only way to fix it is to shut down the car to reboot the system. Any idea what that is? I'm not sure, but it seems to be related to hitting the audio button soon after the "OK" screen. (but not always)
I want the NAV from the things I've read here, but I'm need to sell the wife on the features for the hefty premium. Could you give me..like the top 5 uses/reasons you like the NAV feature?
5. You can earn extra money as a taxi service and know that you'll always be able to find your destination.
4. Listening to the computer voice giving the directions is SOOOOOOO much more soothing than your significant other screaming that you just missed your exit.
3. It's a really neat way to hide your CD-changer!
2. No one can ever actually fold up a map once it is opened. Why invite the headache?
I think it is hard to make a solid case for NAV unless you tend to travel a lot to places you haven't been. We have found it useful when heading to a museum somewhere and we are not sure exactly where it is, but then, we could have looked it up on the Internet. A couple times we used it to select a nearby restaurant in which to eat (has those Zagat reviews). I suppose there are better uses, but we have not yet taken it on vacation or a trip. The back-up camera rocks, though, and it appears on the NAVI screen.
Well - I wanted the NAV but figured that I would not use it much - five weeks later and WRONG!! - it rocks. Case in point. My wife and daughter needed to go to a theatrical performance +- 75 miles away. I easily found the venue in the Navi and followed the directions to a tee. When I dropped them off, my wife said to feed my other kid. Unfamiliar with the area, and my kid indecisive about what to eat, I pulled up restaurants and immediately got a "yes" for one +- 1 mile away. The Navi told me how to get there. Next, with only a few bucks left and needing to go back to the venue and wait for the event to be over (fee to park), I pulled up "banks" and found a no-fee ATM about a mile from the restaurant. Navi got me to the bank without incident, hit the "previous destinations" button as now I was totally turned around, and the Navi got me back to the venue without incident. We pulled into the parking structure, backed into a spot, popped To Fast To Furious into the DVD, put the wireless head phones on, reclined the seats, and had a great time. So, I guess I feel good about getting the Navi package afterall. The XM radio is pretty cool, too.
Yep, the NAVI can be handy. The funniest use for us so far:
Last weekend my wife and a friend of hers went to a party at another woman's house, about 10 miles from our home. Turns out that when they left, they became turned around in that woman's neighborhood and could not find their way out. So my wife hits the "talk" button on the NAVI and says, "Go home." And the NAVI, which I programmed, shows them the way out and home. I never would have guessed THAT particular use.
The NAV models are the only ones that come with an XM radio installed (as opposed to prewired). Check out their website for their offerings for $10/month. (first 3 months free trial) Strictly personal taste, of course, but I definitely intend to buy a receiver for my home audio system. I'm impressed; my wife, who wanted XM, is disappointed. Rear passengers can also listen to XM in rear entertainment headphones, while front passengers listen to another program.
NAV has voice activation for radio, climate control, and rear entertainment system.
Very easy to manipulate radio--especially XM--from easy-to-read touchscreen.
Does save lots of time from map reading.
Can program in all favorite destinations--home, work, airports, etc.--and access everything by voice.
Has Zagat's 2004 numerical ratings and tons of restaurant listings, supermarkets, ATMs, attractions, etc. (Listings aren't perfect--call to double check). Can say, for example, "nearest Italian restaurants" and a list will appear.
has voice prompts if you want them-- mininum, maximum, somewhere in between or none at all--automatically lowers volume on radio when voice is speaking -- can choose male or female.
Everything I've seen leads me to conclude Honda's system is better in many ways. The most significant to me are that the screen is bigger; it takes voice commands right out of the box; and it can be used while the vehicle is in motion.
The main advantage, in my opinion, is that its a lot easier to find an Odyssey with NAV than a Sienna with NAV. Just look at all those confusing option packages.
Anyone receive their v2.20? Mine shipped on Wednesday and will be here Monday (2/28). I'm upgrading from v2.03. My 2000 Odyssey came with v1.97, which I upgraded to v2.03 (moved to Albuquerque, which was not included in v1.97). The reason for this most recent upgrade is the addition of unverified roads (not part of v2.03), plus the new & expanded POI.
Are there any other enhancements that I might expect to see? Do they actually upgrade the software/firmware in any way?
