Honda Odyssey GPS Navigation System

laterldf1

Does/can the 06 Ody nav system show elevation, lat/longitude, rest stops, and mile markers? We've been thinking about trading. An earlier post suggested that you could change destinations, etc. without having to pull over and slowing down or stopping. Right? Also, is it a flat presentation or "birds eye" 3-d type. Thanks. lew

sebring95

There is a way to see the elevation/lat/long. I couldn't tell you how at the moment, but I've screwed up and found that screen. It shows mile markers, rest stops, gas stations, restaurants, etc. You can pick/choose what icons are displayed. There is no need to stop the vehicle for any functionality. It's generally a "flat" presentation but you get "3d" when it goes to a split screen to show an exit. I think you can also run with the split "3D" screen running all the time, but I'm not sure. I've had quite a few Navs and this is a darn good system IMHO. Better than the Lexus Nav. Not quite as good as my Garmin, but the screen is much bigger and it's integrated, so those are big bonus points.

moolen

I live in Ashland, MA about 15 miles from Boston and I have serious accuracy problems with my Honda navigation system (2005) right around my house. The system will not track the road correctly for sometimes 2 minutes and sometimes 5 minutes. Other days it will work correctly. The position will go off as far as 5 miles from my actual position. Some times I have similar problems in other areas around Boston. I am thinking that I am not locking on to at least three satellites which stops the GPS from triangulation. The dealer says that there is nothing wrong with my system. Has anybody else seen these kind of problems?

laterldf1

Thanks Sebring. That helps. Now I have to decide about the PAX tires/wheel controversy. Lew

sebring95

Now I have to decide about the PAX tires/wheel controversy.

I didn't have that problem, I needed the 8-passenger seating which means I was stuck with the EX-L R&N. The Nav is a no brainer IMHO if you have any desire for it. The backup camera, voice commands, integrated XM from factory really make the NAV a decent deal. You'd be close to that if you tried to put all that in with a good aftermarket system, but without the Honda warranty/residual.

I'm on the fence with PAX. It would certainly be nice, but in some instances it would be more inconvenient than just throwing on the spare and getting a standard tire fixed at the next exit. 55mph isn't safe for really driving any distance. Plus I'm not a fan of being stuck with only having one tire option when it's time to replace. Good luck figuring that one out :P

arjudy

I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey with the navigation system. Can an aftermarket stereo be wired in such a way as to still here the voice from the navigation system? I had a stereo dealer install a new stereo in the Odyssey and the voice is no longer audible. I notice that the stereo has a wire marked "mute" and the installation manual for the new stereo said this is for use with a cellular telephone. Would this wire work with the navigation system? If you think it would work which wire on the original radio wiring harness would it need to be hooked up to? Thanks for any info.

marjen1

Was wondering if there were any after market Nav CD's available for a 2000 Honda Ody? And if so where? Any help would be great.

tf5598

Just got my 06 Odyssey home and have been fiddling w/ the nav. My subdivision is new and not in the DB, but how do I mark the position of my house? Is it possible to mark a position (lat/long) and name it without an address to go along with it?

sebring95

I'm not aware of a way to mark a point by lat/long. I would think the easiest way would be to just pick the nearest address that's along your way home. Unless you're on a serious drunk, you should be able to find your way from that point :P

marjen1

With your finger you touch the screen lightly and it should come up with Lon/Lat. You may need to zoom out or in depending on what your looking for. If your house isnt on the database you should be able to still get an approximate, depending on where you touch the screen. And if anyone knows where I can get an after market Nav CD I would appreciate someone dropping me a response, cause $175.00 hmmm is a little bit much I think. I hav a 2000 Ody and would like the updated version cd. ty...

asaood

you can contect the honda dealer and give him the serial # of your Navi. then he will give you the PIN #.
its free of charge. try it.

asaood

i have 2002 Honda Odyssey. circuit city put the new DVD player in my van. after putting all this my navigation sound does not work. every thing is ok . it shown the icons and you can press the voice button but can not hear the voice. please help me how the reactivate the voice.

