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    bmwagonmasterbmwagonmaster Member Posts: 150
    Follow this link. It's from the E46Fanatics. com FAQ section:


    http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html


    Hope this helps.

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    bmwagonmasterbmwagonmaster Member Posts: 150
    Please see above link for 2002 info. Also, Shipo posted awhile back that he has the Thule rack. He hasn't posted lately, but I'm sure he'll be back. You may want to wait until you see him return and then post a message directly to him. Hope this helps.
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    jasonkureejiijasonkureejii Member Posts: 210
    Braveheart,

    Congratulations on the new addition to the family. That's just the icing on the cake now, man! I hope the baby is a healthy and happy one, one who'll enjoy those special trips with Dad in Stroumph Muscle (or however it's spelt)...you're one of the ones sometime ago who inspired me to get the 325i, man, so I wish you the best...now, I just wait as patiently as I can for the ship to depart on a safe journey here...

    Aaron,

    Congratulations on your 330i! It sounds like everything went smooth at the dealership...glad to here it. I'm still waiting for the ship to depart....hopefully, by the end of July like my dealer told me....we'll see...
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    jasonkureejiijasonkureejii Member Posts: 210
    Since the owner's board seemed to never have taken off, why don't all the owners, new and old, give a quick post on the following:

    1) model, color, and specs
    2) geographic area (if they are not too uncomfortable)
    3) length of ownership
    4) 3 reasons for choosing the forementioned apart from the
    many in today's broadening market segment
    5) any regrets or problems uncovered

    Congratulations to all the new owners....hope everyone is enjoying a nice Sunday drive...
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    unboringuyunboringuy Member Posts: 90
    I'm wondering if it's me or is it the 330xi? You may remember that my first 330xi blew up after overheating approximately 6 hours after I took delivery. Well, I finally got number two last week (July 3, to be precise).

    We had some horrible storms here today in Cincinnati, and when I was passing over the "Big Mac" bridge, I noticed that the high winds had knocked a traffic sign over into the highway, blocking the only lane of traffic at that point. I slowed and then was about to maneuver around it on the shoulder. Apparently, the driver behind me wasn't paying attention, because she rear-ended me. Still drivable, but the rear bumper is somewhat torn up, as is the exhaust.

    Now, here's my question. Normally, I take my cars to a particular body shop for repairs, because they do good work. However, I'm thinking that perhaps I'm better off taking it back to my BMW Center (in Dayton) or one of the two local Centers (in Cincinnati), because they would be better able to ensure that anything else that might be damaged is repaired.

    I sure would love to hear everyone's thoughts.
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    cutea79cutea79 Member Posts: 3
    Hi all...

    This is the second time I'm asking this, so sorry for those who have already read it (I'm just looking for more opinions). Anyway, I'm thinking about buying the 325xi in white, but I don't like the black trim around the car (on the doors and bumper). The dealer told me that they could paint it to match the car if I want. I'm not sure if thats such a good idea. A friend told me that the paint would probabily chip off it if its rubber. Is it rubber? Anyway.. what do you guys think?
    Thanks,
    Adrienne
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    jnscheongjnscheong Member Posts: 66
    Sorry to hear about the accident. The main thing is that you are ok, the car (however precious) is secondary. I would take the car to a BMW Center for proper damage assessment Good luck.

    jnscheong
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    jasonkureejiijasonkureejii Member Posts: 210
    I'm not 100% sure, but I think the black trim on the 325s is plastic and not rubber. Ask around or have the dealership show you previous paint jobs they've done on trim. In my opinion, I don't find the trim that unsightly... seems to go with the black window trim, grill and tires, especially on lighter colored exteriors like the the alpine white or titanium silver. Anyway, I'm sure this is not something that should completely avert you from purchasing the car, right? Otherwise, good luck... take a good look at it again if you haven't before deciding....
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    brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Well, I spent most of the day today catching up on the 1,000 or so messages that I missed during my vacation and I'm all up to speed now. I guess none of you believed that I could take my eyes off the board for too long and I thought it was funny someone (Shipo?) was speculating that I might have my laptop with me but only in lurk mode and only after my wife is asleep during our vacation :o) I did do a lot of reading but I have to admit that it was nice to switch to Fitzgerald and Hemingway for two weeks. No offense but although some of you come very close, no-one has quite mastered the language and story-telling like them :o)

    Congrats to all the new BMW owners on the board!! It's inspiring to see so many of you take delivery of your long-awaited babies and enjoy them so much. Also, I'd like to say a warm welcome to all the new faces on the board - this truly is a very civil, intelligent, and fun board and it's great to see new people who stay with us.

