BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Are you talking about the steering situation for the older 2001's or are you talking about replacing the steering wheel itself with something like the M or Sport Steering wheel?

    I personally have the SP with the sport steering wheel. I like the look but I wish it was a bit thicker, like the M steering wheel.
  • derprofiderprofi Member Posts: 250
    I agree re: the sport wheel. When I was told "M wheel" at order time I was expecting the padded one with the nice, grippy bumps at 10 and 2 o'clock.
  • kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    I know this swap has been discussed around here already, but I'm not sure if anyone has done it yet. I called my service advisor a couple weeks ago about it. He told me to bring my car in so they could see exactly which wheel it has and then they'll order a compatable M wheel. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get my car in yet. If anyone has had it done, I'd be interested in hearing how it went and what the $$ was.
  • canadian_galcanadian_gal Member Posts: 7
    Does anyone know the legal percentage of tint allowed on windows in Canada? I will be picking up my 2002 steel blue 330i in June and am considering tinting but don't want my car to look "suspicious" just slightly "mysterious" - actually just want to keep the sun damage to a minimum.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Careful with that Canadian sun - you could get toasted on any of the 3 days that you actually see it every year :o)
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    Your local tinting company should know what percentage it is. In the US, you can tint it darker than legal, but companies make you sign a waver.
  • luftig1luftig1 Member Posts: 23
    tinted also, but my concern is :
    1) Tints tend to scratch
    2) Tints sometimes buble around rear window heating
    3) Tint installers may drag their razor blade across the heating element, leaving portions non functional (happened on my old Bronco)
    4) These guys will stand on my leather seats
    Also, I do not like the look very much.
    If your reading this, please advise of your experience with window tinting.
  • njdriver1njdriver1 Member Posts: 97
    You got it. At 4:30pm I got the call from service and its the valve part (whatever the heck that is). Unfortunately, they need to order the part and I can't have the car for at least 2 more days. Drag. But good call, PAP5. And thanks.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    lol... I hope the factory guys that assembled my exquisite BMW were wearing a premium brand clean white shoes and that they had washed their hands after their last bathroom break.
  • sybelesybele Member Posts: 42
    I was talking about the steering feel. Thanks for the feedback. It is my understanding that you have to call a certain BMW department to get it approved. Is this correct?
  • kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    The way I went about getting mine done was through the Owners Circle on bmwusa.com. I signed up and sent a "Priority E-Mail". Customer service (or whatever they called themselves) contacted me in a few days. Good luck.
  • riezriez Member Posts: 2,361
    Happened to run across an article in the April 16th issue of The Economist, p. 61 ("Leave it to the locals: Cars in China"). On the Chinese auto industry. This sentence caught my eye: "BMW is in discussions to make, as well as import, its 3-series in China."

    Due to WTO agreement, current 80 percent import tariffs fell to only 50 percent on 1/1/02 and decline to 25 percent by 2006. Due to unskilled labour force, terrible supply chains, poor distribution systems, and pirated replacement parts, building cars for profit is very hard in China. But by 2010 their industry expects to have a 4-6 million car market.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    That's interesting. I remember reading a few years back that MB was trying hard to break into the Chinese car market with a Smart-like vehicle built in China. That market will probably be the fastest-growing in the world and any manufacturer that establishes a strong footing now will reap huge benefits in the future. Also, it is amazing when you put it all into perspective: 1.2 bill people in China will be buying 4-5 mil cars a year and that's in 8 years. Here, 290 mil of us buy 17+ mil cars a year now!!
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    I got my retrofit done by calling BMWNA. You'll need your VIN.
  • silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    I read on one of the boards that you can't retrofit an M-steering wheel on a 1999 or early 2000 E46. Is this true? BTW, I have a 99 323i SP (with the 3-spoke steering wheel).
  • chewie5chewie5 Member Posts: 61
    I haven't purchased one myself, but here's some info about the M sport steering wheel:


    The part number for the one with black stitching is 32 34 2 229 230. The list price is $359.


    The part number for the one with the red and blue stitching is 32 34 2 229 500. The list price is $485.


