BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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  • alpine325ialpine325i Member Posts: 209
    (dave letterman) NO! YOU DA MAN! Braveheart is the man, I had to step out for lunch, but I try to be the man :o)
  • alpine325ialpine325i Member Posts: 209
    If you opt for the wheel locks, buy the NON key type, the key type cost $50 and they are not reccommended by BMW dealers, because the mechanism inside breaks and causes alot of problems. The non key type are $25 and are way better. :o)
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Oh, no - Alp taught me about the wheels a couple of months ago - I'm glad I was taking good notes.
    Yep, the non-key wheel locks are a must for these wheels. I think the wheels retail for $400 each and the tires are $150 wholesale/$250 retail, so you are looking at 2-2.5 grand just for the wheels and tires. I'd be very happy to see an unattended 325i SP w/o wheel locks if I were a thief.

    I also like the tilt sensor on the BMW alarm - makes stealing AND towing a lot more difficult. It's handy when I can't find a parking spot on the street and park illegally in front of our apartment building for half an hour :o)
  • alpine325ialpine325i Member Posts: 209
    Check out bmwwheels.com. You can save $75 a wheel for new Star Spoke 44's.
  • gurumikegurumike Member Posts: 442
    I don't doubt it's ordered correctly. The locator doesn't always show all the options, for some reason. We'll check it again in a week or so.
  • roc50mgroc50mg Member Posts: 102
    How long does a car typically stay in 111 status before becoming 112 and so forth? What is the longest anyone knows that the car is on 111 status? I have week 25 production. Does anyone know what week production they are doing now (ie. how many weeks ahead are they)?
    Thanks
  • burrsrburrsr Member Posts: 255
    Still officially unanswered: what are the official redlines of the engine(s). My money's on 6,400rpm, assuming R&T is a reliable source. (In monotone voice) Guru?...Anyone?...Anyone?... Guru?...Bueller?
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    burrsr - I've been digging everywhere for this one and no-one could give me a reliable answer. guru said he'd check with the tech master but never told us what he found out. My dealer's service dept. and salesperson keep insisting on 6,000 RPMs and won't quote anything above that, probably for liability purposes. In my total desperation, I even posted the question on bimmer.org TWICE a week ago and the responses could be summed up as 'Uhhh, why don't you try it yourself and find out...' Well, here's where I am:
    The rev limiter will be different for the 325 and 330 because of the difference in displacement. The real interesting part that I had not thought about (this quoted by a couple of racing fans on bimmer.org) is that the rev limiter will vary for different gears. It would be highest in first and lowest in 5-th. I'm guessing it may be as high as 6,500 in first and probably only 6,000 or a tad over in 5-th. One of the racing fans mentioned that he routinely pushes it up to 6,750-6,800 RPMs but that's with Dinan's Stage 2 software chip upgrade, which claims to be expanding the revs by 240 across all ranges.
    Anyone that can answer this is my new HERO. If we don't get an answer, I guess I'll have to be own hero and try it out myself as soon as the break-in is over. That torque and HP around 6,000 RPMs are so sweet... Considering how fast the RPMs climb in the 325, I'd definitely like to know the limits of my car so I can squeeze all the juice out of it.
  • khoonkhoon Member Posts: 85
    I am planning on Euro Delivery for a 325i and had the following additional questions.
    - How much over Euro invoice is reasonable? Could those who have recently done Munich pick-ups please respond? - What is the average time to receive the car in the US after the drop-off in Europe?
    - How does one handle the trade-in situation? - I'll make a deposit now to pick up a car in July and then receive it in August/Sept (if I'm lucky)

    Thanks in advance.
  • erricksonerrickson Member Posts: 130
    I remember reading a couple of posts about the "Invisible" bug shield, but in lieu of searching through over 3500 *&%$!@ posts, I will pose the following question:

    Anyone using this product? It is available from Bavarian Auto sport for $240 (hood, mirrors, bumper). If anyone has thoughts on this thing, please share them. When I first read the posts, I was skeptical, but after seeing it in the catalog, I am tempted to try it out!?

    Everyone pulled through for me with the "Cancelling my order because of Anne Frank" post, so hopefully I will get some good info on this. Thanks in advance. (holy cow, another on-status post!) :o) (jk Jason, denright, et al)
  • burrsrburrsr Member Posts: 255
    Brave -- that is interesting about the rev limiter varying by gear. If it's true it makes sense: the lower the gear, the less time the engine is in the red zone. For example, in 1st gear under full throttle, the engine may only require, say 0.2 sec to go from 6,000 to 6,500rpm. In fifth under full throttle, it may take 5 or 10 sec for the engine to pull from 6,000 to 6,500, putting the engine into the "at risk" area for greater exposure time (assuming top speed was not electronically limited, of course).

