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As far as driving a stick leads to more car enthusiasm and better driving skills, I would have to wholeheartedly agree. Those who drive a stick choose it because they enjoy driving their cars, so therefore they tend to be more enthusiastic about them. Most people who choose an automatic do so for easier driveability, to make it easier to do their makeup or eat or talk on cell phone while driving, or simply because they can't handle the coordination of using 3 pedals and shifting a stick while dealing with heavy traffic. Therefore, most people who choose an auto don't look at cars enthusiastically. They tend to look at them as simple transportation to get them back and forth with as little inconvenience as possible.
Because shifting a stick involves more concentration and paying attention to what the car is doing, you tend to learn more driving skills than those who just put the car in D and drive around paying little attention to what they are doing while talking on the phone or eating, etc etc. It is very hard for me to shift and talk on a cell phone, so I rarely use one. The same goes for eating. Since I don't divert my attention with these distractions, I would venture to say that my driving skills would be better than those that do allow these distractions to become a daily part of their lives (which is made very easy with the use of an auto). So, I would have to say driving skills of manual drivers are higher than those of auto drivers, mainly due to the attention factor required of manual trannys. Jrct9454, you already formed your driving skills by driving a manual for so many years, so I would think you would see my point here.
Sorry, I don't think that in my extensive experience on the nation's highways that manual transmissions necessarily make for better, more attentive drivers; real driver training, strict licensing laws [of which we have none in this country - try Europe], and experience make good drivers. I'll concede the point about phones and food - nothing drives me to distraction faster than people yapping on the g.d. phone, juggling a latte, slapping the brat, and trying to navigate at the same time, and a manual trans forces you to at least use one hand to actually do something related to driving. [In Germany, using a phone while the car is in motion is illegal...and the law makes no distinction about what kind of transmission you have.]
As for your assessment of me personally - no, not really...I think the current technology is something I like to take advantage of, and the new generation of 5-spd automatics/manumatics gives you the best of both worlds. I said, you're welcome to your opinion...it's just not a religion with me, this gear-shifting thing. I most recently tried the latest BMW 3er with their latest manual trans, and if that's the best they can do, I say go with the Steptronic...maybe it depends on the car...I would certainly make any Porsche I owned a manual trans, at least partly because the money they want for the Tip is ridiculous, and mostly because the transmission action in the manual continues to be one of the world's best; and yes, Honda makes a fabulous one for their cars. As I said, not a religion...
And yes, I am a certified 50+ Old Fart...who just happens to drive the living daylights out of whatever is in the garage at the moment. I just categorically reject the notion that anyone who chooses an automatic "doesn't look at cars enthusiastically, but as simple transportation"...I wish...
I deduced my remarks about most (not all) auto drivers mainly from discussions about the topic with friends. Whenever I would ask someone I know about why they don't drive a manual, they would always answer with "its too complicated, too tiresome in heavy traffic, or too hard to eat or do my makeup". These kind of remarks came from people who had no interest in cars whatsoever and chose to drive an auto as a result. You are one of the rare few who already formed your love for driving with years of manual use and thus transferred that love over to your newfound interest in manumatic autos.
Anyway, I can say we at least agree on Germany's law banning the use of cell phones while driving. I think that is a great idea! Like you said, to each their own. I just hope that these new autos don't take away the choice of driving a real manual from those that do care.
No hard acceleration for 600mi.
1st oil charge at 3750 - 7500 (NOT EARLIER!)
See FAQs at this site for more interesting tidbits from Honda:
http://www.honda2000.com/owners/service_parts/top_techs.html
We are in a market for a new car (no more SUV). We want something between $15,000 and $23,000. Since we already have an Accord, we would really appreciate the recommendations from all the Accord owners for our 2nd car. Thanks.
1. Toyota Camry
2. Used Volvo S70
3. VW Passat
4. Mazda 626
But if I were take your advice an get a Camry, I would definitely own two or most reliable cars out there. Camry's are definitely bullet proof. People do call Camry dull though. Maybe there's some truth to that.
Volvo S70 got ripped by autoreview.com. We thought about it (2000 S70 SE auto for $25,999) but they way they described the reliability and also at Carpoint.com review describes the maintenance cost, kinda told us to treat the budget like a $40,000 car.
VW Passat is a gorgeous car. I like this the best from what you listed. Reliability is only thing for VWs.
Mazda 626 has made super improvements for 2000. My brother in law just got one. I get drive his once in a while. Great price. Only thing is auto 4 cyl is stressed big time. 6 cy and/or manual is a way to go.
Amazon, thanks again for responding. All great choices.
But if sporty isn't your thing, try the Civic. You can't beat the price, and the gas mileage is great. Plus reliability is excellent (I know, I've owned one of these too). I've also heard some good things about the Sentra, but they lag behind the Civic in reliability just a tad.
I hear great things about the Integra's handling. I think I will test drive it. This weekend. Thank you.
I hope the all the Accord owners continue to give us your feed back. They are good. To continue to keep this an Accord Topic. Is there a difference in a ride between Accord Coupe and Sedan?
What type of car did you end up in. I have followed your posts for a while and guess you found a way out of the coupe. Just curious.
I'm shopping for the 2000 Honda Accord SE Sedan.
