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26,216.00. I was thinking 23,000.00,22,000.00,or 21,000.00 for the XLE Camry. Does this sound like a good price? If not, what price should I present to the salesman..... Cliffy1 ,and ral2167, you guys were very helpful.... I'm thinking now ,and I'd rather get a a white XLE Camry because it costs less for insurance which I dont understand because it's the same car,but oh well.. I was told why the Gallery or Collectors Edition is more,but still dont get it.
Here's what's in the XLE Camry....
Value Package #2 which consist of:
AM/FM/Cass/In-dash Cd changer.
Leather shift knob.
Power tilt/slide Moonroof with maplight.
Side Airbags.
Carpeted floor.
Mats,and Cargo nets.
Black mudguards in front and back.
Sticker Price is: $26,216.00
What price can I present to the salesperson for this car?
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks!
It looks like you have all the options and other details. Their number were "right on" for me back in April when I first looked ... i.e. compared exactly with my Credit Union's print out for invoice prices.
As other have suggested, the dealer's and competitor's stock will affect the negotiating to some extent. Otherwise, in your favor, I'm sure is that the dealers want to unload these '01's and make room for the '02's. Those suggested "on-line purchases" might be the way to go if you can't get a reasonable price at the dealer.
Edmunds claims their FMV prices are "fair" for the dealer and the purchaser. Maybe someone knows if the prices are pretty well up to date. I've not checked lately. I would have purchased on those numbers already if my "preference" had been available at the local dealerships.
Good luck ... oh yes, consider withholding any emotion when you "deal" on the lots ... until the dealing is done. :-)
If you use regular, the engine will automatically compensate to prevent engine damage and pinging, but you get less power as a result.
These car salesmen are so obnoxious it's not funnny.
You might FAX the offer to dealers that are convenient ... call them up to get their FAX number and tell them what you're doing and give them your name (so they can connect with a serious contact). Let them know you are FAXing to several prospective dealers and ask them to respond with a written counter offer (FAX or EMail).
Let's see ... you may be wanting to ask for an "out the door" price that details all the expenses associated with the sale. Maybe someone else has some experiece with this but I would like to NOT get surprises after an offer gets me into a dealship.
I notice that several of dealers have email sales and perhaps that might be the way to go. I'm thinking about trying that as soon as the specs/options(preferences?) are posted for for the 2002's. I'm weary of dragging around to the lots and it's a bit late to be factory ordering a 2001.
My preference would be for what we call an LE, V6 w/at, Super White/Oak interior. Don't want the spoiler or moon/sun roof. But until the '02's are spelled out I can't really go further with this.
Guess the preferences from the dealers are already in ... if production is starting in a couple of weeks.
Good luck ... and let us know if you find a deal that works!
I did check the incentives ,and rebates ,and my Mom told them about the rebates ,and incentives when she contacted these dealerships ,and no saleman want to give me a rebate or incentive... Furthermore, I was watching a movie that I taped over this past weekend ,and it went to commerical,and Toyota was advertised ,and it said that you could get a total savings of 2,250.00 on a Camry,visit your Toyota Dealership before this Sales Event ends July 9,2000. Rebates are out there ,and they're not expired,and there's a "Toyota Sales Event" and it's advertised and yet nobody wants to give a rebate,or incentive or 2,250.00 off the sticker price.
Today my Mom and I are gonna go to the same dealership that we went to yesterday and the guy said that there are no rebates and there is. The reason why we are going to that dealership is because the two other dealerships that she called
gave her a hard time about the price cause nobody wants to give a rebate or incentive... Another dealership that she talked to couldn't locate the car that he thought he could,but he could locate another,but it was in Indiana or somewhere like that ,and he wanted 2 or 3,000.00 extra for the effort. I called the same dealers she did ,but I called in the morning,and some gave me different information about the inventory they have,but I dont know why,maybe it's because I sound young,but I'm not, I'm 26 ,and I'm gonna be 27 in November, god I'm getting old.lol...
Anyhow no dealerships want to give rebates or incentives,or the 2,250.00 off of a Camry.
