2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

platour

Here is the USA site.
http://www.zainobros.com/files/info.htm
Here is where to order in Canada in Canadian dollars.
http://members.home.net/michadam/weborder.htm
I get about 2-3 day delivery from these people via Purolator. Very efficient.

frankf3

I just went out to check on some things in the Impala (no, the personal calling package isn't working yet) and I noticed on the trunk lid that there are 2 bumpers for support when you close the lid. I also noticed that there are 2 additional holes with sort of sheet metal threads that look similar to the holes that mount the two existing bumpers located at the bottom of the trunk lid just under the rear lights. There are no bumpers in these two holes. How many "bumpers" do other members have in their trunk lids?

bh0001

Thanks Platour for filling in the Zaino gap (huge) that I left. I found a Zaino dealer close to home at www.car-fanatic.com. This is the dealer that you get when you use the e-mail address on the Zaino order form ("Canadian orders must contact...").

I appreciate your efforts to save me some work (let the dealer wash the car). However, I specifically asked what prep they do and they said they use a brush to apply a chemical wash to remove the factory applied wax etc. When I said that I don't want any swirls in the paint, he said "I don't think that's possible". As far as I'm concerned that's a BIG red flag. Besides, I really don't mind doing this since it will also give me the perfect opportunity to closely examine the car before taking possession. I guess it's not surprising that the salesguy told me I need to get a life!
Brad

hvan3

When I first saw an Impala on the road, I thought it was a British made vehicle. I don't know why, but i thought it was a British Sterling. I didn't care too much about it because I've always been an import car buyer. (I actually hated the rear lights on the Impala)

Well, 5 months ago, our Mechanical Engineering Manager rented a base Impala with bench seat. We have a production plant in Mexico, so we drove the car to Mexicali, Mexico. I was very impress with the responsiveness, as well as the smoothness and power in the Impala. Since then, I did some research and ended up buying an Impala LS. Our M.E. Manager owns a Lexus ES300. He was also very impress with the Impala. If our M.E. Manager had not rented an Impala, I would not have been an owner of the Impala.

Today, we came back from our Mexico trip. Our supplier rented a 2001 Kia Optima. Let me tell you, this Korean car is awesome!! I really think the Korean cars have greatly improved over the last couple years. The Kia Optima has all the amendities that an Accord or Camry has. I would highly recommend this vehicle to anyone who is interested in a vehicle under $18K!

hoowa

Consumer Report's reliability and safety rankings just came out for 2001. The Impala is about 19% more reliable than average -- which is better than the Legacy, the Taurus and the Passat. That is for the first year, it should jump up substantially next year. It is ranked second for safety among family cars, right after the Passat. CU says it has, "Impressive frontal- and offset-crash results. Secure emergency handling."

theiceman

Shared a ride in one the other day & am very impressed. Verrry nice ride and good interior room. I had seen several on the road previously and hadn't really like the rear light treatment (the rest of the car was okay) but it has since grown on me. In fact, I think it looks downright sharp in the darker colours.

Anyway, just wanted to let you guys know that another* Bonneville owner thinks that you chose well.

* I see that tpken posts here - BTW did you guys wish Ken a happy birthday yesterday?

crosley4

I read in our local fish wrap this morning that consumer reports considers the VW Passat sedan & wagon the best over all car for the money.

They same good handling, roomy , etc. Sedans start @ $22,000usd , wagons @ $26,000.00

Which brings to my mind a question, Will GM build an Impala wagon again ???

teo

Actually I spent a few days up in Washington D.C. for business....nice weather by the way...50 to 60F and clear, cool sunny days!

Saw a handful of Impalas, most of them were LS models painted on either Silver or Black with spoiler (U.S. Secret Service??) and 'Base' models were mostly taxi cabs with the police package upgrades.

Anyway, I missed the forum and I am glad to be back.

TPKEN::: We will be going to Europe next month and for sure we will avoid eating red meat during the trip!!!!!!

Oh, by the way, I recieved on the mail an invitation from GM for their upcoming "GM Autoshow in motion" event, which basically is a test drive event where one can drive ANY NEW GM car that you heart desires on a closed circuit test track environment. The invitation also states that they will also have other cars from the competition to try as well to see how they pair up to the GM offerings. The event is free (I can bring a second guest)and I can spend the whole entire day driving as many cars as I want. They will also have free food and all the GM brand product managers for each car line and engineers will be present to answer questions...I hope the Impala boys are present as I plan to have a good chat with them...

