Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier

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  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    Don't buy it. 255 hp at the wheels with a chip and exhaust....NOT. Maybe with a KO4 turbo and a bigger intercooler, but not with the stock setup. Another thing: A chip and exhaust should not cost $2000. Somebody was feeding you a load of crap.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    ....blowing a little smoke up his rear. this is a "pro" shop in Murland. not southern Cali. i believe the chips do what they say they do, provided the evalution is done on the equipment at the place where the chip was purchased/installed. :)

    i just read edmunds entry level sport sedan review. looks like the BMW got it's steering back in good graces with the auto press.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    the reason the passat/audi a4 have 10 less hp is because of the orientation of the engine. less air is able to get sucked into the engine as a result.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Edmunds is on crack. Sorry but the A4 and TL are junk compared to the G and Bimmer.
  • AnakinAnakin Member Posts: 410
    They may not perform as well in your mind, but that hardly makes them junk.

    Jeez.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    i think they are wrong to put the BMW first. i wish they would be a little more original in their thinking. the G is just cheap. like a Mustang. big engine/competent handling doesn't equal great car. to me, the A4 is, and always will be, the wannabe sport/luxury sedan of choice. does everything right, while looking and feeling richer than anything else. of course, none of them come close to looking as nice as the S60....:) my opinion, of course.

    i just saw my first new Z car on the way to work. not bad. not bad at all. 30 day tags. you know that girl was pleased as pie with herself.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I think the G35 looks like that ugly new Altima, hate the way they look. I like the restyle that Audi did with the A4, made a nice looking car even nicer. The Acura is just a dressed-up Accord with a little more power. And from what I have read on the TL board, they are ready to blow their trannies in no time. It's funny that the Cadillac CTS came in last, considering it's an all new design this year. And any comparison test on Edmund's that has a BMW in it is going to have the BMW winning it. You all should know that by now.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I don't know if there were any more mods, but the guy said the car had a StageIII APR chip, was running 104 octane gas, and had a Techtonics exhaust. I have to ask this performance shop what's in their StageIII package. They told me before, but I forgot.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    the CTS. at least it has style. a little bit of flair. it reminds me of a car that would be in "total recall" with arnold s.

    the TL/CL drive nice, but i don't think it is possible to be more generic! again, W8 Passat for me please :) just for the name alone i would take it. oh, the blue lights help too :)
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    I'll bet money there is a bigger turbo and intercooler on that Jetta. There has to be.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    It was a GTI actually, but I don't know. There is a Stage III turbo package available for 5-speed 1.8Ts, and it's said to give 2002s 280hp at the crank. It's $4000 though, includes alot of stuff from what I am told.

    I don't know how this other guy got 255 at the wheels with only the little bit of stuff either. But he did.

    So from the price above, you can get a Jetta 1.8T for ~%18,000 (the new GL 1.8T will be about that much with stick shift), then add the $4000 package for a total of $22,000 for a car with 280hp...
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    No doubt the 1.8T has tons of potential, but you can't get 255 hp at the wheels with the stock turbo and intercooler.

    "So from the price above, you can get a Jetta 1.8T for ~%18,000 (the new GL 1.8T will be about that much with stick shift), then add the $4000 package for a total of $22,000 for a car with 280hp... "

    That'd be crazy. You'd probably spin the hubcabs right off and end up crashing because of the severe torque steer. I don't think the traction control would like 280 hp to the front wheels...
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    the APR Stage II is a bigger turbo, something equivalent the the K04 turbo, basically a Garrett ball bearing turbo...with is associated exhaust manifold....

    have you tried www.goapr.com

    I love their Pro-E model
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    get 255 hp to the wheels, it is the wrong set of wheels!

    God bless RWD!!!
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    That's it! Ball bearing turbo. I forget about that. The guy did say he had that put in too. This sucker whisted really loudly when he revved it up too. The torque steer probably would be phenominal, because I have some in my car with only 180hp. Sure would still be fun though...

    Also, go for the Neuspeed springs. That's gonna be my first mod, to stiffen up cornering potential. And a strut bar too, that's on the way...
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    How could you forget somebody adding a turbo?? Todd's been saying that all along...
    Friday the 13th I guess...
    :D
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    They didn't add a turbo, they changed it. I forgot about that because I was in the middle of like 5 people talking at once about their cars at the meet the other night.
  • deaner14deaner14 Member Posts: 40
    One tip I have to prolong the life of the turbo is to let the car idle for 1 minute after you drive it. This allows the turbo to cool and circulate oil before it is shut down. It could double the life of the turbo.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    ...and all respect will be lost instantly. It wallows, it leans, it's shod in cheap plastic bargain basement interior bits, the tranny's rough, the engine's unresponsive and the whole package culminates in an overall feeling, "American car companies haven't got a clue."

    A4's got a stunning interior and exterior, in my opinion (aren't these all opinions?), and it handles nicely but it's totally flat in terms of power and because it's FWD it's just not entertaining to push (yes Quattro exists and it's still a power-sucking useless doodad for so cal). One big flaw of the A4: no interior room at all. Well another flaw: it's a VW.