    Also, I wonder if the rev limiter is different from the engine's official redline. For example, the limiter may retard ignition at 6,500rpm in first, even though the official redline is 6,400rpm. I believe the two terms are not necessarily interchangeable.

    I know we are at the brink of scrutinizing every minutia associated with these cars, but isn't it fun? What I'd give to be an engineer at BMW...
  • khoonkhoon Member Posts: 85
    I am planning on Euro Delivery for a 325i and had the following additional questions.
    - How much over Euro invoice is reasonable? Could those who have recently done Munich pick-ups please respond? - What is the average time to receive the car in the US after the drop-off in Europe?
    - How does one handle the trade-in situation? - I'll make a deposit now to pick up a car in July and then receive it in August/Sept (if I'm lucky)

    Thanks in advance.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    You must be a lucky man if the BMW's invisible bra fits nicely on your girlfriend :o) I've heard the bra keeps the body firm and protects it from chips and scratches - that's something to consider too.
  • tgif888tgif888 Member Posts: 351
    According to BMW website. This option is still there. Unless you are in New York state where the particpation is limited.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    It sounds great, your name is just about to make it on my BMW wall of fame in a golden plaque (don't have any prize cups so need to put sth there anyhow) but I think I'd need a little more explanation. How did you find that info? Don't tell me you ran out the door, jumped in the car and redlined it just to find out. If that's the case, I'm driving down to NJ from Boston tonight just to give you the prize money!!!

    Man, wouldn't it be so much fun to be a test engineer at BMW? "No, nein, nein, the M5 got it up to only 7,000, it's the M3 you're thinking about at 7,200. OK, let's do it again and take better notes this time. I know it's hard at 170 mph but damn it, that's what you're getting paid for...What, you want to try it with the invisible bra on? Claudia, kommen zie hier, bitte..."
  • burrsrburrsr Member Posts: 255
    Those RPMs sound a little high to me -- by about 500 or so RPM. Also, why would there be two points? If the ignition is retarded ("kicks in") at 6,800, the engine can never exceed that speed, no matter how hard you tried, so the 7,000 cut-off point would be rendered unnecessary and redundant. Not the new Superman yet, but maybe Clark Kent entering the phone booth... :)
  • Firebird_EOUFirebird_EOU Member Posts: 250
    Can someone confirm this?
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Is prix fixe. Negotiations are limited to options.
  • Gold101Gold101 Member Posts: 22
    1405 Miles in my brand new Steel Gray 330i SP PP 5 speed. The car was just a delight! The engine is quite tourquey, and the transmission allows you to keep it in the fat portion of the rev band. Throttle response was excellent, and the exhaust sounds great under full surge. The car is very quiet, even with the roof open. Very little wind noise. The steering is awesome- Great communication and feel, and very precise on center. The sport seats are incredible. Neither myself or my wife felt fatigued even onece. The Xenon lights are great, but not as bright as my Acura's. The car is dynamically awesome!

    As for my complaints, they are few. First, the auto climate sucks! It constantly is switching fan speeds, and never maintains the right temp. The HK audio system lacks tone and definition. The music never really comes alive, and the highs sound flat at best. The BOSE in my Acura actually sounds much better(That system is still not great mind you). Also, I have a strange rattle emitting from the rear of the car. It was slight, but irritating.

    All in all, it was an awesome road car(much better than the GS300 that is replaced). I look forward to truly making comparisons with my TL-S as soon as I get some more time behind the wheel of the Acura. The problem, however, is that my wife can't pry the keys to HER new car out of MY hands!!!!

    Regards.....
  • alpine325ialpine325i Member Posts: 209
    OOPS! Sorry! Wrong specs! The Ford SVT Cobra Mustang redlines at 6,800 RPM's and the fuel cutoff occurs at 7,000. DUH! I was looking at alot of specs from other cars last night at 2:30 AM. Now I have to go back and find the actual BMW specs for the 325i and the 330i, I did see them, I just have to find them again, sorry! I think I'll cancel the order for the custom tailored "cape", and try to get some decent sleep tonight! :o)
  • bmwagonmasterbmwagonmaster Member Posts: 150
    The strips are slideable because the holes in the bumper are larger than the plastic clips on the strips. That allows the necessary adjustment when replacing the strips. Your strip may be misaligned or a locking clip may be broken. Either way, the dealer should easily fix it. Depending on your dealers service volume they may have strip in stock. If not, that particular BMW part order should only take a few days. But ask NOW to shorten your wait.
  • jpcbeardenjpcbearden Member Posts: 37
    read platypus postings. you'd find a lot of helpful information.
  • postoakpostoak Member Posts: 537
    with Raybear in his earlier post about ED pricing. Although I haven't done an ED, I am planning to and have been studying up on it.

