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Acura RL



  • Ahhh, the joys of suburan living ...

    Yes, one day I might learn to change my own oil. As of now, I live in an apartment building and I don't even have my own parking spot, let alone a garage to change my oil in. I leave my key at the garage, where they jam the car into whatever little space they have at the time.

    Isn't city living great?

    Anyway, I'd like to thank everyone again for all the advice. I feel better knowing that there are others out there who have faith in the Acura product.


  • I have a 2000 RL which came with 215/60/16 tires. I know that in 2001 or 2002 Acura increased the tire size to 225/55/16. Has anyone with a 2000 or older RL increased to the 225/55/16 size when they replaced their tires? If so, have you noticed any problems (e.g. rubbing, spedo incorrect, etc.)? If no one has switched, does anyone know if there would be any problems switching?

    Thank you.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 318
    I used Scratch X on my SUV. It's not bad consider it's only $7. What color is your car? Mine is white. Scratch X covers up the scratches pretty nicely, but don't expect that the scratches will disappear totally.
  • The ABS motor on my 97 RL runs loudly for about 20-30 seconds upon start-up. Within 10 minutes the ABS light comes on, and then the ABS system no longer works. The local Acura dealer is happy to replace my accumulator/modulator for $1300 or so (no longer in warranty). It seems like several people have had similar problems. My questions are 1) Since this is a fairly common defect, does anyone know of special extended warranty coverage from Acura to cover this problem?; and 2) I wonder if the accumulator/modulator can be repaired instead of replaced? Any feedback will be appreciated. On a six year old car, I doubt that it makes sense to pay $1300+ on the ABS system.
  • 2003 RLs have $3,500 marketing support. The first dealer (Tustin Acura) that contacted me offered to sell me, over the phone, a RL for $35,421. The invoice is $38,921 (including $500 shipping) and the marketing support (to the dealer?) is $3,500. I used the Edmunds dealer feature - it worked well.

    It may be cheaper to buy a 2003 than lease.

    The residuals on the 2003 is ~47-48% (~$21.9k), down from 54% ($23.3k)on the 2000. The 36mo/15k yr lease is ~$535 before taxes due to the low residual. My credit union found one for $570 before taxes.

    My insurance company's bank (USAA) is offering 4.99% six year loans, so I'm going to buy out my lease for $23,350 on my 2000 RL, which gives me $376/mo payments for six years.

    I hope to be able to sell the car in four years for about the balance due at that time on my loan (~$9,500). I estimate the car will have 110k miles on it.

    If I turned my car in, I would have a $750 mileage penalty due, which would have to be "added" to the cost of any other vehicle that I purchased.
  • Hello,
    I recently purchased my first REAL LEGIT LUXURY CAR. It is an 99 Acura 3.5 RL with 28350 miles. It is the CLASSIC RL color - Nighthawk Black. A lease return from Mass. I just wanted to ask a few misc things that hopefully other RL owners will have experiance with.

    I was going to use Zaino from everyone's recomendation. But i was wondering what everyone uses? Want to get at least a leather conditioner and something that will maintain the AMAZING shine on the black. What should i get - Z-2, Z-3, Z-6 ?

    Also I was wondering if anyone has info on tire sizes. The stock wheels are very nice and shine, but ultimatly i would like my next purchase to be some really nice alloys or chrome rims. I am asking because I remember someone saying that either a 17 or 19 SHOULD HAVE FIT, but didn't and requred shaving. Anyone put on different size tires?

    Any knowlegde on things you have heard or experianced is greatly appreciated!!!!

    I am glad to say that I am now a LEGIT member of this board. I feel SO SO at ease in my RL so far. I bought it Wed, Feb 5th 2003. THANKS
  • mariner7mariner7 Posts: 509
    at the Chicago Auto Show. I think it opens next Friday, 14th. Any info will be appreciated by all! Supposed to have a V8, that's what I read anyway.
  • jfavourjfavour Posts: 105
    I have heard conflicting things. I read today that the 2004 RL is another minor refreshening of the current model with some interior and exterior upgrades and the complete new model won't come out until the 2005 model year. Prior to that I had read people thinking the new 2004 RL would be front wheel drive, based on a lengthened 2004 TL, with a high output V6 or possibly (some people hoped) a hybrid AWD system with a V6. It seems to be the consensus that the new RL will not be a V8 or RWD. I find the latest news (or rumors) very disappointing.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    If you search back 2 or 3 months here, you'll find a number of posts based onw hat was being published re: the hybrid design at that time.