jesb64

I am going to buy a 2006 Honda Odyssey. I would like to get the Navigation System but my husband does not want it. He feels the system gets stolen alot. Does anybody have any thoughts. Thanks

sebring95

I really doubt the Ody NAV system would get stolen "alot". For one thing, it's not anywhere near plug-n-play with a model that doesn't have NAV. The dash/controls/stereo are all completely different on models with NAV. It also has a lot of built-in controls and the antenna that would make it expensive to upgrade a non-NAV vehicle to NAV even if you stole all the parts. Some vehicles essentially have a different stereo (many GM/Chrysler/Ford) with the NAV all in one unit that you could quite easily swap. The Ody NAV has seperate components located all over the vehicle. It certainly would be a tough snatch-n-grab and would be even worse to put back together.

The ODY nav is amoung the best I've used from OEM. It's not as good (operational, amount of data) as some aftermarkets such as my Garmin. However, the integration really can't be beat plus you get a backup camera and voice controls. Besides, it's built-in so your insurance will cover it if by some chance it does get ripped off.

cccompson

Your husband's concern about theft seems greatly misplaced. Now it is possible, down the road, that there may be some demand for stolen nav systems as models age and systems fail but, really, if that is the best objection he can come up with I think he owes you an R&N.

cstiles

You also need a password to reactivate the navi after it is disabled, and the password is unique to the VIN. Even if the system could be stolen, there is practically no aftermarket profit potential, and I can't imagine the parts off the navi are that valuable. The dash for the Odyssey w/o navi is also different, so you could only re-install the system in a vehicle that already came from the factory with an OEM system.

dkrak

I just purchased a 2006 EX-L w/ Nav, and after a day of driving, I'm finding that the navigation system is not accurate. The car shows up on the map as being about 20 to 40 feet before where the car physically is. The system will tell me to turn just as I pass the turn!

I've stopped in the car at an intersection (in a very residential area with no traffic, of course!) and used the "adjust location" feature to set the location as precisely as possible, but it still manages to deviate when I start driving again.

I haven't added anything to van (e.g., no radar detector), and the only other thing in the car that could conceivably interfere is my cell (which I doubt has any impact).

My Garmin StreetPilot is considerably more accurate.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem?

Thanks in advance.

loncray

The Navi in my wife's 2006 Touring is GREAT! We have enough construction around here that we're occasionally off-roading (the database doesn't include the newest roads yet), but on established roads it's been accurate to the foot. If you're off that much, there's something wrong with your system. Take it back to the dealer and have them check it out. Maybe you've got a stuck gyroscope or something.

villagegramps

Yes!! I have a 2006 Touring and have exactly the same problem. So far, the dealer hasn't figured it out, in fact, they haven't figured much on the Navi, doesn't seem to be that frequently sold, or only sold to 1st-timers. We also have a '00 Acura which is always accurate. On recent trip, wife took navi directions & made several bad mistakes coming off an expressway and going off to another, she ended up going 20 minutes the wrong way before she could get back. In our case, the directions seem to be just in that 20-50 range, and that can be important when there's lots of options for exits.

user777

FWIW: ask the dealership who the manufacturer of the NAV is, and contact them for a manual or proceedure for calibration of the unit.

i'm sure it uses the GPS (Global Positioning System) of satellites; there is an inherent location measurement error built into the system (on purpose i guess on commercial applications to avoid you and me from making accurate homing missles or something).

i imagine a number of satellites can and are used to "triangulate" your position, but also to reduce or limit that error. i'm not sure how much that gross error could be but i would imagine with very closely spaced roads, enough to get you confused. however, looking on the web, that error is only on the order of 20meters or less. so go figure.

perhaps your antenna placement or operation is not proper; maybe your vehicle isn't in constant contact with the necessary number of satellites to keep the error down.