    TL...accord with a faster engine and better tranny. Cramped, slow, bland inside and out. The only other time I thought I'd fall asleep on a test drive I was in an 02 Camry SE V6.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Change, add..whatever. Same ship, different pile ;)
  • deaner14deaner14 Member Posts: 40
    One tip I have to prolong the life of the turbo is to let the car idle for 1 minute after you drive it. This allows the turbo to cool and circulate oil before it is shut down. It could double the life of the turbo.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    Sure it has an extra gear....but people still have problems with its reliability
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    That's the automatic you're thinking about. The six speed is fine.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I always do that actually. I put the car in park, set the brake, then gather my things. It's usually 30-45 seconds before I shut the car down. This helps especially if you were just driving the car hard before stopping.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    TLs don't come with a 6-speed though. That's only available for the CL.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    the lovely 2002 325Ci is actually upshifting when you floor it to get through a yellow-red light. perhaps it is true - is GM the only kick-butt automatic transmission maker?

    not to mention, the wood trim is warping on the dash. typical german car issues i guess. i swear, the more you think cars get better as technology gets better, the more one problem is just traded in for another. sure, the BMW has almost 14k miles on it, but BMW won't let me get the oil changed until the car says it is ready for it's oil to be changed. and why would the wood trim be warping and popping off?

    i am reminded everyday that VW is not worse or better than any other maker. same for Kia and Hyundai. same for BMW and Lexus. all cars just plain stink sometimes. at least drive the one that makes you happy!
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    are you sure? I thought he was talking about the 6 speed because he said "one extra gear". Oh well, I could be wrong. Those Acura names are confusing. TL, CL, RL, RSX, ABC, 123. I wish they would have kept Legend, Integra, etc. Anyway, it's the automatics that are giving people headaches, not the manuals which doesn't bother me because I will never own an automatic unless I HAVE to. In general, automatics will always give you more trouble than a manual, ESPECIALLY when you're talking Honda/Acura.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    He was talking automatic. THe Accord V6 (pre 2003) is only available with a 4-speed automatic.

    the 2000 TL got the 5-speed automatic, with sportshift (Accord doesn't have this feature....though there's a significant delay using the sportshift on the 1999 TL 4-speed)
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    That's what I mean by better tranny. I'll take a 5 speed auto over a 4 speed any day and twice on sunday.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    it should be a LAW that ALL car makers that equip their cars with manual tranmission should HAVE to source the gearbox/cluth assembly from old Acura Integra or Mazda (Miata only). Attemping to drive a GTI now after owning those other cars is almost laughable.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    My old Integra had one slick gearbox. The synchros could handle anything you threw at them. Clutchless shifting was also a breeze. The Protege's shift quality is great but the synchros can't handle speed shifts. IMO, Nissan and VW need some work in this department. Imagine a GTI with an Integra gear box and the Protege's or Foci suspension setup.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    VW's are not known for their gearboxes....
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    Don't foget that this (imaginary) GTI should also have body panelling, sound proofing, electricals (especially window regulators) etc from ANY other manufacturer, but VW ;)
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    obviously haven't driven or seen or heard of a Gen IV Jetta/Golf. they are known for, and benchmarked, with regards to body panel quality and fit. sound proofing? the only thing you can hear in a VW is a slight turbo whistle/v6 grumble/2.0 clatter. i want to hear MORE of that, haha :)

    i will give you the window regulators, though i have personally never had problems, i am just waiting for it to happen. :(

    bad body panels on a Gen III VW, for sure. but not in 4 years bud :) the 98 Passat and Beetle changed all that forever.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The VWs are the best when it comes to fit and finish. My VW is 5 times quieter than the Protege I used to have, and it was a 2001. At least the engine doesn't sound like it's going to come through the firewall when you rev it.

    The only thing messed up are the regs, but there are new parts for those and VW is replacing all them for free when they break. So it's all good.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
  • AnakinAnakin Member Posts: 410
    Is that the sound of your engine?

    ;^)
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    that's two comparison tests (those crack heads at c&d being the other) now that the tl-type s came ahead of the g35. just get the bimmer.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Sorry, I don't buy into the BS of any mag or comparo. MT, R&T, C&D, automobile, etc are just glossy toilet paper.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    No, that's the sound of a certain $25K German engineered automobile's beautiful dashboard. I thought you knew that.....
  • AnakinAnakin Member Posts: 410
    Why would I know that? My car has been perfect since I bought it a year ago and over 17000 miles.

    :^)
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    they're for enertainment purposes only. as for toliet paper? ouch!
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    i can't believe some of these last few posts....i LOVE it!
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    Sounds like you need to take your car into the dealer to get it looked at. According to Paul's dealer, the rattles were within the manufacturer's specs. Your car seems to be out of spec. I'd get it checked out.
  • AnakinAnakin Member Posts: 410
    Nice.
  • sntxsntx Member Posts: 33
    Have any of you had any experience or heard anything about the MTX Thunderform subwoofer. It is supposed to be designed specifically for the Jetta IV. It seems like the perfect solution for me because all I want to do is extend the frequency response of my system without sacrificing much trunk space. The problem is it is pretty pricey ($450) So I don't want to take the plunge unless it sounds great. I am not interested in my car 'boomin' or being heard from down the block. I just want the tunes to sound sweet. Well, thanks in advance for any info.
  • AnakinAnakin Member Posts: 410
    I haven't heard of that.

    If I had to complain about my stereo, I would have to say it lacks midrange... I always thought it had enough bass.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-iqByZuTdZ5U/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=10&g=77100&I=236JET10A&o=m&a=0
  • sntxsntx Member Posts: 33
    Thats the one. Anyone have one?
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