2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Did they check your engine mounts and cradle insulators?

    It seems to me your dealer is shooting in the dark....
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    I'll take the Hubcaps! They look better than mine! ha ha....Don
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    I asked them to check the Motor Mounts and Cradle Mounts, they said when they crack they flatten out or look odd, Mine are all OK , they also said that if they repalce a cradle (2000's?) they replace the mounts even if they appear to be good to begin with. They tightend up everything, I really do not notice the "Clunk" as much, and I was going in circles prior to going in there to assure that it would do it. Strange...I was in full view of my car while it was up, they have a new garage and a fenced customer viewing area not too far from the lifts. Don
  • wyoimpwyoimp Member Posts: 87
    Could it be that there needs to be a brace between the two shock towers for added rigidity? Many high performance cars, especially FWD, have a beefier cross brace installed. This keeps the front end stiffer. Only question then would be "Where do the stresses go to next?".
    Are W-Cars unibody constructionor a mix (powertrain sub frame attached to a unibody)?
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    All W's are unibody construction.
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    All 2000+ Impala's have a Brace/Bar spanning the 2 Shock/Strut towers. The Thick (I'm sure Hollow) Black Bar ties the two together for the already rigid "upper" Front end, Though not a out 'n' out Flat angular Brace, It's better than nothing. Don
  • hvan3hvan3 Member Posts: 630
    Gas in my local area is now .95 cents!! Yeehaa!

    This is the best "tax relief" anyone can ask for!!
  • Maybe the Arab nations are thanking us. (Or, maybe they feel a little guilty.)
    Or, it could be our new bestest buddies, the Russians! Go Big Bear!
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    "All the Impala rear ends look like that."

    Hahahah
  • wyoimpwyoimp Member Posts: 87
    So then maybe that Impala would make the perfect donor for a homemade El Camino or Station Wagon. One can dream and dreams are free.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    We should take up a collection and buy that impala, and then we will have an endless supply of parts.

    Too bad it is not a fully loaded LS. I could probably sell the wheels/tires, spoiler, sway bars and make a $1000.
  • Unfortunately, it doesn't come with enough Intermediate Steering Shafts for everybody.
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    Hubcaps and the Fuel Filler Door, It seems to have come out un touched! What was the "Cargo Net" thinking when it got "Slammed"? "Hello back of the Rear seat, Nice to see you?! Don
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    Those 2000 Hubcaps really are better than the ones I got New on my 2001 that are Actually off of a 2002 Impala, I will post a Pic soon so you can see what I mean...when I say Greenish Silver......Don
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    www.autosite.com has finally gotten the nOvemeber
    sales figures up and the results are good.
    November 2000: 12,556
    November 2001: 15,051

    YTD 2000: 161,676
    YTD 2001: 193,311

    That means Impala is on track for over 200,000 sales this year!
    Sales should be even higher, but the inventory is not there.
    Most of the dealerships in my area have almost no cars.
    They always get their inventory after the first of the year in anticipation for the Spring.
    Impala ranks #7 this year ahead of the Buick Lesabre at #10.
  • macgyver24macgyver24 Member Posts: 36
    It finally snowed in Toronto yesterday, and as promised earlier, here is my first report on the Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice winter tires.

    We got about 2 inches of the stuff in just a couple of hours, right in the middle of rush hour on a Friday afternoon. Driving to my office christmas party, it was obvious that people weren't prepared at all, which made me feel better that I bought my winter tires two weeks beforehand. It made me feel really good when some guy making a left turn in front of me went slip sliding right into the curb! In the short amount of driving we did, I was pretty impressed. Even on packed snow, the car was absolutely glued to the road. In spots where others took it really slow, I could plow through with ease - even around icy corners! The thing that amazes me most about these tires is how quiet they are on dry pavement. Even on the freeway, the car glides along silently. I think these tires are quieter than the OEM Uniroyal Tigerpaw tires!
  • Again, you have to take into account fleet sales. That's probably the reason you aren't seeing Impalas at the dealers. Rental companies, as well as police and government sales account for a huge percentage of Impala sales, I'm sure.
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    This was my first time driving my LS in the snow. I was quite impressed.

