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If your total drive-off is pretty low, seems like a very good deal.
I've been lurking for several months and I have almost convinced myself to go with a 325i. Of course, convincing my wife may be a different story!
I was looking at the BMWUSA web site and read some info about the program where you can pick up the car at the performance center in Spartansburg, SC. Does anyone have any additional info about this program? I didn't see if there was any cost associated with the program, but with the perks they talked about, it's hard to believe that it's free. Just wondering...
Thanks for being a great source of info. I plan to go to the dealer for a test drive this w/e. Any suggestions on dealing with the salesman? I'm a bit nervous, and this will be my first new vehicle purchase. I plan to be straightforward and tell the guy that I know what I want, and that I will be negotiating from invoice price. It sounds as if the best deal is about $1500 over invoice - I think that's what I'll be shooting for. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again,
Lewis Parker
Emily
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In the case of E36, 17" wheels seems to be the sweet spot, and that is a Plus 2 sizing, up from the base 15" wheel. I know the E46 is a different animal, but 19" wheels are awfully aggressive, it may also require some suspension modifications too. Not sure, just a heads up, good luck.
You simply have to tell your dealer that you want this option; there is no charge for it. You are responsible only for getting yourself to the Spartanburg plant. Many dealers are unaware of SC delivery; if that's the case with your dealer, have them contact BMWNA for the scoop.
I spoke with a rep. at the performance center, and he said it usually works like this:
- Fly in to Greenville airport the day before delivery
- BMW picks you up in a 5-series wagon and takes you to the local Marriot
- Room and dinner for two is comp'd by BMW
- Breakfast is comp'd by BMW
- BMW picks you up in the morning and takes you to the plant for a factory tour (Z3 and X5 manufacturing)
- After the tour, you take delivery of your vehicle
- Lunch (again comp'd by BMW)
- Afternoon driving instruction (approximately 2 hours from 1pm-3pm)
- Leave in your new car
It's a great option and we were very close to choosing it when at the last minute we thought, "Hey, if we're going to do a rmeote delivery, might as well do the real thing - Munich!!"
Anyway, good luck!
Sometime in the next week or two, the name of this discussion will be changed dropping the "Part 5" designation.
Now that we have moved to our new platform, we no longer have a requirement to stop and restart discussions after a certain number of posts have occurred. Therefore, this discussion can be regarded as the permanent home for 3-Series conversation. The "part number" designations on all of our discussions will probably eventually confuse new members, so we will be gradually dropping them from the titles.
We'll also be altering original discussions in the Archives to differentiate between the first and the current.
I just wanted to give you a heads up - and by the way, if you are subscribed to this discussion, a name change will not affect your subscription.
Thanks.
Pat
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Anyone know if I will still get the 5.9% APR if I place my European Delivery order before April 30th (although pickup will be well past that date)?
Thanks.
if you're thinking 325 v. 330 and lease, great lease deals on 330s right now (.0022 money factor) actually works out $5-10/month cheaper than a 325.
1) How late in the ordering process can one choose SC (Performance Center) delivery? Will the factory give a fixed date for the pickup, to allow travel plans to be made?
2) Is the airfare comped by BMW? If not, is there an inexpensive way to get one-way airfare?
3) Does anyone have experience taking the train to Greenville? Will BMW pick you up at the train station?
Our new 330xi is scheduled for week 19 (early May) production. We haven't selected SC delivery yet, but are leaning that way.
325xi $28,740
Steel Gray metallic $475
Leather (black) $1450
Wood $500
Moonroof $1050
Xenon headlights $500
Destination $645
Total: $33,360
I'm assuming cruise control and fog lights are now standard, so I haven't included the $475 and $260 for them (please correct me if I'm wrong). This was the total price I got from the bmwusa.com site after "building" my 325xi.
Has anyone here purchased a Bimmer in Connecticut, and if so, could you recommend an agreeable dealership? Any idea of how much below MSRP I should try to bring the dealer down to? I was thinking that $1500 under MSRP would be acceptable.
Also:
1. Is it worth it to buy the premium package for $2700?
2. Does MACO apply in CT?
3. Does the 325xi come with steering wheel-mounted audio controls standard?
4. Any other tips or hints regarding how to optimize the sale or what tricks the dealers like to pull (if any)?
Thanks...
- Mike
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2. It falls apart completely and can only be re-assembled as a Pontiac Aztek.
3. The popular S.A.-only Flame-thrower option goes off on its own when it detects bad drivers nearby. The option is set to max for Lexus IS300 drivers and acts uncontrollably in their presence.
Happy Festivus, all. U2 says "it's a beautiful day..." and I say it's been another great Master's so far! I played my first 18 holes for the season this morning and I feel reborn.
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One advantage I see to this program, other than the sheer coolness of the factory tour and driving school, is that your ability to work with dealers outside of your local area is significantly enhanced. In other words, you can buy the car from just about any dealer in the country that will give you the best deal, as long as you are willing to go get the car in SC. Just a thought.
I saw the dealer at Tischer in Silver Spring, MD today. He seemed pretty cool, but a bit nonchalant. I guess that's better than being pressured, but I also got the feeling that he could take or leave my business.
