2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • discgolferdiscgolfer Member Posts: 72
    Found it. NHTSA...
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    I GAVE up a week or so ago, and pulled my webpage as well, If my car makes some noises I will take it in at that time (Like anyone would) and get it fixed and leave it at that. I wouldn't Speculate on anything...Good/Bad or Indifferent....BTW I did fix my Console, TEO....You can pull up on the black part just ahead of the Ashtray, It pops upward and that piece and the part where the seams are beside the Shifter are one piece, there is another 2 fasteners that pop up/out under the cup holder, That is all one piece, Also the Cigar lighter is attatched and another thing (wired plug) under the cup holder area...? have no idea what that is...But you can access a few more bolts by lifting up this piece of the console.........The bolts are to the Metal Braces used under the console..... Don
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Thanks for the info on the console. Can you describe how many and the mm size of the screws under the black plastic ring...also how can you pull up this plastic part without the risk of braking it?
  • lrcobralrcobra Member Posts: 82
    I think you are absolutely right on your latest comments to Jeffbog. I have learned a lot from you and others (including Matt) on the problems and what to look for. Although I am having different problems than y'all I sympathize with you. On another note, contacted my service rep about the drivers seat upholstery--they will work on it this Thurs. hopefully order a new seat back. And also I learned that GM measures their rotors to see if they can be turned or replaced even if they have already been done once. I may get my old rotors back on only thinner than before--any suggestions there?
    LRCobra
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Thanks for your comments. What's the final say on your tranny?
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    The clips are the push in type that are NOT easily broken, Just pull upward on the black piece just foward of the ashtray, (You can leave it closed) and you will hear 2 pops,(It's OK they DID NOT break....ha) then you will see how the black and the (Grey in my case)part of the console is one piece (all the way back to and including the cup holder area) The bolts I could see inside appear to be 10mm size, there is a black area around the shifter that is actually part of the shifter, there is also a Black viynl ring that goes around the opening for the shifter on the piece that you can remove. I didn't tighten anything in there, I will check it again in the sunlight instead of in my garage. I still don't know what the wired clip is mounted to the underside of the Cup Holder area????.....Don
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    I tried to look for those screws this weekend myself and wasn't able to find them, I lifted up that rubber mat thing inside the box in front of the ashtray and found that it was smooth, no screws. Now what I'm understanding is that you need to pull it out further? I tightened the two nuts that attach at the front of the console though they didn't turn much and moved all my cd's that I had kept in the jewel cases out and put them in a soft case. It could be the noise I was hearing was the jewel cases...

    On another note, I noticed now three times my tire pressure monitor has gone off after hitting an especially bad pot hole, I have reset each time after checking to see tire pressure was the same. The first time this happened it turned out I did have a screw in the left rear tire that had an almost inperceptable leak, got that fixed but can't find anything else stuck in the tire. Is the force of the tire hitting the pothole mishaping the tire and messing up the monitor? Anyone else having this problem? I know this is not a serious problem per se, but hey, it's all I have...
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    The screws that you need to locate are inside the console box with the armrest lid,not the box in front of the ashtray. You can easily remove the rubber mat in the bottom of the console itself and you'll find those elusive screws....6 of them in total.

    Good Luck!
  • jijcojijco Member Posts: 49
    I agree, there are times when matters posted could be too much, but that is more of an attitude issue and not problem issue address(pertaining to our cars). It may be redundant to some, but to others, they may have just joined the forum, and have no clue of previous posts on our forum. We are among the few that have so many(i.e. #XI, possibly going to #XII soon.) Some may not have the problems, but it may be vital info for others.

    #1097 watusi/#1158 hunter39 tire pressure, monitor, gas... The Chevrolet web site added a tire care section a while back. Haven't gotten around to check it yet. I've found the pressure monitor(in ABS sensors) to be invaluable to detect slow leaks that you may not be aware of between pressure check times, lets you know ahead of time before you are stuck with a flat. My Goodyear tire dealer fixes my flats free on my Goodyear tires. I personally are partial to the brand, even though there are other good "years" on certain brands. You can always upgrade to another model. As far as gas, I had a friend with a Honda Shadow 1100 MC(motorcycle, not Monte Carlo) that said his dealer recommended Texaco gas because it keeps the engine internals cleaner than any other brand.

