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  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    I believed you should buy whatever car suit you best, and not based on what people tell you to buy. Having said that, here's my comparison regarding the corolla vs sentra.
    Engine:
    Pretty much the same, except if you opt for the SE which deliver 140hp. I found the Corolla's 1.8L very capable, with enough thrust to ward off any other econo-compact. Some people however point out the 2001 Corolla is slower than the previous one.
    Handling:
    Sentra beats the corolla in this area. Next to the protege, Sentra probably has the best handling in this class.
    Ride:
    Corolla always at the top when it comes to ride comfort and minimal road noise, something that Sentra cant match. Think of the corolla as mini-camry.
    Passenger space:
    The newly redesign Sentra brings an additional 3 cubic feet of passenger space. Corolla is pretty cramped in the back (my biggest complaint against it).
    Styling:
    Something thats purely subjective. The newly redesign 2001 Corolla put out great sporty styling. The 2001 sentra has sharp styling as well. Pretty much a toss up on this one.
    Fuel Economy:
    Sentra: 26/33 mpg (auto)
    Corolla: 28/36 mpg (auto)
    Reliability:
    Both Nissan and Toyota has excell in reliability in the past. I'm always warry about buying a car in its 1st production year (due to not all bug hasnt been worked out), but thats just me. Both offers a 3/36K bumper to bumper and 5/60K powertrain warranty.
    Value:
    Sentra offers the better value right now, but Corolla offers better resale value down the road. If you keep your car for a long period of time, then Sentra has the upper hand, if you're planning to sell it after a few years, Corolla is best.

    Best of luck with your purchase :)
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    great annalysis. But I heard people still complaining that the rear seat in the Sentra is too cramped as well. I think passanger room wise, both cars have the same room inside, 88 cubic feet if I'm not mistaken. All the other comments are right on!
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    They have the same passenger space ? Oh, I'm not aware of that at all. Its just when I sat on the back of a sentra, its feels roomier than my Corolla. They're both not even close to the Protege though.
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    yeah, the passenger space wise, they are the same. I read in the Sentra, civic, Protege forum that there are complaints about rear leg room in the Sentra. Personally, I only sat in the a 1998 one, so my experience doesn't apply to the 2000 model. But you might very well be right. I need to test drive one some time, but none of my friends have bought a 2000 Sentra yet. :(
  • crieckecriecke Posts: 37
    See the Maint. and Repair/Toyota Corolla Problems
    #255 for more on the ongoing saga of the chipping
    paint.

    If you have this problem please post info there
    and join the thread.

    Thanks, Charlie
  • terceltom1terceltom1 Posts: 150
    You were right about the tires coming to the dealer over inflated. I just picked up my 2001 Corolla with 185/65R14 Goodyear integrity tires and they were at 44 p.s.i. Recommended p.s.i. as listed in the glove box is 30 p.s.i.
    What a great car! Got a black LE loaded with every option Toyota offers except A.B.S. and side airbags. Looks great with the Gold Emblem Package and alloy wheels. Had to wait 6 weeks til the dealer located one for me. Black with all the options and moonroof was hard to find. Paid 2K under sticker of $18,800. Toyota C.D. player sounds really good!
    Thanks for the info on the tires.
  • bcmombcmom Posts: 3
    Just purchased 2001 Corolla CE 5 speed with C option pkg plus keyless/security and block heater. Almost an LE in a 5 speed!. I had a last minute call from a dealer who knocked $711 off my lowest price, and I ended up going with this dealer (my other dealer would not budge on price). Ended up paying $18,800 Cdn which includes PDI, freight, enviro tax, AC tax, documentaton. Just need to add 14% sales taxes.
    Almost bought the Nissan Sentra GXE in 5 speed, but the dealers couldn't even find one for me to test drive, though I did test drive an automatic twice. The price for the Nissan was $18,875 (with all the same options I bought on my Corolla) before PDI, delivery,etc, but I might have been able to knock that down a bit, unless demand for this car is really high.