however, i think a vehicle navigation system will use (in addition to GPS location information) vehicle speed, direction (fwd/rev) and also accelerometer or gyroscope information to track the vehicle's location as you drive and make turns, backup, etc.

now then, you didn't put custom tires on the vehicle of a non-OEM size, because if you did, it would look funny but also, that would throw things off - and probably require / force a recalibration as the vehicle speed sensing would be in error.

from what i've read by googling, if the accelerometer or more likely gyroscope arrangement isn't installed properly, specifically the assembly (don't know where that is exactly - maybe in the engine compartment) if not in the correct orientation with respect to the road surface, then that could cause additional tracking errors.

dkrak

It's my understanding that navigation systems use a combination of GPS, dead reckoning and map matching to pinpoint location. Portable units such as the Garmin, TomTom, etc. don't always incorporate inertial sensors (gyros and accelerometers), so they rely on two of the three. My experience has been that the combination of map matching and GPS in a small Garmin unit is excellent, and the absence of dead reckoning is only a problem when you lose the GPS signal.

That said, my system (which was factory installed, with no changes that I've made, and which has exhibited the problem since day 1) seems to have the problem independent of the strength of the GPS signal and independent of car speed. I do notice that sometimes the red arrow that represents the car will skip when the error is extreme. This seems to me as though the system knows that it has a problem is trying to compensate.

Based on what I've seen, I strongly suspect that either there is a calibration procedure that wasn't followed, or that the GPS receiver is faulty and needs replacing.

I'll be taking it back to the dealer in the next day or two, so hopefully I'll have it resolved. My fear is that the service people will treat this as a subjective problem that they don't think it is bad enough for a warranty repair/replacement.

user777

what if the gyro isn't mounted parallel to the road surface, or like the antenna, is otherwise not working?

there must be some sort of disk which you can pop into the thing for it to do some self checking... certainly the dealership has that.

loncray

If you're getting any indicators at all (just wrong ones) then it's picking up the satellite signals - that means the antenna is working. My guess is there's something wrong with the internal sensors or gyroscopes. I don't think there's a disk you can pop in it, but the dealership CAN hook their computers to it and reflash it (useful for updating the database with new roads). As I said, my wife's has been accurate to the foot from day one - especially nice when faced with multiple exit options on an unfamiliar stretch of interstate. Another possibility is that it was badly calibrated (or not at all) by the dealership - perhaps a visit to a different dealership is in order?

pallidin

Is there a website where one can order an update to the Nav CD? How does one know what is the latest CD?

asaood

Yea go to https://iweb.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php

page .
and click on

"Find out what’s new for your vehicle’s navigation DVD update."

it will ask the model and tell you the updated DVD for your car. you can ourder dvd at the same site

julierichardso

frequently on ebay

jonathansulliv

"useful for updating the database with new roads"

This is incorrect, the information is stored on the DVD, not the navigation system. To update the new roads, buy the new DVD when it comes out.

p1111a

I don't know if this is possible. I recently purchased the Odsy 2006 RES w/o Navigation. Now that I am reading all these cool things about the Navigation I want one. Has anyone heard about adding the navigation after purchase, maybe as an option? Or is there any other solution?
Thanks.

sebring95

It's very doubtful you'd ever find a Honda dealer willing to add this. There's no option package or add-on available for this, which means you'd have to get someone to part it out and try and figure out how to wire it all together. Based on the number of parts involved, I think you'd have somewhere in the vacinity of a fortune getting it done. At $2,000 from the factory, it's not a bad deal. Much beyond that, you might as well trade-up if it's something you really want.

