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I bought a 2000 Honda Accord LX last month that already had an aftermarket alarm system installed. They had two LX's exactly the same, but one had the alarm and the other had none. I bought the one with the alarm, which cost me $298 extra. I probably could have negotiated a lower price (maybe $50 less), but I had already dragged out the the negotiations for several days on another car. The alarm came with remote keyless entry (lock/unlock), remote arming and automatic arming, silent arming & disarming, valet feature, and shock/motion sensors in case window is broken or car is towed. However, it does not unlock the trunk.
I've also noticed the locks will lock when the ignition is turned on and open when the ignition is turned off. But that may be a feature of the car itself, rather than the alarm.
In any case, I'm happy so far with the aftermarket alarm and can't imagine any extra feature on the $495 Honda alarm that I would be willing to pay extra for. Good luck on your choice (of alarms) and enjoy your new Accord.
thank you.
Your alarm has all the features that the Honda brand has and more, except unlock the trunk which only Honda brand has it. I'll probably get something similar to yours in term of features. May I ask what brand is your alarm?, Clifford, Viper?. My fiance's sister's Civic got broke in over the weekend and got her $120 Clarion CD player stolen. The back window replacement is $150. So the need for an alarm is pretty urgent.
The lock and unlock with ignition turning on and off is the alarm's feature and you can disable it. My brother's 4runner Clifford also has that feature plus it rolls the windows up when it's armed.
I'll use your price as a guide to shop around this weekend.
I also called the dealer and ask them about the labor for installing the Honda brand alarm if I happen to buy it with www.hparts.com, the original answer was "no we don't install aftermarket security system". After explained to them that it's Honda brand, they said the labor maybe $250, they're nuts, blood sucking nuts.
I don't know how Milindc got it install for $95 labor.
Thanks again... enjoy your LX
My 2000 Accord LX cost me $17,600 + $298 for the alarm for a total of $17,898 before taxes, title, and license plates. I also got the 5.9% financing rate for 48 months. Another dealer offered me the same model (no alarm) for $16,995, but with an 8% financing rate. Not counting the cost of the alarm, the payments for either car were within $1 of each other. I chose the higher price (with lower interest rate) because it was at a dealer where I have been having my two Honda Civics serviced for the last six years.
My Accord has your standard LX features (2.3 ltr. 150-hp engine, power windows and locks, AC, cassette player, and cruise control.) It also has an automatic transmission. I guess the only non-standard items are the alarm and auto tranny. No alloy wheels or sun-roof.
I had planned to install an alarm anyway, but I got lucky and found the one I bought with one already installed by the dealer. It saved me the trouble of having to shop for an alarm and having to drop off my car to have it installed.
DUPER:
The alarm brand is SILENCER. The remote control seems similar to the one for the Honda remote drawn in the Accord owner's manual. I'm wondering if all remotes look the same or if the two alarm systems are made by the same company. I guess I'll have to check into it.
We just got a friend's 2001 Civic LX where we negotiated the price for keyless (no Secuity / Alarm) for 95$. which is at dealer's cost.
I also don't get why you guys are running after aftermarket systems. With Accord you should have got an SE. Which has a lot more features than LX for just $1000 or less. with 5.9 ur payment for Se would have been just 15$ more per month !!
SE has Security/Keyless with Trunk opener, Mats, Carpetted floor, Alloy Wheels, ABS, 6 Speaker Audio. It must be bcos of color or unavailability that you got an LX.
SE is specially attractive if you get 4.9/5.9
In any case, I'm sure you're as happy with your SE as I am with my LX.
2) I have received quotes of 550-699 retail for an add-on spoiler. Does anyone know the invoice and/or dealer cost on this add-on? Does 550 seem unreasonable?
3) Is there a $500 dealer incentive available for 2001 exv6's right now?
I'd apprecaite anyone's input/opinion. Thank you very much!
-Warren
Any discussion about price has to carry the caveat that market conditions in your area have a bigger controlling influence on price than any other factor. That said:
Yes, invoice on the EX V6 coupe and sedan appear to be nominally identical.
In the Sacramento, CA area, I just paid [two weeks ago] $23,500 for an EX V6 sedan with no added extras, and before taxes. So, Rebecca, without knowing where you live and what your local market is, the quote you're getting sounds quite high to me...around here, typical selling prices would be $500-$900 over invoice.
There are no dealer incentives on 2001 models! And certainly not for V6s! Most dealerships have no trouble moving their 6 cyl inventory at a brisk pace, and incentives from Honda are reserved for model-year-end clearance events. The 2000 Accords carried an incentive from mid-August, but even then the 4 cyl cars were the only ones getting any money until very late in the model year game.
As for spoilers and such, you're on your own...I think these things redefine ugly, so pricing is something I've never even considered.
Fantastic car, by the way...can recommend the '01 V6 highly.
jrct9454 have you checked your mileage yet? Mine seems quite low. I know its not nearly broken in (my other Accord with 140K miles gets it best milage ever) so hopefully it will improve. Another factor is that the car is usually driven short distances as the wifes commute is only 10 minutes. Oh well, still enjoy the car but she had to have the V6 as I would have chosen the I4 and would be getting much better mileage.