    Platypus did a wonderful write up on his recent ED experience and I remember his deal very well:

    It was $1400 over invoice PLUS he had to pay a dealer in his state $250 to accept the car from the dealer in Maryland who gave him that deal. "Invoice" here means ED invoice which is about $1600 less than US invoice. You can negotiate - there is no fixed price.

    I've been taking note of helpful ED posts, see: #710, #2424, #2425, #2726, #2766, and #3484.

    Oh, and as far as a trade-in goes, I don't think you can do it -- that is, you can't keep your car until your new BMW gets back to the U.S. -- correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.
  • micgamicga Member Posts: 56
    I recently let a friend drive my 325i and he "accidently" reached 6500 RPM in 3rd gear but nothing happened. No fuel shut off or power loss of any kind. I just passed the 1200 mile mark when this happened. I hope no damage was done. What are your thoughts? Also, is it just me or does it seem that the car seems quicker at times and slower other times. Finally, can anyone post the link to the 325i torque curve?

    Take Care
  • kominskykominsky Member Posts: 850
    I've got the same thing with my H-K system. It sounds like something rattling in the rear deck. I'm getting it checked when I take the car in for the steering retro (13 days and counting). I'll let you know what they find...
  • alpine325ialpine325i Member Posts: 209
    Turnermotorsport.com's Dyno Chart showed that the rev limiter kicks in at 6500 RPM's for a stock 325i 2.5 M50 engine. I might deserve a gold star to stick on my forehead (2nd grade), but definitely no cape for this one. :o)
  • khoonkhoon Member Posts: 85
    Post oak - you're on the money, my friend! The deal I have is 1400 over invoice for base and options. The invoice for DE is $22590. I guess folks that have erroneously concluded that it is strictly prix fie will probably have to deal with some post purchase cognitive dissonance!

    When are you planning to pick up your wheels?
  • jimbresjimbres Member Posts: 2,025
    Thanks for the informative post. Don't forget - you promised pictures. I've got at least a month to go before my car shows up, & I'm none too stable. I've gotta see some pictures, Gold101, or I might wind up on the Channel 12 news.
  • postoakpostoak Member Posts: 537
    Alas, I'm not going to Germany until NEXT summer. I have a tentative pick up date of July 8, 2002. Long range planning is always fraught with uncertainly, but I'm pretty confident this will happen on that date, plus or minus a week. As much time as I've spent hanging out on this board, I should be REALLY well prepared. Currently I'm trying to decide on color.

    When are you going?
  • khoonkhoon Member Posts: 85
    Post oak - you're on the money, my friend! The deal I have is 1400 over invoice for base and options. The invoice for DE is $22590. I guess folks that have erroneously concluded that it is strictly prix fie will probably have to deal with some post purchase cognitive dissonance!

    When are you planning to pick up your wheels?
  • khoonkhoon Member Posts: 85
    I'm scheduled to go end July this year. I'm still a bit undecided - I'm driving a '95 Volvo 850 with 92K miles. Everybody says that Volvos are good until 150K-200K. I'm wondering whether I should dump it while it still runs well, or run it into the ground. Can't decide. Any suggestions???
  • postoakpostoak Member Posts: 537
    my answer to your question is posted ahead of yours!

    Well, I'm biased, I would like you to get the BMW and post a great account of your trip like Platypus did. But, to be honest, I've gotten the impression lately that car engines (except for GM engines) seem to be lasting 200,000+ miles these days. I've got 158,000 on my Miata and it runs as good as new -- and it's a little 4 banger.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Well, I was driving back home tonight and as I merged from one route to another, I ended up behind a brand-new black M3 right in front of me in the fast lane. I had to show BEe to a potential buyer shortly before that. The lane opened up and the M3 took off fast. BEe wasn't going to miss this rare opportunity to run against one of the best at one of our last outings. She caught up as soon as we approached traffic again and she gracefully pulled ahead by calculating the openings in traffic. The M3 followed closely and was trying very hard for the next 5-8 miles. How do we know the M3 was trying hard? I assume that anyone going that fast and using all the lanes is trying hard. How fast? Well, let's just say (hypothetically, of course, just for the purposes of this discussion) that the M3 was going well outside of the 3-series' break-in speed range. After another couple of miles, the M3 (about 1/8 mile behind) had to take an exit and that's the last we saw of him. BEe winked at me, she was very happy and proud. She was also a little sad for having to go away but I told her that nice architect would take good care of her and would not let her get bored. What a great exit song...You've been a real warrior, one brave heart. And every time we see one of those new M3's with Shtroumpf Muscle, we'll think about you and smile.
  • postoakpostoak Member Posts: 537
    Jeez, sorry fella, I just noticed your name is Brave1heart not Braveheart1. I never knew I was dyslexic!! I'm surprised you didn't refer to me as Oakpost or something -- you've been very tolerant!
  • mfeldmanmfeldman Member Posts: 140
    my remote e mail may not have been working. so thanks again to all for your shoulder replies. you were all very considerate

