The Jensen Interceptor, like the Jensen-healey, is an unloved and relatively unknown car in the marketplace at large, for a number of reasons, including the badge name, which few people know, the fact that parts might be difficult to get, the poor build quality of the early cars, and the horrendous fuel mileage of 7.2 liter Chrysler V-8.
On the plus side, it's a lot of car for the money, a hybrid of American power and European styling and handling. It's a big honker of a car, but handles better than it looks, and can cruise in comfort as befits a true GT car. Probably the least attractive of the driving features are the brakes, which aren't up to the power of this hurtling beast...(about 3,700 lbs for a convertible).
Specs are 0-60 in 6.4 seconds (for the later Series III cars), top speed 140 mph if you dare.
Prices for a very nice convertible, grade 2 car, in the U.S. would be $17K-20K.
As a rough guide, you could figure $5000 to 7300 for a Monza convertible. Add 10% if it has A/C, 15% for the 140 hp engine.
If it's a Corsa, $6300 to 8400.
Mileage and condition ar going to be critical. What you call really good shape, somebody else might call "restorable".
Are you looking for one or selling one?
There is a handy periodical that you can find at any large bookstore called 'Collector Car & Truck Marketing Guide', published by VMR, which also has a web site. That's where I got the above figures.
78 Nova Custom 2dr/coupe 47k miles 305 Automatic Metallic Blue Original Paint, in close to excellent condition, two spots of rust behind rear wheels. Black top in excellent condition been garaged most of its life.
I am fairly naive about this process, but I have a '75 BMW 2002 in fairly good condition. This is the first winter it's seen so there is little rust on the body -- rebuilt engine with about 45K. I bought it on a whim, always having liked them, but practicality is now grabbing hold and I need a traveling car. Any idea on what it's worth? I'm being offered a bath on trade in --but what I have found thus far is a range from $900 to $9000.
Sorry, folks, I've been on vacation, so haven't gotten to your posts....
Let's see, I'd pretty much agree with C13 on the Corvair convertible 1966 although it would have to be a stunning car to pull $8K...I think $5-6K for a very nice car, and deduct from there for any work needed...a classic case of a rare car (only 3142 made in 1966) not bringing big money due to demand being met by supply.
For the later Skylark Convertibles here's another interest case of a rather rare car (only 4,954 made in 1970) not bringing as much as say athe 1970 Mustang convertible of which around 7,500 were made--again, supply and demand is the factor here...a very nice daily driver with a few minor defects should sell for around $6K...so deduct for body damage, missing parts, etc.
The 1975 BMW 2002 is not as valuable as the earlier ones, due to a)drop in power due to emissions and b) unattractive crash-resistant bumpers....so there is really no substantial interest by collectors for this car...as opposed say to the 2002tii, the Baur convertible, or the turbo version of the car, any of which are in fact sought by enthusiasts---for a daily driver 1975 2002 with a few problems, figure $3,000 as a pretty fair price.
The 1978 Nova 2 dr, although a pretty good car, has no real collector value, so it is be valued as just a used car...I'd guess any good old car with low miles should bring $2,500.
And last but certainly not least, a restored 1941 Chevy pickup is a collectible vehicle...depends what you mean by "restored", though...if you mean a show-winner, that's one thing, but if you mean a very, very nice amateur restoration (nothing wrong with that!)around $7K should buy one...given that building a show-level truck would cost you $20K, it's not unreasonable that you could get $15K for a stunning restoration of a vehicle like this.
I'm sorry, although I trust your quote I want to think differently. Only 23,953 Nova Custom 2-door's were produced for that year, and it has no collectors value?
If it currently doesn't have collectors value, out of curiousity how long until it does?
Well, given the reaction of the market so far, fredly, it would seem that a '78 Nova will never have real collector value, no, because...again, there is no demand for a sedan-type car of the 70s with no special equipment and that is not an open car. These types of cars were built as normal transportation vehicles and thus have no great interest to folks looking for "special" vehicles, i.e., muscle cars, open cars, sports cars. They will probably end up like the Model A Fords are now...you can still buy a nice driver for $6,000, even 70 years after it was made...so use and enjoy the car now is my advice, don't hoard it in a garage and presume it will increase in value...but of course, I know you like it so take good care of it.