    I didn't think I would like the traction control, but I was wrong. It definitely makes it absurdly easy to keep my lead foot under control and the front end pointing straight. My only fear is that I'll forget how to drive a car without it!

    The Impala ABS has a very different feel to the Lumina I had the last few years. The ABS "pushes back" a lot harder in the Impala. Makes it REALLY easy to tell when ABS is active. Sometimes with the Lumina the ABS pedal feedback was hard to feel. I like the Impala much better on this. I'm always impressed with how well the ABS system can keep you pointing straight under hard braking on slippery surfaces.

    The heated mirrors are AWESOME! I've never had these before and after last night's ice/snow mix on the drive home I can tell they're going to be a welcome addition.

    Overall impression - very stable and confidence inspiring, even in those nasty drifts that grab and try to pull you into the ditch. I bet the car would be incredible with real snow tires!
    Brad
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    So the Government and car rental companies buy 10,000 Impalas a month? Nah.....
  • Do you think 4000 a month is out of the question for fleet sales? I don't.
    If you took fleet sales out of the Taurus totals, they wouldn't come close to the Toyonda Camcord sales, even though they're always grouped together in the top three spots.
    Yup. Fleet sales account for huge numbers of certain domestic models.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Could it be that the Impala is the only GM midsize sedan that posts record sales to retail customers?

    Could it be that a lot of people seem to like the car enough to by pass such pills as the Camcord and the Taurus?

    It is possible, don't you think?
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    A sale is a sale is a sale. There are some fleet sales in there, especially since the lumina is no longer produced.

    But the trend is upward and i don't know if Chevy was expecting the impala to be such a sucess.

    The downside to the fleet and program cars is that the rarely have a CD player. The guy in my office who was searching for a used LS could not find one. He bought a beautiful silver Lesabre program car. But it doesn't have a CD player.

    The program car resales don't seem to be hurting the used car values on the LS's. Their prices are holding up quite well.

    Unlike the intrigue, which seems to be in every used car lot in America.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    IMHO, only Chevrolet and GM want to call this car a mid-size. It is really a full size car, and is actually larger inside than the full size Fords, at least if you mean usable space...with the exception of the trunk (most of which on the full size Fords is a well that the older people who buy Crown Vics and Grand Marquis have difficulty reaching into).

    Full size cars have a fuddy-duddy fleet image, and scare many customers off. VOILA, our Impala is MID-Size. Except when we want to call it full size.

    The Impala is smaller outside, larger inside, a heck of a lot more fun to drive than the Fords, easier to control, FAR easier to park, more durable (from what I have seen so far) and, so far, doesn't have the reputation of being a car just for companies and taxis and cops. On the other hand, no V-8 is available, nor is full climate control, nor rear wheel drive. Some would argue it is missing an asset: body on frame construction.

    Could it be that GM wanted to keep best selling full size car title for the Buick LeSabre? After all, that car sells for more than 8 thousand bucks more money when comparably equipped. Has to be more profit for GM in there. (Still, though, no V8 and no rear wheel drive. Anybody wanna bet a Buick with those two things will replace the Park Avenue?)

    Just imagine what an Impala SS would be like and what GM would charge for it. Will we find out soon? Anyone know?
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Body on frame is not an asset it is a negative.
    Body on frame's advantage is in trucks only.
  • No doubt the Impala has relatively high retail sales, especially for a GM passenger car. However, to deny the huge fleet sales is to deny reality. Fleet sales are not a measure of a car's popularity. Although, if you remove those fleet numbers, I'm sure the Impala is still fairly popular.
    Personally, I find huge sales to be a negative attribute. We specifically avoided popular cars when we chose the Impala and CL. Who wants to drive the same thing as everyone else? It's like wearing the same prom dress, especially when all the others at the prom have rented that dress.
    Now, I'm seeing more Impalas on the road, and it takes away from the uniqueness of mine. Thankfully, the CL is still fairly rare, especially when compared to the TL (or, the Impala for that matter.)
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    Ok... wait just a minute. You wore a rented dress to your prom? Ummm, I could be wrong, but aren't you a dude?

