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  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
    But, in Reno it's a lot handier. What is the handyness of repair rating of rare cars in remote locations?
  • Anyone know what stock Alpine model is installed in the S-Type? I am interested in adding XM radio but I don't know if it can connect to the current Alpine or do I have to replace it? Also any idea where to get the communication system if my dealer does not sell the car with one?

  • I am looking for a 2003 S Type 4.2 ebony with tan interior, nav system, alpine sound, heated seats, xenon lights. Does yours match?
  • There is an archived discussion ending on 08/19/02 on the above topic. I am now in the market for one or the other. Should I request that topic be reopened or just start here?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    What questions do you have? This is really a personal choice and not something that can be debated (although many try). Which model(s)? 525, 530, 540, M5? 3.0 or 4.2 S-type? What are your priorities? You can't go wrong with either one.
  • I'm a dealer.. and I wholesale a LOT of used S-Types (I just bought 5 of them last week for example). So, figure I have about 15 pass through my hands a month.. times, say, 3 years... I've probably handled over 350-400 being a tad conservative.

    I have NEVER seen that problem. EVER.

    But here's what I have seen:

    A 2000 LS400 caught on fire at an auction.
    A Rolls Royce with low miles that had been fanatically maintained throw a rod.
    A 2003 Honda Accord with a bad transmission.

    ANYTHING can break on ANY car. Hope the above is some consolation.. I'm sure the car will be fine.

  • Is it a 4.0?? If so it can't be a 2003. 2003s use the 4.2L engine!

    What options does it have? Color combo? etc?

    I can give you an idea of market if I have some more info...

  • Bill! You're back! I'm so happy to see you!
  • Good to be back!

    Wait till you get to drive the X350 :D
  • A chance to drive any Jag is a treat! :-D
  • I'm looking at a '92 XJ-S Sovereign at a local independent dealer. The car has 34,000 original miles and a clean carfax report. What should I look for?
  • Lots of stuff.

    XJ-S? Sovereign? Maybe it's an XJ6 Sovereign? XJ-Ss are two-door coupes.. Sovereigns are 4-Door sedans.

    (This belongs in the XJ Series Jag topic tho..)

    Here's what you need to check on an XJ40...

    1) Head gasket oil leaks ($500 job, $1K at dealer, Probably $2K at the Orlando dealer). Check the base of the distributor, if it's wet an oily, that's a bad head gasket. OTOH, this does not affect running of the engine, it's an external oil leak and not a "Must-Fix NOW" job.

    2) Differential. It had better be quiet. (Groaning/Vibration under deceleration from the rear of the car....) Groaning diff is a $500-1500 job depending on what it needs.

    3) Self-Levelling rear suspension. It sucks. It WILL fail, so the car should have been converted by now. If it is sitting low in the rear, it was not done right. The easiest way to check is to look at the hydraulic valve block (Has metal hydraulic hoses going to it) on the passenger side inner front fender. It's by the power steering resivoir. Feel on the bottom of it.. on the back end (The end closes to the back of the car) there should be one hole plugged with a big bolt. That's good. Again, $500 job.

    4) Rust. Edge of trunklid, front corners of hood, A-Pillars, base of rear window (If it's on the A-Pillar or below the rear window, don't buy it unless you want to spend $1,500+ to fix it properly)

    5) That wood trim is not cheap. Make sure it's nice.

    6) Door handles. They CAN break, but if they are stiff they WILL break unless adjusted (Very minor)

    7) Warning lights. ABS and "BRAKE" will take a few seconds to go out when started from cold. If the "BRAKE" light is on or comes on when you hit the brakes, hit the "VCM" button to the right of the steering wheel. If it says "PAD" then it needs new brakes. No biggie. If when running and warmed up, hitting the brake pedal less than about 5 or 6 times quickly causes the ABS and BRAKE lights to come on, then it needs a new accumulator. $250 or so. Labor cheap, you can do it yourself if you are VERY careful, part is $180.

    8) Headliners sag in the south.. $125-250 depending where you go.

    9) Leather is expensive to fix.

    10) Tires. Unless it has 205-70R15 Michelin MXV4s or Pirelli P5s/P4000s, (Alternatively 215-65R15s in V or Z rating of a different brand) it's sitting on the wrong tires and won't handle properly.

    11) Metallic paints can burn out in the Southern Sun.

    12) Make sure it still has the VIN on the doors, decklid, front and rear fenders, hood, etc. Otherwise this points to Paintwork/Accidents.

    13) Once you buy it I would suggest changing the hoses. 3-4 hours labor plus $180-200 for ALL the hoses.

    Ad nauseum... I know these cars very well, feel free to e-mail me with ???s or post here or in the XJ topic. a NICE XJ40 is a wonderful car for little money. a RAT Will bury you financially.

    So what do they want for this baby?