To have real collector value, a car must have been rather special when it was first made. This is not to discredit the car as a car. It's just the way the market operates. My own cars are not collector cars either, because a 1988 Alfa Romeo and Alfa 164 sedan are a) common, b)too new and c)not much sought after by Alfa lovers, who prefer the earlier Spyders and coupes of the 60s...so you see how it works, or how it works IMO I mean.
1969 BMW 2002...better value than a 1975, but again, only the "special" 2002s are attracting serious collector interest right now...the 2002tii...however, a nice daily driver should bring $3,500-4,000. You have to remember they made a ton of these cars, so they are common. Fun little car, though, worth fixing up if you don't go overboard.
What information do you have on Mazda RX-7s. I have a 1987 RX-7, not exactly in the best condition but it got me through 12 years. It has 100,100 miles on it.
You mean as a collectible car or as a car in general?
I like 'em a lot, but they aren't worth anything as collectibles...maybe way down the road, and then only the special models of the RX-7 have a prayer of attaining collectibility...the convertibles and the lovely turbo coupe.
Re: 1971 BMW 2800 CS. My parents bought this car new in '71, brought it with them to Europe when we moved there in '72 (where the speedometer was changed from miles to km), then brought it back over here in '75. The car has been sitting for the past 8 years (not driven). It has 71,000 km on it. Leather interior, 4-speed, no air or sunroof. One rust spot on top of front left fender -- this was a problem spot for this model. The right fender had the same problem years ago bu was repaired. So -- IYHO -- what's it worth? Thanks.
Hmmm...maybe $5K as it sits....running well, $6,500....rust fixed and painted $8,500, fully restored top to bottom to a nice street standard, $12.5K, trophy winning most magnificent 2800 ever seen on the face of the earth $15K.
Mr. Shiftright, Thanks for assesment. Just so I know from whence you come ... how are you qualified to do these "what's it worth" estimates? I'm also going to look in Hemmings.
People pay me money to know this...that is, study auction and private party sales and dealer transactions. If one does this kind of thing long enough, certain market trends become more and more obvious.
Hemmings is okay, but these are *asking* prices, many of which are never realised, so if you go there you will get a somewhat inflated impression of value.
Collectible car values are very much dependent on condition, and without seeing these cars I am only giving an educated guess of the most general nature. If you need true market value, you need to consult an appraiser that actually comes and looks at the car, photographs it, writes it up, and provides comparable cars for sale as well as price guide reports and auction results. This is one of the things I do for a living, so I get to look at more BMW coupes than say the average civilian.
One reason I picked $5,000 is that a friend of mine has one that sounds like yours, but is running and driveable and still respectable looking. He has been asking $6,500 with no takers for some time now.
I have a 1968 mustang GT automatic. It is egg shell blue with a C sripe. It is restored back to orginal condition. I would like to know about how much it is worth.
On cars like these, i'd need to know lots more, like a/c, if it's an HP "A" or HP "K", body type, 6 or 8 cylinder, dlx interior, and if restoration is to street standard or trophy winning standard (if trophy winning, establishing value simply not possible without seeing the car), 4 spd or auto, VIN # would be good to know as well (to check for authenticity)....
I'm looking for a quote on a car that I can't find in your quick directory. Don't laugh. Make: Datson Model: 4dr B210 Year: 1978 If you need anymore info let me know.
I'm not laughing, but my expertise is in classics & collectible, so I'm not quite up to that speed on the used car market---but I will look this up for you in a used car guide....here's from NADA...
Looks like $900 fair to good, $1,500 quite snappy condition and $1900 for a car like-new.