Looking forward to this event, it should be fun and exciting!

jeffreyw1

I could hardly read the posts without not looking at that gorgeous Corvette of yours. I sure wish I could find one in my area that looked that good and was afford able. During the summer in Ontario, what is the highest temperature usually and what month is it usually the hottest? I am curious because I have not ever been that far north. Also, that is a great photo you took of your vette. Thanks for posting it! May all have a great day!

mcdill

Kias.....Please don't go there , A freind of mine works at the kia place in the parts department , And ive seen what comes thru there , Major Problems , brand new vehicles with completely burnt out electrical systems , transmissions left and right , so they really do need those " long haul warrantys " KIA---- Krappy Inexpensive Automobiles . thanks------------mattmcdill

cookie01

My 15 minutes of fame... and still it comes back to haunt me now and again.
I wonder if I'm in the Mexican brochure. Any owners from Mexico on here???

tpken

Too bad you missed The Caped Crusader and Boy Wonder ( you can figure out which is which - they're both awesome!) D.C. is a great city and the power just hums through the arteries and veins like caffeine. Too bad that new presidential limo isn't the stretched Impala LS that we discussed some time ago - bet W would have loved it!

Welcome back - your presence was missed.

Ken

platour

That car is stored from October to May in heated, secure winter storage. What temps do we see? I would say that July is the hottest when we would see a few days at 33-35C (high 80s to 90F). But that does not last more than 2-3 weeks usually. We have a "Humidex" reading that can drive the perceived temp up higher for those with respiratory problems but we certainly do not experience the heat seen in the Southern USA. Frost stays in the ground until late spring. The unofficial planting time for cold-sensitive flowers and vegetables is the third week in May but I wait until the first week in June. I have seen a non-killing frost in late May. The car is a "Export to Canada" unit for 1979 and thus has metric speedo/odometer and no A/C. You can start to imagine why the mileage is low: the frost can return near to Labour Day weekend! FWIW, the value of that car in the condition it is with new interior, paint and low mileage is about 50% of an Impala LS. I bought it 15 years ago and it has long been paid for and it really is a nice Sunday afternoon ride. But with a Rochester 750cfm four-barrel, it does gobble up the 92 octane very quickly (about 10mpg in the city). Here are a few more pics for those who might be interested.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=223638&a=11779932&f=0

teo

With the country flags right next the user name of each poster...may be we should do a survey of how many US residents Vs. Canuck residents we have in here....

Cookie:: Good question!. The Impala is also sold in Mexico and it will be interesting to get owner experiences and feedback from Impala owners south of the border....

I gather that some of them maybe don't speak or read in English so that limits their participation in the forum.

Since there are a couple Spanish speaking posters in the forum, maybe we can try to ask the question in Spanish in hopes of a reply and traslated it back to English......

Hay aqui algun dueno del nuevo Chevrolet Impala que viva en Mexico o en otro pais en latinoamerica???

(Are there any new Chevy Impala owners that reside in Mexico or any other country in Latin America???)

Oh well, let's see if someone replies.

Are there any French Canucks in here as well???

Are there any European Union residents that happen to own a new Chevy Impala???

The 'net never ceases to amaze me...

iusecad

the Kia Optima is a rebadged Hyundai Sonata...

teo

I think is a very nice car, but if you get past the *refined* looks of the XG300, I still would take an Impala over it anyday..

The XG300 retails for about $25K which puts it at the same price bracket of a fully loaded Impala LS. The XG300 is still an unproven and somewhat *rare* car. The current Impala is a much more established model, hence better future reliability can be expected from it.

Still, it is nice to see that Hyundai's models are really catching up and improving every year...what a far cry from the crummy and dubious Hyundai Excel models from the late 1980's.

In my humble opinion I still think most KIAS are crap!

hvan3

As I've said before, I've always been an import car buyer (Honda , Toyota, and Nissan). I never once gave American and Korean cars the time of day. In fact, I always stereotype American cars as crap. Crap! Crap! Crap! I bought an Impala by default because of my GM card rebate points.

Well, as an owner of the Impala, I realized I was close minded about American cars. In fact, I really love my Impala. I can not speak for other American cars, but I truely love this Impala.
I had positive experience on the rental base Impala and the Kia Optima on our test drive to Mexico.

What's the morale of the story? Don't stereotype unless you actually drove one (...and pray to god that nothing will go wrong once you own it).

