Older Honda Accords

dudleyr

The wagon would also be the most applealing Accord to me.

thegraduate

Put a six-speed in it and you have a bargain-bahn-burner (as opposed to a $60k Mercedes E-series wagon or unreliable VW Passat Wagon)

autoboy16

or the pricey bmw 3 and 5series wagons, audi a4 or a6 wagons, or the volvo v70 and xc70 wagons. The only real wagons i like are the volvo v50t5 and the mazda 6wagon (the 5door is good too)

austinman7

I'm looking to trade my '04 Accord LX 4 cyl. for a 6 cyl. sedan and have driven the usual suspects -- Camry, Altima, Mazda6, and a few more. Decided to try the Accord LX V6 this morning and really liked it.

I held off on the V6 several years ago when I bought my LX because Honda was in the middle of dealing with a transmission issue affecting V6 cars. I asked the service manager today if he was still seeing that problem, and he said no. A mechanic overhearing us us said there had been a redesign to eliminate that 2nd gear problem.

So I'm hoping and assuming all is okay and I could buy this LX V6 with no worries. Would you all agree?

Thanks for your help.

djm2

What would you have expected the Service Manager to say about the V6 transmission problem? Personally, I would not purchase a V6 Accord. But, that is just my opinion. ----Best regards. ---- Dwayne :lemon:

thegraduate

The recalls no longer exist for new V6 Accords I believe; their warranties for transmissions are much extended however, to relieve your concerns about it. I believe the problem got better after the 2004 year.

elroy5

I have not heard of any 7th gen V6 Accords having Automatic transmission problems. I think Honda has solved the problem. My 03 V6 Auto is perfect. Yes there was a recall on it. And it seems to have worked out just fine.

avianflu

Autoboy:

You've hit the nail on the head. Although if you go to the Honda UK & France sites you will
see unedited euro versions of the Accord Tourer
avaiable with 2,2 Liter turbo Engine yeilding
40mpg (5.9 L/10km). Also their tail lights look better than ours. 0-62 mph in 9.2 sec.

http://www.honda.fr/showroom/tourer/

2.4 L Petro is available in UK, but apparently not in France:

Le moteur 2,0 litres I-VTEC développe une puissance de 155 ch, un couple
maxi de 190Nm à 4500 tr/min. La nouvelle version 2,4 litres, quant à elle, délivre sans effort 190 ch, un couple maximum de 224 Nm à 4500tr/min.
Le nouveau Moteur 2,2 litres Turbo-Diesel i-CTDI de Honda offre le meilleur compromis entre sobriété, couple, accélérations et émissions de CO2 (155 g/km) avec une puissance de 140 ch pour une consommation mixte de seulement 5.9 l / 100 km.

austinman7

djm2,

I share some of your cynicism about service departments in general, but my particular service manager has been pretty forthcoming with me on this issue for several years. He's gone into his records and told me about the number of recalls they've performed, etc.

Still, I consider this forum to be a great source of information. I take it you don't own a V6 Accord. Do you have any factual information to support your view that this car is a lemon? It would be helpful for me to know that.

Thanks for your input.

austinman7

the graduate, elroy5

Thanks for your input on the V6 Accord. Your views at least sound hopeful. I appreciate it.

autoboy16

Ok so i admit it . I'm barely bilingual (English & Español) and here you come throwing in french :mad:!! Whay does that say?? It looks like it says ():

(I'm new at french, give me a break)
The 2.0 liter I-Vtec motor was developed by something, something and gers 190hp at 4500rpm and delivers a maximum of 224lb ft of torque at 4500rph.
The all new motor in is a 2.2 liter turbo diesel called i-CTDI made by honda that offers no compromises with something and something and gets good acceleration and emissions with carbon dioxide (155grams oer killometer) and pressure of 1400 sometings by a mixture and solution of 5.91/ 100km.
(Hey it may not all be right but i did it translatorless)

Ok i think that means that the the engine runs on a mixture of carbon dioxide and some kind of mixture that equals 5.91/ 100km to get good emmisions and strong acceleration. I think that 5.91/ 100km is the fuel economy or the pressure at which the engine operates at an optimum efficiency or something like that.