Mr Shiftright How about this one. 1974 Camaro. 350/2bl, at, ps, tilt wheel, rear spoiler, stock wheels, original spare, lime yellow with black interior. No dents or rust. Stock and original. 113000 miles. Drivers seat has a couple of tears and dash pad is curling up otherwise its in very good shape.
A '74 Camaro with no special equipment in a decent daily driver condition is probably a $3,500-4,000 car.
RE: "Famous Owners"--my experience has been that the owner has to be really significantly famous to drive the price of a car up much beyond its regular market value. There's a big difference between Winston Churchill's car and Mike Tyson's, or the Beatles' Rolls Royce and Jodi Foster's Pontiac Station Wagon.
Basically, unless the famous owner is truly historically significant and has exhibited a major influence on popular culture, I don't feel the increase in value is very much, no. This isn't to say someone wouldn't pay extra for Jodi Foster's staion wagon, but I seriously doubt that the value of the car will hold for very long. One station wagon pretty much looks like another, whereas Elvis' Cadillac has probably been individualized in his "style".
The 280SL's value would vary greatly upon the follwoing details and can't be accurately evaluated without them.
Condition auto or 4-speed manual trans two tops? color? Euro model or US model? mileage?
The 280 CE is not a collectible car and you can find those values in any regular used car book that handles that year...I would suggest the online source:
I have a 71 Cutlass 2 dr. sedan. It has 57K original miles on the rocket V8. I had it reupholstered, new vinyl top, tires, and paint. Starts and runs great. AC- Auto- stero- brakes- manual windows. Any price ideas for selling?
A really nice /73 Vette coupe sounds like a car in the $10,000 range, plus or minus depending on condition and options. You'd need to check comparables in newspapers and on the Internet for a better idea of the going rate. I'm just guessing, not having seen your car.
The Vettes were starting to get heavier and slower at this time, and they made a lot of them between 73-77--so they aren't really the "collectible' Vettes. But they can certainly find buyers if you price them reasonably, as they make decent drivers....the only exception to the 'non-collectible' label might...MIGHT...be the LS4 454 engine (CW prefix, letter Z in VIN engine code, 5th digit), as would the M21 close ratio gearbox...
Best way to sell it would be in the Autotrader Magazine, which appears at all 7-11 stores...I believe they have a sports car edition. Ads are not very expensive and they come out and take your car's picture. Second best way would be an an in a large metropolitan newspaper. These two publications offer you a lot of readers per advertising dollar. I don't think special collector car magazines or pennysaver type publications would work for this car. And it never hurts to put a sign in the window on a well-traveled street near your house (but keep an eye on the car, okay?)
1972 OLDS As for the Olds, being a sedan means it does not have much collectible value, so your buyers will be few and far between unless you offer this car at a reasonable price in order to move it. But the miles are nice, so that's a plus. You could start at $4,000, which I personally think is optimistic, but you can always go down whereas you can't go up! If you were offered $2,500-3,000 in real money, I'd certainly consider taking it if I were you, but of course that's your choice!
Okay, sellfore...the 4-speed manual is a plus, that's good....you didn't mention condition, which is extremely important...why don't you look at Topic 5 of this conference (just click on "Return to Topic List" button)...and let me know what condition you think it is....on 280SLs the condition can vary the price enormously.
Sorry, forgot to mention condition....the car was restored to factory specs about 4-5 years ago. There is one rust spot on the hardtop and the engine needs some work, the head has a crack, the speedometer has not functioned for a few years and we are hoping to have that done as well. Paint and interior are good. Hope that fills in the blanks.
I've got a '67 Austin Healey Mk III 3000 with everything in running order. It was revived this past year after spending about 25 years in my father's garage. I had a local shop that specializes in Healeys replace/rebuild hoses, tires, brakes, carbs, and other miscellaneous stuff to make it roadworthy. The shop guy says this car is a good example of an unrestored Healey that is mechanically very good (now). The body is fair with some rust (not alot), but it is original paint. The working odometer shows about 19,000 miles (may have been turned over, but I don't think so). What should I ask for this car?
