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So I asked my dealer what he's going to do to make it up to me? He laughed and said my deal is as good as he can do. So I ask if he'll throw in wheel locks. He says sure. He was already going to toss in mats, so this isn't a big stretch.
Now that I'm off the phone I think I am going to bug him for a discount on the alarm too. I mean, throw me a bone here, I'm looking at a three month wait for this car.
Man, it had better be worth it.
Have you thought about searching for an existing car on a lot that may match or come close to your specifications? Most dealers can do searches for existing vehicles (across different states even) and trade for a car you want. Just an option if that two month wait is just too unappealing. You may need to compromise on a color/option, but it may be worth it.
veekay1(sapphire/gray/PP/CWP/step/AWD/Xenons)
Than, tan in Houston
emilyk (330i/SteelBlue(I'm a gal!)/Gray/Step/SP/PP/CD/HeatedSeats/Xenons
I am also considering Euro delivery - but will probably go with a 530i. I'm surprised in checking out this 3-series board that there aren't more buyers going the Euro route. Especially given some of the long delivery times I am reading about. It's apparantly much more popular for 5-series buyers. Check that board.
The best advice I can give is find a dealer that will negotiate the Euro price. I did. You could potentially get a 330i for $1,000 UNDER U.S. invoice. For example, I could get a 330i 5-speed, sport package, moonrooof, xenon, metallic paint for a total of $33,100, including freight. That's a $37,860 list car ($34,140 invoice). Not bad.
I know of several dealers that will negotiate substantial discounts off the Euro list price (and others that say it is an absolutely non-negotiatble price) Shop around and check out the web site www.eurobuyers.com.
Good luck.
I'll try them. Thank you.
I think in my case the 'sapphire metallic black' exterior caused the delay. Its a very new color, not many people are ordering it and I still havent seen it in flesh: not at any dealer nor on the street; even on Edmunds, if u see the color specs under the 3er, the new colors are N/A...dont know what that means but i am sure my exceptional delay is related to the color choice!
For exterior finish I would go with Zaino only!! The results are dramatic......check out the Trans am (I think) @ www.zainobros.com
No, the alarm is a bit too expensive to be 'thrown in' i think...although in less busy markets it may be a possibility. I have asked my dealer to give me the best price (installed) and then i will take it from there.(alternative could be to buy from circlebmw and get it installed).
i also need a glove mounted Nakamichi 6 disc changer....any idea what/where is the best price.
cheers!!
Oversteer. I remember driving my old Mustang GT. That thing was a wild drive. The fastest way around a corner was usually tail out, heart in your throat driving. Since then I've been in an Integra. While very neutral for a FWD, it understeered at the limit. It'll be nice to step back into a neutral RWD with the option of tightening the corner with oversteer!
Euro delivery: Do it if you can. One of my buddies did it and couldn't stop smiling for a month afterwards, even with the wait for his car in the states. Just realize that the spots tend to fill quickly, although it shouldn't be bad in November. I just came back from France (flew through Frankfurt but was unable to change my car to Euro delivery in time for my vacatiaon). You've GOT to drive your car on those twisty small European roads. Ever see 'Ronin'? Those roads are something else to drive on...a true joy, even in the little Peugot 306 1.6 I drove there!
Although the Peugot was a great handler for a front wheel drive car and quite peppy even with a 1.6L 4, I kept getting blown away by those BMWs and Audis...especially on the highways where they passed me like I was standing still and I was driving 100mph! Yikes! You should have seen the Bimmer's come around the switchbacks in the Alpilles of Provence like they were straighaways! I was green with envy and wished for my car even more!
Rumor has it that glove box mounted CD changer has plenty of problems because it takes CD one by one, so I went for the Trunk mount version. Besides, interior storage room is very valuable for 3 series, I don't want to sacrifice that space for marginal convenience.
Also, do you have any pics?
What did you mean by saying that "glove mounted CD changer takes CD one by one"? Dont they all?
veekay1
If i read you correctly u have 26k on the original rubber, do you ever balance if u dont rotate ? what tires did u get delivered with ? I had the Turanza ER30 .
I was recomended the Dunlop Sp 8000, and saw the new Yoko Parada today , wow what a wild tread pattern.
Kleen wheels, if you read that annoying sticker on your windshield before you rip it off, it states do not use brake dust covers.....
Regards
DL
As an aside, I remember reading about some new rubber compound that Michelin had developed that had the ability to stick to a dry road like soft racing rubber, allow for good traction in wet/ice/snow conditions AND offer long tread wear. Given that I certainly do not drive like the little old lady in the "405 The Movie" http://www.405themovie.com, it seems that I have such a rubber compound on my car. Indecently, if you have not seen that movie, HIGHLY entertaining.