I am looking for a response to msg #473 as I am going to upgrade my GPS version as well. I have a 2000 Odyssey purchased used in 2002. I have never checked specs on distibutor or manufacturer of GPS system. I surmise from forums it is Alpine? I will check my owners manual and see what it has. Thought the upgade price was a bit steep ~$200. Is no one making compatible less priced CDs. I mean really, what does it take to burn a new CD(time and cost of materials) and why the 3 weeks delay in getting a new one. Are they being made on someones laptop after their day job. Just wondering?
It's made by Alpine. While I don't know the answer for sure, I don't see how any software could be added to it (but, then again, I don't know jack about such stuff). Also, it's hard to see what else could be added to it as it seems incredibly comprehensive as is.
Hello,I ran into the same problem and here are the steps to take to remove or edit an address. Setup-More-Personal Information-Address Book-Choose User,Yourself or Wife-Select an Address-Choose Delete Option in Lower Left of Screen.
Just picked up a new 2005 Touring, the first question my neat-freak wife asks, "how do you clean the screen". Read the manual and not surprisingly, no mention. I would think those wipes for computer screens would work, is Windex OK as well?
Does anyone have an Odyssey equipped with the rear camera that can say how it works in the winter in a snowy environment? Does it requires continual cleaning? Also have you had any problem with lens becoming scratched or cloudy.
We live in upstate NY and are wondering if it is a practical option for this area.
After wondering the same thing last week I took my Odyssey to the carwash.They cleaned the Navi screen with the same mix that was used on the windows. No harm was done.
Kensington (and other companies I guess) make a microfiber cloth (theirs is called Screen Guardian). I got it for my laptop lcd screen but it works well on the crt monitors as well. Another option if you don't want to spritz liquid on yours for some reason.
I am about to purchase an 05 Odyssey and am not really sure if the Nav or even the RES is worth the top $$ Honda is asking for. For 1 1/2 years I've been using a StreetPilot 2610 in my current two cars. For those who are not familiar, it's made by Garmin and has most of the features that a Honda system has. Price was about $700 at the time. It comes with 2 Map CD's for all of NA.
To me, the main advantage, beside a $1300 saving is the flexibility you have with this solution: When I travel, I just take the Nav with me. Turns out, the places you are least familiar with are often those places where you sit in a rental car. Another advantage is that I can transfer the NAV between my wife's and my car and when I sell the car, I get to keep my NAV system.
Of course there are some disadvantages: You don't have voice activation (although you get voice commands!), the system is not DVD based but the newer systems have a hardrive that stores the entire NA map. Obviously, the portable nav is not integrated as nicely and clean as the OEM one is. And sorry, no back-up camera.
So, all things considered, I still find it really hard to justify spending $2000 on the Honda system. I also have similar thought on the RES system but that probably should go into another forum.
I can only offer my thoughts here. Inasmuch as I paid invoice for my Touring R&N, my cost for the extra features was $3415.
Included in that package were four features: XM radio; navigation system, back-up camera; and DVD system.
The price of the Honda part(s) alone to enable an XM-ready system was about $500. The value of the back-up camera was $200-300 for me (and its already paid for itself!).
Subtracting those numbers meant the cost of the nav and DVD was down to less than $2700. An aftermarket DVD system would probably run $1000 and (I believe) would not provide separate front and rear audio controls (which, given my teenagers, is a BIG plus). In my mind the value of this integrated system is probably at least $1350, meaning the true "cost" of the nav to me was about $1350.
At such a figure I consider it a bargain, especially in comparison with the inferior system in my wife's Pilot that ran an extra $2000.
All that said, if I had already owned a Garmin and neither wanted nor needed the DVD system, I would have bought the base Touring.
We are trying to decide whether or not we want the Nav package or just get a separate hand held nav system Our biggest concern right now is the ability to use it in Atlantic Canada (Nova Scota, PEI areas) which is where we do most of our travels. Any ideas out there? We don't really care about the other features (DVD player, XMradio, etc.) so we're torn between getting the factory installed or the Megellan Roadmate 700. Fist time user of a nav system. All ideas & opinions are welcomed
My post above (#486) addreses some of the issues here. The system sold in Odysseys in the U.S. supposedly includes map coverage about 100 miles into Canada. I'm not real familiar with the area you are describing but it seems quite possible you would need to buy (at a cost of about $185) a disk covering all of Canada.
Although the Odyssey navigation system is marvelous, I don't see how you could justify its cost if you have no need for the other features that come with the R&N package.