PS: Both these cars just mentioned, the Mercedes 280SL and the A-H BJ8 are certainly collectible and very worthy of restoration. They are both the "last of their types" and as such the most valuable of their family. These are two examples of fairly modern cars that will one day be worth a considerable amount of money, and are even today appreciating in value. These are the kinds of cars that people should be preserving. Even if you "lose" money initially restoring these cars, you or the future buyer will make it up soon enough (within reason...don't spend $50K!)
I recently acquired a nice straight '73 2002 Tii. It is supposed to have a factory new (not rebuilt) engine which was installed under a dealer program in the 1980's. Is there any way to determine the manufacture date of the engine or trace it back thru the VIN?
If you posted the VIN and engine # I could try and locate some info for you. However, as long as the engine is the correct type and you still have the mechanical injection system in place, if the engine # isn't a 1974 that shouldn't hurt value on this car. Some cars' values are more sensitive to matching numbers than others.
Looking for price range of a 6 cylinder 66 mustang convertible, black with red interior, new metal, original interior, my best judgement is "good condition", they are asking 7,500, any comments. The top is in excellent condition, do not know age of top or engine.
The Mustang sounds a bit high perhaps, since the 6 cylinder engine is a big deduct from the V-8 prices...but if the car were really, really nice, $7,500 wouldn't be out of line on the top end, even $8,500 for exceptional cars....V-8 show cars are hitting $15K now, but of course it would take more than $15K to make a $15K car, so....
The 1968 Caddy Limo isn't generating much interest for collectors due to body configuration, size, etc. and the late 60s styling, so figure $3,000-4,000 for a very nice car, with not much chance of appreciation....fun ride to the beach, though...a white whale of a car, so choose carefully and pay a low price.
The only limos that really have value in collectible cars are ones with special one-off coachwork, or those used by famous people perhaps (but more famous than, say, Kenny G....you know, like Presidents and dictators and such...)
About $11K to $15K would be retail pricing for a very nice #2 car. A #2 is a car in better condition than a 'daily driver'. Topic 5 of this conference helps you determine which "number" your car might be.
Looking for a estimated value of a '71 Plymoth Satelite, body and paint in A+ condition, needs new engine. Also where can I locate a new or rebuilt engine for this car
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On the plus side, it's a lot of car for the money, a hybrid of American power and European styling and handling. It's a big honker of a car, but handles better than it looks, and can cruise in comfort as befits a true GT car. Probably the least attractive of the driving features are the brakes, which aren't up to the power of this hurtling beast...(about 3,700 lbs for a convertible).
Specs are 0-60 in 6.4 seconds (for the later Series III cars), top speed 140 mph if you dare.
Prices for a very nice convertible, grade 2 car, in the U.S. would be $17K-20K.
Thanks, Sandy
Thanks, Sandy
As a rough guide, you could figure $5000 to 7300 for a Monza convertible. Add 10% if it has A/C, 15% for the 140 hp engine.
If it's a Corsa, $6300 to 8400.
Mileage and condition ar going to be critical. What you call really good shape, somebody else might call "restorable".
Are you looking for one or selling one?
There is a handy periodical that you can find at any large bookstore called 'Collector Car & Truck Marketing Guide', published by VMR, which also has a web site. That's where I got the above figures.
47k miles
305 Automatic
Metallic Blue Original Paint, in close to excellent
condition, two spots of rust behind rear wheels.
Black top in excellent condition
been garaged most of its life.
Interior:
Bench, clean. stock stereo removed. Roof liner
sags. otherwise excellent condition
So anyone have a guess?
Thanks
F-
There's a periodical called 'Collector Car & Truck Marketing Guide', available at your local large book store.
Without knowing a lot more details about its condition, mileage, etc, all I can do is say that it probably falls somewhere between $3K and $6K.
Let's see, I'd pretty much agree with C13 on the Corvair convertible 1966 although it would have to be a stunning car to pull $8K...I think $5-6K for a very nice car, and deduct from there for any work needed...a classic case of a rare car (only 3142 made in 1966) not bringing big money due to demand being met by supply.
