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Keep in mind as others have said, you're nearing the end of the model year. Anything you find in a 2001 is going to be slim pickings by Olds or any other manufacturer. Intrigue's have been selling like hotcakes but dealers didn't stock their lots after the news that Olds was shutting down. So what they did have sold quickly and there isn't much left. The dealer closest to me had 4 Intrigues. A week later he had none.
GMBuypower.com is your best bet. That way you can see what dealer has the car you want and go straight to him. You'll save a couple hundred dollars in the process because the dealer won't have to have the car delivered to him.
More than likely the rebates will continue into 2002 models. It would be the epitome of stupidity not to at least continue to offer the $2000 cash back when you're wrapping up a car line. Who would want to buy a car that's going out of business and pay top dollar for it? Especially when there are other vehicles (made by the same company) that are offering cars with rebates and cost less?
So if time is on your side, I say wait for 2002s to hit the lots. If not, try doing a search on your own.
mosaix... We're in the model year change-over period. 2001's are out of production and the 2002 models haven't started arriving in large numbers yet. Be patient. Wait for that 2002 midnight blue GL that you REALLY want. I bought a 99 GL in December of 98 for $100 over invoice, and that was when Olds was still in business and the Intrigue was "semi-hot." Keep in mind, also, that a 2001 Intrigue will be considered a year old in about two months...
NASCAR doesn't need fuel injection and OHC engines. The old pushrod V-8's make over 700 hp and live over 500 miles at over 8,000 rpm... not bad if you ask me. Carbs are just fine for "full throttle" racing.
My Ex-Intrigue was in the shop 3 times for brakes problems all before 15k miles. I am at just over 13k on the CL, not due for service till 15. At which time I will have a complete run down performed, with special attention to the brakes.
Will Mr. Woods come out on top this w/e??
NASCAR ::: I have heard that one must see it in person to enjoy & appreciate [which I have not had the pleasure]. Otherwise I find it very boring to watch on TV, unless one is napping.
To some extent, I feel that FWD is actually a handicap in bad weather. Not for drivers like lee18 but for the rest of the public who think like SUV owners--"Thou hath front wheel drive, therefore, thou art invincible!" Just like 4WD truck owners, most FWD drivers drive way too fast in the snow or ice. They wind up creating accidents that FWD was supposed to help them avoid. Give them traction control and PCS/StabiliTrak/VSC/ESP or whatever else they want to call it, they can be even more dangerous than RWD w/o the extra tools. But just like a knife can be used to prepare a lip-smacking meal or to kill someone, all these foul-weather features (including FWD) are only as good or bad as the person driving.
But bottom line is that the technology is out there for RWD to make a comeback. And when it gets cheaper, AWD may become standard. Then everyone will be happy. Or just buy a Subaru.
http://www.autonews.com/html/main/stories0716/chevy716.htm
The smaller cars on the Epsilon platform will still be front wheelers with an AWD option, according to the article. The biggest problem it says Chevy has is keeping the cost down while still offering stability control systems.
I personally blame the execs. Horrible advertising decisions, introducing the car without the engine they knew they wanted to put in it, bold new designs but no name to tell where to get one from, waiting until too late to offer the 5/60 warranty or something similar. I think the biggest of these is the advertising. VW isn't selling vehicles because they are examples of great german engineering (although I think they are) but because they put their stuff--new features and all--in front of the public. Beatles were selling like hotcakes when they were introduced. But they still advertise them. GM gets off to a good start then falls off the face of the earth once cars start moving. Chevy is the only one not following the norm. I think that has a lot to do with why the Impala is selling well.
All of that can be blamed on the boys and girls at the top.
Do you have an Intrigue?
This morning I'm following about 25 vehicles in the leftmost 3 lanes, all going about the same speed, about 65 MPH. (Traffic often moves at 75MPH here. It "feels" really slow!) The rightmost "truck" lane is open, and the road is slowly curving to the left.
Well, nobody is interested in using the "outer" lane to pass.
But I drive this highway every day, and I know there won't be another exit ramp for a mile... and there don't happen to be any trucks over there at the moment...
So.... 2nd gear, and WHHOOOOOAAAAMMMMM!!!!!!
That sure felt good! :-)
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
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I was listening to my buddy's 3.2TL-S as he pulled out of our driveway last night. Not a quiet engine at all and it has nothing on the Intrigue's 3.5L except power. Of course we are talking about C$10K+ more car also.