Just one man's opinion.

platour

I have owned many cars; both imported and domestic. I can't agree that domestic cars were ever crap; behind the times OK. There were some losers such as the Vega but basically they were sound and reliable vehicles. And easy to repair at a reasonable price. I do question, however, styling and marketing. Just one example. People may recall the Chevrolet "Eurosport" line of the 1980s. Hardly so! Bench seats with column shift. Lazy engines. A linear dashboard that makes a joke of the word sport. There was an Oldsmobile with multi-country badges on the fender at one point. The Calais-something. Why was GM trying to emulate European cars? They failed miserably and those well-engineered Japanese imports did not fake it but did it with innovate designs, engines, suspensions, dashboards with tach and the like. Not to mention pretty good quality control. GM lost market for obvious reasons. They have come back and I believe the Impala is a good example. It is tight as a drum, has very good braking systems and as I have stated before, the QC is very good. This is a nicely engineered car despite the hic-up with the engine cradle. I had occasion today to get the brakes HARD and I can tell All that this car bit the pavement straight and true. Creature comforts; I could not ask for more. The driver's seat is just grand. Never had a car that I had to adjust forward to get to the steering wheel! I could go on-and-on but needless to say, this car is a joy. GM has finally got it right. And at a reasonable price which is so important to most of us.

iusecad

XG300 is different from the Sonata/Optima...

this_is_nascar

What's the story with the flags? Seems like just more graphics that need to be downloaded each time.

00impala

You mentioned the Anemic Hyundai's fom the late 80's...that reminds me of the Rodney King Story,(About 10 years ago.. now) I remember during the testimony they said that His Hyundai Excel was going in excess of 95 - 100 mph...they did an independant test and the car had a top speed of around 80 mph. Not quite high speed Chase material! Personally I always thought that they could take all the Hyundai's and Yugo's and pile them back on ships and send them back to where ever they came from in that '86 thru '90- period...A YUGO Convertible? how Sad! Don

mcdill

I have seen the hyundai XG300 YUCK !!! Especially the wheels , they look like they tried to copy cat Rolls Royce , kida like ford did in the 70's with the granada , trying to compare it to a mercedes ,and one of the features were wheel covers trying to make the look like mercedes wheel covers , well it does little more than make them look cheap . My freind that works at the Kia place , his grandmother had a 2000 Kia loaded out , and ive driven it and rode in it , It looks a feels like a cheap version of the corolla , which is what it is !! , oh yeah it was also way under powered . P.S Out of all the GM vehicles my family has ever owned none have ever needed a engine rebuild under 200,000 miles . thanks-----------------mattmcdill

jijco

Just FYI, the first Hyundai Sonatas were a available with their top of the line stereo, which was a real Alpine AM/FM/CASSETTE(different faceplate), essentially similar to the 7385, which I have in my '84 Buick GN, the last top of the line Cassette deck before adding the CD Changer controls. To my memory, it also had a 160 watt Alpine amplifier, not obscure brand/quality doorstops lie ours, and if I remember, 12(real math, not GM) Polk Audio separates speakers! And over 10 years ago, just at the time CDs were just starting to be used in car audio. The deck was pretty much comparable to the Nakamichi as to tape heads and features, etc. I still have it, though my GN is not running right now. And what do we get in a $25K+ car for our sound? A space age radio with poor reception, cheap "upgraded, premium" speakers, "doorstop"distortion booster/power minimizer and oddball wiring/connectors, with odd size front speaker selection, no high mounted front tweeters like most, even CHEAP cars, and poor sound insulation! Throw in the odd math for counting the speakers and you get what we got for paying $$$!
Sorry for venting, I think a lot of us have good enough ears to know the deal, even those that are "casual" music lovers, and not audiophiles or musician, cound tech types. C'mon, GM, all the others major car manufacturers incorporate quality aftermarket components in their factory systems, at least as options(i.e. JBL, Infinity, Nakamichi, Alpine, etc.). And the Impala is Chevy's flagship sedan! JACOB

scotsman93535

This is a new update to my continuing engine hesitation/stumbling problem.

Three days ago I spoke personally to the service manager. I told him that I wanted to pursue a trade-buyback on the 2000 Impala. He told me what was required of me. I then called GM directly and told them my desire and they assigned a case number. I then called the Better Business Bureau and they assigned their case number.

Today the GM worker assigned to the case called me for more information. He said that when he had all of the information needed, GM would make me an offer.