    I've heard that people have gotten discounts ordering them through Circle BMW or Cutter Motors. As far as I understand, those prices are for the steering wheel only--the airbag is extra unless you have the steering wheel from the SP.


    Silverprincess--that may be why you "can't" retrofit on the early E46's, because the steering wheel that came with the sport pkg was different than the 2001-2002, and hence would have a different airbag. But I don't see why you wouldn't be able to buy a new wheel and airbag. Anyone know for sure?


    Oh, and here's a link to a DIY install:

    http://www.bmw330ci.com/DIY_M3_Wheel.htm


    Hope this helps!

  • bing330ibing330i Member Posts: 89
    I went back to home Beijing in March and my folks in Minitry of Foreign Trade (who approves joint venture and foreign investment) told me it's a sure thing BMW will manufacture in China and that was the main objective of BMW CEO Milberg's last Oct visit to China. I was told they will begin the venture in 2005. Anyhow, import cars are at least 1 time higher there than in US due to import tax. My friend bought a 318i 2 years ago for around $100,000. Right now it is about $50,000. VW is dominant in China as they had the first auto joint venture there. All new design Audi A6 and VW Passat and older look Jetta are all over.
  • pap5pap5 Member Posts: 144
    Yup, took a couple of days to get the part and install it. They made the diagnosis the same day I brought the car in. I'm surprised your dealer took so long.
  • jegusajegusa Member Posts: 1
    My sunroof stopped working! It was fine this morning and then tonight, the interior flap slid back half-way and then would stop. I can slide it back to closed position and it slides back 1/2 way when the switch is pushed, but that's it. Any clue as to what is wrong with it?
  • canadian_galcanadian_gal Member Posts: 7
    3 days of sun! I wish! lol
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,540
    WOW! Lots of posts from Friday until today! So Cal was great! I can't believe the amount of 3 series out there!

    So speaking of idiots, my uncle just moved from a suburb of Cleveland, OH to Anaheim Hills, CA. He always likes to show off and I got wind from my mother that he bought a BMW Convertible when he moved out there last month. I got to his Apartment and said hello to my uncle, aunt, & cousin. I sat down to have a cold drink (2 minutes after I arrived) and he says: "Hey, come check out my Beemer!" We went down to the garage and there is a 325 Convertible there. A 1991 E30 325iC. It was White with a blue top and blue leather (5 Speed) and has 112,000 miles. It had the "BMW factory 6 spoke wheels" that are advertised in the back of Car & Driver all the time. He bought ($7500) it without having it checked out or doing a carfax. I drove it and told him it was nice. I told him he should have the airbag sensor checked out and that I heard a sqeak coming from the right rear suspension. I wished him good luck with it! He's the type of guy that says he's got a "beemer" and it makes my skin crawl!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    Welcome back. BTW, it's bimmer. beemer is a bike.

    I found out 3rd gear tops out at 90 last night. Interesting experience. Nice steady pull thoughout RPM range. Every owner should try it out at least once. ;)
  • tenet1tenet1 Member Posts: 354
    Tried it. Went to about 84 and chickened out. Engine sounds great.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,540
    I always get the 2 confused, but you all knew what I meant!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Did you get a chance to play on the PCH with any fun toys?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,540
    I got to drive the various Toll Roads (and did some off roading) in my friend's 2001 Range Rover 4.6 HSE. No PCH though:(

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I practice that every day - what would driving a 3-series be without redlining it regularly :o) I am too focused on the RPM's as I approach redline but I think my 325 will top out in the low '80's in third. Will let you know tomorrow ;o) "Nice steady pull throughout RPM range" describes it very well - I've noticed that a slew of cars that try to keep up with my 325i can do it briefly but the 325i keeps going and going and going....You get a really wide band to play with so at least with my 325 engine, it's not a sudden push that makes it accelerate fast - it is the continuously excellent and steady acceleration that gives me an edge. And having the type of transmission that allows you to shift smoothly in 1/4 second helps a lot too ;o)