Still prefer CART as you can go in the paddock and see the drivers. Almost got run over by Brian Herta on his moped in '95. Was too busy looking at the Tecate' Girls to see him coming. Saw Danny Sullivan up close in his last year of racing too.
Enjoy CART also because the cars are turbocharged and a litle bit quieter than the open exhaust NASCAR, IRL and F1 cars.
I am usually worn out 1 hour into the race if it is too noisy. Just can't enjoy it.
I think one thing we haven't touched on is how television dulls the sensation of speed. Most of the guys on this board have not been to a race where cars go 200 mph. It is absolutely amazing in person. I can't even put it into words.
There has never been a really great car race movie for that very reason. Film and video can't capture it.
jgriff:::::What is a 15000 mile checkup??? The only maintenance cars need is an oil and filter change, and a tire rotation.. If the brakes are bad or rotors warped; you know what to do??? Right!!!
I do not like to knock something until I have tried it, that is why I am saying that maybe NASCAR in person may be much more exciting [someday maybe I will see one]. Although I have heard from many local fans, that getting out of the parking lot of such an event can be one very long time consuming chore [2-4 hours]. I have NO patience for parking lot crawls.
I have been to many PGA/Nike.com tournaments and while it is fun to be right there in person, the TV is packed with a lot more shots and entertainment. Went to the US. Open in Tulsa, one day [Friday] was plenty, watch the weekend from the comfort of my easy chair with the cold beverages close by.
Why would Olds NOT keep in force the 5/60-Warranty for their 2002 models [and beyond]. Again if it is working well now, [they should not change it], it is just going to discourage buyers.
Quote: Safety considerations dictate that certain vehicles ... cannot be permitted on the Auto Road ... Acura, Sterling, Jaguar, Saturn and Honda autos with automatic transmissions must show a "1" on the shifter to be allowed on the Road.
What is wrong with Acura/Honda etc.?
Unfortunately i have never experienced it. But my friends with BMW's say it happens to them all the time. I am really missing out on Acura/Mercedes/Infinti/Lexus/BMW ownership experience.
Don't ya think?
Not to get to technical but film is 24 frames per second and video is 30 frames per second. Not fast enough. The zoom lenses distort distance too.
Have you ever been to a race where the speeds are high?
Redline65 ::: I am sure if I was in a pinch I could take my CL to a Honda dealer. However my Acura service being as good as it is I would avoid it if at all possible. Plus with my dealer, I get a loaner vehicle for the duration of the day [much more convenient than a taxi, or drop-offs, or waiting etc. etc.].
I am pretty picky about my service, I gave up the Jiffy-Lubes, Quick-Pits oil change places of the world many years ago. I have a little more faith in most dealers that I purchase my vehicles from.
If a race movie like Grand Prix, which was already one of the best race movies ever made, was filmed in Showscan with modern special effects, it would be dynamite.
Probably, they had a bad experience on the Mt.Washington road with these makes, if they check the low gear.
I was not yet on the Mt.Washington. However, the last Sunday we drove up the Mt.Ascutney in VT. The length of the road and its elevation is roughly 1/2 of the Mt.Washington road. Even while descending on the low gear, I had to brake much our Regal, and the brake rotors became scorching hot. Stopped twice (overkill) to let them cool down.
The views from Mt.Ascutney are magnificent!
http://www.vtstateparks.com/htm/ascutney.html
All work was preformed by Olds; no quickies at the teenager run stores..
I go somewhat short on oil life because of my driving habits of the higher end speed range believing that the engine deserves clean fresh oil, small price to pay when one pounds it along..
The SLP exhaust including $50.00 for Fed-x was around $400.00..
The other expense was the Master Care extended warranty through GM with 0 ded 6/75 coverage for $1025..This coverage includes car rental and road service...
So far it is a cheap date with the next expense coming up is tires which is a no-brainer for 400-450..
Hate to bore some owners with this data but a few people may appreciate this break-down..Gas mileage is btw 25-28, using the 87 octane and had seen as high 30.., but driving is no fun when you are in that range..
At my age and in the political climate of today; please realize that our driving freedoms will be curtailed drastically in the upcoming years..Due to my lifestyle and career path considerable driving has been necessary; and the rubbish of restrictions being compiled and considered are scary so when this kid hits the pavement; I fly..
My Z will have front and rear radar coverage because I am getting lazy and somewhat careless in scanning for the ticket issuers..