When I first spoke with the service manager, he suggested that I leave the car with them once again. He felt that this would show good faith on my part if the GM caseworker asked about the car.

I left the car with the dealer three days ago and they connected a computer to the car that could be manually switched to different test modes while driving. One technician was assigned to the car and drove it home at night. This added nearly 400 miles to the car in three days.

According to the service advisor, a hesitation occurred while they were driving it. The computer showed that the oxygen sensor had an intermittent fluctuation. The sensor was indicating that the fuel mixture was to rich and it caused the fuel to be cut off and this in turn caused the hesitation problem. The sensor was replaced. I asked why the cars computer never detected this fault during the several prior tests. The answer was that it was a very minor fluctuation and the cars computer did not detect it.

The car has been returned to me. I am not sure what this will do to my request for a trade-buyback. I guess I will just wait and see.

mcdill

GM should have put the 500 watt Monsoon stereo out of the Camaro into the Impala . thanks-------------mattmcdill

night_owl1

I am hoping that will fix your problem, but it's a bit irritating that it was only AFTER you initiated action to replace the car. Did you get a rental out of them at least? Did you know ahead of time that someone else would be driving your car? I would be pretty peeved if I left my car for repair and found out they drove 400 miles. They better have filled it up at least. =P

scotsman93535

The dealer did not supply a loan car. I was told that I could rent a car at my expense and they would reimburse me if and when they found and repaired the problem. I did not need a rental so I rejected this.

They may have put some gas in the car. The gauge is at 1/2 tank, just about the same as when I left it.

teo

Your dealer's refusal to provide you with a *no cost to you* rental car is considered to be a breach of warranty. If you have gone over your car's warranty booklet, it specifies that whenever the car needs to stay overnight at the dealer for warranty related repairs (Such as your engine hesitation problems) the dealer must provide you with a free loaner or a rental vehicle for a maximum of $30 per day. My dealer gave me a Chevy Metro for which I didn't pay a penny and this was while my car was waiting for the replacement intermediate shaft. Then my question is.....since your car has a much more serious condition, why your dealer refuses to honor the rental car warranty clause??

I am sorry, but I think you are either dealing with a very *sleazy* dealer or a very *dishonest* Service Manager.

If this is the case, I will suggest for you to light a fire under their collective *butts*....tell them that if either the engine hesitates one more time after replacing the oxygen sensor or if the problems can not be solved to your entire and complete satisfaction (not the dealer's) then you are ready to contact your attorney and file for legal action against them until you get a satisfactory resolution.

The dealer is obviously trying to buy time (and putting an absurd amount of mileage in the process) by changing parts here and there, meanwhile, you are running out of time/mileage to seek relief under your state's Lemon Law or to obstruct further action in part of GM to take responsability for their defective product.

The facts in your case are clear as water...force the service manager to get a hold of the GM District Manager representative and don't hesitate to request meeting with him personally at the dealer's service dept.

You have taken the first step to get GM to trade-buyback the car by getting a case number. Now work on organizing all your service and repair records as you will need to have an established paper trail should you need to take them to court.

Don't give up..its your money and your hard work (Not to mention safety), not theirs.

A 2001 Impala LS should be the goal for your replacement car.

Good luck.

teo

The rental car benefit is provided *regardless* whether they find a problem or not with the car...and the truth is that your car is defective, so even if the dealer can't locate the source or origin of the defects they are OBLIGATED to pay for the $30 per day rental car.

Don't allow them to make you dance at their own pace.

teo

Are there any 2001 Impala Base or LS owners with sunroof equipped cars?? Have you had any problems with the headliner trim around the sunroof opening????

I know that 2000 Impala owners with sunroof fitted cars have had headliner problems around the sunroof opening...I was wondering if the 2001's exhibited the same annoyances???

lrcobra

Got the new rear fender well liners replaced on the LS on Wednesday. Really makes a difference. The mudflaps went back on with a little coaxing and a quick hand with the screwdriver. If anyone knows of any other (free) TSB's let me know. Actually the dealer said that if there is anything else out there that he doesn't know about he would like to know himself.
LRCobra

blckthree

My 2001 LS, built 10/00 has the drooping headliner problem. The adhesive holding up the velcro strips in the front did not hold. As soon as the weather warms above 70, I will attempt to reattach it with adhesive. There is a 3M adhesive, who's name escapes me, that is suppose to do a pretty good job of reattaching the strips.