There are aftermarket Nav system (which a dealer could likely install) however they lack a lot of the integration that makes the OEM system so nice. I have an aftermarket NAV unit, that quite frankly is BETTER than the OEM nav in terms of points-of-interest, mapping, etc. However, it is not integrated at all, doesn't have a backup camera, or voice commands for the stereo and HVAC. So if you just want the gee-whiz intergration, OEM is the only way to go. If you just want a good NAV system, there are some decent aftermarket options.

p1111a

Thanks for the reply. I actually spoke to my salesguy and he said that they do have navigation units that they install. I am going to stop by to see what they look like. Excellent info you provided thanks.

biscuit1941

I have a 05 Pilot EXL-Nav. I find the nav extremely accurate in the city USUALLY. In San Francisco where I have had to make a right turn and a left turn within a block it warns me and is a life saver. In medium sized cities (Chico CA) and small towns in the midwest, looking for a specific motel or restaurant, it has been off by as much as half a mile. I also have trouble on one country mountainous, winding road where the screen will switch between screens.
bottom line? I love it and all future cars I buy or lease will have nav. I live in the boontoolies and hate driving in cities, but ahve to on occaision and these things are a lifesaver. I do not like th eidea of an aftermarket unit perched on the dash.
One other complaint about the pilot navi that I wonder if is a problem in the ody.
The dash is different and the clock ends up being VERY low on the dasha dn I have a hard time reading it. My next car will likely be an ody, is this a problem with the ody? :confuse:

sebring95

The clock on the Ody with NAV is located just by the NAV screen. Pretty much everything is up high and within easy reach with the exception of the DVD player and seat heater controls.

biscuit1941

Tango Uniform, Sebring. Apply for a commission on the ody I buy when the 08's come out. My Pilot lease is up apr 30, 07, so I will extend until 08 ody is available.

tf5598

'06 Odyssey -- Need help on this, can't find in manual.
When I punch in a store name/type, it brings up stores on the other side of the country. Is there a way to get it to give me the stores nearest to my position, automatically?
I have a handheld GPSr and this is an easy setting. Can't figure this out in my Odyssey.

fx35awd

Hi everyone, I was wondering if you need to make a complete stop prior to using the navigation system on the 2006 Honda Odyssey because I find that annoying especially when you have the passenger sitting next to the driver. The Infiniti and Toyota navigation has this annoying feature. Car with this navigation system feature should install a weigh sensor on the passenger side to overide this feature. Please can anyone tell if this also occur in the new model Honda Odyssey. Thank you.

sebring95

Once you press the "accept" legal nag on the NAV screen, you can operate it at any time. No need for a passenger either...the voice commands make it safe to operate while driving.

My wife's Lexus limits what you can do while driving and I hate hit. Honda/Acura NAV is tops of all the OEM system, although it still lacks some things my older Garmin has. But the Ody NAV integration is top notch.

loncray

I need to go play with the Navi on my wife's '06 Navi - but I don't remember getting store names from anyplace other than near where I was already. What do you mean by 'punching in a store name/type' exactly? Perhaps you're missing a step in the process that would zero Navi in better, or going into the menu backwards.

sebring95

Here's the trick: Don't search by "name".

Do this:

Menu, Places, Restaurants, All Types, Search by City Vacinity or Distance to Travel, Type in first few letters of name, list. This will give you a list of all similar names and sort them by city vacinity (you'll have to put in a city) or distance to travel. Distance to travel is most useful when traveling and looking for food/shopping/motel nearby. City vacinity is good if you're looking for something ahead of time.

So really, you need to search by category. The only downside is if you don't know what category to use, it might take a few trys.

pawdor

Did you find out how to get Nav working in Canada?. Im in exactly the same situation with 2001 Odyssey driving 'blind' in Canada.

gelano

It can't be the factory navigation. I looked into buying all the factory parts and it added up around $4,500 from a discount online store. Retail was close to $6,000. With labor, that doesn't seem the way to go. In-dash aftermarket Nav systems are easier to install on non-RES models without ANC, but mine is a Touring with RES and the head unit controls everything!

I had the Pioneer AVIC-Z1 installed with XM Nav Traffic, Bluetooth, iPod interface, backup camera and with specific instructions that everything should work the way it did except for the head unit. RES, steering wheel controls, ANC, rear seat aux inputs...should work exactly the same. Total estimated "Installed" cost was initially $2280 (Retail is $2700 +installation materials), but after the installers pulled apart the van, they were in for a surprise. They could not remove the factory head unit without disabling the ANC/RES. So they asked for $500 more for labor. After much negotiation - I gave in (I guess there really wasn't any negotiation).