    Main reason I didn't choose the Nissan Sentra over the Corolla is because the engine didn't look as neat & tidy as the Corolla (Had husband help me out here, as I am not a mechanic). Also, I didn't really like any of the Nissan colours as much as the Corolla choices which is a subjective issue (I chose indigo ink). Also was slightly wary of Nissan "made in Mexico", because I was unsure of their quality control. I checked out the Volkswagon comments site and heard of alot of problems with the Jetta which is made in Mexico as well. Maybe other Nissan owners have not had problems, but my mother-in-law and brother-in-law both own Nissans, and have had their vehicles in the shop for minor problems. Otherwise, Liufei's analysis between the 2 cars matched mine pretty well. Although based on the pricing I got, I received better value for the Corolla than the Nissan.

    Also did not choose the Mazda Protege SE model, (even though it test drove very well) because of poorer fuel economy, and dealer was an hour's drive away.

    Skay2: I hope this info & pricing helps you out a bit when you're shopping (although pricing may not apply if you are in the States). I look forward to picking my car up on Thursday (finally!!) Good Luck!
  • bcmombcmom Posts: 3
    I just reread your message. I hope you paid $18,800 "US$" for the LE loaded, otherwise I just got ripped off for a CE!
  • terceltom1terceltom1 Posts: 150
    Yea mine was $16,800 U.S. plus tax. You'll love it! I do.
  • everydayeveryday Posts: 53
    Hey, I just saw a picture of it the other day...did they steal some styling from the Camry?
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    I think they stole something from the Camry, but also some of that look from Chrysler 300M (good looks is one of Chrysler's strong points).
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    (Not Chrysler's). You'll also see it in the IS300 (nee Altezza).
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    Toyota can put the IS300 engine in the Corolla-S, we are all set to go! :)
  • denniswadedenniswade Posts: 362
    it's an in-line 6. But a 170 hp version of the 4cyl would sure be nice.......
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    Both of you are asking too much. ;)

    But I think putting the 140 hp 1.8L from the baseline Celica into the Corolla-S, then that would be great. It will give the Nissan Sentra SE's engine a run for it's money.

    The Celica's 1.8L engine is based on the Corolla's engine (so I heard). And by sharing parts from multiple models, it shouldn't cost Toyota too much more money. If they are willing to put the celica's engine into the Corolla-S, I will be willing to pay a $1000 premium for it.
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    I dunno about that. Don't think 20hp will justify the extra $1000, nor it will increase performance by much. Now if they put the 180hp 1.8L from the Celica GT-S for 1K, it definitely going to give the Sentra-S and the new Civic-Si a run for the money. Toyota probably need to create a sport suspension for the S line though.

    Won't the inline-6 fit in the Corolla engine compartment?
    (liufei still want to see the IS300 engine in a Corolla) ^_^
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    2000 Corolla: 9.1 secs
    2000 Celica GT (1.8L 140hp): 8.5 secs
    2000 Celica GT-S (1.8L 180hp): 7.6 secs
    All are equipped with manual transmission. Edmund numbers are about 0.3-0.5 secs faster.

    And Wenyue, do you see me driving a Civic EX? :)
    Those Civic prices are too high for a compact car imo. Wonder how loyal those Honda customer are?2001 prices should come down a bit with tough competition from the Corolla,Focus,Protege,
    Sentra,etc.
    I wish Toyota really equipped the S trim to reflect the "Sporty" designation, oh well, cant have everything...
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Anybody who can't squeeze more than .9 seconds out of the GTS doesn't understand how to drive it. That car doesn't begin to get fun until 6000 RPM which is when most people think you need to shift.
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    I guess that was a typo, no car can go from 0-60 in 0.9 secs. :) Maybe 6.9 secs?
    Anyway, those are the only datas I found so far. Toyota website doesnt even offers a 0-60 stats for the sporty sedans (grumbles..grumbles..)
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    Liufei:

    Yeah, those Civic EX are way too expensive. At more than $18K a car, I wonder why those Civic buyers don't just buy an Accord LX instead.