    Just kidding, I'm sure you were stunning...
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    While at my dealership yesterday looking in to having my front end issues resolved I saw a Black 2k base with a 3.8l engine, leather 60/40 seats and sun roof on the lot. 25k miles and a disclaimer on the windshield. The person who had this car previous had had it bought back by GM, claimed "engine stalls". My salesman friend/neighbor said they had picked this car up at auction for $12k and they had a selling price of $14,999.00 on it. This was the only used Impala on their lot. They had 8 other Impalas, only one was an LS. In the paper there were only 4 Impalas (used) listed for sale. This is a major metro paper serving a county with 3million plus people. The ads in the paper for new cars list all kinds of deals for new cars and trucks.
    Cavaliers, 142 to choose from, Silverados, 60 to choose, Malibus, 115 etc...No Impalas listed at all in quantity.

    The service manager asked me (after I said I might be interested in the LS sport that was coming in 2002)why don't I wait for the Impala SS that is coming for 2003, said it will be getting the SC 3800 that goes in the LeSabre, 265hp. I don't know folks, we have heard so many different things in the last year and a half, I don't know who to believe.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    LeSabre doesn't even come with the supercharged option. Bonneville, Grand Prix, Park Avenue, Regal, but no LeSabres. And for 2002, at least, the horsepower is 240 on the supercharged 3800.

    I keep hearing V8, NOT supercharger. Whatever...I just hope it isn't the same one that comes on the LeSabre! :)
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    I don't know whom to believe anymore, I had not heard of a supercharged 3.8 in a LeSabre either, maybe I'll ask him to elaborate tomorrow when the car goes in...
  • Of course not!!! I wouldn't wear a rented dress. I bought mine! ;-)
    The other guys' dresses were rented, though. They were the "base" dresses, but they looked just like mine.
    If I was a woman, this analogy would work much better. :-)
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I am still wondering how the impala will handle 285 hp and lots of low end torque, as the engine is sure to be a pushrod. I think that a half throttle start would blow the front tires off the car. I am sure trac control will be mandatory.
  • garnesgarnes Member Posts: 950
    The Caddy has 275 HP SLS and 300 HP STS with torque in the 295/300 range. They are front drive and it all works great.

    I really hope for a V8. That would be a really cool option for the Impala or Monte. I don't see how they could offer front and rear drive cars at the same time for the same model.

    A guy on the Aurora board had mentioned GM is working on an all new V6 pushrod engine. I'll bet you guys have kicked that around here before too.
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    I recently read in the paper that alot of Car Rental Company's are selling off large percentages of their "Newest" fleets in a mass exodus to conform to the lacking amounts of travelers, I work for an airline and they have rental cars piled up in "our" Huge parking lot as a holding facility for the rentals.. Hint...it is Hertz and I see plenty of LS Impala's parked there daily, there are a lot more cars than there are people to rent them, so I think the high number of Fleet Sales will simmer down over the long run from now on.....Don
  • You're also gonna see a lot more LS Impalas at the Hertz Car Sales lots. They've already got 2001's for $17-18K, and they sell the 2000's for $13-15K.
    They usually don't put them out for sale until they reach 25-27K miles. However, I think that if the travel biz stays slumped for awhile, you'll start to see lower mileage LS' on their lots, at very good prices.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I was waiting for someone to mention Cadillac.
    My point is that torque from a large pushrod engine is weighted strongly to the low end.
    The Northstar may have 300lbs of torque, but a 4.8L or 5.3L Chevy will flat cream it from a dead stop. Even with the 3.71 gear in the STS.

    A 3500-3600 Impala with 300 hp and 330 ft. lbs. of torque would be a bear in the rain and just plain scary with the power down coming out of a turn. Lets hope trac control and PCS are mandatory.

    I have driven a deville with a Northstar and it felt sluggish to me around town. The only time it came alive is when i REALLY put my foot into it.
    One of the car mags just drove a Northstar in Europe and they thought it felt sluggish too.

    By the way, my 215 hp intrigue had torque steer big time and would sometimes change lanes when i floored it in the rain.
  • crosley4crosley4 Member Posts: 295
    for car or truck. But then I am too middle aged I guess.


    Time will tell what GM puts under the hood of an Impala SS if the car is ever built and released.


