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Autoblog seems to think it could be sold by the end of this year.
Notice the "Turbo" on the label!
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I've never actually driven a Cobalt, only sat in a few at auto shows. But, for all the criticism the car seems to draw, I've been impressed with the front seating position. It really does have a big-car feel to it. Now, that might be a turn off for people who want small cars, but I appreciate the fact that it was one of the few small cars that I could truly get comfortable in. It seemed to have plenty of legroom, and the steering wheel and pedals were a decent distance away. The only other small car in recent memory I can think of that was really comfortable to me was, oddly, another car that took a lot of flak...the Dodge Neon!
I'd have to try them both out side by side to refresh my memory, but I seem to remember the Cobalt having a bit more legroom, and it seemed like the seats were a bit bigger and the foot wells were a bit wider than the Cruze. But the Cruze was still more than adequate. The seats in the Cruze had more contouring and bolstering in them, so most people would probably find them more comfortable.
Of course if it comes with a muffler that won't go 200K I don't know..... My 00 Accord is still on its factory muffler. Even I am surprised by that.
They're definitely making exhaust systems better these days, although in areas where they use a lot of salt or other abrasive chemicals, I guess they'll still need replacement sooner.
FWIW, my 2000 Intrepid made it to 150,000 miles and ten years on its original exhaust. I had a new dual exhaust put on my '68 Dart way back in 1993, and the only time it needed replacing was when a motor mount went bad, which caused the engine to sag enough on the passenger side that the steering linkage caught the exhaust pipe and ripped it loose. And that was partly my fault, because I took a raised railroad crossing way too fast, and made the car go airborne!
I've had my '67 Catalina for over 17 years now, and it's never needed any exhaust work in the time I've had it, although I'm sure it was replaced in the past. It usually stays garaged, though.
Now, they were rusty, so it was only a matter of time before they came off anyway. But I imagine that overloading the truck accelerated the process!
The current story is that the Cruze likely wouldn't get a coupe but the Verano has one in 2014.
I don't like the
rubber bandstires. But I'm in the styling minority currently: times change.but the Verano has one in 2014.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The guy at the place I bought it from said around 2800 lb. Not sure what the bed capacity of the truck is, but the GVWR sticker in the doorjamb says 5600 lb (about the same as a decent pre-downsized 70's intermediate) and according to the scale at the dump, I estimated the truck weighs about 4200 lb. So, figure a 1400 lb capacity there. However, I guess you'd have to subtract for my weight, unless I want to get out and run alongside of it!
Anyway, it was a dumb thing to do. The truck had been overloaded before in the past, so I didn't think anything of it. And I was honestly surprised at how well it still drove, considering it had an extra 2800 lb to contend with! I also only had to drive about a half-mile, from the place where I got the dirt from to my house, so I was tempted to chance it.
Once I spread out those three cubic yards though, and saw how little coverage there really was, the next time I needed dirt, I just ordered a whole dumptruck full...14 cubic yards, and delivery was only around $50-60. Well worth it, IMO!
Would I buy one, no, because:
I'm too cheap
can't get past the IMO horrible plasticky / bubbly IP
prefer the older iron
only converts I would really buy would be '59 Eldo, C2 Sting Ray (but prefer '63 Split Window) or 64-1/2 thru '66 Mustang
GM noted that under the policy, if a new car is damaged beyond repair within the car's first year or first 15,000 miles, whichever comes first, MetLife will repair or replace the vehicle with a new vehicle, without deducting for depreciation."
GM Offers Free Auto Insurance to New-Car Buyers (Inside Line)
You know what they need to do, too? Offer a Cruze convertible. I loved that they always kept a convertible in the old Cavalier lineup. Heck, for a long time they even had a wagon!
That insurance idea is pretty novel. Let's see how they do!
Could be our tax dollars at work again...Sounds like MetLife has caved to the White House guys, more ObamaCare..
Regards,
OW
I will also wager those "blue states" put more into the system than many "red states".
Politicos don't control financiers, you know...it's the other way around.
The grand sport, z06, ZR1 vettes were especially awesome as was cts-V coupe and the CTS-wagon.
(I was there to test drive a Cruze LS and trade my 06 VW TDI manual-shift for a 011 Cruze LS manual-shift... Mission was accomplished.)
Loaded with 4 banger Malibus and Cruzes..The Cruze LT RS is the only decent one of the bunch and it is not really cheap, however, the top speed is around 125mph..shows promise..H-rated tires..
The alarming side of the window sticker is the that only 45% of the parts content comes from the USA/Canada, 15% from Mexico, and 19% Austria..The engine is from Austria, and the tranny is from the USA..The car is assembled in Lordstown by our benevolent UAW, a union adored by the White House Car Czar, Ron Bloom..Just repeating Bloom's sentiments..
