Real-World Trade-In Values

toltecsvt

I've got it posted on a few of the boards. at least the ones i know of. We'll see how it goes. I am buying a used car off the dealer to start with (a '04 Focus SVT) and only have a week for it to sell.

corvette

If memory serves, that car (the SVT) did win an Edmunds.com comparison test against a third-generation Jetta VR6.

caddyluvr

I owned this exact same car for three years (except mine was silver). It's really a fantastic car, whomever it was that said enthusiasts are mis-guided is ill-informed.

Put it up for sale on contour.org. I helped start that site back in 1997 when I bought my first Contour. I sold my 2000 SVT back in 2002, with 45k miles and got $15k for it after only paying $18,6k to begin with. Not a valid comparison, but gives you an idea of the high dollar enthusiasts are sometimes willing to pay for one *IF* (big IF) it's in nice condition. A lot of these guys are looking for stock cars like yours for project cars. The accident is going to hold you back some though. Still, I would expect to fetch $5-7k for a car like this.

rroyce10

..... Hey it could be worse .. you could have got $1,200 ........ $2,200 was aaaaaaaaall the money (and a bag of chips) based on your description ...

Like my Great Grand Daddy used to say: "even a blind squirell can't find a nut on any given day" ...

thanks for the update ...

Terry.

rroyce10

... **Put it up for sale on contour.org. I helped start that site back in 1997 when I bought my first Contour. I sold my 2000 SVT back in 2002, with 45k miles and got $15k for it after only paying $18,6k to begin with. Not a valid comparison, but gives you an idea of the high dollar enthusiasts are sometimes willing to pay for one *IF* (big IF) it's in nice condition. A lot of these guys are looking for stock cars like yours for project cars. The accident is going to hold you back some though. Still, I would expect to fetch $5-7k for a car like this**
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Good advice given here .... if you can get $7/$8,000 for it, I would be doing hand flips ... 88k is lots of miles on any vehicle, even a SVT ........

Terry.

rroyce10

... **P.S. Suburb of Circle City? Yes, if 110 miles qualifies as suburban distance....**

Thats called "humor" .................

Thanks for the update ......

Terry.

rroyce10

.. **Okay. Going to be trading or selling this car very soon. Trade-in value? Probably send it down retail road. Value?

Dealer offered $7,000 trade, but the price on the new Subaru was too high.

Portland, Oregon
2000 Subaru Outback limited wagon
2.5 4cyl automatic
AWD
129,000 BIG MILES
Color: Winestone (dark red)
Usual limited options: leather, sunroofs, cd player and subwoofer.

Good condition. One owner. Interior has some wear. A small tear in the rear seat and a few scratches on the inside (big dogs). Outside has the usual parking lot scratches/dings. Nothing major. New tires, brakes good, complete maintenance.
Two minor accidents. Rear hatch and bumper cover replaced after being rear-ended, and a small ding in a rear quarter panel from a mail box repaired.
Thanks.
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Where's the good news ........?

... it's got GIANT miles and it's hit everything "but" Joe Lewis .... Subaru's are renowned for the great resale value .... if you can get $7,000 for it (real money) with 130,000 miles, then you need to be there and not reading this silly post ..

Thats all the Taco's at Taco Bell ...



Terry.

rroyce10

... **It's a balmy 3 (yes, that's one digit) degrees here in Chicago. Mom may FINALLY have found some new wheels, please tell me what you think this strange bird is worth retail, wholesale, whatever:

02 MB E320 4Matic wagon
silver/ash interior
all the usual stuff, plus:
third seat
BOSE system with changer
winter package
tel-aid
I think it has Xenons (has the side mirror signals), but they aren't mentioned
Supposedly excellent condition (aren't they all?)
Indianapolis area
Carfax clean, one owner from KY, corporate lease
82k (!) miles (there's the rub--haven't seen the tires, service records, etc. Maybe it needs service?)
The price, even with those miles, seems really low (these were $60k new, right?). I'm not thrilled with an 82k Mercedes, but her old one has 4xxk and it doesn't seem to bother her, so? Please give me some numbers and maybe I'll be right. I'll keep you posted. Thanks!! ..**
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Was this bought at the auction, was it a trade, CPO...?