    #1121 swebco I'm not sure if your ABS is engaging prematurely like teo asked, but if not, the dealers may be right. Remember, the Impala has BIG BRAKES, and may respond stronger than ABS systems on other cars you've had. Fortunately, I haven't had to use them on this car. My previous PD training and years/miles experience may have helped to avoid it, despite the fact that I drive kinda fast, though responsibly.

    #1153 00impala That wired plug under the console may be for the electronic controls of the transmission.

    #1098/1134/1138/1139 toe-I agree with some of the others. You have been among the most valuable contributors to this forum. Keep it up. BTW, who invested/discovered the stereo amp bypass fix. I haven tried it yet, but may do so as a temporary fix for more bass until I put in my amp/speakers/subwoofers I was thinking, if we can get hold of another plug like the one from the amp to clip in, maybe we can bridge the wires on that connector plug to snap in with better integrity, so the wires don't come out. I know www.scosche.com has products for car audio to interface OEM/aftermarket. products. The even have one to hook up the Rockford Fosgate CD changer to the GM stock radio. I'm not sure if it will fit ours. They may have the right connector available for my recommended fix, or for putting in another amp.

    Also, my car is also a 01/00 build date vin#2G1WH55K0Y9255705. I'll keep you informed of development in my car. As far as the engine cradle, I remember first seeing in the C&D article on the police Impala that it had a reinforced engine cradle. I was just thinking about your posts, and the TSB that the "shim" material may be the reinforced part, and that the cradle may be the same for all. It's just that the cradle in the stock impalas w/o the "shim" may develop the flexing, cracks, etc. Maybe that is why some cars are being taken back so fast and new cars given, and the the old cars may just be fixed and recirculated, so as not to cause the media bad rap about the otherwise fine car. Anyone want a new Impala? Could it be that Chevy added the rear bumper insert to denote cars with the cradle fix? LOL Maybe...

    Also, if they can come out with a Monte Carlo SS, why not an Impala SS? The MC doesn't have a V8 or vegetable juice, I mean police package running gear, so why not just make it available on special order with already made SS emblems, police package, grey instead of wood grain inside trim, 140MPH speedo and oil pressure/voltmeter gauges for the MC SS, in addition to the RSA tires and 3.29 gears(and dual exhaust)? JACOB
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Member Posts: 872
    I opted for the base model with the 3.8 engine, because I wanted the durability/reliability of the 3.8 engine, but also wanted a front bench seat to accomodate six on occasion. Mine has every option except leather (I think, including moon roof, engine heater, etc.), and is essentially an LS without the fog lamps, tach, interior air filter, spoiler, and other exterior things (like the chrome 5-blade wheels). Had I not been concerned with trying to seat six on occasion, I would probably have sprung for the LS.
  • tomaso7tomaso7 Member Posts: 91
    A newspaper columnist was writing about how Canadians elect their Members of Parliament [representatives] compared to how the MP's elect the Speaker of the house. Ordinary Canucks get one vote for their MP while the MP's nominate a number of people and keep voting until one wins with 50% plus one MP. This is a very fair system. But the writer says that's not fair to us ordinary Canadians. So what did he compare this to - read on - I will be sending this guy an e-mail or two.

    "So, let's face it, Canadians: we have two-tiered democracy in this country: a Chevy democracy for you and me to choose our MPs, and a Lexus democracy for our MPs to choose their Speaker of the House of Commons. "
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    It seems that nobody has problems today!!!! ;-)
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    My Impala will very soon be a goner.....getting a replacement '01 LS...details to come :-)
  • lrcobralrcobra Member Posts: 82
    The last trip in for the tranny it never made a noise and no trouble codes showed up. So right now I have it on the books and we are taking the attitude that if it ain't broke don't fix it. Other than that the dealership is taking the Impala for a couple days to take care of the front rotors and to rpr or replace the drivers side seat back.
    Thanks for asking
    LRCobra
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    Sorry for taking so long on this update. First the dealer had my car to fix the On-Star issue. Then I didn't have the digital camera...

