2013 and Earlier - Toyota Sienna Prices Paid and Buying Experience

cracovian

Definitely 08 - it has rear discs, traction and stability control.

kracny

Internet sales guy I'm working with on an XLE Limited is hitting me up for these fees. He was unable to explain them to my satisfaction, and he didn't 'sell' me on why these were my financial responsibility! Can someone provide a laymans definition of what these add-ons are?

Dealer Holdback = $713
WFS = $356
TDA (advertising?) = $500

Thank you in advance!

kyfdx

Are you offering $XXX over invoice? Those are all charges on the dealer's invoice.....

kracny

We are working from an Inventory Detail report that lists MSRP and Dealer Invoice charges (that jive with Edmunds and others). We are currently at/around invoice including rebate, but these addons have come into play after that...and as I said, the explanations were lacking.

I was hoping to get otd around invoice, maybe I'm being unrealistic...?

kyfdx

The actual Toyota invoice is pretty convoluted..

Edmunds base invoice price already includes WFR and Holdback... If you look at their actual invoice, you'll notice that the base invoice is lower than Edmunds by the amount of those two items...

So, ask to see their invoice, and go from there...

TDA is an advertising charge that varies by region... it's also on their invoice.. but, not on Edmunds (since it varies).

This is the danger in negotiating "Invoice + $XXX" deals... Who is to say what the true invoice is?

kracny

Good Stuff kyfdx! Thank you for your time!

I guess I need to abandon my invoice centric negotiating style!

Thank you again for the input. I really enjoy this board.

kyfdx

Knowing the dealer's cost, and a fair profit is a good way to determine what you want to pay...

But, using the term "invoice" to negotiate with the dealer is just an exercise in frustration...

IMO, of course!

eddieras

09 Sienna XLE FWD - option 3 (dvd), tow, deicer/fog, alloy, mats, cargo, and first aid kit - for $27996 plus tax and title - libertyville IL

what'd you guys think?? trying to wrap this deal up this week - so thanks again in advance

cillian

one owner
22,3000 miles
DVD
moonroof
CD changer
power sliding doors/rear door
leather seats
car really doesn't look used at all..
except I think this car was used at the beach -- as a vacation car-- based on the low low mileage and sticker on the car about the beach-- also some possible salt corrosion on battery-- should this be a concern?
toyota certified.

18K even OTD
Is this a good price?
Should we negotiate?
should we ask them to add aux for IPOD? or Bluetooth?

should we ask them to add

ateixeira

Seems fair for CPO, but it is sort of close to a new car price.

I just went through the same thing with a Miata. 07-08 used ones were $17+, and new ones were only about $2-4 grand more, so I went with new.

You sure the new ones are 23400? I recall CEs starting around 21000. Maybe yours has packages, though.

wzhy70

one owner car clean carfax.
7 Passenger Seating, Air Conditioning, Rear Air, Power Steering, Power Windows, Power Door Locks,
Tilt Wheel, Cruise Control, AM/FM Stereo, Multi CD Player, Dual Front Air Bags, Dual Front Air Bags, ABS (4-Wheel),
Roof Rack, Privacy Glass

15900 sound fair, please advise

dacarpenter

This is the quote I have received today ( Ma dealer) :

OPTION #1: (8-PASSENGER)
==========================
Stock #92XXX
2009 Sienna LE
Front-Wheel-Drive
V6 Automatic
Ext.Color: Silver
Int.Color: Taupe
ACCESSORIES/PACKAGES: {Included}
[FE] 50 State Emissions.
[AL] 16" Alloy Wheel with P215/65R16 Tires.
[QF] LE Extra-Value Package #2 - Includes: Power Driver & Passenger
Sliding Door, Rear Door Electronic Locking System, Trip Computer
w/Homelink and 8-Way Power Driver Seat.
[RL] Daytime Running Lights & Windshield Wiper De-icer Grid.
[CF] Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector.

-MSRP: $28,135
INVOICE: $25,907
APPROVED SELLING PRICE: $23,221
(after rebate applied)

Looks like with newly redesigned 2010 soon hitting lots prices of 2009 are gonna go down significantly. Let's see what April brings us.

chas22

I am negotiationg the purchase of a 2009 XLE. The dealer has offered a Platinum Extended Warranty, 6y/100,000mi for $1350. Is an extended warranty worth considering? What is a fair price, if it is negotiable.

eddieras

hey guys - i'm thisclose to finalizing this purchase and need some feedback -

09 Sienna XLE FWD - option 3 (dvd), tow, deicer/fog, alloy, mats, cargo net and first aid kit - for $27996 plus tax and title - libertyville IL

what'd you guys think?? trying to wrap this deal up this week - so thanks again in advance

dsmking1

Shouldn't cost over $750.00 for that. Read this thread and you will get all the info about MOLLETOYOTA, Kansas City's and another midwest dealer. They offered $550 and $559 for 7/75k platinum and the dealer wanter $1300. Good luck

Kirstie_H

A reporter is hoping to connect with people who recently bought a new vehicle and intend to drive it on vacation in the coming months. Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than March 31, 2009, and be sure to note what vehicle you purchased and what you think will make it functional and fun during your vacation.
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com

gxrant

Hi All,

I am currently in the market for the following car:

2008 Toyota Sienna 8 Passenger FWD LE
AL- 16" Alloy Wheels
QF - LE Extra Value Package # 2
RL - De icer
CF - Floor mats

I am in las vegas/southern utah area.

