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I think they are pretty good cars. They do suffer from poor resale when compared to Honda and Toyota.
:-( .. what a sad story.
I stopped in at 8:05 and left at 8:55 (pm). During that time I must have lapped the showroom floor at least 10 times. Not one employee stopped to ask if they could be of assistance. There were no brochures available for further info. There was no employee stationed at the reception desk. It appeared that most of the employees were enjoying a lengthy dinner break in the back office (McDonalds actually).
Once I returned to my home, I called the 800 # for Mitsubishi and asked about other stores. As luck would have it, the nearest is some distance away and in an unfriendly neighborhood. Like it or not, if I buy a Mitsubishi, it will have to come from Bell. What really agitates me is that I suspect that this evening's service (or lack thereof) was a harbinger of the sales and repair service to come.
Has anyone had any experience(s) with Bell Mitsu in NJ????
After reading Edmunds price info for an ES 4 cyl, I figure a good price to pay with delivery is around 17,000 to 17,100 + TTT. Anyone in NJ have any financial info to share? Also, does anyone have anything to say about the brake lever hitting the right knee? Or about a VERY prominent (unadjustable) lumbar support?
Dave
My 2000 Galant ES is about a month old and I've driven it about 1900 miles. The position and knifelike composition of the brake lever and the sandwiching effect created by its proximity to the storage area underneath the radio is such a glaringly stupid design flaw that, frankly, it's casting a shadow over my decision to buy the car.
The sales manager from whom I bought the car was excellent, but the service department has already disappointed me by flatly refusing to even address an admittedly minor, but annoyingly obvious hesitation in the V4 engine. Neither the manager nor general store manager would consent to a five minute test drive after I disagreed with their mechanic's finding. Apparently Mitsubishi's mechanics are irreversibly omnipotent. Additionally, I was prohibited from speaking with the mechanic and no one would help me locate a wiring diagram, which I need to install daytime running lights. Needless to say, my complaints regarding the emegency brake lever fell on deaf ears.
I called the toll free number in the owner's manual and explained the situation. They agreed I was treated poorly, stonewalled the brake lever issue, and offered some, but not much, hope that the hesitation problem would ever be addressed.
Having said all that...my gas mileage is consistently 26.5-27.5 mpg (no real highway and no real city driving). The car is very pleasant, has all the options I need, and makes a good impression. Even though I'm *never* completely comfortable in my seat due to the brake lever, and have been treated badly by the dealer's service department, there's a fifty-fifty chance I'd buy the car all over again. If you can get one for $17,500 with zero percent financing plus the usual tax, etc., (not including any cash rebate/incentive)...you're doing okay.
But make sure you can tolerate the position of that painful emergency brake lever!!
If anyone else is bothered by the brake lever please e-mail me at [email protected]. I'm seriously considering taking this up the corporate ladder and there is power in numbers.
regards
~anyone still wanna sell their original 99-00 galant mudguards?
I have not heard of nor seen any Galants with that problem, at least none with less than 150,000 miles on them.
And it seems if you need to find a dealer who is cool to work with, head on down to Raleigh. I had a wonderful experience with Leith Mitsubishi down here. I not only got the car for $250 less than the best price I found on the web, I also got $500 more for my car than I got offered anywhere else on all the other cars I was looking at. And I got the 1.9% for 60 months. Needless to say, I am a happy camper.
I went in the first night to look at Galants in general. They had that GTZ right at the end of the line and I couldn't take my eyes off it. I drove it and was hooked. Told them I would be back the next day with my wife so she could drive it too, but pending her approval, and a successful negotiation I would buy the car. (These things need to be cleared with the boss, you know...) They put a "Sold" sign in the window for me when we got back, much to the chagrin of a couple who had arrived after I headed out for the test drive.
I came back the next day with my wife during lunch and she loved the car as much as I did, so I told them to do the deal, and that I'd be back at the end of the day to sign the paperwork if everything was "in order". They called me at work a short time later to confirm that I did qualify for the lower 1.9% (Which must be pretty easy to get, since our credit is average at best) instead of the higher 3.9%, which I would have been happy to settle for.
So after work, I headed on back over and there is where they did a quick appraisal on my car and offered me $8000 on my base '95 Camaro. Considering it was in far from pristine shape, I was thrilled.