    I'll work on this tonight and get it posted. I'll also post the fix to my On-Star problem.
  • shaminoshamino Member Posts: 60
    How did you manage to convince GM to get a '01 Impala LS???? I've read on the post of your various problems..but didn't GM spend lots of time fixing the steering etc??
    What color will your new be? Same options? Oh wait...on the '01 LS you have the free onstar!!!
    Tell us the details when you have time to post a message!
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    well, I guess that monitor works better than I figured. Came out from work today and noticed the right rear tire was low, the monitor had gone off on sunday but I couldn't find the nail. I went to Big O and they repaired (I switched out my GoodYear GA's 6k miles ago) my touring tire and set the pressure at 32lbs. all around, reset the monitor and on my way again! Second tire with a nail in two weeks!

    Well Frank I guess I was looking in the wrong place for those screws... I'll check there and tighten them up... looking forward to hearing about your new 01'
  • shaminoshamino Member Posts: 60
    How did you manage to convince GM to get a '01 Impala LS???? I've read on the post of your various problems..but didn't GM spend lots of time fixing the steering etc??
    What color will your new be? Same options? Oh wait...on the '01 LS you have the free onstar!!!
    Tell us the details when you have time to post a message!
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    Updated the page with a squeek fix. Also added my own problem report to the list.


    http://home.hawaii.rr.com/impala/

  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Fantastic! Excellent pics and how-to directions to re-adjust the center console. Really liked it!

    Others:: I'll keep everyone updated on the new car.....;-)
  • sweetpollysweetpolly Member Posts: 99
    Well, my car hesitated upon start-up on my way home this evening. Now what should I do? Take it back to the dealer? Call GM? Both? I sure would hate to give up my car because I've got the medium regal blue color LS and they're not making that color anymore.
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    Iusecad - your link is to the 'Car Talk' site - do you get to hear these two guys (Click and Clack) on Saturdays on NPR? They are sooo coool! I've listened to their program for years and my boys love it too. They have typical New England dry humor - and Boston/Cambridge accent (I talk that way too!).

    If you guys ever get the chance to listen to this program ypu've got to do it - the most entertaining and informative car show you can imagine!

    Ken
  • scotsman93535scotsman93535 Member Posts: 40
    Sweetpolly

    You might want to look at my post # 1112. I have had the same problem for months and have not been able to get it repaired, because no one knows what is causing the problem.

    I have not received one reply to my message. I am at a loss on what to do!

    Ron D
  • jijcojijco Member Posts: 49
    Does anyone have any opinions on my theory from my last post that the engine cradles may all be the same, and that the police versions just have the reinforced shim material described in the TSB fix already installed, as possibly the '01 models have? I think my idea was sparked when teo asked if anyone knew if the '01 models had the shim material already installed. It might very well be, and that the problems with the stock cradles exist because of absence of the added part(s). If this is the case, and it is the viable permanent fix, it would be even easier to retrofit the fix than if the police cradle was a whole new different part, provided you engine cradle isn't already cracked/damaged. If that how it is, we could all push to have it installed, before problems develop, since it is definitely a problem among many of the cars, in addition to the steering shaft part.

    As for the other various problems, do you think it might be a people factor problem? Either due to factory workers being disgruntled and not paying full attention to assembly(i.e., just slapping parts in, etc.), or some being below workable conditions do to personal activities, intake of foreign substances(alcohol, drugs etc.) I not trying to accuse, mar reputation, or point blame, etc. I am just trying to find out why there is this some what widespread QC problem on an otherwise well designed and put together automobile. JACOB
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    It appears to be that new '01 Impala sedans and Montecarlo coupes built after 10/00 already have the extra metal shims added to the engine cradle mounts. The TSB was posted on 10/23/00, so there is reason to believe that cars built after that date have the fix are incorporated into them.