I guess you could say that the Camry has more USA content than the Cruze, Volt, or the upcoming Sonic..If it wasn't for the trucks at the Chevy dealer, one could say that our beloved "Hot dog, Baseball, and Apple pie" American dream dealer is gone!!!! Aren't Camaros assembled in Quebec???? How's the "Hope and Change" working out for our auto business..
Now, in order to sell these little boxes called transportation, the guys in DC will make sure the price of gas takes off to the $5.00/gal range..After all there still a few shares of GM stock left to issue and the fat cats need a big price for the next go around..Somebody upgraded the GM stock this last week over Ford, so the push is on, for the price in the high 20s is not good for the houses holding large blocks of GM stock..
Sorry I got into the "insurance freebie" for auto insurance is a pain, however Govt would probably like to "level" the playing field and eliminate the "fat cats" on car insurance, parallels the "health care" drumbeat..
Remember "Cash for Clunkers", next program could be "Cash for Guns"....
Interesting note, 400 mile trip in the Cruze by C/D mag, gas mileage average was 18mpgs, and the test of the 2012 Mustang Boss 302, the gas mileage was 15 mpgs.. I know which one I would pick, for motoring has to be fun and getting 18 out of 138 hp doesn't seem like much pleasure, just major disgust...Probably had the a/c on..You think????
General Motors Co. beat out Bank of America Corp. by $1.4 million in revenue to make a triumphant return to the top 20 of the world's largest corporations, according to Fortune Magazine.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
and you appear to be lying about the mustang GT vs Cruze mpg numbers.
Soon I can gladly report actual 6.0 V8 mpg vs Cruze 1.8L mpg... I'm guessing probably it will be 20 vs 33.
moto, what is your goal in looking at cruze as a performance car?! What other models are you considering/comparing.
(i look at Cruze as an value-leader 4-door econobox with all the latest tech - very civic like. In the 1990s i owned 3 honda civics as well as various Z28s... i don't much like driving large vehicles, and it seems like GM has a great competitor to civic now...)
It was not Hope and Change.
It was Rope and Chains.
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110711/OEM01/307119952/1261- -
"Inside General Motors' sprawling Orion Township assembly plant, nearly 100 workers pick through a jumble of components for power mirrors, heated seats and other trim parts for the new Chevrolet Sonic. For easy plucking on the assembly line, the parts are sorted neatly into a single plastic bin for each car.
"GM says the system of sequencing parts into tidy kits for line workers is a game-changer that will boost productivity. And the workers doing the sorting are not GM employees. They're UAW workers employed by an outside supplier and paid about $20 an hour, including benefits, far less than GM's Orion workers."
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110711/OEM01/307119952/1261- - #ixzz1RpoNnSOJ
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
GM sold about 25,000 Cruzes last month, vaulting the model past perennial leaders such as the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord to become the best-selling car in the U.S. Both Toyota and Honda had fewer models to sell because of parts shortages caused by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami in Japan.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-Sources-GM-to-sell-diesel-apf-629858216.html?x=- - 0&.v=4
Here's Edmund's info sheet for 2013 Cruze (diesel)
http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cruze/2013/features-specs.html
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The only road block I see is a lot of people are still ignorant to the advantages of a diesel. Back when I had my diesel Jetta, a common response was "why in the world would you buy a diesel".
If GM uses a decent diesel in the Cruze, I could be very interested, particularly if it's offered with a manual.
As a lesson, pick a brand and support it like this, GM.
Thanks to a handful of subtle tweaks, the 621 horsepower 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 can run around the Nürburgring Nordschleife in 7 minutes and 19.63 seconds, fast enough to turn Ferrari Enzos red with embarrassment...if most of them weren't red already. But the 2012 Z06, when equipped with the Z07 performance package, scores most of the same updates the ZR1 did. So how does the new Z06 do around the 'Ring? As a matter of fact, pretty damn well.
With Corvette engineer and racing driver Jim Mero behind the wheel (the same guy who led the ZR1 to its new record), the 505 horsepower Z06 lapped the N-Ring in 7:22.68, 3.05 seconds slower than its big brother. That time means the Chevy hoists a big middle digit to such notables as the 2012 Nissan GT-R, the Pagani F Clubsport, the Maserati MC12...basically, all the same cars the 2012 ZR1 blew away, with the exception of the hardass, 600 horsepower, ditch-the-radio-we-can't spare-the-weight 2009 Dodge Viper ACR. And that car only beat the Z06 by half a second.
You'd like to see some video of the record run? Well, all you had to do was ask.
Pretty Damn Fast
Regards,
OW
You betcha!