I've got a deal of 18668 + 300 Profit + 97 splash guards for it. (4.9 APR with 5000 down)
I'm planning to reduce this price to just invoice.
Please suggest ASAP as I'm pplanning to buy Burgundy Red SE tomorrow !!
Should I get him to drop $397 AND add a CD Player?
Please Suggest. I'm in Illinois where CarsDirect or others don't do business.....
LX 17246
SE 18528
EX 18695
EX V6 21866
To all prices add dest, lic ($12), DOC ($40) and tax.
I don't know if these are particularly good prices or not. I bought my LX V6 in April for $100 over invoice ... absolutely NO HASSLE!!! Easiest car purchase I ever made. My dealer is Howard Cooper in Ann Arbor. www.howardcooper.com
Isn't there a $500 dealer incentive going on now? I don't really know ... I haven't been too concerned about prices since I bought mine!
Hope this helps.
According the USA Today review, at http://www.usatoday.com/money/columns/healey.htm, sounds like there are lot of enhancements (not a big change like going from '97 to '98)Complete change in I'm very curious how much it will look different. I remember the '96 Accord looked better than the '94 and '95.
Keep in mind this is a facelift, not a new model; the next generation is due in 24 months. That said, there are a lot of substantive updates, led by the assertion that they have made the car quieter [a big deal, if true], and by a lot of new std equipment updates [nice, but less important]. The EX V6 is now getting really desirable: 3-in-1 in-dash CD changer/cass, dual stage airbags, traction control, side bags...if they have indeed dealt in some meaningful fashion with the road noise issue, this is a real winner at anything remotely like the transaction prices on this car in the recent past.
After driving two Fords over a period of some ten years, we have talked to and met a great many fine people across North America: AAA/CAA telephone operators, AAA/CAA emergency crews, Ford service managers, Ford mechanics and Ford customer service agents.
On twelve occasions in the last ten years, the fine people at Ford have even sent us special (recall) invitations to go and pay them a visit.
We will miss all those fine people ...
found some white strings are coming out from
bottom of the both passenge doors. If you
pull them, they will keep coming out. This made
me upset. Anyone expereinced the same problem?
OK, I'll hibernate for now.
This "upsets" you?
Wow!
(Help me, help me, I just can't stop
"Smokin....."
Does anyone know when the 2001 models are comming out?
I recently test drive the 2000 V6 didn't really hear the interior noise everyone was talking about
at highway speed.
I would definely wait for 2001 model though since they did make quite a few improvement.
Thanks
I have been quoted prices from $500 to $1500 !
Is it a good idea to get a CD changer installed from Best Buy or somethng rather than from the dealer.
TIA.
If not, then remember that dealers get 500$ from Honda on every V6 model the sell (till 5th Nov)
Do search on www.hparts.com and www.partscheap.com
hparts is specially for Hondas.....which are manufactured by Honda itself. The give an installation guide(pdf format)
Also BEST-Buy/Walmart(not sure) install it for free if i take it from them. (If it costs above some $ value..)
If u r not getting special financing wait 2 more weeks for the new accords to come in....
U will get 6-Disc IN-DASH CD Player....
Refer to this link....
http://www.vtec.net/news/items/437.html
Hope this helps...
~Milind
I am getting a little less than 22K. It is going to be $500 extra if I get approved for Honda financing.
I dont think I am going to get the CD changer from the dealer. Its much cheaper outside.
I have a 98 Honda Accord EX, 4'clyd with 33k. My dealer gave me the option to purchase a extended warranty package from honda for $900, which covers bumper to bumper for a total warranty of 6years and 100,000miles. My question is should i get the warranty, or am i wasting my money. I plan to trade or to sell the car next year, and upgrade to a late model preowned Acura TL, IE:1999
I have a couple of problems, with this accord. First they had to replace my ABS Computer, due to the Light would occasionally come on. Since Honda replaced the ABS computer now my Break Light comes on when the car is Cold.. They are suppose to order some parts this week, and I am hoping they will fix it.
The other problem i am having is that occasional, when starting off on a cold start, and making a right or left hand turn, i hear a strange radial noise, from under the front left finder. Has anyone else ever heard this noise before????
The warranty is trasnsferrable, it stays with the car, since it is a honda warranty.
This is my first Honda, I thought Honda was the car that never breaks down!!!!
Is there anyone out there that have had problems with there 98 Honda Acccord 4cyld after the warranty was up?
more often. My Chevy Lumina had that problem
2 months ago before I decided to trade it in.
I first thought it was the brakes or rotors.
i doubt i'd buy a volkswagen product, but the passats i drove before i bought the accord were really delightful to shift... smooth, fast... great feeling.
maybe over time, our accords will shift more smoothly?
As to the shifter, the Accord has a very notchy shifter that can get rather annoying at times. Under most circumstances it is positive in its action, but if you ask it to do anything quickly, it protests with godawful grinding and troublesome gear engagements. I have cursed it many times and it doesn't really seem to get better with age. My Mom has much less problems with it so you must get used to it after awhile. Hope this helps some.
Any response would be greatly appreciated.
It now takes her much longer to get anywhere. It isn't a speed issue as the odometer suggests distances from A to B have somehow been extended. That's all A's and all B's!
Is it possible that she enjoys the car so much that the longest way has become the best way?