Volkswagen Passat 2005 and earlier

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  • steveiowasteveiowa Member Posts: 51
    I've got an '01 GLX and I need to haul some (OK, many) Christmas presents to my new grandson in Colorado. Does anyone know of a car carrier I could use that wouldn't booger up my roof? I have a sunroof, if that makes any difference. Thanks in advance.
  • nerdnerd Member Posts: 203
    My wife had a similar experience with a '95 Chrysler Cirrus. After being hassled by the service department over an electrical problem, she called the dealership owner directly. After giving him a few words of humility training, he was quite civil and arranged anther appointment. After that, the service folks treated her like she owned the dealership. If that tactic doesn't work in your case, start by calling a VW district office, then VW of America until somebody listens. You might try another VW dealer.

    We have walked away from Chrysler and GM over shabby treatment. If VW doesn't treat you any better, perhaps you can walk away from them, too. Just make sure that the dealer and VW of America know why.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    Was at the dealership this past weekend to get my passenger seat heater replaced (non-functional). Unfortunately, they ordered the wrong part and didn't notice until a few hours later.

    Anyways, while I was waiting for the shuttle bus, I looked at the window stickers of an '03 Jetta and '03 Passat. Both cars were 1.8T with Tiptronics. This is what I found interesting:

    Passat:
    Parts Content:
    75% Germany
    1% US
    Engine: Germany
    Transmission: Germany
    Built: Germany

    Jetta:
    Parts Content:
    35% Germany
    30% Mexico
    10% US
    Engine: Germany
    Transmission: Japan
    Built: Mexico

    The interesting portion is the parts content. Jetta's are almost one third Mexican content. The same Tiptronic 5 speed transmission comes from Japan instead of Germany. And the Jetta contains 9% more US content.

    Maybe this is the "hidden" data that makes the current Passat a little more reliable than the current Jetta?

    -Craig
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    On the surface, your problems don't seem like they should be that hard to fix. Which dealer are you using?

    When you picked up the car, what did they say? I mean either a chipped windshield is repaired or not. The door is adjusted or not. The shifter button shouldn't be that hard either (are they saying it doesn't do it for them - if so demonstrate it for them).

    Maybe you need to consider another service department...your other choices include Billco in the North, Day in the East and West, Three Rivers in the South, and Hillcrest in the Northeast. I guess you can tell I'm in Pittsburgh, too.

    On the shifter, are you pushing the shifter firmly into park? It's not stuck slightly between Reverse and Park? A friend had this problem on a Toyota...he really needed to push firmly into Park to get the key to release. I'd try to jiggle the shifter back and forth to see if the key releases.
  • sschilfsschilf Member Posts: 63
    The currect body style was intoduced in 1998 with a facelift in 2001. since cars go thru redesigns every 5 years plus or minus, has anybody head of a new passat for 2004? i hate to buy a 2003 and then next year have the new 2004 come out! vw.com is not saying anything.

    Thanks
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    All things considered, the next Passat will be larger and more expensive (at least according to some articles I read). Possibly 2005 model on sale in 2004?
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I got them to pay the payment because my car sat in the shop for 5 weeks. And I didn't force them to do anything. I told them that they could either make a payment, or extend my warranty to 100K miles for free. They chose the first. :)

    Also, with the rental, I called the dealership's sales manager. I have sent him several customers, so he pretty much will give me whatever I need.
  • steveiowasteveiowa Member Posts: 51
    My V6 is turning 3000 rpms at 80 mph, Fish
  • volkstervolkster Member Posts: 2
    Hi all,

    I just wanted to see if anyone had this problem. My breaks started to squeal at 10000 miles on my 2001 Passat. I brought it to the dealer and they said that there was nothing wrong with it. The brake pads and the disc was still in great condition. I've since brought it in 3 times again and they told me it was still in great condition and that the problem may be 1) the type of material that was used for the brake (metallic pads) 2) was your brakes more often (like spraying it down with water twice a month. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I've since put in a complaint with the customer services dept.