    Here is are two article about the Celica.
    http://cars.about.com/autos/cars/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.motortrend.com/sept99/celica/index.html

    http://cars.about.com/autos/cars/library/weekly/aa100799.htm

    MotorTrend tested the GTS with the 6-spd manual do 0-60 in only 6.6 seconds (wow!) and 1/4 mile in 15.2 seconds. But still no words on the 0-60 for the 140 hp GT. Seems like everyone is falling in love with the GT-S and leaving the GT alone. All the more reason to put that engine into the Corolla-S instead, and just make GTS Celica only.

    I find the Shark like look of the front really pleasing (the back is another story). No wonder Celica is selling like hot cakes. One interesting thing I noticed is that the Celica GT's 140 hp engine has excellent fuel economy. 27/35 mpg with an automatic? That's pretty darn good. Better that most economy cars on the market. They really should throw that engine into the Corolla (in my opinion).
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    Aye sir, but you sure we can't convinced Toyota to at least crank the hp up to 180 for the next generation Corolla? 140 seems quite common now, unless the 140hp will be standard for all Corolla.....and the 180hp will be standard for Corolla-S!!!! (what am I thinking)

    I cant get over the rear arrangement of the Celica either. The front is definitely sharp looking, but the rear mess it up.
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    For the next Corolla, redesign for 2003, I think a 140 hp engine shouldn't be too far fetched. Car's power almost always goes up every generation. But I think there is a finite limit as how high it can go (or it will bump off sports cars).

    140 is more then enough for a mainstream compact car. Right now the only two car I can think of that has 140+ hp is Sentra SE and Elentra. The new 2001 Civic for example will have very modest power gain. Only 115 hp baseline engine, and the EX will only gain 3 hp to 130 hp. Hatch back is also gone. Civic fans will be very disappointed to learn this, and also the vaunted suspension/handling also got down graded.

    With the current Corolla at 125 hp, I hope the 2003 redesign will make it 140+ hp. ;)

    About Celica, I agree. The front looks fantastic, but the rear looks like it ended too abruptly, feel like a section missing.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MUCH hp!!!

    the 180-hp engine would rock in the Corolla (prizm). If Honda can put 170 hp in a civic then its okay for toyota to put 180 in the corolla.

    I'd be waiting with my GM card rebate dollars in hand to snatch one up.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    If you read the previous post, somebody was claiming that the GTS was .9 faster than the GT. I was pointing out that there should be a much bigger difference. It was not a typo but needed to be read in context.
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    you are talking about the Si right? Yeah, but is taking sales away from their own Acura Integra with it's own 170 hp engine.

    I think Toyota could put out a Corolla Coupe version with that 180 hp engine (after all, that engine is based on Corolla engine). It's interesting to see the Corolla is one of the very few models that doesn't have a 2-door version. When was the last time the Corolla had a Coupe version?

    Another thought is that maybe TRD could come out with a sports kit including 180 hp engine (or a Turbo kit that give 60 extra hp) and a sporty suspension.
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    cliffy1:
    misunderstanding in my part. It makes more sense now.

    wenyue:
    I thought TRD already has something for the suspension (not the turbo). Wasn't it denniswade who upgrade his corolla using TRD parts?
    Last time Corolla comes out with a 2dr coupe was in the mid 80s (1986-87) if not mistaken. Guess Toyota afraid a 2dr Corolla will interfere with the Celica/Tercel/Echo sales ? Who knows whats the reasoning behind it.
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    Yes, they have a suspension package for the Corolla, but that's about it. I don't think they have a turbo.

    Hmmm. beats me why Toyota hasn't had Corolla coupe for so long. I hope now that Toyota is getting to the new edge market (Echo, Celica, MR-spyder....), I hope they will introduce a worthy Corolla-S.

    I heard TRD had a race version of the Echo even. Strange...
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    another thing missing is the WAGON!!!!

    I woulda bought a wagon if it had been available.

    I would love a 180hp Corolla/Prizm wagon to tool around in and have good cargo space.
  • liufeiliufei Posts: 201
    Dont even think there's much market for station wagon anymore. Heck, when is the last time I saw more than 1 station wagon in the same street.....?
    Thats too bad though, they offer more versatility for the car.
    And a race version of the ECHO??? What the heck make them do that for???
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The wagon market is now the SUV market. Look for a Corolla based SUV in 2003. It may even be the one Toyota puts the Hybrid system on.
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