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BMW 7-Series 2006 and earlier

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  • bwhbwh Posts: 76
    Okay I have read enough posts so that I am ready to dive in. My wife drives a 740iL, spectacular machine, great power, great sound , great handling , great ride ultimate luxury. We have taken it on two 5000 mile 10 day trips and this car has never dissappointed. The room in back is great, I have 3 yr old twins in bulky car seats, plenty of room even with the seats back for my 6'3" frame. I also did the SUV thing, Mercedes Benz Gelandewagen, really cool for a truck. Couldn't stand driving a truck everyday, couldn't pry the 740 from my wife, bought an older 944 Turbo. Fast little car, I joined PCA and plan to run it on the track. Thats my fix, you need them ALL! Really though the 740 has been a great car for us, it is one of the finest cars I have ever driven. The new S500 Mercedes trumps it but at a hefty premium in price. My 95 740iL now has 85k miles on it, we have put on 30k in a year. I had a couple problems, ruptured heater hose(stranded), lower control arms(ball joints) but no electrical problems. As a matter of fact make it a point to get the stereo with the DSP and 14 speakers, it is the best I have ever heard.
  • carman_00carman_00 Posts: 2
    My parents have a 97 740iL. They have every option on there car except NAV System. They Love it. It is responsive, comfortable, sleek and of course the ultimate driving machine. If I had to buy any vehicle I would buy another 740 or 750iL. To add to my pack of X5 and M5
  • steve740steve740 Posts: 1
    I've owned my 95' for about 2 years now. It was under warranty up until recently (thankfully). Although I love the car I am disappointed by the quality. Under warranty I've had all 4 control units replaced, stereo, power steering hoses, multiple rear and brake lights. Not under warranty I've had to replace the fuel pump and water pump. Currently I have 60K miles on it. My latest problems is a rattling somewhere on the driver's front side. The interesting thing about the rattle is I've only notice it on hot days (and it's not because the window is down). Does anyone have an idea on what the problem is?

    One more thing, how can they get away with not publishing manuals? This should be against the law!!!! I can't even attempt to trouble shot the problem or educate myself on a diagnosed problem.

    All help is appreciated.
  • wahoo69wahoo69 Posts: 2
    Car is loaded, dealer I know taking on trade, can get car for 45K.

    Is this in the ballpark? Haven't been in market!

    Thanks.
  • wahoo69wahoo69 Posts: 2
    Car is loaded, dealer I know taking on trade, can get car for 45K.

    Is this in the ballpark? Haven't been in market!

    Thanks.
  • Just had a PA inspection at the dealer on a '98 740iL. New brakes all around(pads, rotors turned, bled fluid) came to $1000 alone. Total bill was $1900 including oil change, radiator flush and spark plugs. Car has 38K miles. I know they are expensive cars but that is pretty hard maintenance costs for 38,000 miles.
  • beelinesbeelines Posts: 1
    I am looking at a 750iL with 170K miles for $10,500. Any advice?
  • Yeah,run,don't walk...and scream at the top of your lungs..."I used my head instead of my hormones"!
  • Ouch is right. Find another place for your service...the pricing you report is beyond obscene. The same exact work you reported was just under a $1000 on my Benz and the work included replaced front rotors(not turned old ones).
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    I dont know the exact condition of the car, but if I were in the market for a 10000 car, i would run away from any expensive exotic import, esp a BMW- the engine is built with silicone injected walls, used in all V configured BMWs and will wear prematurely. i dont know if yours was already replaced, but as you can imagine, it is expensive. also, BMW electrical units in the old cars are prone to problems. even if a mechanic says it is ok to buy, still be weary. if i were you, i'd consider a late model mediums sized car. only if you were buying a new 750il or a 2 year old car would i consider it. they are great cars until they need to be fixed, then they become a cash cow.
  • ulmerulmer Posts: 2
    Considering purchasing 1997 BMW 740iL, with 110,000 miles from corporate lease (salesman) Most highway miles. Asking price via company is $26,000 to 27,500. Need help in determining whether this car is worth the above price, without any manufactures warrenties. Miles seem to be high for 1997 and wondering what expenses I should expect if I purchase it.
  • jrm25ttjrm25tt Posts: 2
    the bmw 7-series is a pretty good car. i am glad they did a little makeover. however, you would have to be out of your mind to purchase either a bmw 740iL or 750iL over the new mercedes-benz s500. even when you compare the v8 s500 with the v12 750iL, the benz shines. It is considerably quicker. Also, the s500's exterior and interior design is outrageously better than the 750iL's. In fact, the bmw's interior is pretty darn ugly, and the exterior design can't compare with the benzes. Not to mention the benz has a lot more gizmos and seat comfort (i've sat in both) and it is a little cheaper as well. overall, the bmw 7-series is a good car only overshadowed by the phenomenal benz S500.
  • bunky3bunky3 Posts: 8
    I shouldn't be here, I don't have a 7 series, but I'am a big fan. For those of you who feel MB's are better(post 164) you better take a 2nd look, and maybe a drive.I can say this with a degree of confidence because I've had both.