The lowest price I have recieved is for 23,910 that includes the $1500 rebate, and does not includes taxes

Is it better to wait till after March 31st to see if they offer further incentives??

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Grant

dsmking1

That is too much for a 2008 model. For 2009 with similar, I got an offer for 23335+ Tax+Title.

gxrant

Hi All,

I am currently in the market for the following car:

2009 Toyota Sienna 8 Passenger FWD LE
AL- 16" Alloy Wheels
QF - LE Extra Value Package # 2
RL - De icer
CF - Floor mats

I am in las vegas/southern utah area.

The lowest price I have recieved is for 23,910 that includes the $1500 rebate, and does not includes taxes

Is it better to wait till after March 31st to see if they offer further incentives??

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Grant

I meant 2009 Sorry

kktmv

Any idea how much is fair value of a dealer installed leather option on a 2009 LE ?

nardz

dsmking1
hey can't believe you got 23335 i was offered 26000 how did you get that deal

iwantnew

did any of you looked for FWD with 17" wheels

is it possible to get?

thanks

rolz

Sounds ok. I got a base quote of $23,020 for the LE8, but around here you can't get a plain Sienna LE. They all come with a package and the package 2 comes with AL and RL (adds $767 to the total), then they throw in some other post production options to top off their margin.

This afternoon I bought a 2009 LE 8 seater
QF Package #2
AL 16" alum wheels
RL day lights
Z1 - Preferred Accent Pkg (floor mats and some other useless crap)

Paid 24000 which includes the $1000 rebate. (wish I had the 1500 seen elsewhere around the country). does not include tax, title, registration, and $250 doc fee.
This is in New Jersey.

pray4all

Hi from the info here, it seems BOCH toyota (Norwood) give decent price. does anyone know how much is the doc fee they have? I was told $300, is it right?

thks.

sfhondapilot

Thought I would toss in my information.

2009 XLE AWD Limited
EVP2
MSRP 41,435
Price 35,400 (after the 1,000 March incentive)

At the finance department, they tried to sell me the platinum warranty for $1200 (said 50% off the normal price of $2400). I declined and will probably pick it up from Molle Toyota.

dsmking1

OTD is 25K even rounded. Does 26K is OTD?. 24.5K may be a little above fair price. probably 24.5K is fair.

steved192

Hoping somebody can help me here....we are working with a dealership that we have dealt with before. They are quoting me $31000 for an 09 XLE....it doesn't have DVD, back-up camera, or Navigation. Sticker is $32000 and I know there is an incentive for $1000. Plus, they are shorting us about $2000 on our Camry trade in (they say because of the current incentives on Camry's) and trying to get us to finance the inequity.

I'm wondering where we should be on the Sienna? What is a fair price, including dealer holdback? Thanks for the info.

dsmking1

Post #8963 is answer "09 Sienna XLE FWD - option 3 (dvd), tow, deicer/fog, alloy, mats, cargo, and first aid kit - for $27996 plus tax and title - libertyville IL

what'd you guys think?? trying to wrap this deal up this week - so thanks again in advance "

sallya77

We had a great experience at a Molle Toyota in Kansas City, MO. We did tons of research on the internet and then went in and told them what we wanted. The sales guy and sales manager were courteous, efficient and knowledgeable. Here is a breakdown:

2009 XLE Slate exterior, leather gray interior:

QJ Option package 3 - DVD
EJ Upgraded 10 spkr sound
LF Fog lams / daytime running lamps
AW Alloy wheels
WO rear and front sonar for parking assistance

Total out-the-door price: $29,800 + Taxes, Title, License
We took the $1,000 rebate incentive instead of the low rate on financing available.

So the actual price we negotiated with them was: $30,800+ Taxes, Title, License

Probably not the deal of the century, but we are very happy

Happy shopping.

pray4all

wondering the same Q.
what's your dealer name?

big_chief

Any suggestions on where to get the best deal on a new CE? I only need two option packages: AG (CE Pkg 1, Roof Rails and Cruise) and TO, the Towing Prep Package.

I can't get one with the Towing Package where I am in NY state, so will travel to get it. Hopefully no farther west than Chicago, no farther south than North Carolina.