    getz-- your post was insightfull, but i have rested it for 3 and 4 week periods without much effect. it just gets me depressed

    now my wife needs to visit the tire store because one honda tire has 2 lumps in the sidewall, very odd, any ideas?

    do you think that the activity on this board has caused the slowdown in the economy?
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    No need for apologies, really. It's just a number, you know. Just don't do it with those variables, you know what I mean - they'll come to haunt you :o)
  • alpine325ialpine325i Member Posts: 209
    Wow, touching story. It brought back memories of my Corvette that I miss so much :o( It sounds like BEe went to a good home and will be well taken care of. :o)
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Thanks, I couldn't believe it either but I cried for the first time in years as I was writing it...It's not totally final yet - I didn't take a deposit but the guy really liked it and said he wanted the car. Will know for sure tomorrow but I can feel BEe's about to find a new home...Just figured out why rich people often keep their older cars around for years. BEe was my first new car and I have a lot of memories from it. We even slept in it once with my wife. I took my parents all the way to Niagara Falls on a trip; lots of pictures. Ahh, well...Never thought I'd be such a kid at almost 32 but it feels so good to let your feelings out.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    http://www.e46fanatics.com/faq/


    4-th question top to bottom. If anyone knows why the HP rating is 192 HP instead of the official 184, please let us know.

  • gurumikegurumike Member Posts: 442
    It's 192 DIN (the German/European equivalent to SAE) Brake horse power. The blue writing shows how 231 bhp (DIN) = 225 hp.

    ....Fry.....Fry.....
    Yes, I haven't forgotten about finding that elusive redline answer. I will. I still say it's closer to 65-66 than 62, though.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Thanks, Guru - I've no idea how DIN converts to U.S.-spec HP but it's interesting to note that the net difference between DIN and U.S. HP is 6 ponies for the 330 and 8 ponies for the smaller 325 (192-184). The % difference on the 325 is substantially higher and I'm wondering if the DIN to HP conversion is linear or the 325 is understated.

    I am joining the 6,400-6,600 camp for a couple of reason. That racing guy that I had quoted seemed knowledgeable. Since he said his Dinan Stage 2 software allows him to push the car to 6,750-6,800 RPMs and since Dinan says on their web site that Stage 1 and 2 expand the RPM range by 240 RPMs, I am now guesstimating the stock limiter to be around 6,500 or a little higher but likely within Guru's estimate of 65-66. Another reason is that on most other 6-cyl engines, it is around 6,200 RPMs. The 3-series' engines are higher performance than most other 6-cyl engines, they have longer bore and stroke and they should be able to handle at least 6,200 RPMs easily. At any rate, BMW's official redline of 6,000 RPMs is very conservative.
  • jhdevoyjhdevoy Member Posts: 33
    My CD Player skips a lot. Practically everytime I hit a pothole - which is a couple of times a day in Belmont, MA. Anyone else experience this?
    I have the BMW Business CD with HK upgrade in 330xi.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Tiger Woods was on his way to Augusta National Golf Course in Georgia to play golf. He took the opportunity to drive his new Mercedes through the hills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. While in Tennessee, he stopped to get gas at a little podunk service station in the middle of nowhere. There was an attendant with three teeth and bib-overalls sitting on the bench outside of the station. The attendant knew absolutely nothing of golf and certainly didn't know who Tiger Woods was. While Tiger was pumping the gas, a couple of golf tees fell from his pocket onto the ground. "Ahhh, say there fella, You dropped somethin'" noticed the attendant. "Oh, yea, Thanks. Those are my tees." replied Tiger. "Your what?" came the response? "TEES" snapped Tiger. "Well, whater them fo'?" "They're Tees - You know! They hold up my balls when I'm driving." "Gawlleee", remarked the attendant. "Dem Mercedes folks think of everything, don't they?"