Hey i'm not so bad at french. Now if only i could get past that internationl language barrier thing... If you thought those litte paragraph were hard, try to do the website. By my novice french, i think that website said the FRV (a 6 passenger 3+3 wagon/hatch/ mazda5 competetor) is being prepared for the NA market. I Hope it doesn't come here... It is UUUHHH- GGGAAAA- LLLYYYYY!! It looks like some strange cross between an bmw X5 and X3 and toyota Prius. See for yourself

imidazol97

Use this site's webpage translation ability--below the part for paragraph translation. Just enter the URL and voila...

pat

let's keep the posts in English -- we are an English speaking site after all.

beedublu

But lets face it, its time has come and gone here in the USA.

Two things caused me to choose an 04 Malibu Maxx instead of the 04 Accord LX that I originally set out to buy: (1)The humongous GM Card rebate I had accumulated and (2) the hatchback versatility of the Malibu Maxx. If Honda had offered a car something like this, I might actually have passed on the GM Card cash.

Come on, Honda...if GM (of all companies) can offer an innovative midsize vehicle, why can't you?

imidazol97

If I understood correctly, they were linking to a Honda Site in French and wanted to read the description. I wasn't recommending posting here in French.

autoboy16

Don't worry . I'm 76% sure that what i said is 76% correct. Try tanslator.com :P for the people like me that can't quite speak french.

stickguy

I like it. It might sell well here, or maybe not since i have stange taste in cars. But, ditch the middle front seat and put in a manually tranny.

The back seat looks neat though, individually sliding buckets are cool.

ashahdds

Do the 05 and 06's Accords have tranny issues as the 99-04 models have, or is it too early to tell? Honda claims that the trannies are redesigned, but I dont think they are all that different, plus they will say anything to sell the darn car. Is the transmission really that different from the past years.

ashahdds

Do the 05 and 06's TL's have tranny issues as the 99-04 models have, or is it too early to tell? acura claims that the trannies are redesigned, but I dont think they are all that different, plus they will say anything to sell the darn car. Is the transmission really that different from the past years.

seniorjose

The transmissions were redesigned in the early 2000s. Nothing was wrong with the old ones that I can see...remember that Honda owners are a real nitpicking bunch because they have such a fine auto...not junk like the ***CENSORED***.

lmacmil

"Still, I consider this forum to be a great source of information."

Really? I would say it's a source of anecdotal information from a very, very small sampling of owners. I wouldn't base any purchase decision solely on what I read here. In fact, info on Edmund's forums would be very far down the list of information sources on which to base a purchase decision.

I think in general that dissatisfied owners are far more likely to post about their problems than satisfied owners are to post their good experience.

mrbill1957

I totally agree.

The one bad thing with forums is there is no built in "lie detector"

Anyone can post anything they want, even Toyota/GM/Ford/Whomever owners and or dealers. They can say how great or bad the cars are, and their is always a chance they are blowing smoke!!!

Mrbill

autoboy16

true and i see no reason for those people to lie. That i know of, i've seen nothing thats not plausible, If a problem was asked and agreed with , it wasn't likely a lie. There are people in a room that ask questions about a car because its being considered for purchase. It could be the most oddest off the planet thing but that doesn't mean its a lie. We're all (ok most of us :confuse: ... maybe some ... a few... :sick: ) are civilized people to begin with and don't need to lie. Just trust what you believe is true. Now back to the accord?

carguy58

You know everybody complains about Honda's 6-cyl tranny's. I have an 02 Acura CL(base model) with 45K+ miles on it and I bought the car new in September of 01. I think it was one of the first 02 model year made because the dealer didn't even have the car on the lot when I bought it. I had to wait a week for it. I have had no tranny problems in almost 5 years of ownership. I think I was just lucky maybe(so far.) And no, like the poster said, no I am not a Honda dealer or work for Honda. I am a Honda fan and have been since my high school years(94-98.) I have had no problems with my CL mechanically. I had the tranny recall for the oil jet kit however.

I used to know somebody(to be fair)that had an 02 TL(Base) a couple of years ago and they needed a new tranny at 70K and something else too wrong with it. Up to that point she never had anything wrong with her TL. We used to talk all the time about our cars. She even had the oil jet kit installed and the tranny still expired.