Might this be it .....?

**>>>11/08/05 ARENA Lease $12,750 81,175 Below BRI SIL 6G A No**

Figure auction fee $300, transport $250, some service and some other stuff $400ish, and it probably hits the table in the $13,9ish range ..... with that many miles I'm sure he would cut it loose for the tall $15's low low low low low low low $16's ..... me personally.? .. I'm not too crazy about hi miler Bimmers, Benz's or Audi's unless they have a CPO ...

$19,900.? .. I have this property just south of the Everglades, now it needs a few little things but ......



Terry.

anonymousposts

We sold this:

Atlanta, GA
2003 Honda Civic Si
2 door hatchback
5-speed manual transmission (only way the SI comes)
2.0L 4 cylinder engine
40,100 miles
Color: Blue exterior/black interior
Options: Power windows, power locks, power mirrors, sunroof, alloy wheels, ABS, keyless entry, AC, and CD player.
Condition: Interior is spotless. Really could pass for new as this car was adult driven without frequent passengers.
Exterior was great with the exception of a slight 4" dent on the hood caused by flying parts from a car that ran a stop sign and hit a concrete median. Other than that there are no scratches, dings, or prior damage.
Mechanican condition: Excellent. All oil changes done on time. Tires are stock Michelins with 5,000 miles on them (we took the aftermarket wheels off before we sold it). During the 40,000 miles we owned it all that went wrong was a fuel sending unit (replaced under warranty) and the light bulb for the cruise control switch was replaced.

Sold it to Carmax for $11,000.

rroyce10

..... They paid exactly what the car was worth .. so you guys did good.!

Terry.

erics6

So what do you think is a good asking price down Retail Road?

bdc2020

Hi-

Raleigh, NC

2001 GMC Sierra 1500 Extended Cab
(4 door - the 2 rear are swing out)

5.3L V-8 w/Automatic transmission
4WD (Z-71 Package)
41,000 miles

[Color] Pewter Exterior / Dark Grey Cloth Interior

[Options] 4WD w/Autotrac, Z-71 Offroad, Factory Towing Package, Power Windows, Locks, Mirrors, Cruise, Tilt, Running Boards and Tonneau Cover, AM/FM/CD, Privacy Glass

[Condition]
Interior is basically spotless.
Exterior: This is what will kill me probably, has had 3 incidents - All when I wasn't even in the car. Front plastic airdam has 2 broken mounting tabs. Rear bumper was replaced and tailgate painted when wife backed into neighbors car as they both were backing out at the same time. The biggest, is the left rear panel of the pickup bed was totally replaced when GMC DEALER hit a light pole in their parking lot while it was in for service. Stupid kid floored it on wet pavement and the back end swung out and hit the pole.

[TIRES] 2 front have about 10,000 miles left. Rear are fine for at least another 20,000.

Thanks in advance.

rroyce10

..**Location: Hartford, CT.
2003 BMW 325xi
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: 2.5L I6 DOHC 24V FI Engine
Driveline: AWD
Miles: 32,000
Color: Titanium Silver Metalic Ext./Gray Leather Int.
Condition: Clean to Outstanding.
Installed Options:
Gray Leather Interior
Automatic 5-Speed Transmission
Cold Weather Package (Heated Front Seats, Ski Sack, Split Folding Rear Seat, Headlight Washers)
Premium Package (Power Driver Seat w/Memory, Power Passenger Seat,Power Moonroof, Wood Interior Trim,Automatic Dimming Rearview Mirror)
Harmon Kardon Audio System
Rear Side Airbag Restraints
Thanks in advance!
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Up there in Hotfurd ....... we have an 03 BMW 325xi .. we got the auto thing, short miles, good color combo, Prem pack, tunes, bun warmers and the rear balloons ...... "outstanding".? .. you sound like Martha Stewart .....