How can you repair something that's beyond repair? Sorry, just had to :P
Anyway, I'm seeing more and more Cruzes, current Malibus and Camaro converts on the road lately (as well as the "new" Focus). And we just got a Traverse as a company vehicle - haven't had a chance to drive it personally but will get a review from the person who has taken it to one of our plants approximately 100 miles out. Should be able to give an informative review on its road manners, handling and hauling capability.
I wouldn't buy any of them but nice to see GM is appearing to make some in-roads.
Regards,
OW
Stinky too. :P
What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
Akerson offered some other hints of GM's powertrain future, citing electric vehicles and those fueled by clean-burning compressed natural gas (CNG): "We're going to introduce battery-only vehicles CNG vehicles. Stay tuned. This is not the old GM."
"I drove it the other day. It is great," Akerson said in an interview with USA TODAY. "These new diesels are quiet. Should make it in the low- to mid-40s, and that's with an automatic," the CEO said, referring to the likely fuel economy rating with an automatic transmission.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2011-07-22-diesels_n.htm?AID=4992781&PID=417- 8141&SID=fve6maycal9a
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Another CEO carrying the WH mantra!!!!!
the Euro cruze sites do not post favorable diesel mpg numbers, but it's hard to take them seriously with their silly Euro/Drachma/metric thing.
no mention yet of a 6-speed manual transmission with the cruze diesel, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !?!?!
What will be the lowest-$ diesel cruze offering? An LTZZ++SS diesel Special Edition $10k or $20k option package like it is on 2500/sierra trucks ?!?!!?
Also, even with the $20k option package, the Denali Cruze Diesel would probably have only an automatic transmission !
And no a 400 hp vette is not chopped liver especially when it gets nearly 29 mpg highway!
how about that new green-edition package 6-speed V6 camaro? easy 29 mpg highway with that.
Save The Planet (at least until we find a few new ones to Pave & Drive all over.)
One may get sick of the "Green Beans."
For its 100th birthday, Chevy is celebrating the cars and the passionate fans who've made them, by pitting them against each other in a contest to determine the Best Chevy Ever."
The Best Chevy of All Time? Cast Your Vote (Straightline)
Although I like the '71 exterior styling, I think Chevy started cheaping out on interiors, even in the Caprice, in '71.
Regards,
OW
Oh I think they went downhill in a major way in 1971. All of 'em, not just Chevy. The only styling detail I'm not that crazy about on the '70 is those peaked headlights. I didn't like that detail on the '71-73 Olds Delta/98 or '73 Dodge Polara either. However, I think the '70 Chevy wears it well, perhaps even better, because it doesn't have the divider between the headlights like those other cars did. And, while I'm not a fan of that detail, it's not enough to make me dislike any of those cars I mentioned.
I think the '71 Chevies did a good job with a bit of "baby Cadillac" look up front, but overall, the '70 just seems like a better-built, quality piece. I always thought the rear of the '71 had sort of an unfinished look to it, although they improved that for '72.
Also, on the interior, when they went to those 2-piece door panels, where the upper part was covered in vinyl (vinyl and cloth on the Caprice) and the lower part was plastic with the armrest molded in (and carpet glued on if you got a Caprice) just seemed cheap compared to the 1-piece door panel that the '70 had. Even though the armrest an old-fashioned bolt-on style, it just seemed higher quality overall.
One thing that impressed me about the downsized '77 big cars is that they went back to those 1-piece door panels. I don't think it made as big of a deal with the Caprice, but at least with the Impala you got vinyl from top to bottom, rather than the bottom half being hard plastic.
Oh, as for that $5,000 Chevy, my grandparents' '72 Impala 4-door hardtop ended up being around $5,000. Dunno if that was what they paid with tax, tags, etc, or the MSRP, but I just remember "5,000". So, inflation started taking its toll. Just three years later, my grandparents paid about $5,000 for a '75 Dart Swinger! My Mom's '75 LeMans coupe was also around $5,000, which I can't figure out...a V-8 intermediate for the same price as a slant six compact? Both had automatic, ps/pb, and air conditioning.
My old car book lists the base price of a '75 Swinger hardtop at $3518, and a '75 LeMans coupe at $3590, so they were pretty close. Of course, you'd have to add for the V-8 in the LeMans, as standard was just a 250 6-cyl. I guess it was conceivable that they'd both come in close. LeManses really weren't selling by then, as big cars in general were still off, and Pontiac buyers were flocking to the Grand Prix. So maybe it had deeper discounts? Meanwhile, the compact Dart was still pretty hot seller, even if it was past its prime.
Left a 150 burnout. Measured by ME.
Remeber this?
Did 13's in the 1/4 with stock engine and a few mechanical upgrades.
These were the SOME cars GM forgot about as business progressed... :sick:
Regards,
OW