    Is this what the Police package versions have?
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Ok came back from a long chit-chat with my Service Director...I have to make a decision between the following cars (Love these decisions.. ;-):

    * 01 Impala LS Red Carmine/Cloth/Spoiler/1SB

    * 01 Impala LS Sandrift/Cloth/Spoiler/1SB

    * 00 or 01 Bonneville SE Green/Tan cloth (Buckets)/1SB

    Yep, you read that right....a Bonneville (Brand new '00 or '01). Sweet driving car, but the Impala still comes ahead in the bang for the buck dept.....decisions, decisions!

    Basically GM will conduct what they call a "Trade-buyback" which means that they will do a trade MSRP sticker price to MSRP sticker price minus mileage offset (Around $.20 a mile). Not bad at all I must say. If say, I decide to trade in my Impala LS today for any other car on a regular sale, I will lose about $6K to $7K on the spot. With the GM District Manager approved "Trade-buyback" I also get to keep all the incentives I used to purchase our Impala a year ago. Short, sweet and simple!. I came much, much better off than if I had opted to pursue BBB arbitration or Lemon Law.

    The whole process takes about a month to complete because it takes a while to go thru the GM's Business Resource Center, but at the very least the trade buyback has been officially approved.

    So, stay tuned...more to come in the following weeks.
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    You dog you!!

    Going to be in the new ride - gotta love it no matter which car you end up with (I'd have a hard time making that choice too). You can't beat the green Bonnie for overall style as well as reliability in my book but the Impala still offers some nice features that are either glaringly missing (like decent cupholders and driver/passenger climate controls) or just not as good (seats). Resale could be another significant difference if Bonnie is axed and Impala lives on with suspension fixes.

    Talk about tough decisions - best wishes to you buddy!

    I'll be sitting on the edge of my seat to hear the outcome of this one.

    Ken
  • cathy2000cathy2000 Member Posts: 8
    I have had my car in the dealership 4 times for this problem and the can't find the problem. It has hesitated warm or cold, from a slowed or stopped position. I have almost been hit with my children in my car because I pulled out in traffic when my car died. It does not stall and the engine light does not come on. It just won't respond for several seconds. Can some offer advice.
  • duraflexduraflex Member Posts: 358
    I always try simple fixes first.
    I had that problem. It happened a few times early on and never came back.

    The obvious can often be overlooked.

    1-ls your gas cap on tight - at least 4 good clicks after fueling? That can do it.
    I bought a locking cap from GM.

    2-Do you buy your gas from the same station all the time? Try changing stations or brands.

    3-Did you drive on a gravel or dirt road? Did you have your air filter checked/replaced?

    4-Did they check/replace the fuel filter?

    NEVER buy gas at a station while they are refilling the underground tanks at a station from a tanker truck.
    It stirs up the sediment at the bottom and some of it is likely to wind up in your car.

    None of these things will cost you much - maybe one will do the trick. Good Luck!
  • toon01toon01 Member Posts: 18
    that you are being forced to make that awful decision!! I'm glad they are taking good care of you and maybe had I been able to stick it out a while, I might have gotten a chance at a new MCSS. Good luck to you and I will keep reading with interest!
  • dewdrops38dewdrops38 Member Posts: 41
    On the buy back - trade in. What is the monitary loss on your part? estimated? You take a loss on the miles, from your first reported defect?, or from the last used mile?
  • sweetpollysweetpolly Member Posts: 99
    Scotsman,

    I marked your earlier post and went back to read it. My car did/does the same thing. Perhaps, we should contact GM and have them open a file on this problem, so they will become aware of it. If my problem gets worse, I'll take it back to the dealer and call GM on my way to the dealer. The really scary part is when you're entering the freeway and this happens. Makes no sense to pay all the money we paid for the car and not have it run properly.
  • iusecadiusecad Member Posts: 287
    no I don't usually listen to Click & Clack... I always seem to find something to do outside Saturday mornings...
  • shaminoshamino Member Posts: 60
    I don't understand why GM is giving you limited choices??
    The deal should be: You can purchase any Impala or Bonneville from any dealer across the USA!
    Why can't you order one from the factory brand new with the options you want?
    Do you know when these '01 models were produced??