If ~ it's clean to the bone, knee deep in rubber, service is from yesterday, seats look hovered in, no paint by numbers, no curb burners and it looks feels and drives like an 05 ...... then trade side, in and around the super tall $21's low/mid $22's ..... the auto, the Xi stuff and the low miles save this one ...



Terry.

rroyce10

... **So what do you think is a good asking price down Retail Road? ....**

That's the point .. $7,000 ~is~ a retail figure ... if you can get a dealer to give you $7,000 (hard money) on a trade, then you need to be there .....

I'm not knockin' the vehicle or the miles cuz' I've seen a Kazillion Subu's with 130/170/200,000++ miles, and they still sell .. too who I don't know, it's a Yankee thing ...... the only advantage you might have here is the area - Portland .... it gets back to a super a service, deep sneaks, a Fat Daddy Ad, a potpourri of nice pics and maybe $9,900 *asking* and cut it loose for anything that looks like American money ....... no tax break in Oregon, right..?

Let me know ................

Terry.

mirth

Posting this for a friend. I'm afraid it'll be something of a train wreck value-wise.

1996 Ford Explorer XL
Detroit
2dr (yes, a 2 door)
FWD, Auto
128K BIG miles (dare I say, mostly highway, lol)
Black exterior/beige interior
Power windows/locks
Condition: Some parking lot kisses but generally okay. Interior has transported a 1 year-old and the rear seat looks it. Current problem - won't idle without the driver pumping the accelerator. Mechanic says it'll cost $1600 to repair (replace catalytic converter and four O2 sensors).

What's the bad news?

blh7068

Hi terry...heres one-

12k, XM radio, auto, sunroof. No dings, rubber is what it should be for low miles.

Silver with black interior.

Tulsa, Oklahoma.

My family is about to grow...need some thing a bit bigger!

Thanks!

stickguy

I think I need to go to Terry's store to trade this thing in. Wonder where the nearest one is?

He pegged it at mid-high 14s recently (and about the same a few months back). But, the best I have been offered has been 13K (In sept. against a new Civic), and my recent forays into the land of new cars netted offers of about 12.5Kish.

I really wouldn't expect more than about 14K, assuming I was getting a good deal on the new one (so no overallowance), so there may not be an impulse buy in my near future.

Have one more dealer to visit tomorrow (Sube, where I already have a to the bone deal in place), so it will be interesting to see what they come out with.

erics6

Got it. Thanks Terry. Must be be thinking alike. This is my ex's car. I had suggested to her a big ad at $9995 OBO, and take the best offer above $7k. No sales tax, so retail is the way to go for more $$$.

Subie's do get crazy money in the NW. I don't understand buyers who go for high mileage/relatively new used cars.

ncelk

Repost of previous message:

Looks like lots of people coming out of Accords.....

Hello Terry,

Well, I am coming back to the answer man, because I have found you to be spot on in the past....................

I am looking to trade the following:

2004 Honda Accord V6-Desert Mist in color (champagne) with tan interior.

28,900 miles, new tires 2000 miles ago, no scratches, dents, repaints, seats REALLY do look hovered over, not sat in. Paint looks like the day I picked it up.

Automatic of course, rear spoiler, honda foglights,leather seats, all the standard EX V6 stuff, 3m clear bra on the front (yes, I know it does not add value, but I wanted to note it), honda wood trim.

I have a stack of records for everything ever done to the car, down to wiper blades..........

So, what is this thing worth in trade (looking at a Pilot), as well as if I tried to sell it private party.

Location is in Greensboro, NC.

Thanks in advance Terry, I always appreciate your input!

jc7098

Orlando, FL
1997 Infiniti J30
125,000 miles
Pearl exterior/beige leather interior
No accidents, some nicks in paint but nothing major
A/C works on coldest temperature, heat works
Tires have about 15,000 miles on them

What should I expect to get if it's traded in?