Either they really did hurt this spring when nobody was buying cars cause of the economy or the
dealerships that we've talked to are just plain greedy..
My Mom even called one dealership and asked if they had a white xle ,and they said "no",and said they know of two ,and they'll call and see if they can get either one ,and the place that they called was the place that I am going today
to make an offer to the saleman,and he will not give up his white XLE Camry that he has,and neither will the other place,and said that "the car is gonna be sold at the dealership and end of story".
So I guess we'll see what happens today at the dealership that I am going to... I'll know later if I have a White 2001 XLE Camry not...
I dont believe any of these salesmen, I call dealerships myself ,and ask... I'm gonna see what Spartan has just in case this salesman doesn't except the offer... My Mom even called the dealership that we are going to today and talked with someone else ,and made an offer,and the guy said that he'll have to talk it over with his boss,and the boss is the man is the salesman that we are gonna be making the offer to,anyway the boss refused it.
Thank god, I dont get a new car every 2 or three years cause if I did ;then, I'd have an ulcer as big as a grapefruit...lol. Anyhow, I'll let you know what happens today...
Thanks Charles!
Courtney
I like Toyota Camrys,and I'm happy with the one I have now,and it's a 94....
I just dont know what I'm gonna do next as far as getting a 2001 Camry if this guy doesn't take the offer. I'm gonna tell him once my mom gives him the offer that he can take or leave it, that's the final offer,and it is a 2001.. I've got some serious thinking to if this saleman doesn't take the offer ,and I have a strong feeling that he wont take it.. I'll give you all a update,and I'll stay in touch with you guys when I do get a a 2001 Camry cause I love it in here. You are all soo nice and helpful...
Especially if they have not moved them as the end of the month approaches I expect they should start to try to work your deal somehow.
Oh yes, we've still got our '85 Camry ... and will keep it a bit longer! But I guess I'll trade in the 90 Mitsu LE, our "main" transportation.
When I bought the '85 I went out of town and ordered it through a dealer over 50 miles from here. He got exactly the car I wanted delivered from Japan in about 3 weeks. It was already in transit and all he had to do was request the vehicle to be forwarded on his dealership. Since you know the FMV of what you're trying to buy then you might look outside your immediate vicinity and see if anyone out there wants a quick collection of their holdback.
Lastly, one local dealer offered to have my preference "driven" in but the cost was to have been $300, not $2 or $3 grand!!! The car had already been driven to it's present site about 200 miles from here. I couldn't warm up to the idea back in April especially when he said I didn't have to take it if I didn't like it after it arrived.
After reading these posts it seems like we may need a "Dealing with the Dealer" group.
(gee, I should check, maybe there is one.)
Good luck!
Oh, in case you were wondering what the regional TDA (advertising) fees are used for, this is it. All rebates and incentives are paid from the TDA fund.
Mine is an odd ball car because it has some of the frillies of a XLE (V6 wheels and wood-trim). Go figure. I was wondering if anyone else has a bluish gray interior. Or are all other gray interiors have blue in them. All the other cars I test drove had oak interior so I'm not sure if this is another oddity. Anyway, I absolutely love the car. I haven't had the car long, but I absolutely love the V6. It purrs on the road. Never get shift shock. Also, I was told by a mechanic that the V6 engines last longer than the V4. I'm not sure the basis of this, but I assume it's because there's less demand on the engine from heavy footed drivers like me.
Thai, when did you purchase your Camry? That figure seems fairly high to me unless you took the special financing instead of the rebate. It is about $600 over invoice which isn't disastrous unless you selected the rebate in which case you got taken to the cleaners.
This is a good deal if the dealer treated you fairly.
This brings me to a question that I will post over at the Sequoia Forum. Thanks alot.
And I completely agree that the LE V6 is hard to find. I think I visited 6 dealerships at least twice each in the Baltimore-Washington area for 2 months, and found 3 of them. And the one I got was the only silver, Japanese made vehicle. A week before I found my car, I almost gave up by getting a gallery or collectors edition. I'm glad I waited an extra week. Some people like the two-tone. But it's just not me.