    I hope GM is not just giving you someone elses fixed up lemon!
    The other possibility is that these cars they are offering had some sort of defect at the factory. And they were repaired at the dealer!

    Sorry for being so pestimistic, but when it comes to mega corporations like GM admitting fault, or offering replacement products, I would always be cautious!!
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Dewdrops38::: The only monetary loss in the transaction is the offset for mileage use. Usually they deduct somewhere from $.13 to $.20 per mile (Or the max allowed as per state law). Typically, you take a loss on the miles from your FIRST REPORTED DEFECT. You have to be extremely careful with this as for example, if the dealer put more miles in your car during repairs for test drives, etc, they always try to make you accountable for those miles. Always refer to the actual repair ticket and make sure that the service writer records the mileage correctly in the repair order to avoid later on liability on your part for miles added due to on going repairs if you need to 'Lemon' back the car. Also, the more miles you have in the odometer, the worst the money 'hit'. If you have 25,000 miles at the time of a Lemon buyback and they charge you $.20 per mile, you are looking at paying an offset of about $5000.00!!!! The longer you wait or GM or the BBB clowns make you wait the worse off you are!!! This is a known tactic to make the vehicle owner put more miles on the car and then milk him/her with the mileage offset at buyback time!!! Beware!!!!!

    Shamino::: Thanks for your concern, but in reality I am pretty much free to pick any other vehicle from the GM lineup; however, since I want to minimize my losses and stick to my budget I have selected the cars that better fit our situation. The cars I listed all are brand new and unused so GM is not getting back at me with those vehicles...I picked them out by myself!. I am also considering a '01 Pontiac Grand Prix GT sedan black/Taupe leather....is the cheapest option between the Impala and Bonneville...I shall see. Before I sign on anything, I'll do a VIN check on the new car just in case ;-).

    Toon1::: You'll be happy to know That I am also giving consideration to a new '01 Pontiac Grand Prix GT sedan, but I am more biased towards the Impala and the Bonneville. I have a few more days to decide on any of these cars.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    In rare situations, GM will allow you to actually custom order a new replacement car from the factory. The problem with this is that ordering a custom made car from the factory only introduces yet another element of confusion to an already complicated and stressful process which the buyback is all about.

    My '00 Impala LS was not a custom order, so I have no need to do the same with the replacement car. I am open to most color combinations, so I am better off taking whatever is available in the local lots but without losing sight of my original car purchase budget. I still don't miss the leather seats or the sunroof in the Impala, so if I get a '01 LS it will be configured the same exact way as my current ride....hmmmm maybe I should get the radio/tape only instead of the premium sound...hmmmmm (Hey Dura, that was for you) :-)
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Custom made car means = In the exact color and options that I want and are not readily available at the dealer's lot.
  • jijcojijco Member Posts: 49
    Teo-I'm beginning to think that the police Impala have just that, instead of a different cradle, and that the cracks, problems surfaced on the civilian models because they did not have the reinforced "shim". If that is the case, it would be easier to hop up your cradle(and free, per the TSB) if it isn't already damaged), than having to manage to get a whole new "police" cradle. I am not sure on this one. It just came to my mind from something you said earlier.

    Since my car is paid for, I have the freedom to sell/trade at will. I was originally intending on trading in my LS for the SS when it was available, but now the plan is to either try to upgrade mine with the police parts, plus aftermarket goodies(unless my car goes "citrus"), or special order one a little later with the police package(LS) somehow, and drive this one until then(instead of a Metro).
    Mine is fully loaded Galaxy Silver metallic, the works. I took it, because I did not want to wait for a special order, and the Tahoe Limited I was considering was too big for my needs, and to hungry gas wise. If I got another, it would be dark blue, silver or black, with grey leather. I just don't like any of the other colors for myself, and I think the cloth seats don't do the car justice in the looks, durability and comfort departments. I will not get the sunroof if I get another car.