Since I started driving in 1947 things on the road have really changed..The good old days are truly missed..First ride was a 35 Ford w/47 Ford V-8, mechanical brakes and the exhaust ending under the floor boards.. I was 14 yrs old and it was for getting around on the farm and a few mad runs on the backroads..
It is interesting to see the varying styles of the drivers and you can actually tell which ones are faster by the way they approach the corners and by what they do in the corners.
Some of the drivers would swing wide and come in fast and then exit a little slower. Sullivan would do the Nigel Mansell early apex-in style and then was on and off the gas through the entire corner! he'd come off the corner like a scalded cat. He was clearly faster than the second tier of drivers.
Incredible to watch and even harder to explain to someone who has not been there.
We need to get one2one to an Indy car race. Probably at Mid-Ohio or something since it is closer to where he lives.
Although shortly after buying the car, I did try driving in "3" for a while-- under the assumption that a downshift to 2 would take less time. But I don't think it really does... so I just leave it in "D" now, and let the electronics figure things out when I mash the gas.
9899Olds- I've been able to get 32MPG on a cross country trip. But that was using cruise control on level ground, at legal speeds. I think anyone who really *drives* their Intrigue, just has to get used to the high 20's as the price of fun!
There's certainly no question the Intrigue is *fast*. I have a 55 mile commute that I do in 45 minutes almost every day. (And about 4 miles of that is in town.)
3.5L with 3.29 ratio
The Olds V-8 is a farce...
focus18 : Bought mine for about $900 over invoice. I can help you if needed. Canadian dealer's won't sell at invoice (different system) but you don't have to pay too much. Let me know.
White6 : Love those old glory days of Indy car racing. The IRL split has really fragmented open wheel racing. Sad!
RE : mileage : Can get around 28-30 on cruise @ 120km/h no problem. Always use 87.
Also, in a manual transmission, when you clutch-down, the engine is not engaged, so you're coasting, and you have time to phase the engine power with the clutch-up, to prevent speed loss.
Upshifting is probably safe to do yourself. I've noticed the interlock doesn't even require you to press the button to make a manual upshift. But the computer does a pretty good job of picking upshifts anyway... so again, there's no real need to try doing it on your own.
This is the hi-tech age..Make money and the world will take most of it; invest wisely and you could lose most of it..
If it isn't drive; try 3rd and it wil probably shift into whatever gear it needs..Don't worry, GM has lots of people working on problems...
If you are running twisting backroads and running hard i often put it in second gear. It really helps the car get off the corners without an auto downshift.
Second gear is good for 80 mph in the intrigue.
Just don't shift it into first while you are moving. Talk about a clunk!
You'd think i still owned one.
This was a 1969 Mercury and the interlock was pretty worn. He downshifted into.... REVERSE! The car came to a smoking, stinking, squealing stop real quick. (The cop just kept on going, looking at his own dashboard wondering where the sound was coming from.)
Surprisingly, the car continued to be drivable after that experience. (But it would take a LONG time of poking and shifting around to go into reverse.....!)
So it's not much. But it was nice to hear the song of the 3.5 on film.
I moved here in Jan. A little bit curious about the area, wondering if you have any knowledge of the Fishers area.
thanks
The comparison is based on 2000 Model year vehicles with 15K miles on the odometer and excellent condition under my own zipcode:
1)Chevrolet Impala LS:
Average Trade-in: $16,488
Average Retail: $19,346
Dealer Certified: $20,091
2)Oldsmobile Intrigue GLS:
Average Trade-in: $16,406
Average Retail: $19,648
Dealer Certified: $20,393
3) Ford Taurus SES:
Average Trade-in: $13,625
Average Retail: $16,593
Dealer Certified: $17,338
4) Honda Accord EX V6:
Average Trade-in: $18,692
Average Retail: $22,479
Dealer Certified: $23,129
Based on these resale value results the cars rank as follows:
1)Honda Accord EX V6
2)Chevrolet Impala LS
3)Oldsmobile Intrigue GLS
4)Ford Taurus SES
The Accord has the best overall resale value figures, however, it is only about $2,000 to $3,000 apart from the Impala LS. The Impala LS has the best resale value of the *domestics*. While the Intrigue GLS still retains decent value it exhibited a greater degree of initial depreciation. The Taurus SES was the worst in terms of resale value.
Never buy a Taurus brand new.