Aside from that, 6200 miles on the LS and no other trouble. The mileage has improved slightly, could be warmer weather that did that, or could be getting more broke in, probably a combination. Average of about 25-26 for interstate driving during rush hour. The DIC on my car is not accurate for mpg or gallons used, but it is not something that I am wanting the dealer to look at, at least it works, and who knows what could happen if they work on it!

teo

Thanks for your response regarding the headliner around the sunroof opening. Yesterday I was also offered a new 2001 Impala LS, Build 2/01 (Galaxy Silver/Gray Cloth/1SB/Spoiler/Premium Sound/Sunroof) and I wanted to inquiry about the headliner/sunroof problems to current owners. While I like the Silver color, I am not too crazy about the gray interior, but I figured that the sunroof might compensate for the *darkness* of the color scheme. I will go to the dealer shortly to check out this car anyway.

The only other possibility is a 2001 Impala LS, Built 12/00 Sandrift/neutral Leather/1SB/Spoiler. I much prefer this color, but I am also so-so about getting leather seats.

Basically, these are my only choices at this point. It has been nearly impossible to get a car configured the same exact way as my 2000 Impala LS (1SB/Spoiler/Premium Sound/Cloth interior)so I have to compromise by either going with the leather interior car or bite the bullet and get the gray cloth seats with the sunroof.

There are only 2 dealers in the Dade/Broward county area that have '01 Impala LS configured the same exact way I want them; however, dealers don't want to trade the cars with my dealer as they claim they will automatically lose the *holdback* factory sponsorship for these vehicles. No one can't force them to give up their cars and lose legitimate profit in the process, so I have no choice but to get what my dealer (Dadeland Chevrolet) has in its lot. The main advantage of getting a new Impala from my dealer's stock is that they have the *freshest* cars according to build date VIN breakpoints in the entire city.

Oh well, I'll let everyone know what my final choice will be, but I am sure I'll be equally happy either way.

Any toughts on leather seats on hot climates or the headliner problem with the sunroof equipped cars??

Thanks everyone!

tpken

Teo - In your climate and with the car sitting outside during your work days you really ought to stay with cloth or you'll be " sticking " to leather! lol

I've had leather on a few cars here in New England and even in our relatively mild summers your back perspires when you settle into that warm seat. Some people cover their seat to avoid this - but the cloth is just so much simpler ( and cheaper ) Of course you will miss out on that wonderful aroma of rich leather when you open the door though.

Ken

cookie01

Teo, I really enjoy my sunroof... first I've ever had. As you know I live in Oregon, so I actually don't open it that much, heheheheh.... When I do, it's noisy. So I usually open it on sunny warm days when I'm driving around town, stop and go... Anything above about 35 mph and it gets pretty loud. I've found I can minimise the noise by cracking open either or both of the back windows. It does NOT help to open the front windows. Odd...

Basically what the sunroof REALLY provides it a very nice extra window. Oregon can be grey and dark, having the extra light pour through the top is very nice. I hardly EVER close the cover to keep the light out. Also, my headliner droops just a very little bit. Has from day one... but had not gotten any worse. I bet some good attesive is all it would need.

And I can tell you from LOTS of rain experience and 15,000 miles, no leaks.

cookie01

I love the look and smell of leather. My aunt and uncle's Blazer has leather seats.. I find I "slip" on them a lot. You get in.. sit down, and go to adjust your sitting, or pick up something off the floor, or just turn around to look behind you and you "slip."...

It's odd.

My rear stays put on the cloth seats.

teo

Yes what you say is absolutely true. I have only owned one car with leather seats and the experience (As far as the heat problem is concerned) wasn't that bad but again the rate at which the driver's seat started to deteriorate was very dissapointing...cracking, folding and moderate peeling.

I love the cloth seats of the Impala. The fabric indeed is *top quality* and it helds pretty well with no signs of wear and tear.

My only hold up with the silver Impala LS is the interior color *prison cell gray* which I sort of despise right now but I am open to it since I can get it with the Sunroof (yet another problem with the headliner)but what I really like about this car is that it was built just a few weeks ago..

Happy B-day Ken, by the way! ;-)

teo

Yes that's another good point. On leather seats you tend to *slide* more than in cars with cloth seats. Cloth seems to hold everyone aboard better and the Impala cloth doesn't have Lint/static problems like other cars.

