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Where did you get your numbers?
You said $8500 for the Mazda; Carmax has already offered me $13,000; even the BMW dealer offered $11,000.
Your numbers on the 1er are relatively close to other online sources.
Your estimate on the M3 retail price is off by just about $12,000(looking at KBB and Edmunds).
Thanks for your estimates, but that's why I asked for help from people in the business.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Let's at least leave the estimating to those who have experience or access to information. Thanks.
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I just went over your info and I realized I totally misunderstood them..Regarding the Mazda-I was thinking of the Mazdamazda3 and not the Mazdaspeed3..
And the M3- I - I was thinking the regular 3 series convertible/coupe.
And thankfully I was thinking the correct 1 series here--so more accurate I guess. :P
Too many confusing similar names and numbers !
Once again, apologize for my misunderstanding!!
How the car is equipped makes a difference. IMO, the German manufacturers haven't figured out how to integrate sophisticated electronics into a car, so I wouldn't buy any German car with factory nav. (Then again, the aftermarket units give you much more for your money.) And it goes without saying that a 3-series should be equipped with a stick.
Follow those simple rules & you won't have any significant problems.
Regards, DQ
Location: North Texas
2003 Acura MDX (Base)
4dr SUV
AWD
75K miles
White exterior/gray interior
I would say interior is in "Clean" condition on the TMV scale
Exterior may be "Rough" (skin on rear passenger door was damaged in low-speed parking incident and needs to be replaced; rear bumper cover, also damaged in low-speed parking incident, needs to be replaced; good condition otherwise)
No idea on age of tires, but they appear to be in very serviceable condition
Brakes were replaced 10K miles ago
Also, should I get the door/bumper repaired before trying to trade it in? Everything I've read suggests not to, but I'm always happy to hear additional views on the subject.
Otherwise, here's my short list....
2003-2006 Saab 9-5
2006 Hyundai Azera
2001-2002 Mazda Millenia
2003-2004 Volvo S80 T6
Clean- $9797
Average- $7970 ($1786 less)
Rough- $7039 ($2700 less)
I would get a few trade-in appraisals from dealers AND a few repair quotes also- BUT ONLY FROM certified Honda/Acura body shops! Letting some hack try to repair the damage could only make it worse in terms of diminishing the value! I suggest going to the body shop a some Honda dealers. They're typically less expensive than Acura dealers, in my experience.
A while back, Del told us the technique he uses (I cannot remember exactly, but it was using autotrader searches, iirc). It's not Mannheim reports - which he does not have access to, but it sounded pretty good to me.
With Max out of commission for a while, Del's "guesses" should be welcome here.
Cheers -Mathias
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I tend to stay quiet unless someone is asking about a Miata or a Subaru, for instance. Then I'll chime in and offer my 2 cents' worth.
It really was in very nice shape other than that door, and perhaps we could have done better with a private party sale if we had had it repaired, but I thought Carmax's offer was very reasonable and they made the process dead simple.
I am thinking about replacing my car and I'd like to get an idea of what I could actually get on trade for it, since the values on the web vary widely.
It's a 2006 Scion xA, 48k miles, I'm the original owner. I'd call it average condition, paint is clean except for one touch up on the front passenger side bumper about an inch long, interior has a little normal wear and tear but is clean as well. Alloy wheels, aftermarket cruise and antitheft (not available as options on this car).
KBB tells me it's worth $5779, NADA gives me $7400 as an average trade in value. Obviously that's a big difference. If I can really get $in the $7k range I will trade it in immediately, if it's going to be $4k I'm going to keep it.
Any advice?
I'm looking to trade in my jeep wrangler. I was offered $11,000 already at one dealer.I still think its worth more. Any help thanks.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/1570938248.html
2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 4x4 46k miles hard and soft top. I ordered with all the options so its basically the same as a sahara. Never driven in snow and kept mostly in a garage. Its in excellent condition
Only accept bids from bidders with a history and require immediate deposit [nonrefundable] or it goes to the next highest bidder. Actually - checked ebay and the 11k the dealer offered looks pretty fair. You would be fortunate to get another 1-2k and it could take 6 months to sell it yourself. Sad but true. Many of the people who want your jeep can't afford it. Those that can afford 14k will look at a newer one for a bit more money. It's a real pain to sell yourself -- creeps and crooks getting into your life isn't worth a grand or two imo.
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Vmax gave me a value and said that that was the bare minimum I could get. And I was confident after that , that I could atleast get that much . He also said that a Honda dealer could give more than other dealers b`cos they may want it more.The dealer ultimately gave more bcos he said that as the van had only 600 miles and barely new,he could sell it as a certified Honda. And I really appreciate Vmax and others` help. And I am still on Edmunds forums-b'cos of this thread !! And I just feel like helping out with a calculated number,an educated number - a guesstimate. The point is to be within a grand of the real world trade value as then folks wont think the dealer is ripping them off or lowballing them.B`cos many of the times the difference in the customer`s expectation and the dealer`s offer can be 3k or sometimes even more and can lead to bad blood and feelings of mistrust. :P
Ans as I had already said , I mistook the Mazda speed 3 for a regular Mazda3 and the M3 convertible for a regular 3 series. Must say, Mazda and BMW have the most confusing number names out there with so many configurations of numbers !! :confuse:
07 yaris hb
auto,fwd-26,100 miles
red-still under warranty
oil changes, tires rotated on schedule
a/c,cd,power windows and locks
no accidents or damage
just went and drove a mercury mariner 2010-dealer offered me $4,000 for my car. said toyotas are now worthless as trades
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
Case in point: I"ll give you $4,200 for it!