    What is certain: Honda does not have a V8 program and sees no reason to try to beat the Big 3 (MB, BMW, Lexus) at their own game. Honda's strong suit has always been technology. So: ?????

  • diploiddiploid Posts: 2,286
    One thing is almost certain (with Honda rumors, it's never 100% certain)- it's going to be a big V-6...3.8L or 4.0L.

    It's expected to have either 300hp or close to it, and similar torque output. With that in mind, I strongly doubt it'll still be FWD, unless Honda can manage to prevent torque steer.
  • I just purchased a 2000 RL (my first real luxury car as well) and have many questions. Email me at and we can discuss each others questions and maybe help each other out.
  • I hope everyone had a good weekend. _code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=07799113

    According to, Acura says rear drive is not critical to its success.

    It says that Acura coupes and sedans with up to 270hp still have a luxurious feel with front drive. Anything more would require all wheel drive.

    It looks like the next RL will have AWD. Isn't it supposed to debut at the Chicago Auto Show this weekend?
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    thanks for the link. That's a dealer who said that, viper, not an Acura spokesperson. Of course he may still know something.... it could happen!

    And the RL is due for Chicago, at least according to the Edmund's teaser for the show.

    It's my guess (or hope?) that the TSX ($$) will now fill the bill above the RSX ($) and the TL/CL can move up a notch higher ($$$) with the new RL ($$$$) with full features and between $45k and $50k .... still safely below the MB, BMW, and Lexus price floor but (fingers crossed) with a technologically advanced platform.

    It doesn't need to be wildly popular (a luxo hybrid would be interesting) but it does need to be attractive enough to give a halo effect for the rest of the lineup, along with the '05 redesign of the NSX which is also long overdue, no matter how lovely it is.

  • A Ferrari you can drive every day.

    Why didn't anyone else think of it?

    Makes me want to go out and buy lotto tickets!

    Honda definitely has the goods to go head to head with MB, BMW, Lexus, and Infiniti. I wonder why they're so conservative. Is it because of cash? They're relatively small compared to the other players, so maybe they don't want to throw cash around like it grows on trees.

    You would think that they would have a decent amount of money lying around from the 400,000+ Accords they sell every year in North America alone.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    But the name of their game is profit. Do they have a "loss leader"? I can't think of one. If they get heavily into competition, or too much into the smaller niches (like peformance) then they may not get the return they are used to. No dummies there, just us hungry customers (maybe).

  • diploiddiploid Posts: 2,286
    Honda was, at one point, the smallest of the so-called Japanese Big5. Now they're the 2nd largest, and the only other Japanese brand left that's independently owned. Don't think they'd want to mess with a formula that's been very good to them so far. So if bland and conservative cars got them this far, why mess with it?
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    I went on the Chicago Auto Show website and used their live cameras to panned in on the Acura booth while still under construction and it looked like the RL is pretty much unchanged.

    The lights were on so it was hard to see the front. I snapshot the picture, but can't seem to get the imc src syntax right to put it here.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Honda definitely has the goods to go head to head with MB, BMW, Lexus, and Infiniti. I wonder why they're so conservative. Is it because of cash? They're relatively small compared to the other players, so maybe they don't want to throw cash around like it grows on trees.
    Based on my observation, Honda's strategy appears to be profit based growth. This could be one of the reasons why they managed to grow slowly but steadily, even in bad times. Unlike Nissan, they may not be willing to take financial risks, especially in a competitive market, and be gobbled up by a larger player. Nissan too, could revive its lineup because of the cash flow it received from Renault, otherwise $37 billion in debt is nothing to brag about.

    From sales point of view, the marketing execs must believe that there is little to no advantage going RWD, and they may be right. Acura may be heading in the direction that Audi has been using, and Volvo is trying to emulate as well, FWD layout, with optional AWD. This may be reflected in next RL. Even for 2004, it wouldn't surprise me if Acura lifted the power train off Acura MDX, including VSA, and put it in the RL. It would give the flagship a much needed shift in terms of bragging rights, the 260 horses to go with it.
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