Best Regards,
Shipo
jnscheong: You must hate your little brother. Or else how do you explain the fact you are allowing him to consider getting an A4? You know those just aren't as good. I still think you're a double agent working for audi and maybe even for them ruskies.
1. Does anyone know what lease payment I should expect in the Atlanta area for 36-39 months?
2. A good stereo is important to me, and i have heard some bad things about the stereos in the 3-series. Are the standard and Harman Kardan stereos really that bad?
jnscheong
In the car control clinic you get time on a skid pad to induce and practice understeer, oversteer and throttle steering. You can try it with and without DSC and really feel what it does. In our school the instructors were fabulous and were always with you sharing their knowledge. Most important of all, safety is first and foremost.
Originally, I was very apprehensive about putting my $35,000 baby through what I thought was abuse. It really wasn't. And, as many say, it's the best performance mod you can make to your car. I drive better and in more control, even at speed, than I ever have before. And I've been driving for 30 years. If you think driving on the street is fun, just wait. Give it a try, you won't be sorry.
rrue: You should re-review the contract you signed with them and if they said they would get the scratches out even after you took delivery of the vehicle, then they need to take it out. But, I doubt if it said that in your contract. Did you ever think about checking this vehicle out on carfax.com. It will show you everything about the car including if it was leased, been in a major accident, failed a smog, etc. I used this to get my Rx7 also
M3 Frank
Hey man! Feel bad for you. I would get out of this deal ASAP, take a minor loss if I have to, but get out fast!! No point dealing with them anymore. One point: If this is a certified car, all repairs should be covered, right? Or am I missing anything?
Good luck!
No, the chrome tail pipes are only reserved for the 325i (as is the chrome shadow trim, around the windows). However, the dealer has them, just let them know in advance, so they can have it ready for you. You can also get the chrome 'shadow trim' installed for about $800, but the pipe is better velue for money.
veekay1
On the fun side, I smoked an MB S430 into my favorite S-curve this morning. He was in the fast lane entering the curve when he saw me coming from behind. He punched it and tried to run with me but Shtroumpf Muscle took the outside gracefully and exited the corner about 10-15 mph faster. The MB driver tried to catch up but never came close and then traffic swallowed him up. You'd think anyone should know by now not to try this against a 3-series...
denright - Sorry to hear about your long wait. On the plus side, they must be selling the XI's very well if they cannot schedule them for production immediately.
Alp - your Kleen Wheels megaphone stuff got me into listening to the Wall again - I have plenty of time during my daily commute, as I spend about two hours in the car. I must be very biased because this is one of my all-time favorite albums but I thought it sounded very good on the H-K system. The subwoofers are good for something at least.
"Is there anybody out there?"
No, the chrome tail pipes are only reserved for the 330i (as is the chrome shadow trim, around the windows). However, the dealer has them, just let them know in advance, so they can have it ready for you. You can also get the chrome 'shadow trim' installed for about $800, but the pipe is better value for money.
veekay1
veekay1
See my posts #2424 and #2425 for an extensive write-up and pictures of my Euro Delivery experience.
drstan - You will probably spend between 1-2 hours at the delivery center. The drop-off process was about 30 minutes. I don't know where you're located, but I have an excellent sales contact in the DC area, if you're interested. I purchased from him even though I'm out-of-state (Texas).
For a hotel in Munich, my recommendation would depend upon how long you're going to stay there and if it will be before or after delivery of your car. We arrived a day prior to delivery and stayed in the town center (Marienplatz). Town centers in general are a good idea because you can usually just walk to all the sites/restaurants/cafes. If you don't plan to explore the center of Munich, then the hotel Jedermann is an excellent choice. (about a 10-15 minute walk from the train station)
I share your taste for a rich tan color, such as that found in Ferraris. I believe the E46 M3 offers such a color called "Cinnamon." Maybe it will be offered for the rest of the 3er lineup in '02...
Oh, there was a steel blue 330ci that caught up with me yesterday. The driver was (should I say of course?) a blonde around 40 and she was making her way through traffic gracefully. I had the feeling the 330ci would easily pull away from me and I noticed she was driving a manual. I was going to try and run with her but she took an exit and I never had that chance. I think I was better off that way because she had the car and the determination of a driver that would not let me get away with a checkered flag.
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Yup! Its available, and apparently people pay for it! The dealer even had the cheek to say that "you cant tell the difference" !!
Obviously, its a waste of money.
burrsr - the 325i does not have chrome trim anywhere around the side windows.
It's most likely faster than my pending 325Ci, but as we talked about before, there's so much more to a vehicle than 0-60 times. Maybe it's unfair to compare the WRX with the 3 b/c of price. You get SO much more from the 325, even if it may be slower. The real question is, "How do you feel when you drive your E46?"