    Jason - good idea to introduce ourselves on the Owner's board - I just did that. It may be helpful with the increasing number of posters we have on the board.

    Here are a few notes that I took while scanning the messages from the past two weeks:

    New 2002 model - The overall design looks a little cleaner, a little fresher maybe. I'm surprised they are keeping the side moldings on the sedans but I got to like them better over time and I agree with Platypus that it adds personality to the car. The side blinker/reflector's shape reminds me of Swedish cars somehow and it looks less original. The rear lights are very Passat-ish with the reverse light in the middle and it is very unappealing IMO. The front bumper looks very clean, maybe a little too clean. Are the fog lights too tiny or is it just me? They seem like out of place there. Overall, though, it's very much like the '01 model, just a little fresher maybe.

    Side mirror tilting (325 without the PP and power seats) - don't have it and I have tried all switch positions. Somehow, I was under the impression that it is part of the PP only - kinda like the rain-sensing wipers and armrest.

    BTW, auto tranny is typically slower than manual regardless of whether you need to shift - torque converter eats ponies that never reach the wheel at any speed.

    Fan recall - would you do it if your car has not had any aux fan problems? Is any mileage safe to say OK, I don't have the bad fan?

    Alp - the latest C&D has a 'Vette comparo, which comes out ahead of the M roadster, the SLK320 AMG, and even the Boxster S. I've always liked the 'Vette a lot - it looks good and offers stunning performance for the money. Not just acceleration but also braking and handling but I'd still take the 325 for an everyday car.

    Wagons and babies - although we'd definitely be getting a wagon (probably a 540 or A6) if we are lucky enough to have two children in the future, I think the 325i and A4 are sufficient for a toddler or two. We've been planning accordingly since the beginning of the year and I don't see the need for a bigger car for a few years at least. BTW, whoever said that you can't just turn on the Pregaroni switch was right - it does take a few months of "hard work".

    Name of the month - BoneCrusher Belle (kudos to kominsky). Very creative!
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    aaron330iaaron330i Member Posts: 136
    I couldn't go to sleep last night, so I got up and took a little drive. The atmosphere at night in the bimmer has to be experienced. The light of the xenons is just too cool to describe, and the cockpit inside was backlit beautifully. The whole drive was pure pleasure.

    Today, I decided to take a spin to Marble Falls, TX, with a friend along a particularly fun, and curvy, road (for those in TX, it's Hwy 1431). It was a total blast on the 30 miles of curves, and I had absolutly no traffic in front of me until I got to within 5 miles of Marble Falls.

    I know I came nowhere near the limits of the cars cornering ability, but my pulse was racing and my adrenaline rushing.

    I've been doing good at keeping the RPMs below 4500, but 2nd gear gives me problems as the car just seems to want to leap immediately to 4500 when I shift from 1st. I have to watch that more.

    Aaron's parking rule #1, Don't park near grass. Went into a resturant for dessert and a beer, and when I came out, my car had been sprinkled on from the lawn sprinkler system. I had to drive back looking at water spots all over my car and windshield.

    Later, after the car had cooled off in my garage, I gave it it's first bath, after only a day. But the spots just bothered me. I used Zaino Car Shampoo and it did the trick.

    I now know what my arch-enemy is going to be...break dust! I couldn't believe how filthy my wheels were after only two days! How do you guys keep them clean (other than using Kleen Wheels)?
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    brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Where can you purchase a K40 radar detector - please let me know as much as you can: price, usability, how it compares to a V1, etc. It seems that the V1 is the best radar detector as far as capabilities but the reason I haven't used any for years is that you can't hide it easily. I would seriously consider a built-in one, though.

    Your car looks great. I guess the clears look much better (cleaner, neater) when they are closer to transparent like yours rather than whites. I suspect they would look better on a darker car, though - there's a lack of contrast with light colors.