    p.s. I really wish you lived on the East Coast so we could get together and "pass a lot car together" :o)
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    If we ever lived close to each other, we'd have to replace our tires every 10k. ;)
  • vkwheelsvkwheels Member Posts: 218
    PCH is beautiful around so. Cal. but you have to go quite a ways up (north) before you get to the breathtaking curves of the central coast portion. I have a picture of the Allegheny forest as screensaver, that area must have lots of scenic roads too.
  • tomtomtomtomtomtom Member Posts: 491
    Does anyone ever take their E46 to get a new paint job? I am thinking about one of those Exclusive Line colors from Standox, anyone knows how much it would cost?
  • innkeeper40innkeeper40 Member Posts: 5
    I know the owners manual says keep the RPM's below 4,500 (or was it 4K and 100 MPH during the first 1,200 miles. My BMW ED point of contact, in Munich, only mentioned the RPM limitation. During the 725 miles I put on the car while I was in Europe I hit 105-110 MPH several times but never exceeded 4,000 RPM. Did I do any damage?
  • jluftigjluftig Member Posts: 20
    a color nobody else does. Of course, after market paint jobs will never be as good as the factory paint and it may harm resale if you care about that. Another issue is that they basically will take your car body apart and reassemble it, that is just asking for rattels. So my decision is to wait until the paint gets chipped and faded (I am not good about waxing other than what the hands free at my gas station applies) and then I will make her look like new - yet different.
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    My wife and I just got back from picking up my ED 530i (5-Speed, Xenon, PP, SP, Premium Audio, Black Sapphire, Black Leather) a couple of hours ago. If you are a performance-driving fan, ED is a MUST DO at some point in your life.

    I am working on a full write up of the trip (complete with pictures), however here is the “Cliff’s Notes” version:

    17-Apr-2002: We landed in Munich a little after 10:00 AM and made it to the ED Center just before noon, traveling via the Munich light rail system (15 Euros covers up to 5 people for 24 hours). After a quick lunch and Vehicle orientation, we were rolling by 2:00 PM, and after a few false starts, managed to find the road we were looking for heading Southwest out of Munich. We booked a room in a fabulous hotel in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, ate in a Bavarian Sytle Gasthaus (sp?), and crashed (we slept 13 hours).

    After just a few miles, I can tell you that, while I have always really liked my 1999 328i, it just cannot compare to my new 530i, what a car!

    18-Apr-2002: We headed into Austria, heading generally west, hitting Switzerland by late after noon (the Swiss border guards did not like the looks of my tourist plates, so, it took about 15 minutes for them to make sure everything was in order). We then blasted across Switzerland ranging between 60 and 100 MPH the whole way, stopping in Basel for a fabulous dinner, and then pushing on through Mulhouse, France into Belfort, France, where we spent the night in yet another very elegant hotel.

    19-Apr-2002: Given that we had Hotel reservations and dinner plans in Paris, we had to push a little, so, we drove as straight a line as possible to Paris, which included about 50% 2-lane roads and 50% MotorWay (France has a speed limit of about 80 MPH), and we averaged well over 70 MPH for the entire day (at least until we got to the outskirts of Paris). On the way, we stopped for lunch in the ancient walled city of Langres, where the Medieval roads made driving the 530i feel like I was driving a Semi with a 53’ trailer!

    On to Paris, however, our timing was bad, REAL BAD, we hit the Periferique at about 4:15 PM coming in from the Southeast, and needing to be around on the Northwest side. We finally managed to get to Avenue Foch at about 5:10 and as we had to get to Boulevard Haussmann, we HAD to drive around the Arc De Triomphe at about 5:15, sheer suicide, however, I made it through on the first try without a scratch (I let a tour bus set a BIG pick for me ;-)). We found the Hotel and a SECURE place to park, and had three wonderful days “Doing Paris”.

    22-Apr-2002: We headed east out of Paris at about 1:00 PM, running between 65 and 100 MPH most of the way. My wife even took a crack at it during a stretch that had fairly light traffic. She said, “Gee, at 100, I feel like I am doing 55 at home, this car is REAL SMOOTH!”