Thanks for any help!

pray4all

from my research, MA seems have better deal in northest region. check some dealers website there and make offering, for CE, seems 5-6k off MSRP is achievable.

jdeany

With EV #2,
Alloy wheels
Carpets

Price quoted is 24500( not including TTT/dealer fees just the base with options). This is in Georgia. Is that too much? I saw a post from MA with LE for 23200.

Anyone has any idea what a decent price is for Sienna in the South East?
Thanks

kktmv

Looks like all the best deals are in MA. In the FL area, I haven't seen anybody quote less than 24200 without tax+title for an 8 passenger LE with EVP #2. BTW, this includes the rebate of 1500. Good luck!

dsmking1

Not so.

Just bought a 2009 LE 7 passengers with evp#2, CF, AL, RL & 50 states emission for $23335.00 + 6% tax, ttl + 99 doc fee. Total OTD was $25161.00. They offered 8 passengers for the same price. But we decided to go with 7 passengers after test driving them. Over 95% of the time, we have less than 7 passengers. We could pick any vehicle on the lot with those specifications without haggling. This was at Fitz Mall in Gaithersburg, MD. Harmeet was great and also the other folks. There are two other posts asking for the dealership info. Also, it was a very busy day. We were there before 11:00 Am, and they already sold 6 vehicles and there was a line to close. We were wondering what happened to economy. Best thing was no haggling. Just showed an Ad and they matched with better options and any vehicle on the lot, unlike in the Ad which was for a specific vehicle which was not in stock. We were repeat customers.

Hope it helps.

samhedge

Just bought a 2009 LE 7 passengers with evp#2, CF, AL, RL & 50 states emission for ($23000.00 + 7% tax + 350 doc + 250 DMV fee) in NJ. I was excited to get the black color I wanted. Added dealer installed leather and heated seats for 1,600.

This forum and site helped me to buy the car for a bit less than invoice.

kktmv

Great deals. Does 23000 include the 1600 ? Any idea how much was the leather ?

samhedge

1600 is on top of 23000. 1600 is for leather on all 7 seats plus 2 heated seats in front.

rolz

ahh! I think I paid about $500 too much for mine. Where in NJ, may I ask did you buy yours?

bhoward99

I posted a review and our experience about this dealership on Edmunds dealership reviews web site.
http://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/Virginia/Fairfax/OurismanFairfaxToyotaScion/i- ndex.html

The dealership had a good selection of Sienna FWD mini-vans,
in a variety of exterior / interior colors, which is why we drove 4.5 hours from NC to check them out.

However, our buying experience was terrible. The dealership plays the game where the sales associate helps you drive and pick the car/van you want, talks about the various options, etc.
Then once you are ready to make a deal, you deal the numbers with someone else.

The dealership is very slow, inefficient, and they make you wait
throughout the whole process. We were not financing, or trading in a car. It should of been a very easy deal.

We did not buy a car from them. In the end, the salesman was very rude, had misplaced our information, and made us wait. we walked out of the dealership without a new van.

eddieras

April incentives?? any ideas?

big_chief

Thanks for the responses recommending Massachusettes as the best place to get a good price on a CE, but please remember that I need to have the towing package, which is not available on the CE in Mass, or NY, where I am.

I need a CE with the factory tow package within a days drive of Upstate New York. Best deals anyone?

Thanks!

wzhy70

the seller did not want to bargain at all. paid in full 15900 eventually. Included a car alarming system
Not bad.

bhoward99

Finally found and purchased a Sienna FWD Limited with the following options:

Silver Shadow Pearl / Stone Leather Interior / FWD / 5356
RF - Rear Spolier
CF - Floor Mats / Door Sill Protector
RM - Daytime Tunning Lights
HP - Hood Protector
TH - Third Row power seats
QL - Navigation / Bluetooth / DVD / Backup camera

$34,200 before taxes, doc fee, and license.
Leith Toyota in Raleigh.

Dealt with their Internet sales department. Great Experience.
Easy to deal with. I would recommend.

fmichael

May I ask what the MSRP was?

bhoward99

The MSRP on the 2009 Sienna FWD Limited 38,544 (without the rear spoiler or hood protector).

They tac'd on 379.00 for the rear spoiler, and threw in the hood protector.

rolz

Here is what is says on the sticker:

Delivery Processing and Handling fee 745.00
SUB-TOTAL BEFORE DISCOUNT $29,298.00
Extra Value Package MSRP Discount - $1,085.00

TOTAL $28,213.00

fmichael

Thanks :shades:

steved192

Can someone please tell me if $29400 (this includes the current incentive) is a good deal for an XLE with no added features. I think they can go lower, they say they cannot at all.

Does anyone know why a sales manager is telling me that invoice is about $1000 over what edmunds.com shows it as? I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around such a big discrepancy, and this manager says edmunds is wrong.

steved192

I'm sorry- I meant to say that this manager is telling me that invoice is $3000 over what edmunds says.