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Bob
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Mazdas frequently last until 250,000 miles and sometimes on up. The '95 was the first year, however, and most of the mechanical problems I have heard of on the Millenia are on the '95s. It also has fairly high maintenance costs.
manichawla:
The '98 will be great, though!
I was out car shopping today and looked at two Millenias. Just so happened that they were both '97 L's with leather and seemingly all the options. One had the gold trim package as well as the CD changer and 30K miles. The other didn't have these extras and had only 18K miles. But, it had quite a bit of hail damage.
I hadn't checked into prices before looking at these two cars and was surprised at the relative low cost. I was quoted $15,700 for the one with 30K miles and the extras (Mazda dealer) and $15,990 for the one with 18K miles (Honda dealer). Both prices seem well below book. How do they compare with your experience?
In pouring through all of the postings (wow, there's passion out there for this car - good and bad) I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer:
1. Is the timing belt replacement at 60K miles
only a requirement for the Miller engine? If
a TB replacement is required for the 2.5L is it
as expensive?
2. Message #342 described the programming sequence
for the '95 or '96; does this also apply to the
'97?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Marty
On my last oil change I drove between 5,500 and 6,000 miles (I use the blended oil for longer life ), when the technician pulled the dipstick...nothing was there. The engine was 3+ quarts low. I was surprised by this fact because nothing had ever been wrong during previous changes. I went ahead and had the engine treated with the equivalent of Slick50 and had the oil system flushed out as well.
4,000 miles into my current oil change the "check engine" light came on so I pulled into a gas station, pulled the dipstick and found the oil to be two quarts low.
This morning when I went to leave my home (about 1,700 miles after putting two quarts in) the car had to turn over many times before it would start instead of the instantaneous response I am used to. After starting the "check engine" came on and stayed on, I checked the oil and it appears that I am at least a quart or more low again.
I have put valve and ring additive into the oil (just recently) and have never noticed the car smoking even when following my wife in our other vehicle. There is no leak that is noticeable.
I have noted that my gas mileage has dropped into the low 20's on the highway driving 70-80 mph, and I noticed lately that it almost feels like I am towing a boat!
I know none of these things are good, probably looking at piston rings or valves or both. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any suggestions? I love the car, its looks, amenities, etc, and really feel that 100,000 miles is too soon for this type of problem to be presenting itself. Reply if you have any comments and similar experiences.
It is parked for now and goes to the dealer this week for an analysis.
has any one tried to increase the HP for the S model, I hear that using K&N Air Filter is one way to do that, but I can't find any one who sell the K&N Air filter for my 1999 MILL S.
has any one any idea where to get those filter from, because the only one I can find is for a 1997 Mill.
also has any one tried any other methods to increase the HP.
I was looking at some of the reviews, most and not all of the data at this one site as an example http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/2213.asp shows that the older MILL S models are faster than the new ones, why is that??
What do you think??
I think we got really lucky. The dealership is a combination Mazda/Buick/Oldsmobile site. Another dealership, however, just bought it. It appears that they are trying to move the Mazdas ASAP.
You got a great deal! Enjoy the Mazda and drive the heck out of it!
K & N, go to a Mazda forum and ask.
120,00 mi. Millenia--get the records and make sure the 120,000 mi. service was done.
Enjoy your cars!
I'll keep on looking.
thanks for trying though
Thanks,
Jason
As for gas mileage, I now live in Tucson, Arizona, therefore I have no freeways to use. Just stoplights galore. My mileage in town varies from 21.5 (summer) to 22.5 (winter). Interstate mileage is 26-27. By the way, I never figure gas mileage by gauge. I do it by inputing trip mileage and gas pump gallons into an EXCEL spread sheet and keeping running totals.
I like the car(0 trips to the dealer so far), but am disturbed by the talk of dropping the Miller Cycle engine. Does anyone have some up to date info on this??? Also, has anyone used the tweaked engine computer for more HP, and replaced the stock struts/shocks???
he told me to just keep monitoring the mpg for a little longer, may be it'll get better, (I think that was his way to tell me that there is nothing they can do for me).
Well, I'm not going to hate the car or start down talking about my car ( I still love the car ), I just wish to know why is it not getting as good of a gas milage as some of the other.
Oh, by the way I did find a site that they commented a bout a poor MPG for the millenia S. If you are interested just go to this site:
http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/display.exe?partner=gte&path=auto~reviews~car~2000MazdaMillenia_roadtest
Also, the K&N filter will not void the vehicle warranty, to find out more, go the below site and click on AIR FILTER FACTS, then click on the VEHICLE WARRANTY.
http://www.performanceproducts.com/Catalog/KNENG/K&N%20Air%20Filter.asp
I hope that helps
Regards
http://www.millenia.mazda.co.jp/
Good Luck
TRY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Appreciate any and all comments, because I really thing the car is unique and a good value regardless of model.
Has anyone else had this problem? Do you know of what the cause might be?
Thanks, Kim
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He offered it at $14,600 + fees. Any comments? At one time, I leased a '95 Millenia and though its 170 hp is "under-powered" compared with the 190+ offerings by the competition, I'm not a speed demon or hell-raiser anymore.
The only drawback, 20 Mpg in LA traffic.
If the car was titled early in the '98 model year (late 1997), then the mileage isn't excessive. But, then again, the three-year warranty period will run out long before the 50K mileage limit is reached.