But yeah, the smell of leather simply can't be replaced!.

tpken

I appreciate your good wishes. Going to stop by Barnes and Noble Book store to get a new CD for my road trip on Sunday.

teo

Well, I make my decision as to which car to get today..I'll keep everyone posted.

lbbirky

Hey all! I haven't been around for a LONG time (since the Impala V forum) so I thought I'd check back in and see what was happening. Things have completely changed around here! I like the look of the message board now... when did that happen? I still recognize a few of the names around her (Teo, Cookie00), but most of you are new to me. My wife and I have been proud owners of a black 2000 LS (leather/premium sound/no sunroof) since 12/21/99, and we still have no regrets. Anyway, just wanted to say "Hey!", and hope you all have a great St. Patty's Day!!

teo

2000 posts!!!! Let's make it today..

teo

Ok, I have finally picked our new car.....a brand new 2001 Impala LS (built 12/00) Sandrift/Neutral Leather/1SB/Spoiler/Premium Stereo.

Very happy about our choice....checked out the Silver LS..very nice but couldn't bring ourselves up to the gray interior.

Well, Let's see how it goes with the leather and this hot oven weather....

I'll be taking actual delivery in about a week pending paper work from GM in Detroit.

Can't wait! ;-)

cookie01

You know what would be WAY COOLER ??? Flags for our individual states! That would be so fun. I can see that little beaver on a blue background right now.

Let's ask..

teo

But also your favorite Football team!

shamino

On my '00 LS Impala, the interior trim around the sunroof was loose. I took it to the dealer, and they fixed it within 15 minutes. Basically they used more double sided tape on the liner so it won't drop down.

Part #: Strip 146400
Str-Fstn 146400

tpken

Wouldn't it be nice to have an emblem for whatever your main ride happens to be? My Bonneville just uses the standard Pontiac emblem but you guys and gals could have that cool Impala insignia.

Be easy to spot the ToyHonMazNisLexus guys!
(Spell checker going to love that word!)

Teo - congrats on that classy ride! I drove that exact car at my favorite Chev dealer and absolutely loved it. If I had bought Impala - might easily have chosen that one. Best of luck with it, buddy!

Ken

nosirrahg

As the owner of a Galaxy Silver 2000 Impala with sunroof, let me just say that this is the nicest "prison cell" I've ever spent any time in! ;-)

Seriously, color is more or less a personal choice, primarily based on (generally bad) experiences. My last car was maroon, and I swore I'd never have another (shows every bit of dirt, inside or out). My car before that was a greenish gray color (mid-80's Buick), and it hardly ever looked dirty. With two kids to haul around, I went with the neutral gray interior because it wouldn't show dirt very well (I think my other option for the Galaxy Silver was the dark navy blue interior, which I felt would show dirt pretty quickly).

Granted, there is somewhat of an "appliance" feel to the all silver/gray car, but at least I keep my eyes on the road instead of admiring my interior while cruising around!

sweetpolly

Teo,

I'm glad you didn't pick the silver with the gray cloth seats. Gray is depressing, especially on a gray day! I think you made a wise choice with the leather seats. I have them on my LS and I love them. Sometimes, on hot days they're really hot, however, it doesn't take long for them to cool off. You'll really appreciate them when someone spills a drink! My granddaughter did the first week, all over the back seat. Boy, was I glad I did not go with the cloth!! Can I assume you also got the "heated" feature? You'll appreciate that on a cold day. And, not only for cold days, but if you have a backache, try turning your heated seat on. It does wonders for your back. I discovered this yesterday.

00impala

Prison Cell? I'd have to say the 4 tone grey is Better looking than the 4 tone Beige interior, Mostly with the Carpeted logo Floor mats and Leather, Teo....Ask if you can keep your rear bumper off of your 2000 so you don't have to drive around with that "Prison Cell Colored License plate Area" that throws off the look of the rear of the car.. still say that Chevrolet put that x-tra Plastic there on the 2001 to take your eyes off of the Taillights, (Look at any 2001 an what is the first thing that catches your eye from the rear?) Why else? It certainly does not Improve the look of function of the car. How can the Cloth Seat Material be "High" Quality? I remember it looking like Factory Remnants pressed together, My father in law has a '99 Lumina and those seats are scary looking, they look worn out just by the colors used (Burgundy/Red/Black/grey all smeared together) and the car is barely used....On the Sunroof headliner, I just let mine drop down a bit in the front of the opening, It was that way on delivery and if you push it back up to the piont where it sticks to the velcro, it then has a "bow" in it, if it is down a bit it is level and sraight across, it is a non issue for me because I like it down in the position that it is in....DW