For the later Skylark Convertibles here's another interest case of a rather rare car (only 4,954 made in 1970) not bringing as much as say athe 1970 Mustang convertible of which around 7,500 were made--again, supply and demand is the factor here...a very nice daily driver with a few minor defects should sell for around $6K...so deduct for body damage, missing parts, etc.
The 1975 BMW 2002 is not as valuable as the earlier ones, due to a)drop in power due to emissions and b) unattractive crash-resistant bumpers....so there is really no substantial interest by collectors for this car...as opposed say to the 2002tii, the Baur convertible, or the turbo version of the car, any of which are in fact sought by enthusiasts---for a daily driver 1975 2002 with a few problems, figure $3,000 as a pretty fair price.
The 1978 Nova 2 dr, although a pretty good car, has no real collector value, so it is be valued as just a used car...I'd guess any good old car with low miles should bring $2,500.
And last but certainly not least, a restored 1941 Chevy pickup is a collectible vehicle...depends what you mean by "restored", though...if you mean a show-winner, that's one thing, but if you mean a very, very nice amateur restoration (nothing wrong with that!)around $7K should buy one...given that building a show-level truck would cost you $20K, it's not unreasonable that you could get $15K for a stunning restoration of a vehicle like this.
best,
Your Host
I want to think differently.
Only 23,953 Nova Custom 2-door's were produced
for that year, and it has no collectors value?
If it currently doesn't have collectors
value, out of curiousity how long until it does?
Thanks
F-
To have real collector value, a car must have been rather special when it was first made. This is not to discredit the car as a car. It's just the way the market operates. My own cars are not collector cars either, because a 1988 Alfa Romeo and Alfa 164 sedan are a) common, b)too new and c)not much sought after by Alfa lovers, who prefer the earlier Spyders and coupes of the 60s...so you see how it works, or how it works IMO I mean.
1969 BMW 2002...better value than a 1975, but again, only the "special" 2002s are attracting serious collector interest right now...the 2002tii...however, a nice daily driver should bring $3,500-4,000. You have to remember they made a ton of these cars, so they are common. Fun little car, though, worth fixing up if you don't go overboard.
I like 'em a lot, but they aren't worth anything as collectibles...maybe way down the road, and then only the special models of the RX-7 have a prayer of attaining collectibility...the convertibles and the lovely turbo coupe.
on it. Leather interior, 4-speed, no air or sunroof. One rust spot on top of front left fender -- this was a problem spot for this model.
The right fender had the same problem years ago bu was repaired. So -- IYHO -- what's it worth?
Thanks.
If you were the buyer would you try to get it to start first? How does a buyer know if it has compression?
I guess if it looked as though it had been properly stored instead of just parked, it might allay my fears a little.
I'm also going to look in Hemmings.
Hemmings is okay, but these are *asking* prices, many of which are never realised, so if you go there you will get a somewhat inflated impression of value.
Collectible car values are very much dependent on condition, and without seeing these cars I am only giving an educated guess of the most general nature. If you need true market value, you need to consult an appraiser that actually comes and looks at the car, photographs it, writes it up, and provides comparable cars for sale as well as price guide reports and auction results. This is one of the things I do for a living, so I get to look at more BMW coupes than say the average civilian.
One reason I picked $5,000 is that a friend of mine has one that sounds like yours, but is running and driveable and still respectable looking. He has been asking $6,500 with no takers for some time now.
On cars like these, i'd need to know lots more, like a/c, if it's an HP "A" or HP "K", body type, 6 or 8 cylinder, dlx interior, and if restoration is to street standard or trophy winning standard (if trophy winning, establishing value simply not possible without seeing the car), 4 spd or auto, VIN # would be good to know as well (to check for authenticity)....
Your host
Make: Datson
Model: 4dr B210
Year: 1978
If you need anymore info let me know.
Looks like $900 fair to good, $1,500 quite snappy condition and $1900 for a car like-new.