They were able to pull apart the head unit's front panel & 6-disc CD changer, but everything else remained intact. So ANC is still active (very important to keep noise levels down later on when VCM starts to deteriorate and make noise). Steering wheel controls, subwoofer, rear aux, and RES works. They also hooked it up so that we could see what the kids were watching in the front. All-in-all, the car was in for a whole day and took 2 people to install.

Difference between the factory and my setup:
Pros:
UI & Navigation interface is faster (I have a '06 Pilot with Navi as well).
More sophisticated navigation (more POI, more options to find addresses...this is also a Con because the factory navis are easier to learn)
Bluetooth handsfree (Be careful, incoming callers can be loud)
iPod interface (iPod is controlled by the head unit, title, artist, album info shown)
XM NavTraffic (a must if you live in Southern California)
Additional DVD player for front passenger
30 GB HDD to Navigation Info, CDDB (CD song info). 10GB is allocated to rip CD's MP3/WMA
Stored CDDB that recognizes most of my CD's.

Cons:
They could not get the mode button on the steering wheel to work.
Not as clean as factory model (i.e. it looks like an aftermarket unit - what do you expect?)
Microphone, GPS antenna, XM satellite antenna are visible
Very complex system (I'm a software engineer so I don't mind the complexity, but it is a steeper learning curve than the factory unit)
There is no talk/back button on the steering wheel of the non-navi Touring, but I ordered the Pioneer CD-SR1 steering wheel control which has controls for voice, bluetooth and mode as well.

Price & features change with different aftermarket units & accessories, so shop around and see what you like and what you can afford. I hope this helps. Sorry if it's an extremely loooooonnng post. E-mail me for questions: a*n*g*e*l*o*m*r*@*a*o*l*.*c*o*m

cccompson

Wow, gelano, you just made me feel ALOT better about the money I spent to get factory R&N setup.

gelano

Yup they ran out of navis '06, when I bought mine, and I wasn't willing to dish out an additional $3000 (in addition to the $2200 for the navi) to get the '07 models. If you can do without bluetooth or XM NavTraffic, the factory navigation is one of the best in the market and is worth every penny - just ask all those people with google map print-outs that got into an accident because they weren't watching the road!

congdu

Hi,
I have the same problem with my 2003 Odyssey, I've tried many different ways, but still not working. I did purchased an orange label disk but the system won't recognize. I wonder if any body can help me to find the DVD disk which support Canada and work which my Odyssey Nav system.

marjen1

Does anyone know if the Nav/CD is also called a black disc? Or if anyone knows what a black disc is? I would appreciate it, Ty :confuse:

drjcl

My 2007 Nav is showing All the Mobile Home Parks in the Phoenix area, with blue titles. How do I remove these?

loncray

Sooner or later a tornado and rising land costs will do that for you. Might take a few decades though.

Seriously, there should be a menu setting you've turned on at some point - check your Navi manual to turn it back off. I think you can have it show gas stations, Honda/Acura dealerships, restaurants - you've just turned on one of those optional things is all.

kw4

I just want to know if placing a cargo carrier on the roof of the Odyssey will affect the ability of the Nav to function properly. We generally travel with the cargo carrier on long trips and we just purchased the Odyssey with the Nav for use on long trips. Thanks.

sebring95

The GPS antenna is clear in the back, right above the rear hatch. It would be difficult to cover this enough to block sat. coverage.

fx35awd

So that bump thing on the back of the van by the spoiler is not the XM antennae?

sebring95

Actually, that is just the XM antenna. I thought it was both XM/GPS, but I'm wrong (circle this day on your calendar :P After further review, The GPS antenna is actually located under the front dash. It also takes additional direction from the speedo & yaw sensor to maintain position even if the signal is lost (tunnel, buildings, heavy forest coverage, etc.).