    As I am a former Marine, I just HAD to stop at the “Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial”, which is located in the Bellau Wood area (near Chateau-Thierry) where nearly 8,000 U.S. Marines died in June of 1918 in a running battle with the Germans to re-take control of the area. I cannot tell you how many times I had to blink back tears just to be able to take some good pictures, what a moving place. This place is so undisturbed, that there is still plenty of evidence of the original trenches, foxholes and shell craters all over the area.

    Back on the road, we had lunch in Chateau-Thierry, and then we retraced some of the route that I rode on my Bicycle back in July of 1982 through Verdun, Etain, Spincourt, Longuyon, Longwy and on into Luxembourg, where we spent the night in a very cute little hotel.

    23-Apr-2002: We did some sight seeing in Luxembourg until noonish (is that a word?), and then stopped at a fairly good Curry house (the Curry content in my blood was getting a little low ;-)). Early afternoon, we hit the road again with the intent of making it all of the way back to Munich by the evening, which, if you stay on the Autobahn the entire way (we did) is something close to 440 miles. As it turns out, we made it to Munich by 7:00 PM, including numerous stops, heavy traffic and construction.

    About 220 miles into the trip, I crossed the 1,200 mile barrier, and needless to say, I just had to open her up. On my speedometer, the “Top-Speed” limiter kicks in at exactly 132.5 MPH, and up to that point, the car was still accelerating very strongly. During the drive, there were literally dozens of times that I accelerated from 60ish to 120ish, given that I was still reluctant to downshift and “Redline” the motor, I would just do it in 5th gear, even still, the power this car has (especially in the 80 to 100 range) is impressive.

    In Munich, we attempted to check into the Hotel Uhland, however, because I was unsure which day we would actually arrive in Munich, I did not make a reservation, preferring to trust to my luck instead. My luck held, sort of. The Uhland had just booked its last room an hour before we got there, however, the manager was able to find me a room a few blocks away in the Hotel St. Paul (not quite as nice and about 20 Euros per night more).

    24-Apr-2002: We drove the car up to E.H. Harms (the drop off procedure is fairly painless), and took a taxi back into town where we spent the rest of the day shopping and sight seeing. We then arranged for a 5:00 AM wake up call, and a 5:30 taxi pickup, paid for our room, packed and bedded down for the night.

    25-Apr-2002: Wake up call, taxi ride, flight to Copenhagen, flight to Newark and Limo ride home all were uneventful.

    Now the waiting begins, my 328i gets dropped off next Tuesday, and I am suspecting that my 530i will be here mid to late May, I am like a kid waiting for Christmas, all over again. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo

    P.S.

    I will now attempt to skim the 250 messages that I am behind. ;-)
  • leenelsonmdleenelsonmd Member Posts: 208
    Loved the narrative. I felt like I was there. It allows me to fantasize about my new car.

    Sounds like the 530 is a great machine too.

    I am thinking about ED. We have a 10mo old in the house and so I go back an forth on the thoughts of taking her to Europe.

    I am waiting to buy a '03 330, but I think I will try to talk my wife into an '04 5 wagon. She thinks she wants an SUV or something like that. (At least she doesn't want a truck, everyone else in Texas seems to drive one). I think she might be converted to the 5 wagon though. I would love that. I could drive my 330 and would still have some fun on the family outings.

    Shipo - buying a bimmer is a lot of fun.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I am glad to hear that you're back and that you had a great time in Europe. Your "Cliff's Notes" are dynamic and more enjoyable to read than most automotive journalists' writing. How does the 530's engine sound compared to that of the 328? fwiw, I am not sure if you've been to the Schlumpf Automotove Museum (Musée National de l'Automobile
    Schlumpf Collection) in Mulhouse in the past but it would have been a great place to visit on your way through Alsace - they house the largest collection of Bugattis in the world as well as many other exciting cars.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    84 mph is correct - my 325 was at 84 mph at 6,000 RPM's in third gear.
  • vkwheelsvkwheels Member Posts: 218
    Boy-o-boy, you decided me on 2 things!
    a) ED is a must-do sometime in my life
    b) a car control course is mandatory prior to ED
    Congratulations on the new car!
  • jluftigjluftig Member Posts: 20
    Paris traffic is awful, the Arc De Triomphe in a new 530 - quite scarry ! Thanks for the good read.
  • seivwrigseivwrig Member Posts: 388
    Welcome back!!!