Sounds as though a portable unit would better fit your particular needs.
From what I can tell, only some provinces (Ontario, Quebec, Alberta, B.C., Manitoba, Saskatchewan) are covered (and, based on the comments in the FAQ, possibly only for major cities and/or up to 100 miles from the US border).
The FAQ mentions "If coverage for northern Canada is required, a white-labeled "Canada and Northern USA" DVD is available. To purchase this edition, contact the DVD Fulfillment Center at 1-888-549-3798 for Acura or 1-888-291-4675 for Honda."
This doesn't specifically mention any of the Atlantic provinces though so its still not clear to me that this is included.
I would think (perhaps incorrectly) that fairly full coverage would be available for Canadian customers. I'd guess that many of the aftermarket systems would have the same coverage / issues?
Thanks for the info. I had already visited Alpine & found the same dilemma you did. So we went to day & bought the EX-L without the bells & whistles & stopped along the way to look at the Megellan 700. Figured if we want it & can find out difinitively if AC is covered it was a better deal.
New Question.. we haven't picked up the car yet so I have til tomorrow to answer this.. Has anyone bought the extended warranty & if so are you satisfied with it. I usually stay away from them but this one seems to cover almost everything.
It's not necessary to buy the warranty when you purchase the car. Check the thread about extended warranties to get some ideas about prices and others' thoughts.
I recently bought a 2000 EX and want to know where I would purchase the latest update for the navigation system. Also I was wanting to know if you would be able to play a normal DVD in the system and watch it on the front screen?
My Odyssey EX-L has the Navi/Res system along with XM radio and 6 disc changer. All I wanted was the navi, but was forced to buy the Res and XM. My ODy has 200 miles on it and I am experiencing problems with the navi. Everything from "wrong version" messages to a complete shut down of the screen. The dealer has promised to fix it, but says that the integrated system (Navi/Res/radio/XM/CD) is too complex and they have had many complaints about one or the other not working. Honda Inc. will not ship replacement parts to the dealers until a complex troubleshooting process involving a tech in Calif. and the local dealer talk on the phone (much as a computer/software problem would be supported)to determine which of the units is defective. The old addage "keep it simple works best. Ever since the Ody plant in Tenn,. opened, Honda QC has been slipping.
I had the same problem they ended replacing the front control unit after 2 days of trouble shutting and at no cost.. of curse they gave me a loaner car and it was all fix. no more stuck controls.
I have 2002 EX-NAV and we love the system. Ran into one minor problem this year. When zoomed to 1/8 or 1/2 mile resolution the pointer is to relocate at the bottom center of the screen and remain stationary while the map rotates around it. I lost this feature somehow. No mater what zoom level the pointer rotates and the map remains stationary. I removed the DVD and rebooted the system, but the problem remained. Has anyone else run into this problem? Can the dealer help? Will an update help solve this problem? Appreciate anyones help. Thanks in advance. :confuse:
I'll be in the market for a minivan in the next 6 months or so and I've got a question about the Honda NAV. My current NAV "solution" is a laptop with MS Streets and Trips with a Magellan Meridian hooked up to give me real time tracking. Of course, it doesn't give me turn by turn directions, but I can plan my routes and scope out POI's from the comfort of my home vs. sitting in a vehicle.
One thing I like about S&T's is that it's very easy for me to drop a pushpin either by entering an address, GPS coordinates, or even just a click on the map. I've used this feature on the maps of my most common routes (Houston - San Antonio and Houston - Dallas) to mark interesting stops (like the big statue of Sam Houston, hear Huntsville) and to make a note of a McDonalds with the best restrooms and playgrounds.
How hard/easy/possible is it to add custom POI's to the Honda NAV database? And, it is possible to build a route and save it for future use or do you have to reenter all your stops every time you want to take a trip?
I bought the new Honda NAV system DVD version 2.2 and loaded it into the DVD of my 2000 Odyssey. I noticed right away that the system default was set to surface roads, instead of freeways/interstates. Several of the routes it calculated ignored the direct interstate route and instead used the long route. Even when selecting the "direct route" option the system tried to minimize the use of freeways. Apparently the default algothrim was changed in version 2.2 from interstate to surface road. There was no way to force the system to calculate a route that was completely on the interstate.