    I've not had a S500, or a 750, but, I swapped a 99 c class for a 2k 3 series. The Mercedes wasn't even in the same league as the bimmer. Now I can't attest to the larger siblings, but I bet it runs in the family.

    If you want a car to just say you own something, buy a Benz, if you want to "drive" a car, buy a BMW!

    Thanks for letting me post on your(7series) topic.

    bunky3
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    yeah, i suppose a 98 design is going to perform better than a 94 design. why dont you test drive a new C class against your 3 and see which is better then. it wont be so obvious.
  • ulmerulmer Posts: 2
    BMW 540i , interested in purchasing a 1998 or 99 540i. Question what a decent price would be for either yr. model with 15,000 to 20,000 miles. All options included. Please respond.
  • bunky3bunky3 Posts: 8
    I had a "99" C class, thats pretty new, when comparing it to a 2k. version, isn't it, at least I think it is. Mercedes did make alot of changes on the new C, one was ridding the car of the atrocious reciprocating ball steering system.I'd like to drive a new on, it would be interesting.
  • jrm25ttjrm25tt Posts: 2
    So we meet again. I know you've had a C-Class benz and a 3-Series BMW. Regarding those two cars, I think the BMW absolutely murders the Benz. It's better in just about every single area. I love the BMW 3-Series, and i do not even like the mercedes-benz c-class. In fact the 3-series is better than all the competition. However, you cannot really compare the S-Class mercedes and the BMW 7-Series with the benz C-Class and BMW 3-Series. They are completely different cars. So, if you think only BMW cars are "Drivers Cars" just because you owned a sorry c-class, think again. The S500 has phenemonal performance that "Car and Driver" said had a cloud-nine ride, yet fleet of foot; V-12 performance with a V8 price. It also said that the S500 strikes them as the best luxury car that smart money can justifiably buy. It said it was smoother than the ultra-luxurious $200,000+ Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph. Not to mention it's quicker than a Porsche Boxster, and is the leader in gizmo technology. The BMW 7-Series cannot compare with those amazing accolades. It's a good car in major need of a redesign. As for the Benz C-Class, that is a sorry car, not anything like the Benz S500.The phenomenal 3-Series bimmer is a phenemonal car, the leader of its class, arguably the best sedan south of $40,000. The bmw 7-series, however, is not the leader of the pack, is not the best sedan under $100,00, and is not a phenemonal car. You see not all bmw cars are the same and not all mercedes are the same. You were right: the bmw 3's are better than the benz c's. Yet, the bmw 7's are not better than the benz s, not in luxury, value, performance, nor looks.
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    yeah, is believe your brand new 1998 redesigned 3 is better than the 1994 designed C.. 4 years is a long time...but wait in a few months and test the new C. most car magazines say that the driving and handling are at least on par with the 3 if not better! FYI why did you buy the C if you hated it? the new 3 series were already released in 1998.
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    learn to read. i know your car is a 99 but it was designed and is essentially the same as the 1994 models but with more equipment. the fundamental elements of the car are the same as the 94. it seems frivolous to compare brand new designs to ones that are about to be replaced.
  • bunky3bunky3 Posts: 8
    I didn't hate my C class, as a matter of fact I loved it until I lived with it for a while, I couldn't get used to the recip. ball steering, they now have rack and pinion, it's a matter of fact that mercedes likes to stay with tried and true designs, no matter what it does for the car, positively or negatively. Show me in my posts where I said I hated it. As far as my reading skills, I do pretty well, however, I'am not that great at reading between the lines, so keep it simple, I'am only an artist, and you know our intellegience quotient.
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    are you going to test drive the new C class? it looks like promising competition to the 3 series, and most Euro reviews state that the car is actually more sportier than the 3 series!!!
  • bunky3bunky3 Posts: 8
    Now, come on. How do you expect me to do someting like that, without wanting one! A miniature "S", I knew the minute I traded for the bimmer, they'd (mb)do something like this.