Edmunds said:
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 2 Dr STD Coupe (used)
Trade-In $6,315
Market $8,095
My adjustments didn't change the value more than $200 bucks.
Sooo...... to make this long story a tad shorter, I am driving my new Pearl White 2000 GTZ and loving every minute of it. I am 6'2" and have no problem with that parking brake issue that seems to nag some people. I even tried sitting in different positions to TRY to see what the issue is, but never could get it to be "in the way"
As far as the Lumbar support, maybe it's the leather seats, or maybe it is also my height, but I kinda gave them high marks for it. I think it feels good.
It hasn't been "Perfect". The center console sometimes doesn't snap shut when closed. Dunno why, but it doesn't rattle and it seems to be in place so it doesn't bother me too much.
The other problem was I have already got a speeding ticket. My first in countless years. I was driving home on a back road late at night and just having fun. The cop just didn't share my enthusiasm. *sigh*
- Adam
About the "upgrades & aftermarket toys" that some of us want to do. I have also looked high and low on the net. Here are my finding's.
Go to www.spoilers.com they have got the SETUP for around $1,000.
I personally have upgraded the HL (headlights)with sylvania "cool blue", reshaped the HL with black (color matched) tape (make sure it is weather proof), and working on customizing the front grill to fit my need. I think the color matched grill's look "killer"!! The chrome grill is good but it gives the car a goofy look because there is no separation with the HL. more updates later.
Jon... let me know if there is any more aftermarket sites!!
ATTENTION: the N.C. guy who bought the GTZ, what was your price?
I can see it now,
Mits read all of the negative comments and figured they'd better address them in a positive review.
First talk about what a great car it is.
Then bring in the wife for a female interest story.
Expand upon the car's appeal by mentioning that another potential buyer missed their opportunity when you bought the car in question.
Talk up the dealer by stating that they "Gave" you more for your car than expected.
Dispel the rumors that the brake lever and lumbar support are anything but wonderful.
And then, so as not to come off as too thrilled, mention some silly little problem that nobody would care about (center console snap).
Finally, the icing in the cake: Driving home in a back road and the cop gave me a ticket for speeding. Wow, what a story!!
and how come he did not include the price he paid for his mitsu? every1 here wants to know the price, this is why we are here! also, isn't hard to get gtz v6 engine? dealers don't negotiate much on those b/c of high demand.
We have a 99 Galant ES, one day we parked the car in the morning, came back a few hours later on a hot day, got in the car, turned ON the A/C and for all the sudden a real stinky smell came out of the A/C vents, the smell is still there a two weeks later, we have never smelled that before in the whole time we had this car ( not when either the A/C or the heater is ON), any one knows whats causing this problem?, any one had experienced this problem?, any one with any ideas on how to get ready of this smell?
thanks in advance to all who help
regards
Also, what is a good price for a GTZ on the road?
BTW.. I have no idea what the brake handle thing is about. I have NO problem with my brake handle...
I drove my galant from LA to Chicago and had a great time. NO Problems
OK here's my real storie:
(which may sound fake for some)
-I bouth my 2000 galant back in december 99 , now I only have 800 miles since i don't drive it much, and only thing that bothers me is that I tried to put in Door guards and they don't fit perfectly.
I'm sorry if I sounded like a Mitzu rep. I was just excited about the car. I do love it. And I don't have the problems some of you are having. But I do have a wife that wanted her stamp of approval on any car I chose. We have two small kids and needed a 4 door sedan. (Hence the reason I dumped my Camaro.)
I dunno, maybe I should be worried. I posted a happy post and you all thought it was a fake.
- EpiKGTZ
PS - I paid $23,252 after destination. And you are right, they wouldn't go any lower due to the demand. They told me it was only the 2nd 2000 GTZ they got in, and they don't know when they will get more.
No problems, no noises, etc. so until I hear or experience otherwise (or the gas prices come down) I'm going to stick with the regular.
- EpiK
P.S. The last reliable Mitsubishi product was the aircraft they produced during WWII. Seems to be that Mitsubishi has been a looser ever scince. They made a jet aircraft (TF-1) which couldn't fly. They also build tanks for the Japanese army (10-15 years behind in technology compared to USA and Germany), so I think that Japan is not a threat to the Asia any more. Not with Mitsubishi products...