Cheers,
Lewis Parker
Rbuka
good going, enjoy the car
Mccerio,
try going $1500 over invoice, thats what I got my car for. But then again, i'm in so cali. But hey, the market is slowing down.........
good luck
Have been researching and reading this very informative post for the past month!!
This is the deal I am being offered in NJ; please comment if it sounds good or not:
2001 325xi
Steptronic Transmission
Premium package
Cold weather package
Xenon headlamps
Leather Seating
Total: 33005 (invoice) + $1500 dealer profit + $530 Dealer prep(cleaning, detailing, mats, wheel locks, key programming etc.) + $ 200 ad fee
Total Price: 35235 +TT&L
Is this ok?
Please Let Me Know Guys!!
Thanks in advance.
Veekay1
Veekay1
http://forums.roadfly.com/bmw/wheels/
Anyway, those are some sharp wheels, and sticky rubber you have on order from Tirerack. Its all a matter of attitude, sometimes with the super fat tires, there is a clearance issue and it requires 'rolling' the wheel wells. I think thats the term? BTW, you were right about Pitcairn, it is populated by descendants up the HMS Bounty mutineers with a few of their Polynesian traitor cohorts. They make a living selling stamps and homemade island trinkets. The population is under 50 now, what a life.
black sapphire is a metallic flake black so like the jet black but with a shine to it. should be very similar to the 5-series, 7-series cosmos black. gorgeous color but hard to keep clean!
veekay - i almost bought the same car as you but keep in mind great lease deals on 330s until april 30th if you're leasing.
good luck!
if anyone who has it has any thoughts, either way, greatly appreciated! thanks.
FWIW, I think that you made the right decision. I also placed an order this weekend - for a 330i - & I had no misgivings about not ordering nav. IMO, the Japanese are better at this stuff than the Germans are. If I had really wanted nav, I would've picked a Lexus over a BMW. This is still new technology. I can't shake the feeling that adding gee-whiz electronics to a complex German car at this stage of the game is asking for trouble down the road. In 5 or 6 years, when my wife's car comes up for replacement, we'll probably spring for nav. The technology will be more sorted out at that point & my wife is a Lexus fan anyway.
My 2nd thoughts have to do with my color pick. I ordered steel grey w/tanin red leather, & I did this without seeing a car in these colors. In fact, my dealer didn't have a single car, new or used in any model, with red leather - probably because red doesn't sell well. So after I signed on the dotted line, I drove 20 miles to another BMW store, where I found a silver / tanin 325i on the showroom floor. I spent some time sitting in that car & decided that (1) it's a lot of red in a small space & (2) nonetheless, I liked the effect. I'm not worried about resale because I keep my cars for a long time, & mileage & condition matter more than color choices for cars more than 5 or 6 years old. I just want someone to tell me that I'm not nuts.
Thanks for listening, guys.
You made the right choice. I'd forget the navigation...at least for now. It'ss take a couple of years before technology catches up to the concept of how it should actually work.
Jimbres-
I think you should go with the grey leather as opposed to the red. I can assure you that in time, the novelty will wear off and you'll be unhappy with the red. The grey has a much nicer look to it, especially with the steel grey.
So if I wanted to use more than HWY-level details to drive 30 minutes North instead of 30 minutes South, I'd have to pay $100 for an extra CD and get in the trunk to change it! Too much hassle, and talk about old technology...
I do want a Nav System (not a lame one though), but don't want a Lexus or Acura for my next vehicle. I understand the new 7-series this Fall *may* have an upgraded Nav System (DVD? I hope), which would then become available as an option to the other models. I may let my downpayment grow awhile and order in the Fall after this does/doesn't come true.
We just spent the weekend exploring unfamiliar turf with the Lexus Nav System. It performed pretty well...got us everywhere we wanted with no particular hassles or complaints. It CAN work well now. I just hope BMW swaps from 7 disks to 1 ASAP!
Cindy
4murphy "Mercedes-Benz C-Class (Part 6)" Apr 7, 2001 9:25pm
at59well "Mercedes-Benz C-Class (Part 6)" Apr 8, 2001 9:03am
Could you share with me your dealer/salesperson name?
All:
Could anybody recommend on dealers/salespersons in Southern California?
Thanks.
is there anyone else out there who doesn't like wood trim? why does bmw force you to take the wood trim with the 330 premium pkg (which makes price sense and has some good features -auto-dim mirror, rain-sensing wipers, lumbar support, etc. and that are basically free w/the pkg if you're going with leather and sunroof anyway). i tried to get a 330 prem. and delete the wood but no love.
deal was, as stated, 3.69% over invoice = $1400 even
when deal started, lease was to be $799 mth/ $1815 at inception
36 mths @ 30k per year (as of Jan )
when car ordered in Feb, deal went down due to March production "deals" on stand. equip and pkgs...$779 mth
when delv'd, now got April lease deal = $759 mth/ $1775 down.
60 days exactly from odrer to car at dealership.
330xi
paint
prem/cwp/awd sport pkgs
cd
xenon
$39,365
Sussman BMW, Northfield NJ..609-641-1900
38 mi south of me in Ocean county...not much more from Freehold
( easier to buy in-state...taxes, reg,inspection...)
mike canahan x109
pricing through on-line "autovantage" deal
this was simple, to the point, efficient, and, profitable (for me)
good luck
enjoy....
drew
Gene