    Try this for FWD with a v8. A supercharged 350 chevy hooked to a 1966 Toronado frame section under a 1970 Chevelle. Over 500 hp and plenty of torque steer.


    FWD Chevelle


    Tony

  • spider717spider717 Member Posts: 106
    I was driving to my girlfriends graduation today and I saw an Impala that caught my eye. First off I have never seen so many Imps in one day. Must have been over 10. Most LS, didn't see any sport ones though. ANYWAY, I caught a glimse of an LS Impala, tanish in color, with a ragtop! I'm assuming this is a 2002. Now I'm sure it has the fake "convertible look" like the buick lesaber. Still I didn't know this was an option on the new Impalas. I might try to get a picture or 2 for my collection.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    that that was a dealer or after market installed accessory. Trust me, the car companies would love to forget vinyl tops, but many owners of Caddies and Lincolns, esp in the Deep South, think otherwise. It is THEIR car! :)

    LeSabres with that treatment are also done after they leave the factory.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Maisto has just released the 1/18 scale version of the NYPD Impala police cruiser. Excellent replica with a great deal of detail.


    http://www.exoticar.com/pages/more_info_2.cfm?product_id=2252


    Maisto also produces the 1/18 versions of the "Tennesee State Trooper" and "Chicago Yellow Cab" Impalas. Maisto sells a smaller 1/24 scale version of the "Tennesee State Trooper" Impala cruiser.


    I already have both of these and will be purchasing the NYPD model to complete my 1/18 2000 Impala "Triplet" collection.


    Another diecast model manufacturer, "Welly Diecast" has announced it will be releasing a 1/24 scale version of the 2002 Impala, probably the civilian LS version. I will be in the look for that one.


    http://www.wellydiecast.com/coming.htm


    If you happen to be interested in the 2000+ Montecarlo SS coupe, another diecast manufacturer, Sunstar, has two very good replicas of the 1/18 SS coupe and the 1/18 Brickyard 400 pace car.


    One of my recently purchased 1/18 models, is the 1/18 1981 DeLorean coupe finished in "Stainless Steel" complete with opening hood, trunk and the famous "Gull wing" doors. This model is a showstopper. Sunstar will be releasing the 1/18 "Back to the Future" DeLorean in January 2002. If you are into the diecast precision scale model hobby, I highly recommend to add the 1/18 DeLorean to your collection. This is the first time in 20 years the DeLorean is available as a 1/18 scale model.

  • Ah. But, do these die-cast models come with the tasteful vinyl top option? ;-)
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Sure, but it is offered as an aftermarket option...
  • jeffbogjeffbog Member Posts: 63
    I wonder if when you turn the wheel, it clunks (of course, at 1/18th level of noise)
  • It's only 1/18th the noise, but it starts happening in 1/18th the time.
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    "PLASTIC" Cradle! ... ha ha.... I too have both the 1/18 and 1/24 Tennessee Troopers, my 1/24 version is in pieces as I intend to paint it and put the 5 spokes from a 1996 Impala SS on it, it looks cool with the 5 spokes just sitting in place. Don
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Corinthian leather included. hey I haven't turn the wheels on my 1/18 Impala Taxi Cab...I'll check for clicks, and if it does, I will call GM to put up a formal complaint, same with Maisto, and maybe I'll send a letter to Bill Clinton..
  • Does Clinton have an Impala? I guess there is a lot of room in the back seat.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    I am sure he appreciates cars with lots of back seat room, you know for those partying moments..
  • srtoporsrtopor Member Posts: 1
    Hello...

    The dealer "lubed" my ISS today because of the famous clunking in the steering wheel. It has seemed to help but he told me that it most likely will come back. He said that it would have been better to replace the ISS but GM has a TSB out on this and he has to lube the shaft. Should I try to get the ISS replaced? I have a 2000 and the warranty only has 5,000 miles left on it. Any Ideas would be helpful! Thanks!
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    But according to GM, if the ISS is replaced the clunking will comeback as well, so I doubt that would work in your advantage.

    Question....does your dealer know of any case where the "Lube" TSB was applied and the clunking actually came back?

    Do they know the actual cause of the ISS' losing lubrication overtime?

    I doubt it very much...
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