I do belive Honda tranny problem are a thing of the past. I don;t think Honda is a manufacurer that have the same problem with a car 2 generations straight. One of my relatives had an 00 accord V6. My relative had a few problems with the accord but the tranny never had a problem I don;t think.

autoboy16

I own a 95 v6. I'm having few tranny problems but no major problems. I have 115,000 miles and my tranny problems consist of the time of the shift. Sometimes it shifts to early, others it shifts too late. Also the time it takes for it to kick into gear has increased slightly. I think its because my check engine light is on. Its not a big issue. I just need my air intake replaced and it will be done at south motors or braman honda for $0 because it is part of the 98-081 service bulletin until 150k miles or 14years (3 left) .

beechjet21

My girlfriend has an '03 TL automatic, which she purchased new. I was looking for the car's owner's manual and came across a letter from Honda that granted her a warranty extension for a total of seven years. So, evidently there were some issues on some of these transmissions, or they probably wouldn't have issued an unsolicited warranty extension.

carguy58

"My girlfriend has an '03 TL automatic, which she purchased new. I was looking for the car's owner's manual and came across a letter from Honda that granted her a warranty extension for a total of seven years. So, evidently there were some issues on some of these transmissions, or they probably wouldn't have issued an unsolicited warranty extension."

Yeah I know about the warranty extension I got the letter mailed to me a year and a half ago and I got the oil jet kit installed that Honda/Acura reccomended for the tranny recall. I;m was just saying in my last post I haven;t had a problem with the tranny in my Acura CL like other people have had with their 98-02 Accord V6's, , 01-02 and some 03 Cl's, and some 00-03 Acura TL's, 03 Honda Pilots(I think) and 01-02 Acura MDX's I think that were part of the tranny recall. I think the tranny recall affected the 99-04 Honda Oddessy but I;m not too sure.

suzees

My daughter is interested in a 2003 used Accord EX-L with sunroof. Her husband is 6'4". I told her that I thought cars with sunroofs had lower ceilings than if it didn't have a sunroof. Anyone have any knowledge in this? Will her 6'4" husband be able to drive or sit in the passsenger side without touching the ceiling?

thegraduate

I am 6'4", and drive my Accord EX with no problem (I keep the seat height in the lowest position, I can move it up about 2 inches before hitting my head). In the rear of the car, I am usually ok unless I use perfect posture, then I brush my hair on the ceiling. Front seats are fine for me though.

carlosh87

I have a 95 accord EX 4cly V-tech. I wanted to know what are the biggest rims i can put on the car? The car is very low its drop to the ground!

dudleyr

I am 6' -0" and there is no way I can sit in the back of an EX - my chin is literally on my chest. LX and below my head firmly touches the top if I sit upright, if I slouch a tad (as I probably would after a while on a long trip)it is comfortable.

The front seat is fine for both, partly because I tilt the seat back a little.

Gotta try for yourself - a lot depends on body type and posture.

qbrozen

I'm 6'5" and have no problem in the driver's or passenger's seat. As a matter of fact, I don't even have the driver's seat adjusted to its extreme limits, as I usually do in all cars I've owned. So there is room to spare in the Accord. (and, yes, i have the moonroof)

caedward2

I'm currently shopping for an EX Sedan with gray cloth interior. My local dealer in Fort Worth is telling me they don't make such a car with the silver exterior. Strangely, I can configure one on the Honda website. Anyone bought this color combination?

bolivar

Honda only makes certain exterior/interior color combinations. To check further, pick up a brochure (sp?), or look at the dealers color chart. These give the valid combs available.

The dealer is probably wanting to sell you something he has in stock. You know, salesmen lie sometimes.

thegraduate

If it is anything like my father's Silver Accord (EX Cloth), it only comes in black interior. This was the case for 2003-2005 Accords, and believe it holds true in the 2006.

DFW dealers aren't giving you the runaround, I think the website may be wrong.

tinatina

In order to get an EX with the gray cloth interior, you will have to get the Graphite Pearl, Redondo Red Pearl, or a Royal Blue Pearl per the 2006 Honda Accord Sedan brochure. In silver, as noted by thegraduate, it comes only with the black interior.

tinatina

thegraduate,

This may be a stupid question. For the built in 6 disc c/d changer (2006 Accord SE) with the anti-theft feature, it is normal for it to flash (like an alarm), right?