Seriously, that's not a hot seller new or used, and the street price is only around $12-13 new; but there's no way that car ain't worth $6,500 wholesale so long as it's clean. Might be worth a grand or two more, I don't know. Craigslist is your friend here, I think.
I think it's safe to say the dealer really doesn't want it on his lot.
-Mathias
That said, you must realize you're picking a hell of a time to trade in ANY Toyota, and naturally dealers are taking wild advantage of this fact. I think you could find someone who'd give you more like $6-7k for your car, maybe try to sell it privately, or wait til this whole thing blows over.
Mercury Mariners aren't exactly flying off showroom floors; if you're selling the Yaris out of panic, please try to resist. :sick:
I disagree. I wouldn't want to touch any Toyotas for at least 7-10 years after this type of mess up. High gas price doesn't kill people but run-away Toyotas do.
Actually, my brother in law is thinking about trading in his 5 months old '10 Camry but I told him to keep it as of right now and use the car on local roads only.
My uncle was thinking about getting a new '11 Sienna but he changed his mine when he heard about the recall.
High energy prices kill plenty of people, though not in the US of A.
"Unintended acceleration" of one kind of another has had its rare occurrences, plus a lot of hype, but one thing hasn't changed:
Jump on the brake, HARD. And you will come to a stop, just like always.
Car & Driver just did a test on this, and found it's not a big deal so long as you push the brakes like you mean it.
It's bad enough we all run around with 200+ hp engines because most people are afraid to push the accelerator more than halfway down... now we can't be expected to brake hard, either?
From my MI perspective, it sure is a change of pace to have bad news in the auto industry and the domestics are not the culprit... but I don't think this is as big a deal as it's made out to be.
Cheers
-Mathias
There are a few SUV/CUV comparison threads here; check 'em out if you don't want to wait for Toyota's current problem to be resolved.
And FWIW I had a late '80s Mercury Topaz that had a similar issue to what Toyota is going through; the engine would suddenly rev towards the red line. I could be riding the brake on the highway to hold it at 55. F/L/M issued a recall but only for cars equipped with an automatic; mine was a manual. At least I was better able to manage the problem by shifting to Neutral or downshifting to lessen the effect. If I had been more savvy back then I'd have raised a stink with Customer Service to get the fix on my car (IIRC it was a replacement ECU), but that car was so unreliable that I dumped it instead.
I dont know if you like minivans,but they can carry people,haul lots of stuff and get decent mileage. Also if you have access to CR,check out the reliability ratings of a model you decide to buy..The new Hyundai Santa Fe is pretty good but it has poor resale value,so a used 1 or 2 yr old model will be a bargain.Nissans have become famous for bad brakes and rotors with rotors needing to be replaced at 20k mile intervals.
As said before,just look in the SUV/CUV comparison threads here and you can get a good idea.. Either way,,good luck on your car hunt..Keep us posted !! :shades:
Turned out to have a bad throttle position sensor...it was a $45 fix, and the car was NOT dangerous with the problem, just a little exciting to drive. And it's still on the road...it probably developed this problem about 145k miles ago.
We no longer have it, but my grandfather's still driving it.
It's definitely not an problem exclusive to toyota, it's just the fuss that was made over that big car accident in california (which turned out to not even have the problem being discussed) though i was stunned to see toyota stop production. I had been considering a matrix but I'm buying a new car now, and if they don't want to sell cars, then I won't be buying one. Their loss, as I really loved my current Scion (basically a toyota echo.)
I am really bummed that the recall may force me to keep the car-- It is no longer meeting my needs (too small) and I really do need something larger. I should have traded it last month. Darn.
I'll offer $4300 on that Yaris. We should have an auction right here.
The Sienna isn't even included, and all you gotta do it slap any of the affected cars in to neutral.
Tell your brother in law I'll give him half what he paid for his new Camry sight unseen.
This panic may actually create some great deals. Anyone have an old Land Cruiser they want me to take off their hands for free? :shades:
It was a cop driving a Lexus ES loaner which had the floor mats from the wrong model!
Still, the media got the audio for a 911 call and it's been a frenzy ever since.
Hmm, I have a scratch on my front bumper, maybe I can get a new one for free.
SUDDEN ACCELERATION! I want a new bumper please!
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...not yet. :P
Anyways, there're those who always buy Toyotas regardless of this recall. They might even get mad now b/c they cannot go and get their Camry. However, there's no doubt that this recall will cause some people to run away from Toyotas.
Chrysler took an 8% overnight from ALG on residuals when they declared bankruptcy.
I wouldn't be surprised if Toyotas took a 5% hit, even the ones not affected because of the reputational damage to the brand.
Like I said, if anyone has an older 4Runner or Land Cruiser they want taken off their hands, for safety's sake, lemme know!
Again, not to place blame on the drivers, necessarily; you would think a cop, of all people, would know to put it in neutral, or do something different to control the car, if your family is riding along and it's surging past 100mph. I feel sorry for his family, though.