Hope that helps,
Your Host
How about this one. 1974 Camaro. 350/2bl, at, ps, tilt wheel, rear spoiler, stock wheels, original spare, lime yellow with black interior. No dents or rust. Stock and original. 113000 miles. Drivers seat has a couple of tears and dash pad is curling up otherwise its in very good shape.
Thanks
Gary L
A '74 Camaro with no special equipment in a decent daily driver condition is probably a $3,500-4,000 car.
RE: "Famous Owners"--my experience has been that the owner has to be really significantly famous to drive the price of a car up much beyond its regular market value. There's a big difference between Winston Churchill's car and Mike Tyson's, or the Beatles' Rolls Royce and Jodi Foster's Pontiac Station Wagon.
Basically, unless the famous owner is truly historically significant and has exhibited a major influence on popular culture, I don't feel the increase in value is very much, no. This isn't to say someone wouldn't pay extra for Jodi Foster's staion wagon, but I seriously doubt that the value of the car will hold for very long. One station wagon pretty much looks like another, whereas Elvis' Cadillac has probably been individualized in his "style".
The 280SL's value would vary greatly upon the follwoing details and can't be accurately evaluated without them.
Condition
auto or 4-speed manual trans
two tops?
color?
Euro model or US model?
mileage?
The 280 CE is not a collectible car and you can find those values in any regular used car book that handles that year...I would suggest the online source:
www.kbb.com
Be sure to follow the instructions regarding mileage and condition and equipment.
best,
Your host
The Vettes were starting to get heavier and slower at this time, and they made a lot of them between 73-77--so they aren't really the "collectible' Vettes. But they can certainly find buyers if you price them reasonably, as they make decent drivers....the only exception to the 'non-collectible' label might...MIGHT...be the LS4 454 engine (CW prefix, letter Z in VIN engine code, 5th digit), as would the M21 close ratio gearbox...
Best way to sell it would be in the Autotrader Magazine, which appears at all 7-11 stores...I believe they have a sports car edition. Ads are not very expensive and they come out and take your car's picture. Second best way would be an an in a large metropolitan newspaper. These two publications offer you a lot of readers per advertising dollar. I don't think special collector car magazines or pennysaver type publications would work for this car. And it never hurts to put a sign in the window on a well-traveled street near your house (but keep an eye on the car, okay?)
1972 OLDS
As for the Olds, being a sedan means it does not have much collectible value, so your buyers will be few and far between unless you offer this car at a reasonable price in order to move it. But the miles are nice, so that's a plus. You could start at $4,000, which I personally think is optimistic, but you can always go down whereas you can't go up! If you were offered $2,500-3,000 in real money, I'd certainly consider taking it if I were you, but of course that's your choice!
good luck to you both,
Your Host
Sorry, forgot to mention condition....the car was restored to factory specs about 4-5 years ago. There is one rust spot on the hardtop and the engine needs some work, the head has a crack, the speedometer has not functioned for a few years and we are hoping to have that done as well. Paint and interior are good. Hope that fills in the blanks.
The Mustang sounds a bit high perhaps, since the 6 cylinder engine is a big deduct from the V-8 prices...but if the car were really, really nice, $7,500 wouldn't be out of line on the top end, even $8,500 for exceptional cars....V-8 show cars are hitting $15K now, but of course it would take more than $15K to make a $15K car, so....
The 1968 Caddy Limo isn't generating much interest for collectors due to body configuration, size, etc. and the late 60s styling, so figure $3,000-4,000 for a very nice car, with not much chance of appreciation....fun ride to the beach, though...a white whale of a car, so choose carefully and pay a low price.
The only limos that really have value in collectible cars are ones with special one-off coachwork, or those used by famous people perhaps (but more famous than, say, Kenny G....you know, like Presidents and dictators and such...)
About $11K to $15K would be retail pricing for a very nice #2 car. A #2 is a car in better condition than a 'daily driver'. Topic 5 of this conference helps you determine which "number" your car might be.