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In sum, not a fancy ride, yet, still turns heads. What is it's approxiamte worth in todays market?
Thanks much.
REgarding the '71 Buick, I think there's always a market for an early 70s convertible, although not as much as 60s cars; nonetheless, I'd think anywhere from $5K-7K would be the active selling market, depending on a) how sharp it looks at first sight to the buyer and b) if they don't mind the high miles (which can be offset somewhat by records of reconditioning to major components).
good luck selling it,
Shiftright
Dear CR3---Corvettes that have been heavily modified can only be valued by testing the market by advertising...most buyers want authentic cars and those that don't aren't going to pay high prices but want a driver to have fun with (99% of the public has no idea what is authentic or not anyway). So what I'm saying is that modified cars have no book value, an appraiser needs to examine each car individually and make an assessment. Certainly it has value.
427/435 hp cars arent' all that rare relatively speaking, with something like 2700 coupes and convertibles in 1969, but I'm sure someone would be interested in the car.
Here' the Golden Rule with 50s & 60s Vettes:
Documentation is nearly everything in determining value.
I'd say start with top dollar for a nice stock '69 (around $30-35K) and deduct accordingly for the modifications. And I'd expect a healthy deduct if you really want to sell.
Good luck with it!
Shiftright
I know these cars can run up a lot of miles if maintained, and would of course have it checked out, but what is the reasonable range for one of these assuming it is reasonably clean (and I wouldn't want a fixer-upper).
They are asking $12,500 for it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
You must mean a 1981, right?
Yeah, those are good cars, and the price is if anything suspiciously low unless it's got something going on with it (probably). A very clean driver should cost about $16,000.
I'm not a real fan of targas, because they leak and make noise, but if you can live with that, fine. I would myself prefer a sunroof version of the car you're thinking of.
Also, you must have a very thorough mechanical inspection performed, especially given the lowball price.
I had heard that they were susceptible to leaks, but assuming it didn't have any problems already from water, it wouldn't see rain very often.
The price did seem reasonable. Don't think it is a scam since it is sitting out front of the local Jaguar/Saab dealer.
I'll have to take a drive tomorrow, since the closest I have come to driving a 911 is a 1960 VW Beetle.
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What you have to find out is if this is some cobbled up car or the real thing. A good Porsche shop will know. Maybe it's a great deal, worth checking out.
If you drove a 60 VW, you'll feel at home in some ways in this car!
Asking $7,000/b.o. Wonder if it is one of the 928s that bent in two?
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Be afraid, be very afraid. For openers, $1,700-2,000 for a clutch job, and it's downhill from there. I had a chance to buy a very nice one for $6,000, and a good friend owns a Porsche shop, and the car passed inspection, and I passed anyway. The car's reputation (for early ones) is just too clouded to ignore.
Anyway, for the Pontiac Lemans convertible-- a nice-looking driver is running around $7,500, and this would be for a pretty darn clean and correct car, but not a show car...so you can deduct from there for whatever is modified, missing, worn or rusted on yours (cost to correct).
hope that helps.
Your Host
thank you
and loaded with all options from that year. Car
has been garaged since birth and has 51k original miles. I have it rated (from topic 5) as a 3-. Anyone with ideas on worth and where I might sell??
Well, you might ask $2,995 for it and see what happens. There's usually a 400 or 500 premium for the V-8, which is included in the 2995 asking price. I'd just sell it as a good used car, as it really doesn't have any major collectible status. It would have a better chance of selling in the regular used car column of a large metro paper, I would think. If it didn't sell at that price, I think any offer over $2,000 would be fair enough in today's market. Good luck!
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The 280E is the "stripper" model, if I may use that term online, and so it is not worth as much as the better-equipeed 280SE...but you could ask $4,995, which is over book price, (presuming it is really "mint") and if someone offered you around $4K, I'd take it with no regrets. I've seen higher asking prices for mint cars, but then it becomes a question of how long you want to be doing this.
good luck,
joe
Thanks,
Chris
If you're curious, I'd say a non-running tail-fin MB 4-door like that isn't worth very much at all, so if your tax bracket justifies it, you'd be better off donating than selling. It would be a hard sell for anything more than you paid for it.
I used to have a '63 model, 4-speed, sunroof, a/c, very nice shape, and it was a good sturdy car, so maybe it will find a good home with a handy type of new owner who doesn't have to pay Hans to fix it.
Thanks again... P.s. Is there anywhere to find prices for older cars on the web?
Chris
http://www.vmrintl.com/
The problem with old car price guides in general is that they aren't clear enough on a few very important points--namely, that the condition of the vehicle is *extremely* important regarding value; that the equipment on the vehicle can also greatly affect overall worth; and lastly, that asking prices do not constitute reliable basis for assuming real value.
So you can have two cars, same model, same year, and one can be worth ten times the other, but the price guide doesn't differentiate between the two.
e.g., #1 show condition '65 Mustang convertible with 4 speed, V-8 & A/C and #4 condition Mustang coupe, six cylinder, auto, non-Ford color, bad repaint, Grand Auto chrome wheels and rear end jacked up. Some books will just say "1965 Mustang Convertible--$15,000"
You see the problem?
All modified older cars sell on their own merit, and there is no price guide for them. Your market for this car is more toward the street-rod people than the collectors. So in your case you need to pick a number, hang it on the car and "test" the market for modded old Plymouths, You'll know if you're too high because people will walk away without making offers or if you're too low because the first person who sees it will buy it.
This is about the best I can do for you...modded old cars are a whole other ball game and we'd need to shop "comparables", that is, cars modded just like yours, and this will take some research.
good luck with it!
Shiftright
WE'd need to know:
Model (Ambassador, lafayette?)
body type (2 door, 4 door, convertible?)
condition (rated 1 through 5--see topic 5)
without this info, no accurate or even approximate value is possible.