    I missed your point when you compared the two designs. However, even though the 230 design was a few years old, you couldn't compare a 99 with say a 97, they even made updates to the car right up to the 2k model,(esp)then became standard.Now with the 01 model, I think they are gonna give bmw a race. I loved the mb feel, a truely solid car, the doors closed with a thud, and not some tinny sound. Geez I realized what topic we are in, I'll see you over in the 3 series topic, the people here have been gracious in letting us post.

    bunky3
  • ferarri11ferarri11 Posts: 91
    the extra equipment MB adds doesnt really help the car be better , just more palatable pricewise. the 94 is the same as the 99 but with different features, more in the 99 hopefully. the overall driving dynamics, room are the same.
  • pflaumpflaum Posts: 13
    I took my 740i Sport to Heartland Park in Topeka for the KC BMW Club Driver's School. I was a little apprehensive bringing such a large car to the track and my misgivings rose when I noticed that the parking lot was full of m3s, porsches and other fast, little hot rods.

    The beast did well, however. Yes, the M3s and Porsches were far too nimble and fast for the big 7 but the 323s weren't nor did most 328s fare better. When the chief instructor took it out for a spin during an instructor's slot, nothing short of an M3 kept up with the beast.

    The most interesting aspect of the weekend was the reaction of other drivers to seeing a big, 4300 pound sport-luxury sedan move around the track with surprising speed and agility. Every instructor who drove with me commented on how suprisingly agile and competent the car was as did many of the drivers of the little hot rods.

    RX7 guy, you are wrong! The 740 Sport is a very competent automobile and can prove itself on the track. Of course, now I am wondering what it would be like in an M5.

    Chris
  • pflaumpflaum Posts: 13
    I leased mine in March. The price point on the lease was about $1000 over invoice.

    Chris
  • dphamdpham Posts: 3
    I got 63,375 from a dealer for a Titanium Silver 740i Sport with Convience Package and heated front seats. From my calculation it's about $600 over invoice. That's for a purchase and not lease.

    David
  • Well, Tedf2, you will be glad to know you thoroughly discouraged me from any consideration of a 740. I have been enamored of this car for a long time, as the 500 series (except the wagon) has so little back seat room. Cars this expensive are hard to justify anyway, and I am just prefer to watch my hard earned money grow a little in mutual funds--John Ellis, MD (Richmond, VA)
  • Any one has experience on dead battery after over 10 days not driving the car?

    Any battery problem of any kind?
  • Any one knows what would be changed in the 2002 model?
  • is4b2rdis4b2rd Posts: 66
    The 2002 will be completely new, and will be one fantastic vehicle. It will out-(high-tech) the MB S-Class for sure.
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