Thai, I think you got a great deal too. I remember a vehicle at carmax with the same options as yours and I think you got a better bargin! I would have gotten that car, but it wasn't silver.
I will take it in tomorrow. I am kind of disappointed. 22800 miles, meticulously cared for, too.
others might say different--- just my opinion
Should I be concerned about finding the car I want (LE V6, Silver, Sage Cloth, JBL speakers)?
Should I be so concerned that I need to go ahead and ask a dealer to try to find the car I want and turn my car in early?
So there are still some out there. I'm thinking that if you ask them to find one, it may take a couple of months. But the dealership is going to want to sell you the car, so they'll most likely find one for you. In a couple of weeks, you'll be able to figure out if you like the 2002. And the rebates will probably be better for the 2001. I'm not sure, but I think someone on the camry maintainence msg board posted a pic of the 2002.
I could always go back to an Accord but I drove a LE V6 yesterday and was impressed with the power and the ride. I thought about waiting for a 2002 Altima but a dealer told me yesterday the price was going to be around $32K.
Anyway, what options did you get on your Camry and what did you end up paying (if you don't mind me asking). I want alloy wheels, JBL speakers, cloth interior. I thought a fair price would be around $22K without sales tax or the additional fees.
Thanks for your help.
I got $1400 in rebates. So I ended paying $22.5K on the road (includes 5% Maryland tax, $132 for tags, and any other fees). Someone on this msg board (Thai) paid $22.1K on the road (also from Maryland) for a car with options similar to the ones you want minus the alloy wheels. I hope this helps.
All in all, this Camry has been more trouble that my wife's Dodge Grand Caravan, and seems to be assembled with a general lack of attention to quality. The seats have become saggy and uncomfortable after just 18 months and nearly 23K miles. Numerous creaks and rattle from the front passenger seats and dash area.
I drive conservatively and maintain meticulously. I intended to keep this car for 10yr/200K miles, but am now rethinking this. Probably will not get a Toyota, and this kinda surprises me.
I must say I am disappointed. I think that the current Camry is as bad as many other makes that don't have the reputation for quality. I think Toyota is getting complacent, and I am sure that market forces will catch up with them in due course.
But I will tell you what, I also have a 90' Camry and a 94' Accord, that that Accord; which is supposed to be the next best thing to Camrys, is second rate to my 90' camry with 250K miles. What other choices are there out there? Not much! I can live with the Camrys problems as long as there engine are bullet proof and they keep running for 200-300K. Besides where would I prefer to have my car assembled? Mexico, South America, I'd walk before I travel that route.
The way I see it, I don't have $50,000 to blow on a Lexus or Mercedes yet, so I'll take what I got. I hope you get your Camry fixed what ever the problem is. If not, then we are all in trouble.
I also got the undercoating option which is part of the package, and I believe it's worth it if you live in colder climates where they put salt on the roads during Winter. I'm not sure if it really soundproofs the car better though.
If you do opt for the package, I would try bargaining for it. $619 sounds like a lot. I paid around $600 CDN for it.
I was gonna post a posting for gagirl,but I read her posting again thank god, I was gonna give her advice about waiting for a 2002. Not awake yet this a.m.LOL
Earlier sneak peak, but has some nice pictures.
http://www.mag-x.com/scoop/camry0103/index.html
Latest sneak peak.
http://www.mag-x.com/scoop/camry0106/index.html
Here is a larger more detailed picture.
http://www.geocities.com/busybeetoys/scoop/edn34-camry-front.jpg
Just to add something new to the paint protection debate, I want to tell ya'll something I learned yesterday. We are looking at offering spray-in bed liners on our trucks. I asked the company owner if they needed to scuff the paint to get the liner to adhere to the paint. His answer was that they didn't unless we had applied our paint sealant. "That stuff is really hard and it doesn't melt. We've got to hit the bed with sandpaper to get through it before the liner will adhere to the paint."
I was a bit shocked at this. I had been told of how hard this stuff was, but I didn't realize it was that strong. It leads me to think that there could be some value for some people. Guys like me that are lazy and don't wax the car every 2 weeks could probably benefit the most.