    I was wondering if anyone had a problem with this? If so, how did you resolve it?

    Thanks,
    volkster
  • toneman2toneman2 Member Posts: 19
    I purchased a 2003 GLX 21/2 weeks ago. The dealer did not have the colour I wanted so purchased it on a locate basis. There were 2 in transit to Canada at the time and dealer was able to secure one for my purchase. Called today to see what the status for delivery was and was told that 3 Passats the dealer was waiting for (mine included) were delayed in Halifax ( all VW's coming to Canada come into the port at Halifax) because of a "technical hold" with the vehicles not being released for delivery until the hold was lifted which might be in a week or might be longer . Reason for the technical hold was not given. Does anyone have any idea what the reason might be? I can think of 3 possibilities -a) there is a recall type item and vehicles are being repaired before being released b) there is an issue between the dealer and volkswagen or c) there was some screw up and delivery will be delayed significantly but dealer does not want to admit it and is shooting me a line to cover it up. Any thoughts?
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Maybe Vwguild will comment, but I came up with another possibility...I don't want to be a downer, but maybe the cars were damaged in transit.
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    is a complicated thing...Lots of testing and inspections, and the occasional emissions *Hold*
    which means that a car or a few are randomly selected to be tested to see if emissions components are up to speed...No big deal, save the delay in getting you your car...Patience...
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    VWguild saves the day again! That's good news for toneman.
  • toneman2toneman2 Member Posts: 19
    Thanks for the input. That is helpful. The patience part however is not easy. I want my new car.
  • cmanncmann Member Posts: 17
    My GLX 4mo Wagon is scheduled for mid-March touchdown! Couldn't find one even in transit.
  • weeb35weeb35 Member Posts: 10
    Dealer said the car is in port as of last week 11/26/02. I getting a Dec, 10th / 11th arrival..does 2 weeks seem right.. once it reaches port.. i thought a month was normal from what I have been reading? maybe things can be speed up if its already sold..
  • fiji1958fiji1958 Member Posts: 2
    Hi, I bought my '02 Passat 1.8T Manual tranny GLS sedan this past July. I'm happy with the my 1st new car in 12 yrs, but want to know if the owner's manuals for sedans & wagons are the same? My owner's manual lists "Passat Wagon" for 0.1 Index, 3.1 Controls & Operating Equipment, and 3.3 Technical Data. Sedan owners- is this is what you have? I tried checking VW's site for the publication numbers but wanted to check in with Town Hall, too.
    The dealership is 330 mi. away and my sales rep said he'd send me updates, but hasn't responded to my inquiries since. I just want my books & car to match!
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    It seems that you are missing 3.2..."Tips & Advice"...
  • sschilfsschilf Member Posts: 63
    Which Audi is the Passat GLX the same as? Also which Audi is the PAssat GLX wagon? What are the major differences of the Audis and VWs other then price? Thanks
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    The Audi A4 and Passat have some things in common, mainly platform and the 1.8T engine.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    The new A4 is on the B6 platform. The Passat is on the previous generation A4 (B5) platform. The Passat, since '98, has been on an extended version of the B5 platform. In '01.5, the new style Passat received a stiffened version of the same B5 platform (which is why some people call it the B5.5).

    The 1.8T engine is the same, as is the 2.8 V6. The new A4 doesn't use the 2.8 anymore - it has the new 3.0 V6.

    The current Passat also has the basic suspension set up that the previous A4 had (multi-link front suspension).

    One advantage of the A4 was that a 1.8T could be mated to Quattro (aka 4Motion). If the A4 wasn't so small in the back seat area, I would have strongly considered one of those.

    -Craig
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I sat in an 03 A4 Quattro a couple of weeks ago at a VW/Audi dealer. I found that the center console intrudes very much on the driver's leg room. I liked the car otherwise though. I didn't drive the car, of course, because I couldn't get comfortable in it.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    I haven't sat in an A4, but I've heards complaints from medium to larger people (I fit the large category at 6'3", 230lbs) about the console protruding into the footwell compartment.