THanks!

dkuhajda

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida I think the magic trade in number has to be $2500.

rroyce10

..**Looks like lots of people coming out of Accords.....

Hello Terry,
Well, I am coming back to the answer man, because I have found you to be spot on in the past....................
I am looking to trade the following:
2004 Honda Accord V6-Desert Mist in color (champagne) with tan interior.
28,900 miles, new tires 2000 miles ago, no scratches, dents, repaints, seats REALLY do look hovered over, not sat in. Paint looks like the day I picked it up.
Automatic of course, rear spoiler, honda fog lights,leather seats, all the standard EX V6 stuff, 3m clear bra on the front (yes, I know it does not add value, but I wanted to note it), honda wood trim.
I have a stack of records for everything ever done to the car, down to wiper blades..........

So, what is this thing worth in trade (looking at a Pilot), as well as if I tried to sell it private party.
Location is in Greensboro, NC.
Thanks in advance Terry, I always appreciate your input!**..
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Greensboro.? ... I was in that area a few weeks ago, in Pinehurst actually .... "a bad day at golf is better than 3 good days at work" ...... who ever said that didn't have my slice ...l.o.l....

Anywaaaaay ....... we got this 04 Hooonda Accord V6 EX 4dr with 29k ... we got the auto thang, the right color, miles are kinda tall (probably drives to Pinehurst every weekend .l.o.l..) .. we got those foggers, spoiler, some do-dads like the wood and that 3M thingy-bob, we got new round things, you say it's been serviced and you have all the papers and history from day 1 and you say it's "nice" (good job) ..... trade side, in and around the mid/tall $18's, might maybe see a dealer travel into the low low low $19's - maybe ....

Retail Rd.? .. you guys get tax difference savings in NC, right ..? .. I don't think you would see more than that, because Honda will sell an V6 05 for invoiceish .....

let me know ..................

Terry.

ncelk

Thanks Terry,

And actually we do travel to the Pinehurst/Southern Pines area some (lol).

Great area to play golf (if you can hit better than me). I am average at best, but still like playing.

Let's see how the dealer does. Last time I looked, lots of Pilots sitting around on lots.

And yes, NC is trade difference only on taxes.

I apppreciate your input.

Will be in touch...............

rroyce10

... What courses have you played .....?

Terry.

ncelk

I have played The Carolina with my brother in law, but it tears me up (the sand).
He also really enjoys Pinehurst #3.

I really like Stoney Creek between Burlington, NC and Greensboro off Hwy 40. But is a LOOOONG course...............I spend all day there saying, "if I could just hit it a little farther"........

hfang

Many thanks for your help regarding the 540i- (and previously with my GS400 last december); just agreed to a truly immaculate 2003 540i Sport w/6spd manual, CPO, 41K miles, Sterling Grey on Black, everything except nav, for $36K; the dealer is giving me $15K for my 2000 GS400 w/73K miles (which didn't sound so bad since you said last december that trade on my car was about $17-18K)- Thanks again!

rroyce10

..... I played the Carolina a few weeks ago ... a *superb course* and I loved it ... there's no doubt, it's challenging to say the least and in my opinion the 2nd hardest next to that fat daddy killer: Tobacco Rd -- if you don't do sand, then you'd hate it .. the nice thing is, you can drive your cart on it ..l.o.l.... we played a course in "Bama" on the Trent Jones Trail that was ~~ 8,100 yards .... yep, you read it right: eight thousand one hundred yards .. I should have packed a lunch, and dinner, and a snack, and some ho-ho's, maybe some Snickers ...... :P

Terry.

rroyce10

....... Difference was $21,000 .......?

Sounds like a deal to me .... it's tumbleweed time and I would rather have my $$ in a $15,000 Lexus than paying the floorplan on a $36 anything ..... you did Good.!