    You are doing a CAI on a car that you intend to keep for 11-months?? Wondering if you recoup that expense at the end. I assume you'd have to take the CAI out and maybe sell it in the after-market?
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    gurumikegurumike Member Posts: 442
    Had one of the most exciting days of my life!

    Rented a small helicopter from San Luis Obispo in CA with friend who has rotorcraft rating. Flew at 90-110 mph through the canyons, around the sand dunes of Pismo Beach, up the coasts shore line at 2 pm this after noon. Beautiful beach day. Flew about 50 feet off the waves and so on. If you ever have the chance (for those who haven't!) I highly recommend it.

    daswolf - yup, it's produced not shipped, you'll have it in about a month.

    brave - I'll ask my guy about price on K40 (Advanced Audio in Santa Barbara) etc.

    I'm sure I'm going to kick myself, but what's CAI mean?
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    kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    CAI = Cold Air Intake
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    gurumikegurumike Member Posts: 442
    Yes indeed !! I love the Dinan 330 set up. Involves removing the front bumper, the air intake all the way down in the brake duct. But that's a little more extreme than I need to go. Paying a tech to come to work on Saturday morning to do that for me would just make it too expensive. Remember that it will be coming off when I do decide to get my next one. I'm really hoping to keep this one for all two years of the lease (but then I've said that on several previous ones). I'm waiting for ECIS to launch their brand new design 325/330 intakes; our cars have bigger throttle body inlets than the previous versions. From what I gather, these will be the hot ticket. This next week, I believe, should see their launch.

    I usually recoup 70-80% of what ever I buy the air pipe for (retail, new) on eBay. Check out my eBay rating, no prizes for guessing my user i.d.
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    dantlodantlo Member Posts: 106
    Waiting for 9 mths is nothing, sooner than you know your baby will be crawling and then walking then talking. And you look back and say where did all the time go?

    P.s My daughter likes to sit behind the wheel of our BMW's every time after she crawls out from her car seat.
    Dan
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    gurumikegurumike Member Posts: 442
    ... this site scores a "could do better" by my standards, but has some good information on the K40 radar. I have the "undetectable" with single front mounted antennae.

    http://www.k40.com
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    roc50mgroc50mg Member Posts: 102
    Anyone know of the most recent head to head comparison between radar detectors in auto magazines? I'm thinking about getting a Valentine 1. I've never had a radar detector before because over the past 3 years I've been getting lucky w/o one, but I'm thinking about getting one for extra measure of safety. How does the K40 compare w/V1? Does the K40 have the directional arrows that the V1 has? Anyone out there have experience with the V1? Is it worth $399?

    Also, anyone know how long the boat takes to get from Germany to Newark? And how long it stays at the VPC before being sent to the dealer?
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    trejos28trejos28 Member Posts: 93
    Congrats Braveheart and nice to have you back. Aaron..congrats to you too. And welcome nj330 to the board. T-minus 3-4 weeks until the wait is over, I hope.
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    div2div2 Member Posts: 2,580
    The V1 is the best unless you absolutely MUST have a built-in/concealed unit.
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    david325xidavid325xi Member Posts: 13
    I know the rain-sensing wipers are come with 330 if you order the PP. Do they also come with 325 PP?
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    david325xidavid325xi Member Posts: 13
    jnscheong & smarties139,
    Thanks for the info.

    brave1heart,
    congratulations! I am father of two girls, 2 years & 11 months old. I am sure you will spend more time later with your baby then BMW. I spend all my time with my babies when I am at home. Just do not slow down on this board. There is no speed limits here :^)
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    mfeldmanmfeldman Member Posts: 140
    Kids are great. A lot of work, but worth it. Saw the Lion King show with my 4 year old this weekend. She dances around the house to the entire soundtrack. The look on her face is priceless. She also knows I drive a bmw and that it is nicer than Mommy's car.

    One word of advice -- enjoy your lazy mornings now.
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    dantlodantlo Member Posts: 106
    My daughter who is 22mths old knows my wife and I drive BMW's, she calls it BW!! And everytime when I ask her what color is our cars, she says "black". Even though mine is steel gray, she still says "black".
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    denrightdenright Member Posts: 285
    My 330xi (steel gray/gray, PP, CWP, CD) left the port on a ship on July 4. My dealer tells me that I should expect to take delivery about July 21. The wait is killing me, but the end is in sight.