I got to drive this weekend on our 600km roundtrip to Montréal for Thanksgiving. That car likes to move. It was darn difficult to keep it under 140km/hr without the cruise.
One thing I did notice is that engine braking is practically non-existant with this engine. Cruise along at 130km/hr (~ 80mph) and take your foot off the gas ...
I have a question. Can you install steering mounted Vol control on a EX without Leather. Does it require any cutting in the trim or is it just plug and play.
I am looking for 01 EX manual w/o leather but would love to have steering mounted Vol contl.
What would be a good price for 01 EX manual in Dallas area. I got an online offer from Driveoff.com of $20132 + T,T&L. I guess $500 (or 3%) over invoice is a reasonable deal. Did anyone got a better deal. Please post it ASAP b/c I will be visiting the dealer tomorrow. I am also looking for "Made in Japan" Accord. I have 90 Accord 167K 5spd and, laugh if anyone want's to, but personally I think my 90 Acoord's (Made in Japan) interior is superior in material and workmanship than 01's Made in US. Anyway, its personal preference/money. Any feedback would be appreciated. Happy driving!!
Current deals offered:
2000 Accord SE - $18000 includes window tint and
destination charges
2000 Accord EX V6 - $22000 includes tint and
destination
20001 Accord LX V6 - $21000 includes same as above
I will be looking to trade this vehicle in in 1-2 years on a Honda Odyssey. Need the transportation now, due to accident, or would have kept my last Accord till Odyssey purchase.
Since looking at eye on trading in 2 years or so, which one would have hold better resale value including the prices as a factor?
What about 4 cyl vs. V6?
Which colors are better looked at in resale?
Any other things?
thank you
also i sometimes have a problem with the car it feels like it is hesitating when i take my foot off the gas. it feels like the power is drained then it goes back to normal.
But 18,000 for SE is also very good price.
Are u getting 4.9 for SE ? That would make it no brainer.
4Cyl-6Cyl your preferrence. 4Cyl better fuel economy, enough power for almost every type of driving. 6 Cyl: Better power more refined.
I am repeating this again & again but:
SE is very well packaged with ABS/Alloy Wheels/Secuirty/Keyless/6 Speaker Audio/fake wood trim/Mats/Carpetted floor. Also chance of getting Japan made (VIN starting with J)
Hope this helps
On our first trip, our '01 EX V6 got about 22-23 mpg at speeds that varied from 70-80 mph with the AC on all the time, and a number of hill-climbing segments involved. When we got back the car barely had 500 miles on the odo, so this engine is still green as grass.
I think you will find, once the car has several thousand miles, assuming the tires are inflated to the factory spec of 30 psi, that the EPA fuel numbers will be very, very close to real-world experience. A lot of short-distance, city driving is going to make that number even lower, 18-20 mpg with the 6. We expect an overall average after full breakin of 22mpg or so; the equivalent number for us in the 4 cyl was 24-25mpg.
A 3-year-old Accord LX will generally hold 67% or more of its original selling price, if mileage is average...this is extraordinary for this kind of car.
I agree that the SE is a good value, but the improvements in the 2001 are noticeable, and the V6 is a very, very, very nice piece of work.
Honda is I think the only manufacture which gives agressive Red color on its models. Cherry Red of SE looks very nice. (Personal choice) Part of the reason I got an SE was this color too !! Ofcourse value equation was also very good. Cherry Red color has silver content in it which shines in the sun-light. IMO It looks really pretty.
Also Ivory Interior goes very well with the Chery Red exterior, though it's slightly difficult to keep clean.
Unlike Camry whose Red color is burgundy i.e having more contents of Black color, Honda's Red is aggressive with bright treatment again showing the younger ggeneration appeal. Camry's Red seems to be for 50+ crowd !!
There is also 90% of getting Japan made if you go with the Red. Also Emerald & Gold are the two other colors available on SE.
As I said getting an used 98/99 EX V6 would be much better decision than getting new one if plan is for 1-2 years. MUCH lesser depreciation.
The Japan built Hondas aren't one bit different or "better" than the U.S. made ones.
We walked out on the first one when he told us, " we do not need to beg people to buy our cars". The second, would not even consider anything less than 27,129.
We are also buying an SUV, so we are going to work on that for now.
Speeder.
TO Kshedd: why not just buy an Odessey now?
It's kind of a placebo effect I think. Once in awhile we will get a customer looking over the VIN numbers trying to pick out a Japan car. When they find one, we just smile and let them believe what they want to believe.
The most serious problem in the last couple of years originated in the Japanese plant system, and was the direct result of a supplier changing a process that resulted in the batch of bad transmissions that plagued some of the six cylinder cars late last year [yes, all of the transmissions come from Japan, while most of the engines are actually built in Ohio].
Toyotas often suffer from the same myth, and myth it is: the Georgetown plant consistently scores slightly higher than the plant producing Camrys for the US market in Japan, but there are still customers convinced of the opposite.