I sent the DVD version 2.2 back to Alpine and they refunded the $185 (but not the tax or shipping). I then loaded DVD version 2.1 and received this error message:
"DVD disk reading error. Incorrect DVD disk. Please consult your dealer." The dealer suggested disconnecting the battery and I did that (be sure you have your passcodes for the NAV system and the radio). But then received the same error message when the battery was reconnected. Seems like disconnecting the battery would have cleared the memory in the NAV system.
I don't exactly get what you are talking about but it sounds like you mean you have lost the ability to change between "North" up and "Direction of travel" up. This feature changes the depiction on your screen to always show N at the top of your screen or always show your car going "up" the screen. In this second mode the map rotates around when you turn.
You can switch back and forth between modes by touching the upper right corner of the screen. Touch the little arrow icon in the upper right part of the screen. The map will revert to North up when you zoom out to a certain scale.
I have a 2004 Odyssey. The NAV system works fine, but there are some roads not on the system. I was interested in upgrading to the new DVD for 2005, but after your story, I'm afraid to upgrade the system. I am also dismayed at the $185 price tag for the new DVD. I wonder if the disc can be copied and shared. I would like to find out how your problems are resolved.
I have a 2005 Touring with navigation system. Haven't had any problems with it but I would like an easier way to make entries in the address book. I noticed that there is a PC Card slot in the DVD player under the drivers seat. Is it possible to put information from my computer into the system using this slot?
Check your navigation system owner's manual on this. I seem to recall that it stated that slot was solely for use of service personnel.
There's a thread (on an owner's club site the name of which I am not allowed to mention here) about the "hidden developers' screen" that might throw some light on this issue.
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5. You can earn extra money as a taxi service and know that you'll always be able to find your destination.
4. Listening to the computer voice giving the directions is SOOOOOOO much more soothing than your significant other screaming that you just missed your exit.
3. It's a really neat way to hide your CD-changer!
2. No one can ever actually fold up a map once it is opened. Why invite the headache?
And the number 1 reason is.....
1. IT LOOKS REALLY COOL!!!!!!
I think it is hard to make a solid case for NAV unless you tend to travel a lot to places you haven't been. We have found it useful when heading to a museum somewhere and we are not sure exactly where it is, but then, we could have looked it up on the Internet. A couple times we used it to select a nearby restaurant in which to eat (has those Zagat reviews). I suppose there are better uses, but we have not yet taken it on vacation or a trip. The back-up camera rocks, though, and it appears on the NAVI screen.
Last weekend my wife and a friend of hers went to a party at another woman's house, about 10 miles from our home. Turns out that when they left, they became turned around in that woman's neighborhood and could not find their way out. So my wife hits the "talk" button on the NAVI and says, "Go home." And the NAVI, which I programmed, shows them the way out and home. I never would have guessed THAT particular use.
NAV has voice activation for radio, climate control, and rear entertainment system.
Very easy to manipulate radio--especially XM--from easy-to-read touchscreen.
Does save lots of time from map reading.
Can program in all favorite destinations--home, work, airports, etc.--and access everything by voice.
Has Zagat's 2004 numerical ratings and tons of restaurant listings, supermarkets, ATMs, attractions, etc. (Listings aren't perfect--call to double check). Can say, for example, "nearest Italian restaurants" and a list will appear.
has voice prompts if you want them-- mininum, maximum, somewhere in between or none at all--automatically lowers volume on radio when voice is speaking -- can choose male or female.
rear camera is helpful
good luck.
Thanks
Are there any other enhancements that I might expect to see? Do they actually upgrade the software/firmware in any way?
Setup-More-Personal Information-Address Book-Choose User,Yourself or Wife-Select an Address-Choose Delete Option in Lower Left of Screen.
I hope this helps you out.
We live in upstate NY and are wondering if it is a practical option for this area.
Thanks.
Steve, Host
For 1 1/2 years I've been using a StreetPilot 2610 in my current two cars. For those who are not familiar, it's made by Garmin and has most of the features that a Honda system has. Price was about $700 at the time. It comes with 2 Map CD's for all of NA.
To me, the main advantage, beside a $1300 saving is the flexibility you have with this solution: When I travel, I just take the Nav with me. Turns out, the places you are least familiar with are often those places where you sit in a rental car. Another advantage is that I can transfer the NAV between my wife's and my car and when I sell the car, I get to keep my NAV system.
Of course there are some disadvantages: You don't have voice activation (although you get voice commands!), the system is not DVD based but the newer systems have a hardrive that stores the entire NA map. Obviously, the portable nav is not integrated as nicely and clean as the OEM one is. And sorry, no back-up camera.