    Arc d'Triomphe, you are better man than me. I saw, I came, I got wimpy. I would never drive in Paris again. I can tolerate driving in London but Paris is maniacal. At least your wait will not be as long as mine. Mine car was released to the carrier yesterday. Great write up!!!
  • sunnybrooksunnybrook Member Posts: 74
    Does anyone know what dropoff point usually provides the quickest turnaround time to the car arrving at an eastcoast dealership? It seems most people dropoff in munich, but would it be quicker if you dropped off in frankfurt or london?
  • warrior6521warrior6521 Member Posts: 5
    I'm considering an 03 325i or 330i. Since I've never owned a BMW before (mostly American - 1 MB 190E), I'm just curious about maintenance costs, gas mileage and if BMW dealers will "deal" or if MSRP is it.

    Thanks in advance for any info!

    I'm in Maryland and the nearest dealer is over an hour away near DC.
  • seivwrigseivwrig Member Posts: 388
    I think the fastest drop offs are Bremerhaven and Antwerp. London is not very quick. My car had to go to Antwerp then shipped out of Zeebrugge. Bremerhaven, I think is near Hamburg, so the trip to Northern Germany is not short. With the Antwerp drop off, your car is loaded after the Bremerhaven cars. This translate to your car getting of the boat faster than the Bremerhaven cars. I don't know if your car gets processed faster. My car, for instance, should have gone to Charleston and not Port Jersey. this deleayed my car significantly. I will probably see my car tomorrow (today would be dreaming) and pick up by Monday,hopefully.
  • tenet1tenet1 Member Posts: 354
    Expect to pay anywhere from $1500 - 2000 over invoice in this area, since there are several dealers here.

    Maintanence is free for 3 yrs
    My gas mileage is about 21 mpg with both city and hwy driving combined. 30+ on the highway.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,540
    Welcome Back! THE CLIFFS nates were fabulous. I can't wait to see all the pics and the unabridged version of your story.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • postoakpostoak Member Posts: 537
    Glad to see you back! Interesting short version of your trip. Paris driving in a new 5-series -- now that's scary. What did I miss, why is your 328i being "dropped off next Tuesday"?
  • denkdenk Member Posts: 75
    I would put Athens right up there with Paris but you are indeed a brave soul to drive a new car in Paris.
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    Thanks for the kind words regarding the short version of my trip. I have been going through the pictures and re-naming them from the default name that the digital camera gives them, to something that makes a little sense. That said, I have 253 pictures (all 1280 x 960 high resolution JPGs), and I have already forgotten some of the names of the buildings, bridges, parks and monuments. As such, I will have to consult to a few experts this weekend to get all of the names correct.

    Postoak,

    The lease is up on my 328i next Tuesday, so, I will be dropping it off at a dealership, and say goodbye. :-(

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,540
    So you and the wife are going to be down to just "The green monster?" Since I'm picking up my Prelude tomorrow, maybe I could lend you my Saab until your 5er comes stateside;)

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • vishnu11vishnu11 Member Posts: 59
    Ship leaves from Bremerhaven and then loads cars from Zeebrugge (Antwerp). In general, the lifo rule works - last in first out i.e you are better off getting your car onto the boat as late as possible.

    However, if there is a backup at the port of entry, then the cars are stacked at the VPC - apparently mostly in lifo manner. Implies that your car first off the boat may be the last in to the VPC! Yikes.

    But wait! There's more to it - if there are many ships coming in all at once, they might be unloaded depending on other voyage priorities. For instance, in my case, a batch of 5000+ Minis got bumped up the ladder (naturally).

    Add to that in the VPC, I am told that different models go through different inspection lines (makes sense,right?) and therefore slightly different times of exit from the VPC. The VPC apparently can handle about 3000 vehicles a day, so that's good news.

    And finally, recall/damage work will delay how your car exits from the VPC. And of course, the trucker also determines how long it takes from the VPC to your dealer - he/she could be making several drop-offs at dealers along the route.
  • cnorthrupcnorthrup Member Posts: 74
    Nice write up of your trip.
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