Believe what you want; the data suggest we are being extremely well served by the manufacturing operations of Honda in North America. If you know anything at all about the corporate culture within the company, then this should be no surprise...these people are obsessive, which is why I like their cars. No manufacturer is perfect, but these guys work harder at it and achieve better results than anyone in the business.
They have highly automated manufacrtring process so the plave of final assembly shouldn't matter I my opinion.
Today I got a 40 mile ride in 2000 Plymouth Breeze. This again reminded me how my accord is much better than it. Consumers some time tend to expect toooo much from Honda/Toyota (They do deliver though). These people should sit sometime in Taurus/Malibu/Grand AMs/Stratus etc to refresh their memory of how good vehicle they are driving
(Hondas/Toyotas)
New Civic(completely built in NA ?) is a fine example of high-class manufacturing process.
That is one hell of a good vehicle with tremendous build quality.....very tight guys.
Thanks
Also my Radio has this static noise that comes on very so often. It sounds like the speaker wires are touching each other. It happens regularly when turning. It's much easier to hear when listening to AM than FM because of mostly talk show and less background noise.
Anyone has any problems or suggestion? I'll call the service guy, but want to make sure I can reproduce it before I'll hear "We never heard that before" excuse.
Thanks
One of the things I like about Hondas is the way they are when they have high miles on them. They still run well, don't squeak or rattle, the switches still work etc...
I wonder how that Breeze will be after 100K?
That is how I tend to measure cars and is one of the reasons I don't like a few brands.
Canadian...what makes you think the Ohio Honda factory is union?
Well, I think I’m going to wait another year and keep my 98 Accord, and see what the next generation 2002 Accord has to bring. I am also looking at buying a used 2000 model
Acura TL next year. The pricing should be the seem as a 2002 Accord EX-V6, I just preferred the higher end model of the Acura TL, VS the lower end Honda.
Does anyone have access to the spy photos of the 2002 Accord???
JUST A NOTE.. THE DEALER DID OFFER ME 16,000 AS A TRADE-IN FOR MY 98 WITH 35K MILES ON IT.
One thing which I observed:
Maxima steering is more sensitive to driver's input & I think it is NOT variable asist(not sure)
It tends to be uncomfortable on th ehighways when Max is difficult to steer & changes direction / track on slight steering feedback.
Accord's variable asist is very good on freeways as it doesn't bug & requires little attention to steer properly in straight directions. But it doesn't mean it is not fun-to-drive. The steering is very precise & tight, gives very good feedback.
The steering wheel feedback is comparable to BMWs.
Same thing about suspension. It communicates without being harsh. Drive these back to back if u want to make sure.
Max is the only car in thise segment which doesn;t have independent rear suspension !!
One more question. I think my mileage is lower due to the auto climate control system. As I understand it, it uses the A/C quite a lot to regulate the temp. I'm not used to this type of system. In my '89 Accord I can set the mode to vent and enjoy the cool air from outside. On the new V6 if I set a temp of say 74 it will use the A/C to reach that temp (assuming the inside is warmer, which it usually is with the sun still having an influence). We've settled on manually shutting the A/C off in weather like this (cool enough). Am I totally off base on the usage and if so can someone please enlighten me as I have read that section of the owner's manual at least ten times.
Read your owner's manual.
I believe that when the system is not in fully auto mode (maybe even then) there is no indicator that the A/C is on until you press the A/C button and the LCD screen tells you. What if I forget, then the A/C will run off and on to reach the set temp. That was my point.
Anyone who understands this better than me care to answer.
In 1994 the Accord was redesign, and then in 1998. Going with what Honda said, this would mean a new Honda Accord for 2002.
I don't think this Accord is anything special; I personally like the 1997 EX, more then my 98 EX.
-jes
If you don't think this Accord is anything special, then by all means save your money; my '01 EX V6 feels awfully special, particularly in comparison to our '98 4 cyl. If you can't see it, keep your money in your wallet.
The North American Honda plants are non-union; and again, if you see no difference between Honda Motor Co and the likes of GM, then I encourage you to vote with your wallet. Anyone who is convinced that the corporation will "fudge the numbers" to fool itself [huh??] about warranty claims and quality should definitely be shopping the competition...no need to waste your time with
Honda when you could be driving a superior product...whatever that may be.
As I said, no manufacturer is perfect...but some are noticeably better than others. You make the choice every time you open your checkbook.
My choices for most of the past 35 years have been Toyota and Mercedes; my Honda experiences are relatively recent [last 15 years or so], but I am convinced they are the best at what they do among all of them out there. Sometimes they're late to pick up on marketing trends, but that's about the worst I can say of their business philosophy. And yes, I sure hope they make money at it...it's hard to stay in business otherwise.
-Better Engine (Power NVH)
-Very serious V6 model, much better than 97 V6.
-Better Trans
-Better Interior room
-Better interior layout(Modern)
-MUCH better chassis with very good handling.
-Looks, I prefer the 97 though.
Overall it is in typical Honda tradition, improvements but not in radical fashion to keep the resale values of older generations unimpacted.
I don't know how anybody can justify 97 as better than 98 model.
My wife likes the 1999 much more, I think mainly because the power adjustable seat can be raised so she can see out better.