    Seems like MB is ahead of BMW in the ball-holding contest at least :o)
  • titaniumsil325titaniumsil325 Member Posts: 20
    When I start my car - the air automatically turns on. Is that just a fan blowing in outside air or is it actually the airconditioner?? How do you stop this from happening?? ALSO - for the memory driver seat option is it normal top have to hold down the # for the seat to reposition itself? I thought you should only have to push it once, but it seems like on my car I have to hold it down. Is mine broke or is that just how it is?
  • bgritzbgritz Member Posts: 139
    In '97 we got rid of an older '82 Volvo DL which was my wifes car when we married. When we sold it, it had 213,000 miles showing on the odometer. I would guess it was closer to 250,000 because the odometer had stopped working some time back. It still ran like a champ and was more solid than any car I had ever driven!

    I had always been raised around American autos, namely Jeeps. What I experienced with the Volvo changed me forever. We replaced the Volvo with a 4-cyl. Jetta that has been a hoot and still drives great with 85,000 miles.

    I have been smitten with the European sedan bug ever since, even convincing my mother (a Honda diehard), to replace her '89 Accord with a '00 Passat (she LOVES the car & the turbo).

    That leaves me here, lurking in the closest thing to paradise that I've found on the web waiting, Pavlovian style, till next summer when we will hopefully travel to Munich to pick up a 3er.

    thanks all for the great, informative, inspiring posts
    b.

    p.s.- oh yeah, the Volvo enginge should run quite a while longer. :-)
  • tchootchoo Member Posts: 93
    Logged into owner's circle this morning and to my pleasant surprise it showed that my order was "scheduled for production". I called BMWNA and they confirmed it was in 150! Its a week 22 so they're slightly ahead of schedule.
  • aaa330iaaa330i Member Posts: 63
    I called BMWNA and they told me. Even Owner's Circle shows it's "Scheduled for Production."
  • moodimoodi Member Posts: 1
    I recently bought a 323i 1999 with support package, The current tires Bridgestone Turanze ER30 need to be replaced. Can some one from experince tell how the Continentel CH95 performs I see that on 2001 these are orignal tires, I am more interseted in low noise tires, Tirerack.com rates Yokohama Avid H4/V4 nosie comfort 8.0, 0.5 better than CH95. Or any other tire that is quite rider.

    Another question - When I get on my drivway it has two inch curb my steering moves when I get on this curve, is this normal my other cars (Diamante) does not show it.
    thanks for input.
  • burrsrburrsr Member Posts: 255
    Titaniumsil325 - you know whether the A/C is on or off depending on whether the snowflake button's indicator is on or off. Also, you can actually program the key(s) for various default HVAC settings. There have been posts here about this (one person even had a summer and winter key), and there is lots of Q&A type info on the e46fanatics.com board, I believe. None of this level of detail stuff is contained in the Owner's Manual, however, but there are sources...

    As for the seat memory buttons, it's a safety feature. Before the car is started, simply pushing and releasing the numbered buttons will send the seat to the desired position. Once the engine is started, however, you must press and hold the numbered button until the final position is reached. This is to prevent, say, a taller driver from accidentally hitting a shorter driver's memory button while driving -- you can imagine the safety issues this may create!

    As for engine longevity, in my experience, it's not typically the engine that goes first, it's everything AROUND the engine. Case in point: when I traded my 1992 Camry with 165k miles on it for Gretl, the 3.0l V6 still felt brand new -- no doubt could easily double its life without a hiccup. But some of the engine's surroundings -- radiator, body hardware, suspension components, for example -- were not built with the same usable life as the engine, and it was beginning to show. I theorize that in modern cars (post-1990 or so), the engine will rarely be the limiting reagent in terms of the car's usable life.
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    When you start your car, the actual AC will not be on unless it was on when you turned your car off. You can tell by looking at the "Snow Flake" button to the right of the display. If it is lit, the AC is on. The only other way the compressor will turn on (this is true for most cars, and to the best of my knowledge, BMW is no exception) is if you hit the top defrost button for the windshield.

    When you say, "When I start my car - the air automatically turns on. Is that just a fan blowing in outside air or is it actually the airconditioner??", my guess is that you are wondering why the fan goes to full power for a while after starting the car. If that is what you are asking, then here is your answer:

    The temperature sensor of the car has decided that it is most likely hot inside your car and it is going to do everything in its power to cool the car down to your preset temperature. However, if the AC button is not lit, the only thing the system can do is blow outside air into the car in a (in the case of a hot day) vain attempt to reach your preset. As the interior of your car cools, you will notice on the display that the fan speed will gradually slow down as it gets closer to its target temperature. Opening windows and the roof (if so equipped) and/or turning on the AC will accelerate this process.

    The memory settings for the power seats are operated by pressing AND holding the desired button until the seat has reached the "Saved" position.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
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