    Maybe you could get one with just the tape player(w/o the lackluster amp) and swap in the CD, CD/Cassette deck for the best(or at least better) of both worlds. JACOB

    P.S. Best wishes on your choices and decision for the new car. If there is something you want not available to you at this time, I pray for you that it will be. B) ---------O~o
  • swebcoswebco Member Posts: 5
    The ABS only came on when I hit a few patches of black ice. I am going to talk with the service manager about the brakes engaging prematurely and see if that might be the problem. From the posts I can tell that no one else has had the experience of brakes sounding and feeling like going over washboards and that at least I can tell the service manager.
  • dewdrops38dewdrops38 Member Posts: 41
    TEO, oh, ok :-) Do all you can do to make them take the loss, not you.

    .........(unless my car goes "citrus"), .......
    I laughed my a** off when I read that line. I have a "citrus". Laughter is a good med :-)

    I recall a post here, asking about colors you see the most in your area. Here, in my area, southwest Ohio, and in KY and in all my travels, is most always, black and blue.. more navy blue than anything. Six on one lot once. I have a 2000 in Navy Blue and a 2001 in Black. They're both looking good.

    I considered trading my "citrus" Navy Blue months ago, fed up with the crap, take the loss and let it go, to heck with the hassle.. but the monetary loss was just too dang much. Either way, I still enjoy my Impalas.
  • scotsman93535scotsman93535 Member Posts: 40
    Regarding messages 1181 and 1184 Cathy2000 and Sweetpolly

    Cathy2000. - I have done everything that you have suggested plus more. Nothing works.

    The dealer has no idea what is causing the problem, and I am sure that if they did, it would be fixed. Obviously neither Chevrolet home office, nor the dealers in the United States are able to determine the problem because no bulletins have been issued.

    I purchased my car in July 2000. It was a program car and had 6200 miles on it. It now has 10,500 miles. The problem has existed since purchase. If the problem were not so intermittent it would be much easier to find the cause. My car runs along great for a few days and just as I began to trust it, it hesitates and stumbles, just as I am attempting to enter fast moving traffic. This is Very dangerous.

    The car has been in the shop twice. The first time I was told "We cannot duplicate the problem". Nothing was done! The second time the dealer replaced the ignition switch. This did not help.

    I continue to communicate with the service manager and they show concern but so far, nothing. I suggested to the service manager that it is a possibility that one of two things could be causing the problem. 1-A faulty crankcase sensor, or 2-A faulty oxygen sensor.

    The first time that the car was in for service, I suggested that we experiment with the car by replacing suspected parts, one at a time, until the problem could be solved. The answer was "the factory will not allow this type of repair".

    The car goes back to the dealer this Friday. They are going to check the crankcase sensor and oxygen sensor. I would like to think that they would find something defective.

    I am considering trading in the car to get out from under this problem. This will result in my losing quite a bit of money. It will also be a problem for the next owner.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    Did the dealer clean out the injectors? They shouldn't be dirty based on the low mileage, but who knows what kind of gas was put into the car before you got it.


    There is a tool that would be perfect for this kind of problem. It's the AutoTap and you hook it up to the OD II connector in your car and it scans all the sensors and can create a running log while you drive. The BIG disadvantage is the price ($300) and you need a laptop (or your desktop and a couple of miles of serial cable). I have a link to their webpage on my Accessories page.