So, all things considered, I still find it really hard to justify spending $2000 on the Honda system. I also have similar thought on the RES system but that probably should go into another forum.
Included in that package were four features: XM radio; navigation system, back-up camera; and DVD system.
The price of the Honda part(s) alone to enable an XM-ready system was about $500. The value of the back-up camera was $200-300 for me (and its already paid for itself!).
Subtracting those numbers meant the cost of the nav and DVD was down to less than $2700. An aftermarket DVD system would probably run $1000 and (I believe) would not provide separate front and rear audio controls (which, given my teenagers, is a BIG plus). In my mind the value of this integrated system is probably at least $1350, meaning the true "cost" of the nav to me was about $1350.
At such a figure I consider it a bargain, especially in comparison with the inferior system in my wife's Pilot that ran an extra $2000.
All that said, if I had already owned a Garmin and neither wanted nor needed the DVD system, I would have bought the base Touring.
Any ideas out there? We don't really care about the other features (DVD player, XMradio, etc.) so we're torn between getting the factory installed or the Megellan Roadmate 700. Fist time user of a nav system. All ideas & opinions are welcomed
Although the Odyssey navigation system is marvelous, I don't see how you could justify its cost if you have no need for the other features that come with the R&N package.
Sounds as though a portable unit would better fit your particular needs.
From what I can tell, only some provinces (Ontario, Quebec, Alberta, B.C., Manitoba, Saskatchewan) are covered (and, based on the comments in the FAQ, possibly only for major cities and/or up to 100 miles from the US border).
The FAQ mentions "If coverage for northern Canada is required, a white-labeled "Canada and Northern USA" DVD is available. To purchase this edition, contact the DVD Fulfillment Center at 1-888-549-3798 for Acura or 1-888-291-4675 for Honda."
This doesn't specifically mention any of the Atlantic provinces though so its still not clear to me that this is included.
I would think (perhaps incorrectly) that fairly full coverage would be available for Canadian customers. I'd guess that many of the aftermarket systems would have the same coverage / issues?
ETA
New Question.. we haven't picked up the car yet so I have til tomorrow to answer this.. Has anyone bought the extended warranty & if so are you satisfied with it.
I usually stay away from them but this one seems to cover almost everything.
And, no, you can not watch a movie on the screen.
Is it THAT much cheaper? What dealer did you buy from? How much did you pay?
One thing I like about S&T's is that it's very easy for me to drop a pushpin either by entering an address, GPS coordinates, or even just a click on the map. I've used this feature on the maps of my most common routes (Houston - San Antonio and Houston - Dallas) to mark interesting stops (like the big statue of Sam Houston, hear Huntsville) and to make a note of a McDonalds with the best restrooms and playgrounds.
How hard/easy/possible is it to add custom POI's to the Honda NAV database? And, it is possible to build a route and save it for future use or do you have to reenter all your stops every time you want to take a trip?
I bought the new Honda NAV system DVD version 2.2 and loaded it into the DVD of my 2000 Odyssey. I noticed right away that the system default was set to surface roads, instead of freeways/interstates. Several of the routes it calculated ignored the direct interstate route and instead used the long route. Even when selecting the "direct route" option the system tried to minimize the use of freeways. Apparently the default algothrim was changed in version 2.2 from interstate to surface road. There was no way to force the system to calculate a route that was completely on the interstate.
I sent the DVD version 2.2 back to Alpine and they refunded the $185 (but not the tax or shipping). I then loaded DVD version 2.1 and received this error message:
"DVD disk reading error. Incorrect DVD disk. Please consult your dealer." The dealer suggested disconnecting the battery and I did that (be sure you have your passcodes for the NAV system and the radio). But then received the same error message when the battery was reconnected. Seems like disconnecting the battery would have cleared the memory in the NAV system.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Mick
Chesapeake, Virginia
You can switch back and forth between modes by touching the upper right corner of the screen. Touch the little arrow icon in the upper right part of the screen. The map will revert to North up when you zoom out to a certain scale.
Does anyone know how to remove the PIN after setting it? I set it, but find it a pain everytime I have to put it in.
Regards,
Emil
There's a thread (on an owner's club site the name of which I am not allowed to mention here) about the "hidden developers' screen" that might throw some light on this issue.