    I didn't even consider an A4 due to it's diminutive size, thus never even sat in one. If it was as big as the Passat, I would have considered, and then sat in, and then probably gone back to the Passat if the A4 is that uncomfortable.

    Personally, I don't like the seats in the Passat. The dealership I use for service has a TT in the showroom. It's mighty small - I could never buy one because the seat doesn't adjust down or back enough. But the seat itself was much more comfortable (a lot longer, increasing thigh support).

    -Craig
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I almost fit your stature, at 6'3 and about 260lbs., so I know what you mean about legroom and headroom. The console would get to you if it got to me, in the A4.

    I have a bad back, and wouldn't even attempt to get into a TT. :)

    I like the seats in the Jetta better than in the Passat, actually. The seats hurt my back in the Passat, but not the Jetta.
  • 5speeder5speeder Member Posts: 97
    #5972 Craig: So if I'm reading your first paragraph right, I can conclude that the '02 Passat has a stiffer platform than the '02 A4, right?

    Just curious!
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    I thought the '02 A4 was the redesign.

    The '02 (and '01.5 and '03) Passat is 10% stiffer than the B5 platformed (previous generation) A4. The new A4 is stiffer than both.

    This is the attraction of the Passat to so many people. You get an A4 chassis that's been extended and is stiffer, the same basic suspension (a little softer), same transmission, same engine. Pretty high quality interior bits, and German built. All for a very reasonable price.

    Now that the A4 has been redesigned, there's nothing in common except the 1.8T engine.

    -Craig
  • 5speeder5speeder Member Posts: 97
    got it, thanks
  • nike8nike8 Member Posts: 8
    i have a 2002 passat 17k miles.engine malfunction
    lamp stays on.taking it into the dealer.anyone
    experience this problem and what was done to
    correct it.thanks
  • vonnvonn Member Posts: 1
    I'm thinking about buying a VW, but I'd like to know how the front wheel drive 1.8T Passat/Jetta handle in the snow? Thanks
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    We got about 6 inches of snow here in the Baltimore, MD area this past Thursday. I have a 1.8T Jetta with the ASR (which the 1.8T and V^ Jettas, and all Passats, come standard with). My car handled pretty well in snow, and is able to accelerate from a stop on ice as well, without much drama. The heated seats are a great option, and the heated mirrors (standard on all VWs) means no scraping to see. Highly recommended. :)
  • tyrannosaurustyrannosaurus Member Posts: 20
    We've had a fair bit of snow over the past week or so and my Passat sedan with stock wheels/tires (Michelins) has handled it on plowed and unplowed roads beautifully. I'd say stability and steering was surprisingly as good as my 99 Grand Cherokee with Quadradrive.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I was surprised to be going the same places as 4WD trucks on snow day (last Thursday) as well. My co-worker just bought a new RS-X, and has been boasting about it lately. I asked him how it was in the snow, and he said he couldn't even hardly get off his street. I took my car up his street (he lives 4 blocks from me) with no problems at all. Thank the VW Gods for ASR. :)
  • arjay1arjay1 Member Posts: 172
    Wow, 20 plus years of working on my own cars and I am stumped by an air filter.
    I have 40,000 miles on my 2000 Passat performed the required maintenance this weekend. All except the air filter change. I can't figure out where the air filter is. I am feeling stupid but am attributing it to my Scottish heritage.
    Obviously, I do not have a factory manual for the car and I guess I need one. In the meantime, who can enlighten me on where to locate the air filter?
    Stumped with skinned knuckles...
    R. J.
  • birdboy1birdboy1 Member Posts: 39
    Would like to share with all that i just put on 4 all weather Nokian H rated NR all weather tires. This weekend the Passat was surefooted as it drove through 7 inches of snow, slush and ice combo. i also drow 200 miles on the NYS thruway at an average sped of@@## and the tires were smooth running with very little additional noise. They seem to be a big improvement over the Conti. tires, also I still got 29-31 mpg according to the computer.
    And just when you think you heard it all, I accidently found a little button on the side of the cruise control that shuts off the illuminated stuff on the steering wheel. I know why???
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    That's one of the hidden niceties of the Passat and VW's in general. They throw in these little things that make you go "Wow. This must be here for a reason..."