Terry.

achenator

UPDATE: Bought a new 06 this week, ALOT of car for the money. Everyone thinks its a $45 car. LOVE IT!

woodyww

Hopefully it was a good deal for both?? I'm sure a lot of people here could make a very strong case for keeping/buying the Lexus, & selling--or not buying--the 540i with 41K miles. (I won't give my personal opinion as the deal is done). But, hfang, enjoy the 540i 6sp Sport, that is a "dream vehicle" for a lot of people, including me.

hfang

W- you are absolutely right from a logical or practical perspective, which is what made the decision so difficult. The GS400 was in good shape and very reliable, quiet and comfortable, but just was not a "fun" car to drive. I had a 5 series before (back in '01) and it was awesome, but got the GS for practical reasons (auto tranny, reliability); but I'm ready to go back. BUt that's why it had to be CPO'ed, relatively new, w/the new sport pack. It's way more fun to drive, and maintenance costs should be pretty low for the next 4 years! WHen it comes cars, it's really very simple. No one really needs anthing more than a new Civic, Camry or Accord, or perhaps a pickup. Everything else is excessive. No one needs a lexus, or bmw, and any extra cost spent over $25K is "unnecessary", which is what made the decision to get the BMW difficult. And if we were all logical beings, eg Spock or Data, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc would all be out of business-

woodyww

hfang, darned good analysis of what a lot of us car nuts go thru. It's great you got the CPO, & the SPP. For a long time, I had these crusty Scottish mechanics down the street from me who worked on my then-bmw. One day I was in there, & the owner had just worked on, then driven an E-34 540i. (And for my money, the E-39 is a huge improvement). He said, in this great scottish brogue, "Aye.....it's like a Rocket Ship!".

ghulet

Thanks for the advice...were the last VIN digits on that unit you saw at the ARENA lease auction 67737? If so, that's the one (how many could there be, right?). Wow, remind me never to put 80k on a Mercedes in four years! Talk about bad resale, they bought that for $13,9, eh? I'll let her know, if she hasn't changed her mind, it hasn't sold, or she hasn't become disinterested again (she's been 'talking'--and little else--about buying a new car for the past two or three years). No rush, I guess, hers is only 18 years old. :surprise:

tencom

Bill,
Will you please help me figure out my trade-in value for my 05 CRV-EX with 12,350 miles ?
Thanks,
Tenco

steine13

Bill won't, since he hasn't been seen in these parts for years... Terry might, but not unless you provide him with the necessary information. Use the handy-dandy list below the most recent post as your guide.
And don't forget your location; very important for any kind of 4WD vehicle.
-Mathias in MI, where it snowed another couple of inches last night.

cosanostra

WHen it comes cars, it's really very simple. No one really needs anthing more than a new Civic, Camry or Accord, or perhaps a pickup. Everything else is excessive. No one needs a lexus, or bmw, and any extra cost spent over $25K is "unnecessary", which is what made the decision to get the BMW difficult.

I agree with woodyww that is an excellent analysis of car buying and its exactly what makes any car buying tough for me as well. :sick: I'm currently chomping at the bit to replace my Camry and having a hard time justifying getting something more "unnecessary" if you will.

bdc2020

Just wondering how this forumn works...I posted all my info for my 2001 GMC aways back and others have followed, but only occasionally do I see a reply from Terry regarding trade in values. Just wondering if he only picks and chooses those vehicles he wishes to investigate - or is he just backlogged with requests?

thanks,
-brian

mirth

You have to add the words "clubs", "birdie", and "19th hole" to your posts to attract Terry's attention - he hasn't been taking his ADD meds you see.

Seriously, just keep reposting. It'll happen eventually. He has a day job too I've heard...

tencom

Folks,

I'd appreciate your input on this scenario.

I'm trying to trade-in my excellent 05 CRV-EX with 12,300 miles on it.