    Roc50mg, I wonder if our cars are on the same ship? Mine is on the MWA Maersk Wave.

    As far as financing goes, I just wanted to tell everyone on this board about the deal that I found. I am taking out a home equity line of credit from DeepGreenBank.com. I am closing on the loan tonight. The loan has an adjustable rate (which is the source of some concern) but the formula for determining the rate is Prime - .9% -- a pretty solid deal under the worst circumstances. Right now, the rate is 5.85%, there are no points or closing costs, and the interest is tax deductible! I think this is simply incredible!

    I encourage all homeowners looking at financing a car purchase to consider this option. It sure beats the heck out of the 7.5% rate my dealership tried to foist on me.
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    levylhlevylh Member Posts: 1
    After reading the very informative conversations on this message board which helped tremendously with my purchase of a 330xi, I thought it was time to add something from my own experience.

    I ordered a 330xi on June 16 with a "promise" of a first week July production date. Latest update as of 7/6/01 from my Conneticut BMW dealer is that BMW has cancelled all 2001 orders including mine with the All Wheel Drive feature. The earliest production date looks like October for a 2002 AWD model. The demand was apparently more than BMW could handle. I would suggest to those ordering the AWD to check with their dealer.

    Since I had a hint from my dealer several weeks ago that there was some difficulty in getting the AWD feature, I requested that he order a 330i immediately since I need a car soon. He did, and indicated today that I can expect delivery in August. That would be nice!

    One other thing, this is my first BMW and I am pretty excited about owning this car after reading all the great reviews from Edmonds and on this Board. I have bought many cars over the past three decades and this is only one that ever made me smile when I stepped on the accelerator. I knew I had to have one. Right now I'm driving a 1995 Volvo 850 with a 5 cylinder 168 HP engine. When I step on the gas it barely can get out of its own way; the Bimmer will be quite an awakening.
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    brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    You all make me feel very special before I've even become a father. The most important thing is that the mother is doing well, especially now that the first trimester is over. Thank you again!

    Radar detectors: Guru - I did some research on the K40 and it seems like the top of the cream. I called the manufacturer - they are quoting MSRP starting at $629 and going up to 1,700 depending on the type of installation. It may actually be a little cheaper b/c all the selling is done through local shops that can discount off that price. I have not used radar detectors for many years b/c I think the ones that a cop can see in your car can be more trouble than help and ultimately, it's best to rely on your senses. The V1 seems to stand out from the crowd - at least based on the last C&D comparo that I read a couple of years ago. The technology hasn't changed that much. However, the K40 seems to be VERY high-end and it wasn't part of the comparo. Judging by their web site, though, it would be by far the best radar detector you can get at any price, esp. b/c it's built in. They also sell laser defusers for $299 MSRP. Will research further.
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    shawn325ishawn325i Member Posts: 100
    I know what you mean, I have a 325i on order and I currently drive a 98 Volvo S70se, it too has the 168hp engine and though nice and safe, it is very boring.
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    denrightdenright Member Posts: 285
    Anyone know how you can track your ship's progress on the web? I remember some people talking about this a while back. Anyone know what the site is?
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    mdbimmermdbimmer Member Posts: 8
    My son and I returned two weeks ago from an absolutely fabulous trip to Spartanburg to pick up our new Orient Blue 330xi (perf. pkg, lux. pkg, cold weather pkg, nav.).

    The trip, like the car, was absolutely perfect. The personnel in Spartanburg was classy and knowledgeable, all on-site expenses were paid, the track session was nothing short of phenomenal (they allow you to take the session in a car similar to the one you bought, so M3 buyers drive an M3, 325ic's drive a convertible, etc.).

    Plus, ohmygosh, was this car ever clean and detailed. It was waiting in the Performance Center delivery showroom. Nothing was missing.

    And our drive home was absolutely fantastic, helped as we were by the new navigation system.

    I will never take delivery at the dealer's again. I heartily recommend this to all list members, even those from the West Coast.
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    roc50mgroc50mg Member Posts: 102
    My car is also on the WAVE. I spent some time today applying for a car loan and arranging for insurance for when my baby gets here.
    I'm trying to get 6.19 % financing for 48 months from my credit union.