$14,600 isn't a bad price. The car ran well, did not reek of tobacco, and the touch-up work on the minor scrapes was flawless. Probably a decent deal, but not exceptional.
white cansister: do you have to remove the air filter cover or that bellows looking hose connected to it?
tires: currently have original continental contact touring tires. i am looking at michelin pilots/dunlop/yokohama. go to tirerack.com
End result is the car is going to need a new engine. The head gasket is blown, header warped, rings fried and gouged the cylinder walls, blah, blah, blah. Needs new radiator too.
The car is is SLO with a busy mazda/mitsubishi dealer that seems to have a good rep. The bill will come to $11k for a new engine, and it doesn't seem much chance of a rebuilt as there are so few miller cycles on the market. Anyone know if that seems high for parts and labor to get a new engine, etc.? I'm trying to decide if it's worth it. For those of you who have expressed concerns about the miller cycle engine, this is the downside - it costs a lot and they're not easy to work on so you have fewer alternative to a dealer than with other cars/engines.
Up until know, I've been real happy with it. a few, minor problems, but nothing horrible. Front seats could be more comfortable. That engine can really fly, though.
The shape and length of the intake tube is engineered to move air from a relatively cool location under the hood as quietly as possible--efficiency is considered but intake noise is usually what the designer is trying to minimize.
On my car the intake ends at a hole in the inside panel of the left fender just behind the headlight--the intake tube goes straight down from the airbox to the engine tray, turns sharply toward the left wheel well, then turns up (that’s where the white box is located) and runs to the intake opening in the fender.
The shape and length of the intake tube is engineered to move air from a relatively cool location under the hood as quietly as possible--efficiency is considered but intake noise is usually what the designer is trying to minimize. To some small extent, the length of the entire intake tract may help smooth the airflow and eliminate peaks and dips in the engine's torque curve.
If, when you say “remove the white box,” you're simply disconnecting the flexible plastic joint that joins the airbox to the rest of the intake, you’ve shortened the intake tube and may be drawing cooler air from the area just above the engine tray. Cooler air means more power, and you’ve probably changed the shape of the torque curve (for better or worse). If you’re actually removing the box, the engine will draw air from the original intake opening and the two holes in the tube where the box was mounted. Again, you may be drawing cooler air. In either case, the sound of the engine, particularly at full throttle, will likely be louder.
If you look at the large air tube on the top of the engine between the air box and the throttle body, you’ll see a similar black plastic part (mine is labeled “KL470”) which is also a resonance chamber. In this case, the size and shape of the chamber is designed the smooth the flow of air into the engine within a particular RPM range--changing the size or shape of (or removing) the chamber will change the torque curve of the engine.
I’d like to know if anyone has actually measured 0-30 or 0-60 times before and after removal of the box. "Seat-of-the-pants" dynos are notoriously inaccurate, particularly if the sound of the engine is louder.
The intake tubes are pretty small and look restrictive. I think our cars could benefit from a cold air intake which allows fresh air from outside the engine compartment to be routed directly to the airbox.
George
The major differences among the 2000 and 2001 model will be that as follows (2001) will have:
* GPS - Navigation System
* Eight Speaker Bose Stereo with upgrade Feature
* Larger Center Armrest
* Projector Headlights
* Wood Steering Wheel (top/bottom section)
Most everything else will remain the same - but as everyone is probably already aware, expect last minute changes to the 2001 Millenia before it reaches US land.
The list of changes above is - per Mazda Motors statement, is what consumers wanted to see in the Millenia.
The 2001 Millenia is anticipated to go on sale late September to early October 2000.
Rumur has it that, if these changes to the Millenia increases sales for the Millenia. A complete rebody will be done in 2003.
Regards,
PS - if anyone want to see pics of the 2001 Millenia email me: cabrame@excite.com I have about 14 pictures of it
The 2000 Millenia S, is a phenomenal vehicle in all prospectives. First and foremost owners of this vehicle will be exhilarated with the fact that they won't be driving a car that everyone in their neighborhood has,. (we all know which cars I am referencing to) Secondly, you will be the proud owner of a car that has 210 supercharged horsepower - which will out performance all of its competing models.
The 2000 Millenia S, also has a feature called - "hold" which allows the driver to manually control the transmission for maximum "off-line" performance. Believe me, this feature is 5 times more effective than the Sequential Shift and Tiptronic Shift of its competing models; because it will never become tiresome as a result of it being results oriented and not gimmick oriented like the other transmission control systems currently available on other vehicles.
In addition everything stated above, the 2000 Millenia's interior and exterior build is truly top notch for a car priced under 35K,. The Millenia's leather quality is superb with the perfect amount of firmness.
To avoid making this review to lengthy, I will bring closure to this topic, but simply must restate to all debating purchasers that, the 2000 Millenia S is a spectacular vehicle that will surely impress you whenever you'd least expect it to. - If any of you all concerned about the negative comments that owners have made about the 2000 Millenia or its predecessor, try visiting other forums, you will see an equal balance of gripes from owners their as well - i.e the 2000 TL's and the like -
- "Get in. Be moved"
I Want to buy a base '00, but heard the current rebate of $2250 is over on 9/5/00. Does anyone think this will be extended or maybe even go up as the '01's roll out ? Can you get the rebate and also the 6.9% financing for 60 months? I guess the real ? is should I buy before 9/5 or wait a week or two ? I really enjoyed reading all the info on the previous postings ....Any info would be greatly appreciated. THANKS
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