Questions:
Whats a fair price for this car?
What would be the best place to get it painted at a reasonable price?
Anybody with any answers or any extra tips they can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
It's a 2000 ES 4-cylinder demo with 5000 mi. The options included only the sunroof and leather (not normally available on ES). I upgraded the wheels and tires to 16" alloy through the dealer (Knoxville, TN) for a grand total of $21,200. I purchased in February under the 0 down, 0 payment, 0 interest until 2001 program because I'm currently still a full-time student. The only down side is the 9.9% APR over 5-yrs. The dealer told me I should refinance once I start my job in October -- is this a good idea??
I plan on driving this until it dies so resale value wasn't a consideration. I absolutely love the car but I'm still not sure if I negotiated much of a price. What do you all think?
The important thing is you are happy with the car. Refinance if you can down the road, but do a bunch of research because you may have a hard time finding a better a rate because you will be refinancing a "used" car.
http://www.highwaysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/mid_inexp/galant.htm
Thanks!
I walk into the appointment ON Time, thankyou V6 LS
The car I'm talking about is a black 00 LS customized. The LS with a little customizing, is a classy 4 door rocket. I LOVE IT!!!
Black Lighting
(NOTE- don't try this without proper instruction.)
While awaiting an appraisal at CarMax in MD, I noticed that they sold new Mitsu's. Having as much curiosity as the other, I decided to take a test drive and have been hooked ever since. I was like a kid at Christmas...in under 48 hrs I had a '00 Bodega Beige with tan leather and all options but the 6-disc changer feature. I bought it as Ourisman Mitsu in Marlow Heights through Auto-by-Tel. The communist dealers in MD recently banded to form a lobby against CarsDirect from selling cars here (though you can still lease from them).
I got the car ($200 below invoice), TT & L for just under 23K and have financed the balance at the ridiculous rate of 0.9% APR and have "banked" the rest in a high yield mutual fund. My total finance charges for 4 years is a measly $350!
If you are like my former "non-believing" self, give the Mitsu a T-R-Y. Prior to that, I didn't know anyone with one, had hardly seen them on the road -- more or less -- had never been a passenger in one before.
Yes -- some of the creature features can be improved. No dash rattles, squeaks, or other strange noises yet; however, here is a list that I would e-mail to the '01 design engineers:
1) put a darn dome light in behind the moonroof
2) have another coat hanging hook in the back (the driver's side has the only one)
3) make a no-smoker's option car
4) put in a coin holder
5) illuminate all power window switches
6) make the shared cup-holder/armrest hold exactly the correct # of CD's (currently I have to "jam" the almost-enough-room-for one-more in)
7) key-less trunk access (put a trunk button on the remote)
8) lose the Goodyear shoes
9) make a clock that you can see
10) put some pockets behind the seats
Will these things dissuade me from buying another Mitsu if they don't honor my wishes? Heck no. I'm just an average Joe consumer who watches his almighty $. But if you want a solid runner with a strong engine, good brakes, exceptional comfort at a price well below the others, go with the Mitsu. I am, too, now one of the believers.
Enjoy the summer gang.
As far as aggressive drivers, come and drive on the Capital Beltway (Washington, DC) if you wanna see aggressive. The speed limit is 55, but if you went that speed, you would be pushed off the side of the road and left for dead. I have seen people go anywhere from 70-90 mph, and space enough for them? Please! Half the time, if you look close enough in your rearview mirror, you will be able to see what kinda underwear they have on!
I have noticed a few of the other minor details you mentioned that I would love to see addressed as well. The armrest does hold 1 fewer CD than I keep in my car, so I have to put the extra case in the little compartment under the climate control switches. The problem with that is the compartment is smooth so any type of hard acceleration (very easy to do with a fun car like this) and the CD case comes flying out.
Also, a keyless trunk access option is a must! I'd put that in aftermarket if I knew of anywhere that did it. I play Ice Hockey so it would be such a bonus to be able to simply pop the trunk and toss in my equipment without having to put everything down so I can get the key into the lock. I heard this feature is standard on the Diamante, so put it on the Galant!
Oh well. I'm never be happy unless I have something to complain about. (At least that's what my wife says.)
P.S. If you want a fast 4 cylinder look at VW passat.