Host
let's say the 1940 Nash is a 4-door Ambassador in the best possible shape...excellent condition. (is that a 1?) Can you tell me what it might go for?
A #1 car would be a show car that is never driven, but rather trailered around, so probably you are talking about a #2 car, so something like $7,500 if it were really great...somewhere around there, give or take $1,000.
its in nearly perfect condition
Unless older American cars are either a) muscle cars or b) open cars, their ability to keep rising in value beyond a certain point is limited.
So if you keep it, it's a one-of-a-kind, member of the family. If you sell it, it's going to be seen as an almost-vintage, almost original, almost authentic Beetle, where even an authentic, vintage, original Beetle is still only a Beetle.
If you love it, I'd keep loving it and being happy. If you want to liquidate it for cash, don't expect much.
I say again, that's a guess.
How do I find out what this car is worth? The seller is looking to get $5500
Thankyou. Erik
Worse yet, is the term "restored"! Some people think that a set of seat covers and an Earl Scheib paint job "restores" a car!
I called the guy and since he was 100 miles away, REALLY quizzed him on the condition. Finally, he said that on a scale of one to ten, he would give the Volvo a 8.5 and that was conservative in his words.
100 miles later, I pulled up to his house and spotted a POS rust bucket of a PV 544 in his driveway. I HONESTLY (based on his glowing description) thought it was another Volvo he owned!
Anyway, he spotted me outside and greeted me. I asked him if the PV 544 was in his garage.
"Why no, it's right here!"
Well, I was really ticked and he knew it.
I started to bite my tongue but then he got upset and asked me " What do you expect? It's 35 years old and only 3500.00"
I let him know that his car was a parts car only. It was a zero on a scale of one to ten.
I also suggested that when he gets another call on it to simply say " It's a total P.O.S.!!"
The real irony here is that I really think he thought he had a show car.... He have may reconsidered this after meeting me!
You are right Shifty, I would never buy a car over the internet sight unseen!
I really like those cars, by the way, a very fun, rugged automobile. I'm often tempted to go find one.
When I'm trying to figure out a car's condition on the phone, I always ask the owner whether it's a 1-foot car, a 5-foot car or a 10-foot car....(how far away you are before you can't see any defects)....sounds like his was about a one kilometer car!
This Volvo was neither. It was a bondo beauty, the "nice" interior was garbage.
These are slick little cars that have a near bulletproof engine. I really don't like today's Volvos, but these were special.
The B18 engine is bullet-proof...amazing engine...about all you need worry about is the fiber timing gear.
It's funny to look back now and realize that a PV 544 was close to the same price as a VW beetle.
A lot more car for the money! Sadly, 1966 was the final year.
327 Sb V-8 with CA A.I.R. system.
All original, Heads, 2-bbl Carter, exhaust manifold.
Also the Powerglide tranny
You dispense some great advice and opinions and I'd appreciate some. I'm not interested in selling
just value curious. I'm the original owner of a '69 Mach 1 Mustang with the 351 Windsor engine and gears. Its burgundy, black Ditzler painted hood, gold side and trunk stripes and hood pins.
This is an unrestored original with 24,000 original miles. Engine, trans rear and other mechanicals have never been out of the car. It has been garaged and covered since new and driven April thru November; then garaged. Its had QQ historic plates for 4 years. I maintain classic car insurance from Condon & Skelly, full coverage
for $110.00 per year. The car has never been in an accident and never been trailered. Its had 1 brake job and a second set of tires. I stored the original wide ovals and exhaust pipes , plug wires
and hoses. I did reuse the original clamps and the original heater hoses are still on. This is a blast to drive as it realy turns heads. I use McGuire products. The paint and interior are in
spectacular shape considering its 30 years old. I was always careful when washing to always go with the stripes never against them.
Ford made a lot of your model and this large number (something like 113,000) has kept value down somewhat, but the originality of your car would certainly peg it at the top or beyond of any price guide. Most price guides are for 9 point cars, which are very very nice but not show cars or pristine originals. The exception might be Old Car Price Guide, which can get rather silly regarding values.
In another way, having such an original car is a two-edged sword. The more you enjoy it by using it, the less it's worth. I wouldn't be a good person to own such an original, because I'd be using it and dinging it up over time.
The chrome is decent considering the age. I stored it in the '80s then put it back on the road about 1987. This is when I replaced the original exhaust tires and brakes. I've probably averaged 500-600 miles per year since then. Its on the second starter and master cylinder. Three months ago a bearing went in the water pump. I sprayed the new one Corporate Blue but the rest is
faded blue now. I may start a new topic about the
old nationwide Mustang clubs that Ford sponsored,
but I dont know how many will remember. I was very active in them, wrote a newsletter,and put on many rallyes.
I think I've talked myself into selling my baby (a red 70 Cougar convertible). I bought him in 1979 and have taken him to Hawai`i and back (twice) and CA and VA (I'm in the Navy). However, since I work in beautifu downtown SE DC, I had to get a more (100%) reliable car and now I'm moving back to Hawai`i and can't take both cars. It's like getting rid of a lifelong pet--you still love it dearly but you can't take care of any more and you want a loving home for it
thx/happy holidays
I am the original owner of a 1987 Shelby Lancer in good condition. It's serial number is 21, and has approx. 70k miles. Since only 800 were made, I don't see many for sale. How much do you think it's worth? It has the cloth interior and 5 speed.
Thanks.
Anyway, figure $ 1,750 to 3,000 for a really nice one, but with not much chance of further appreciation. In this case, the rarity does not mean greater value, since there is no great level demand for the car (in other words, the supply is enough for the demand). However, any clean older car with some urgency under the hood will always attract a bit of interest.