    I can think of two.

    1. During the day, if you want to drive with the driving lights or headlights (if it's cloudy or raining). The lights on the wheel come on. It's actually more difficult to read the button labels with the backlight on during the day. So I turn it off and the lettering becomes white again.

    2. At night, some may find the lights distracting. Turning the wheel left and right makes those nifty red lights go round and round. If it's distracting, one can turn it off at night as well.

    -Craig
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Actually, the steering wheel buttons (at least the ones in my Jetta) are always backlit with a warm red tone. You can see it at night as soon as you turn on the car. I know where the buttons are, but the lighting doesn't bother me. Makes the steering wheel look cool, I think. And I don't think there's a way to disable those lights either.

    I wish the "seek" button went through the presets on the radio instead of just seeking the stations. That would make alot more sense.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    Yes you can turn off those lights.

    On the cruise control side of the steering wheel buttons, on the side there's a button you depress to shut off the steering wheel lights.

    It's also mentioned in the owner's manual
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    Maybe you're steering wheel is a part of the 35% of Mexican content the Jettas get. :)

    Actually, when I was in my garage a while back, I did notice that there is a very very very slight lighting effect on the steering wheel buttons when the headlights are off (and car is on/started). But button behind the steering wheel didn't have an effect on it. But this isn't even visible during daylight or normal driving situations (I had to bring my eye really, really close to the buttons to see it). I don't remember why my face was so close to the steering wheel, though.

    I personally like the lights at night. I feel like Knight Rider. :)

    -Craig
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    Nice to know that of the top 100 stolen vehicles in 2001, only one VW (the Jetta) appears on the list (at number 83).


    For those too lazy to go to the link below, the top 10 are:

    1 Toyota Camry

    2 Honda Accord

    3 Honda Civic

    4 Oldsmobile Cutlass/Supreme/Ciera

    5 Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee

    6 Chevrolet Full Size C/K Pickup

    7 Toyota Corolla

    8 Ford Taurus

    9 Chevrolet Caprice

    10 Ford F150 Pickup

     

    http://www.nicb.org/services/top_stolen_100vehicles.html


    -Craig

  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Considering it takes a paper clip to pop open a Honda (my best friend's a locksmith and has done it 100 times), no wonder they are the first stolen!
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I have read the owner's manual extensively, and have had my car for a year as well. I never knew about the ability to turn off the steering wheel lights at night. Cool!
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    This is something that every VW salesperson should explain. It's their duty (and is why they make money) to inform the consumer of each and every feature of the vehicle being sold.

    The proof is in the pudding.

    -Craig
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    They don't mention the steering wheel button because they're too busy telling you what fuel to run through the engine!
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    no offense, but RTFM
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    My salesman told me that my Jetta didn't even have an exterior trunk lock. He said I had to use the remote or the interior release to get into the trunk. What a dummy.

    I know more about most cars over the dealers when I go to look at them. I am a serious car enthusiast, so I attribute it to that.

    I also found the button to turn off the steering wheel lights. I am glad someone posted about it, because I might have hit it accidentally and thought the lights went out on me.
  • max77max77 Member Posts: 9
    Does anyone know if the door locks, that lock at 5mph, are supposed to unlock when you turn the car off?> '03 Passat 1.8t
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    They are not, no. You can have the car programmed to unlock the doors when you remove the key from the ignition. I had my 02 Jetta programmed that way. Alot easier to get to the back seats, because I always kept forgetting to use the switch to unlock the back doors...
  • max77max77 Member Posts: 9
    Does anyone know if the door locks, that lock at 5mph, are supposed to unlock when you turn the car off?> '03 Passat 1.8t
  • max77max77 Member Posts: 9
    Do you know how?
  • max77max77 Member Posts: 9
    Has anyone experienced problems filling tank (03 Passat 1.8t) I can't seem to fill the darn thing all the way to 16 gal.
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