KBB reported on Dec12 FOR 12300 mi AT $19,050

Edmunds reported ON Dec 12 for 12000 mi $19,009

However, on Dec 5, I checked Edmunds appraisal for 13000 mi and is reporting 19,534 ??? Is this possible ???

Also, the Resale Values by Edmunds:
$16,236 - $20,200

I have been to 6 dealership now, no one is willing to give me $20,000 for my SUV. The best offer I'm getting is $18,500 or 18,000 at the most it is 17,500 or $17,000.

Why are dealer buying it so low and yet getting at least $4,000 when they put it on the Market

Your comments are very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Tenco

qbrozen

Why are dealer buying it so low and yet getting at least $4,000 when they put it on the Market

well, first off, this has been discussed to death.

2nd of all, why do you think they are "getting at least $4k"??

Do you know what they ultimately sell it for? no. you only know what the "asking price" is. after they buy it from you, they need to detail it, maybe certify it, etc. then, while its sitting there, they are paying floorplan on it, etc. And, in the end, mr. carbuyer gets them to knock $1k or $2k or whatever off the price. How much would you prefer they make on the car?

volvodan1

"Why are dealer buying it so low and yet getting at least $4,000 when they put it on the Market"

Well............. maybe because they are in busines to make a profit. Buy low, sell high. It's not just the stock market! Where are you getting that they are making $4,000? I'm sure yours is perfect and needs nothing, but most cars nedd at least $4-500+ in reconditioning. And that's on the low side. Also they are probably going to discount it some when they sell it. They may make $2-3000 on it. That's how they stay in business.

Put all of your info about your CRV in this discussion and Terry will give you a #. You'll prolly need to sell it yourself to get the jack you are looking for. Plus, it may not be worth it because of tax savings.

tencom

Folks, Thank you for your expert opinion on this matter.

Here's the details of my SUV. Let's start the ball rollin'

Thanks a LOT !

Location: Chicago, IL
Year/Make/Model: 2005 Honda CRV-EX
Body Style: 4DR
Engine: 3.5 liter V6 Automatic
Driveline: FWD AWD
Mileage: 12,300
Color: [exterior - Red Salsa /interior - Beige ]
Major Options: alloy wheels, Sun Roof
Condition:
Interior is perfectly clean
Exterior: NO DENTS/dings or scrathes
Tires are 8 months old
Brakes are excellent
No insurance claims

sbell4

looks like it should be worth between $17000-$18500 in your area (wholesale).

kfranci2

You've got a problem here, guy. Either you've got a CRV with a 2.4L 4 cyl or you've got a Pilot with a 3.5L V6. There's no mix and match available!

tencom

Good Catch Kfranci2 ! thanks for bringing it up.

Here's the complete package

4WD EX
• 156-hp, 2.4-liter, 16-valve i-VTEC® engine
• 5-speed auto transmission
• 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS
• Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®) with traction control
• Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and brake assist
• Dual-stage, dual-threshold front airbags
• Front side airbags with passenger-side Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS)
• Side curtain airbags with rollover sensor
• AM/FM/XM Ready®†/6-disc in-dash CD changer/cassette audio system with 6 speakers
• Air conditioning with air-filtration system
• Power windows, mirrors and door locks
• Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System
• 60/40 split rear sliding fold & tumble seats
• Remote entry system
• Real Time™ 4-wheel-drive system
• Power moonroof with tilt feature
• 16" alloy wheels, including spare
• Steering wheel-mounted audio controls
• Exterior temperature indicator
• Rear privacy glass
• Body-colored power side mirrors

rroyce10

.... Thanks for the update ... enjoy your Christmas, oops' can't say that anymore ... Happy Holidays ... naaaw I like Christmas better ...