    I hope to get the car on or before July 21, but it will probably be the following week. I also have to learn how to drive a manual. I hope I can get the car out of the dealers lot okay. I'm gonna try to bring someone that know how to drive stick, but if they're not available I'm gonna have to wing it. I've driven stick a couple of times before, but never made it up hill yet. Anybody got any advice on how to drive stick?
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    erricksonerrickson Member Posts: 130
    try: http://www.wlna.com/vescols.htm
    you can search by ship name as of a specific date...
    jnscheong is right. all you can really see is when the ship is scheduled to arrive in its various ports...
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    jnscheongjnscheong Member Posts: 66
    The site to check ship schedules is http://www.wlna.com


    You can't really check on the ship's progress however.


    jnscheong

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    ed_ph413ed_ph413 Member Posts: 17
    I called several places and they said that the short supply of 3 series is enabling them to fetch 2000+ over invoice in the Maryland area right now. There are few on the lot and spots to order are scarce.

    Those of you deciding on a 01 vs 02 model may not have a choice but to wait until the 2002 comes out in October. Any similar findings?
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    denrightdenright Member Posts: 285
    Wow, I KNEW we'd end up on the same boat.

    Seriously, look at deepgreenbank.com and see what you think of their home equity line of credit. I found it to be a fantastic deal, because even if prime rate goes up, I still get about 30% of my interest back in the form of tax benefits. So even if the HELOC rate goes up from 5.85% to 9% (a BIG if,as it would require the prime rate to approach 10%) my real post-tax rate would be about 6%! At 5.85%, my real rate is about 4%! That's barely above inflation!

    I am crossing my fingers for July 21!!!
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    burrsrburrsr Member Posts: 255
    Brave - a belated "welcome back" and congrats on the news!

    Time to head home soon. It's been a long, weird Monday -- had some comments for the board but can't think of them at the moment. They'll come back tomorrow...
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    silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    Hi Guru Mike,


    My family and I stopped by Cutter's last Monday, July 2nd and I think I saw you (not sure), but I definitely saw your nice white 3er parked in the front! (You may remember me...I was with my wife, mother-in-law, little "big" brother, and our white Westie terrier Tommy.) Anyway, both you and Jon looked busy so I didn't personally say Hi. I had the pleasure of talking to your colleague, Paul Ward. He was friendly and was kind enough to let me test drive the blue '01 325i manual that was on the lot. There were some nice windy roads we took around the block!


    But one thing that concerned me quite a bit is when I asked Paul about the 2001/2002 E46 body style differences, he very emphatically said that there are NO facelifts nor ANY body changes to the new 2002 model! The only thing that's changing, he said, is that in-dash CD will be standard instead of cassette. Now I've been reading over and over again on this board that there will be some facelift changes for 2002 (e.g. http://www.bmwnation.com/home.html)....so what's the deal??? Paul even said that the dealers haven't received any official notices on these changes and if there were, this would change BMW's original plan on keeping the E46 style for 7 years! Have all the posters here been misinformed or is it that Paul doesn't have his facts straight? I think it's the latter, otherwise all of us would've seen this matter addressed here a long time ago. Paul also said that it's too late to order a 2001 model today and that I would have to be on the 2002 waiting list. True???


    P.S. By the way, for those of you who live in the California Bay Area/Northern California, I just found a GREAT strip of road to drive your BMW and have a great time enjoying the California coast: The southbound lane of Highway 128 from Mendocino all the way to the Hwy 101 junction, that's some 20-30 miles I think, has newly paved asphalt! Although we were driving our Lexus LS400 with 4 passengers (which is a big boat compared to the 3er), even this car was "sticking" to the road! When I get my 325i next year, I can't wait to take another trip up there just to drive that road!

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    jnscheongjnscheong Member Posts: 66
    Called my dealer today and was told that my car (330i, Steel Grey, black leatherette, sports package, xenon, and CD) is at Port Hueneme (California) today. Although my dealer wouldn't commit, but I am expecting delivery this weekend the latest. I have been pretty calm once I found out the car was on the boat. The anxiety returns now that I know the car is here! :-)

    jnscheong
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    trejos28trejos28 Member Posts: 93
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    e30ragtope30ragtop Member Posts: 2
    Hi all -- Absent any responses to my first message, I thought I'd try again.