    Speaking of which, added a few things and a link to 00impala's page. Really cool photos of a dealer equipped SS Impala and a Impala that got rear-ended. Back end of the car is totaled but the passenger compartment looks great.


    http://home.hawaii.rr.com/impala/

  • tomaso7tomaso7 Member Posts: 91
    When my ABS and traction control engage, [2001 Impala LS] there is definitely a clanging effect - I also had this on my 1998 Lumina LTZ. If I hit a speed bump at speed the noise would also be present. I wouldn't worry about the noise. It would appear it's normal for these two Chevys.
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    I love that Navy Blue - my heart always skips a few beats when I see an LS in that color with the tan leather - just like one in our parking lot here. I've started seeing significantly more Impalas of all colors and both models in the last 2 months - not sure why but very noticeable. It must be nice to have two to choose from in the same household! Enjoy

    Ken
  • tpkentpken Member Posts: 1,108
    Teo - You've got an infamous mayor now!

    Heard it on the news last night - he was arrested for throwing a clay pot or vase at his wife's head - the police pressed charges even though the wife refused to.

    Another outstanding example of inappropriate behavior set by an elected public official - certainly sends a clear message of how to resolve family conflict!

    Apologies for being off topic - just couldn't resist.

    Ken
  • larryhartlarryhart Member Posts: 23
    Can someone please provide the link to get a print-out of the shim fix for the Impala cradle problem?? . . . . Thx
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    Workin' Hard? An internal ivestigation by General Motors of a components plant in St Catharines, Ontario, has reportedly fingered an unknown number of worker as using company time and equipment to "surf porn sites on the Internet" (All that's missing is an executive claiming to be suprised) Instead, we have GM spokesman Stew Low: "A number of people were in the possession of pornography, and some of the people were involved in distribution of it." Some employees were suspended. GM won't say what other forms of disciplinary action were taken, although requests for spankings have been rejected outright. Car & Driver 04/01

    Where do they make the Cradles or Steering Shafts ? Someone before thought the employees might be "High" or on Drugs, nahh just away from their work surfing the internet.......Don
  • dmullinsdmullins Member Posts: 30
    Teo, can you explain why GM is replacing your car. I thought all the problems were fixed already.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Dmullins::: Yes GM fixed the car, but unfortunately due to the number of days "out of service" (As per lemon law statues)the car is now considered to be a 'Border line lemon'. My car was 16 days out of service due to the steering shaft problem and 1 day out of service for the A/C compressor problem back in september. The tally amounted to 17 days and according to FLA lemon law, the car enters "Official lemonhood" when it spends 15 Calendar days at the dealer for repairs, at which point the manufacturer needs to be notified in writting. My service manager showed all my repair history records to the factory rep and it was decided in "Good will" to go ahead and replace the car to keep me satisfied with GM and to not lose my business. I told my Service Manager and GM that one more problem with the car and it would go automatically to BBB arbitration. Given the amount of off service days counting against GM, they reasoned that it would be cheaper to replace the car than to drag everyone thru BBB arbitration and eventually lemon Law. My service manager was on 'my side' so things happened quickly and more effciently. Remember that his dealer is about a year old and word of mouth can really hurt him..also GM doesn't want to take back a car to label it a "Lemon"...they can't get rid of it!.

    The key to success here is to have the dealer managers on your side. A good polite but firm attitude is also important to pursue them to do the right thing for you...remember is your money, no one else's....demand better!

    Ken::: I know Miami is again in the headlines and unfortunately is for another embarrasing chapter related to our elected officials. Mayor Joe Carollo (Altough he is Republican) is a total and complete joke...the guy can't even talk right in front of the TV cameras. We are fed up with the circus put up by these clowns at City Hall and what we need is a MAJOR clean-up 'broom' operation to get rid of these corrupt and embarrasing public officials that just give Miami the well deserved label of "Banana Republic". Last I heard his wife will not press charges against him claiming that these are "Private family matters"...go figure! I just feel bad for his children that had to witness such sad chapter of domestic violence. I am telling you..there is no city like Miami!.
    Ken, changing the subject back to cars, do you have front buckets or bench seat in your Bonnie??? I was wondering which combo offers the best comfort...any suggestions?

    Larryhart::: As soon as I get the actual scanned print out of the cradle repair TSB I will post the link right here. For now, if you want to inquiry about it to your dealer, just go ahead and give them the TSB number and date....they should be able to retrieve it for you.
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