Terry.

rroyce10

.. **Hi-

Raleigh, NC

2001 GMC Sierra 1500 Extended Cab
(4 door - the 2 rear are swing out)
5.3L V-8 w/Automatic transmission
4WD (Z-71 Package)
41,000 miles
[Color] Pewter Exterior / Dark Grey Cloth Interior
[Options] 4WD w/Auto trac, Z-71 Offroad, Factory Towing Package, Power Windows, Locks, Mirrors, Cruise, Tilt, Running Boards and Tonneau Cover, AM/FM/CD, Privacy Glass
[Condition]
Interior is basically spotless.
Exterior: This is what will kill me probably, has had 3 incidents - All when I wasn't even in the car. Front plastic air dam has 2 broken mounting tabs. Rear bumper was replaced and tailgate painted when wife backed into neighbors car as they both were backing out at the same time. The biggest, is the left rear panel of the pickup bed was totally replaced when GMC DEALER hit a light pole in their parking lot while it was in for service. Stupid kid floored it on wet pavement and the back end swung out and hit the pole.

[TIRES] 2 front have about 10,000 miles left. Rear are fine for at least another 20,000.
Thanks in advance.
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Did someone mention golf ....??

... did I hear the "swiiiiish" of a 460cc carbon driver smacking the heck out of a 430 dimple ball.? .. did I hear that sweet sound of a #4 hybrid iron whaling that little sucker 200 yrds and hitting the fringe of the green and rolling inside of 3 ft of the pin ... no.?? .. then lets talk car stuff ....

Raleigh ....? .. about 50 miles north of Pinehurst ..l.o.l...

I don't have any particular order of answering anything ... between my accordion lessons, getting into the Nationals with the Dog Dancing thing and getting my ballet shoes ready for the Christmas pageant I get tied-up ... so always REPOST, it's a good thing .. besides all that, I have the attention span of an aspharugus .... hmmm, what was I talkin' about.??

3 accidents ...? .. have you thought about dropping it off at one of the parking lots at Duke with the keys in it...? lots of bad Karma here ...... it's an 01 GMC Sierra half-ton Ecab SLE 4wd with 41k and some doors ... we got the Z package, auto, no hydes - no help, boards, cover, tunes, solar glass, good color combo and it's little light in the rubber department, but it probably weighs an extra 200lbs with all of the paint work ..l.o.l...

hard to put a figure on this without really seeing it ... But ~ "Depending" on the finish work (and let's be honest, they don't shoot trucks like they shoot a Porsche) I wouldn't worry about the airdam, but get it fixed .... trade side, in and around the super tall $13's low/mid $14's ..... the 5.3 V8, the 4wd and the low miles save this one - hopefully ..

Don't forget to let me know .........

Terry.

rroyce10

.. **were the last VIN digits on that unit you saw at the ARENA lease auction 67737? ..**



You want me to do your Christmas shopping for ya also..? ... pull a Carsmack.!

Terry.

aaron_t

Still looking for Trade and PP recommended amounts:

Sterling Heights, MI (Detroit Metro)
2003 Ford F-150 Supercrew Lariat 4x4
5.4L/auto
33500 miles
(no sale)Dark Green out, tan leather in
Options: moonroof, captains chairs, heated front seats, power pedals, power rear slider, LSD, FX4 off road package, towing package
Extras: side steps, soft bed cover, 2-way remote starter, plastic drop-in bedliner, 3M Scotchcal hood/roof
Tires - 33" BFG AT's 50%
Brakes original and solid
Oil changes 3000-3500
All service records which have been minimal
Body perfect - no dings

I'm interested in trade in and private party values should be.

Thanks!

stickguy

Got one last trade offer on my tC. Actually swapped numbers on a new Legacy, and they topped out on a trade in price at $12,500, and beyond that seemed ready to let the deal walk.

After hitting a few dealers, they were all consistant, so mid 12s seems to be the rack rate in this area for a trade.

I'll troll it out on retail road a bit (not exactly fun 10 days before Xmas, and during a cold snap), but I'm not expecting much to happen.

So, looks like no new car for Xmas, but at these prices, I could probably keep it another 6-12 months and get just about as much for it.

Or, I can wait for mid-winter and monitor the subvented lease market, looking for a deal too goof to pass up...