    I've started thinking about retiring my 1992 e30 convertible to Weekend Car status and buying a new 3er (325 ix Touring, perhaps). In reading your posts, it seems like everybody's waiting a few months for their car to be delivered. Has anybody considered European delivery? Does it take much longer? It seems like it should be worth $400 or so in air fare to save 10% and get exactly the car you want. (Even if you don't combine it with a vacation and just fly over for the weekend, it seems to make good economic sense.) Where are the flaws in my logic? Euro delivery sounds like a great way to go. Is it?
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    silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    Congrats! Would you mind telling me which dealership you went to and name of salesman? Your thoughts on them and if there are any other dealerships you recommend in the SoCal LA/Orange county areas? Also, how much did you pay for your baby? The options you chose are exactly what I'm looking for too!

    Thanks!
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    jasonkureejiijasonkureejii Member Posts: 210
    Did you say yours is still awaiting a ship? If so, from what port?
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    kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    This topic has been covered a few times already. If no one responds, grab a cup of coffee and start back at the beginning. I'm sure somewhere along the way will be the info you seek... good luck!
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    jnscheongjnscheong Member Posts: 66
    Crevier at Santa Ana is my dealer and I have been dealing with their fleet manager Jerry Cohan. I haven't met him in person yet (used the fax method to purchase my car), but so far so good. The fax method is outlined by Motley Fool at http://www.fool.com/car/step12car.htm


    The deal I got is $35175, before tax and license, for the car equipped as I mentioned plus floor mat and BMW alarm.


    Both Crevier and Sterling at Newport Beach gave me similar, but higher bids initially. Cunningham at El Cajon (San Diego County) gave me this $35175 bid. Crevier matched this bid so I went with them to save on an 80+ miles drive.


    jnscheong

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    kekskeks Member Posts: 6
    We just bought a 325xi sports wagon with in- dash CD, automatic for 32k above $2000 over invoice. were waiting for delivery anytime soon. did we get a good deal or what?
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    eugeug Member Posts: 46
    Congrats! Your post is making me edgy. I think I'm about a week behind you at Crevier. That was a great price, let me know how the pick-up goes.
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    jnscheongjnscheong Member Posts: 66
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    shap1shap1 Member Posts: 77
    Unboringuy,
    Sorry to hear about the accident. I have a lot of family in Cincinnati -- know the bridge very well. Sounds like a Miami (FL) driver hit you!

    Brave,
    Congrats on the pregnancy! Don't worry about a bigger car, even after the second kid. I've got two car seats in the backseat of my 325i and I can still fit back there, too.
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    silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    Although I live in the Bay area, I'm willing to make the 400 mile drive for a better deal, unless anyone can advise on a good dealership in the Bay area? So far, Cutters Motors is pretty reasonable. GuruMike, where are you? Please answer my inquiries in my previous post.
    Thanks!
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    330va330va Member Posts: 3
    First, some history. Ordered my beauty April 27th from Richmond BMW. 330i, Steel Blue, PP, CD, heated seats, 5 SPEED! Picked her up on June 2nd (I thought the wait was killer but I guess I have no room to complain with just a 5 week wait). Delivery was relatively painless and I was on my way to enjoy the ultimate driving machine. I had initially had the typical "buyers remorse" thing about spending so much for a car. All remorse was history about one mile down the road, never heard from again. Definitely worth every penny. And the attention, not only the double takes on the road but I have already been stopped several times in parking lots to answer questions or just talk about the car. It seems like perfect strangers love this car as much as I do. If only they knew.
    Only one problem though. I have just passed approx 1800 miles of fun and noticed a slight change in performance. It seems not to have the same pep as it did just 2 days ago. Not bad, no obvious misses at idle or at speed, in fact hardly noticeable, but I can tell. This wasn't a new tank of gas or right after any change of anything. I filled up again anyway (with premium of course) but no change. The quick response that I felt as soon as the accelerator was touched now seems uninspired. Up 'til now, this car coaxed me to drive fast. Now it feels like "it" needs to be coaxed. I have contacted the dealer who said to bring it by for a test drive with a maintenance tech. I have a feeling that he will say that it seems normal to him. Does anyone have a clue? Help, I miss my baby!

    Thanks,

    Chip
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