Thanks,

A bit of paranoia or ignorance over my new purchase

oohonda

I just bought a 2004 Honda Accord v6. Unfortunately, I did not get a owners book with the car. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the tiny vent or speaker looking thing located in front the homelink buttons is. It looks like its a speaker? or maybe its for the homelink system. Very curious to know :confuse: .

oohonda

Yes, that is normal. I have a 6 disc c/d changer in my 04' and it does the same thing. If it flashes red its not ready for you to load a cd in it yet until its green.

spiff72

I don't know if this is the right thread to post this in, but I have been getting a lot of seat time in my wife's Accord Coupe (she broke her right ankle and can't drive, and her car is easier for her to get in and out of than my truck is).

I love driving this thing - it is very quick! However, I have noticed that when I take my foot off the accelerator and apply the brakes, the downshifting of the transmission is very noticeable as the car slows down. There may be certain downshifts that feel more noticeable, but I can't be sure of this (perhaps the 3-2 or 2-1 downshifts.

Is this "normal" for this transmission? I can't recall ever having a car with an auto transmission that you could feel these downshifts on (at all).

Thanks!

spiff72

I think what tinatina was referring to was the flashing red light on the radio/cd changer that blinks when the ignition is off.

This is normal - it is meant to let potential thieves that the radio has a theft-deterrent code. If power is cut off to the radio, it forces you to enter a numeric code before it will work again.

aburd

I ran into this when shopping for a car a couple of months ago. The 2006 Accord alabaster silver exterior/gray interior combo wasn't offered until January or so, and it didn't even show up in the first printed 2006 model brochures (I don't know if the brochures have been updated). But the combination does exist (the dealer here as both silver/black and silver/gray EX-L cars in inventory). I haven't seen the cloth ones, but I assume they exist as well since the gray leather wasn't initially available either.

The dealer I talked to back in March wasn't even aware that the combination was available (till he noticed one on his lot).

You can find out for sure by doing an inventory search on the dealer's website. If it shows SI as the exterior color code it is silver ext/black int; if it shows SX as the color code it is silver ext/gray int.

There's a color matrix posted here: 2006 Accord Color Matrix

don57

In my 06 V6 with navi, this is a microphone for the voice command system. On the homelink there are three buttons. Each one can contral a seperate device, garage door, gate etc

tinatina

Thanks, for anwering my question. I thought it was normal. Although I purchased the car last week I only put on about 20 miles on it and it for the most part was parked in my garage. The cd changer was not part of my 2004 model. I started reading the manuals yesterday. Anyway, I am now up to almost 100 miles. Should be adding at least 200 miles over this weekend on it.

Overall, very happy with the fit and finish of the vehicle.

spiff72

Weren't you looking at the Camry Hybrid (or at least posting in that thread)? What made you change your mind and go with the Accord?

elliottpd

I can confirm this problem. I just installed the same wiring harness, and my cruise control drops off when the turn signal is activated, too. I have a 2006 Accord EX V-6. I just figured out the source of the problem, so I don't have a solution yet. If you find one, please let me know, and I will do the same.

tinatina

Hello spiff72. Yes, I wanted the Hybrid Camry and I also looked at the Avalon (I was considering getting a bigger vehicle with a 6). There were several factors that changed my mind. In no particular order, they were as follows:

Price of the Camry Hybrid (OTD would have been about $30k, or about 10k more OTD than what I paid) or over $13k more OTD if I wanted leather, NAV, etc.

I'm not completely sold on the hybrid technology at this point and will like to wait a few years to see how it advances.

I don't like buying first year model vehicles of any make -whether Honda, Toyota, etc.

I really liked my 2004 Accord, which replaced my 2000 Honda Accord. The price was good and the dealer treatment was far better than the arrogant Toyota dealerships in my area. Honda dealerships have treated me well when servicing my vehicle.

Hope this helps if you are in the market.

oohonda

I don't have a navi in my car so I will have no use for the microphone. A used Honda with the navi is hard to come by. Thanks for answering my question. :shades:

atlantabenny

Yes, it's normal for Accord automatics with "grade logic control," introduced in the 5th gen (94-97) model. I had the 6th gen automatic, which didn't seem as aggressive in downshifting as my 03 V6. After driving 500 or so miles, one gets used to it. Nice feature imo.

tallman1

The various responses about headroom just go to show you that we're all different even at the same height. I'm 6'4" and my head ends up being slightly cocked in my 95 Accord EX. I test drove the LX (w/o sunroof) back then and there was much more headroom.

The same thing applies to my 06 Accord. However, the newer car is even worse because the ceiling panel cuts in more so my head is tilted a bit more. He'll just have to sit in it and see how it works for him.