  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
  • Been dealing with them for 7 years, driving them since I had my license, I am VP of the local club and sell 30-40 a month ;)
  • When it comes to Jags, brentwoodvolvo knows more than just about anyone here... maybe even me! (just kidding, of course he knows more than me.)
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    Jaguar has built a new 3.5 liter AJ-V6, and rumor has it that it will be in use in the X-type, replacing the 3.0 liter or being added to the engine choices. Naturally, the engine would also see life in the S-type then, fitting in between the 3.0 and 4.2 liter. Any thoughts?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    If they ditch the 3.0 for the 3.5 it'd be a step in the right direction, the 3.0 S-Type isnt the fastest thing in its' class...

    Although I am looking for a 5-Speed for meself ;)
  • cekscceksc Posts: 20
    My s type 3.5 is now two years old and I have had NO problems with the car. I highly recommend the car. It is much more than a Lincoln. All you need to do is drive down the street with one. I believe it is one of the most attractive cars on the road and certainly one of the most attractive in its price range. I have one year to go on my lease and I believe I will be hard pressed to find a car that I like any more than this one.
  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    It's not about getting there the fastest, and while the S-type 3.0 isn't the fastest car in its class, it's not by any means slow.

    It's all about the unique "Jaguar-ness" that nothing besides a Jag can give you...
  • rstoergerrstoerger Posts: 17
    I have had my S-type for nearly three years and honestly love it. Never had any major issues. I am about to end this lease and have been considering getting into a brand new one...which has some excellent improvements.

    While the past two winters have been mild, this year's has not. My car does not do well at all in even the mildest slush. As such, I am reconsidering getting into a new one lest the upcoming winters be bad.

    Has anyone had either positive or negative issues regarding S-Types in Snow. How about the four-wheel drive X-Type?
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    It's not the car, it's the tires. Get the car you want, then get a good set of winter tires.
  • rstoergerrstoerger Posts: 17
    I have to ask you about the tire thing. My problem isn't related to just the rear tires. The front end is sliding out. I have spoken with others driving S-Types and they have the same problem. Will snow tires on all fours really make a difference?
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Why would the front end be more immune to loosing traction than the back? The front has the same amount of rubber touching pavement as the back, and is just as compromised on ice or slick roads as the back. Any time the roads are slick and you nail the brakes and turn at the same time, your fronts will slide, your car will keep going straight and you'll have almost no braking. I had this happen in a rainstorm in my T-Bird once. I replaced the el-cheapo Firestones on the car with a set of Michelins, and it helped 1000%. Get a good set of snow tires, and then drive like the roads are icy and you have no traction, and you'' be fine. And the number one rule to remember in iclement weather is that it is not a race. Take your time, use common sense, and slow down, and it doesn't matter what you're driving, you can usually make it. If there's snow on the ground, and you're passing any car that is still moving foreward, you're going way too fast. Last week we had freezing rain and sleet cover our roads with ice, and I had to drive in it. Luckily, my grandma was in town, and her car has ABS and is FWD, so that helped not having to drive my V-8, RWD hogs. Anyway, the whole time I was out in the bad weather, I got passed by just about every other car on the road, but somehow avoided ending up like the Chevy that went nose-first into a tree, or the Escort that slid off the road and got stuck in a ditch until the ice thawed.
  • cfgrosscfgross Posts: 54
    I have Michelin Pilot Alpins mounted on separate 16" rims for the winter. The car handles great in snow, slush or ice (with propper driving technique, of course). I have no qualms about driving in any weather we get here (Philly area), including the blizzard 2 weeks ago.

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Yes they do! Sport pack Ss with the Pirelli P-Zeros are almost undriveable in the snow (Ditto XJSports, XJRs, XKRs...)

    A set of snows makes a tremendous difference, you need 4. 2 to steer, 2 to stop.

    An X will be a bit better, but throw a set of Pirelli Snows on (Or, ideally, if they make them to fit your car, Nokia Hakkapellittas.. yes, same company who makes cell phones).

  • keyrowkeyrow Posts: 214
    I disagree with your assessment that " If there's snow on the ground, and you're passing any car that is still moving foreward, you're going way too fast." It really depends upon the intelligence of the person driving the car in front of you. I live in Cincinnati where most drivers think the speed limit drops to 10MPH at the first sign of a snow flake. I easily pass those who are just plain afraid of snow without ever endangering either myself or anyone else. I also learned how to drive in snow when I lived on the east side of Cleveland, lots of lake effect snow. Experience and reasonableness, if that is a real word, matters. Your statement makes the driver who is most afraid, and should not be out driving, the rule rather than the exception. Sounds like our education system, make the "least smart" individual the standard rather than saying that person is not performing to the expected standard. Sorry, that's another topic.

    BTW I drive an '01 Lincoln LS and I have 4 snow tires (Michelin Pilot Alpines). I have never had a problem with either snow or ice.
  • rstoergerrstoerger Posts: 17
    I appreciate all of the responses to my question regarding snow tires. I love my current S-Type and was looking forward to getting into a new and improved '03 model this April. Needless to say, the snow this winter here in the N.E. gave me cause for concern. I have no problem putting snow tires on. Thanks to the remarks, I will use four next winter (not just two) and give it a shot.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Also make sure you get the Traction upgrade as well!

  • BunkieBunkie Posts: 1
    I am considering the Jaguar S model--what color
    do you think looks awesome on the car??
  • kinleykinley Posts: 854
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