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Good luck! We love our wondervan (after 1500 miles).
think the demand will go down so I will just wait.
Anyone else think the same way? I am sure most
people lost money on stock market this year...
I'm in San Francisco bay area and tried to call
the Merced Honda. They ask for MSRP $2000 deposit
(refundable) and the waiting time is 6-8 months...
Any one know other option in N California?
and he told SS and GG... Does anyone know if
Honda makes equal number of each color or there
is some distribution? What is the color that is
easiest to get? hardest?
Oh and judyp2 ("Judy Phillips" according to her/his profile) says in #481 above, "I am picking mine up this weekend" referring to "her" Odyssey and then in #503 says "I'm a salesman at a Honda Dealership in Cleveland." Hmmmmm....
Sooooooo, either
1. Judy's husband is the Dennis she touts as a great salesman,
OR
2. Judy is Dennis,
OR
3. Judy feels she will be taken more seriously if she pretends to be a car salesman.
I think number 2 the most likely. Unfortunately that is a sad commentary on Honda dealerships if her/his other statement in #503 is true, "I work for one of the most HONEST dealerships anywhere!"
Often people reveal far more than they intend. Thanks for the heads up and excellent critical reading skills, elinva.
Thanks,
PG
Odyssey will open July or August, 2001(just several months away). The number of Odysseies and their engines that Honda can supply will double by that time(240,000 per year, now is 120,000 per year and about 10,000 per month). The economy is slowing down. The stock market is much lower although hasn't bottomed yet. Paticently wait for several months. Early next year the price will finally be down.
As I already have my Ody, it doesn't matter to me. I just hope the best for the rest of you who are waiting. IMHO, MSRP was reasonable for the van based on my research.
just like what happens in Canada. Think about twice of the Ody will be sold on the market and less customers...
We have a 2K1 EX and about 1300 miles on it now, the noise is loud. I have a '89 GMC 2500 Truck and my truck has a lot less noise then the Honda.
But, the Honda is nice....I will keep an eye on posts and watch for your results of some kind of fix for this.
Thanks
Dick
(folks: are you getting your Odyssey soon, then go to this page and download/print the checkout list for your Odyssey) http://www.1netweb.com/checklist.htm
Everything is negotiable until you drive it off the lot.
If you can't get them to move on price, try to get some options thrown in.
Be ready and able to walk. You would be amazed how effective walking out the door can be.
Good luck!!
And YES the dealer should lock in a selling price.
The MSRP will NOT change.
I sell Hondas and to me it sounds like the salesman is trying to sell the car to the highest bidder. Get the price in writting, signed by the Sales Manager, and an estimated time of arrival.
I'm not sure if I would trust a salesman who lied about floormats, or had such poor product knowledge. I sell Hondas!!!!
As Mike stated, price is negotiable, get a purchase order from dealer based on the price that you and dealer come to terms with.
My opinion on this dealer, he is playing games and will continue to play games, using your emotions on the love a new car. (I'd walk, and I would also ask to speak the GM and let him know about this salesperson trying to charge for something that comes with the van)
Thanks.
1)Autowest Honda in the Roseville Automall-$4995 mark-up above MSRP,pretty stuck on their prices!
they have 2 vans in stock-no wonder!
2)Carmichael Honda in Citrus Heights-$1500 mark-up,the vans are ordered by VIN#,about a 3-4 week waiting list.price is firm.even know sales mgr.
3)Elk Grove Honda in Elk Grove,just south of Sac.-$1500 mark-up,price appears firm,no vans in stock
4)Mel Rapton Honda in Sacramento-sell at MSRP,need to be put on waiting list.they're saying it's a 4-6 mo.waiting list(no deposit req'd) though many cases less time,depending on color.
5)University Honda in Davis-MSRP!-need to call them back,looks like a pretty fair waiting list.
6)Shingle Springs Honda,east of sacramento about 20 mi.-never go there!i called yesterday,was quoted MSRP and any options if we like,when i got there,they wouldn't budge below $31000!what a joke.they'll lie just to get ya in and then slam the door in your face.they have a beige EX,though will probably be there a while as it "has"to be sold w/$2995 leather and a few other things.none of the options are even installed on the vehicle.
7)Stockton Honda-south of sacramento a bit-1k above MSRP,which includes mudflaps(whoopie!)
8)Winter Honda in Pittsburgh,CA.(north bay area)-
1k over MSRP,appears firm.none in stock,sales mgr said their eta for another EX in the 18th
still looking..............
The van was in inventory (in the showroom) for 3 days
WITHOUT a buyer before I showed up on December 7, 2000.
I know this because I telephoned the dealership on Dec 4
and was told the details of this van, but then I delayed
3 days before finally going over to take a look and buy.
To me, this indicates that there is increasing inventory
and availability and subsequently, lower prices, at least
in the MidWest.
I also visited Lisle Honda (Chicagoland) and for $500
non-refundable deposit (you must sign an agreement and give
a credit card number, check, or cash) they would have
put me on a waiting list for delivery before Jan 31 2001.
They offered me $500 trade in for my awful, rusted, bare-bones
1990 VW Jetta GL with 115,000 miles. The VW needs a entire
new exhaust system, axle, and CV Boot for a total of $900 worth
of required repairs (I had the VW assessed by 3 auto repair shops
before going to the Honda dealer). The "value" of the VW is
$1500 according to Kelly Blue Book, BUT that is BEFORE you
subtract the $900 of needed repairs. I believe that $500-$700 would
be a CORRECT and FAIR price for the VW. This Honda dealer's
price was MSRP (about $24,800) which includes the
$440 Destination charge, roof-rack, cross-bars, and mud flaps.
Thru this website, I know the options are cheaper if you can convience
a dealership to either REMOVE them, or lower the price, or buy them yourself
through other parts dealerships. If you can avoid it, you should
not pay MSRP for minor, easy-to-add options. This dealership chased
me for 2 days to get me to finalize my order, indicating they they
may need some buyers!
At Airway Honda Chicagoland, I spoke with another customer who was there
to pick up her 2001 LX. She eye-balled my paperwork on the salesman's
desk, and then I asked her later what she had paid for her van.
She told me that she also paid the exact same price (MSRP) for
the same options (roof rack, cross bars, and mud-flaps ONLY).
At Airway Honda, for a mesa beige 2001 Odyssey LX, I paid and
took immediate delivery with this deal:
Selling Price: $24,851 (Includes $440 Dest, RoofRack,
CrossBars, Mudflaps)
Trade In: -1,120 (for a 1990 VW Jetta, 115,000 miles
which has real value of $500).
Doc 47
State Sales Tax 1,664
County Tax 15
License & Title 143
TOTAL 25,600
Here is the win-win for me and the dealership. I got a new 2001 Ody LX
with immediate delivery for which I will claim I paid about $600 LESS than
sticker price, by virtue of the dealership paying me TOO MUCH for
my old junker VW. The dealership gets to claim that they sold the car
for MSRP. The moral of the story is that currently that many Honda Dealers
will feel un-willing to budge on MSRP for these high-demand Odysseys.
It may be difficult to get them to negotiate much on MSRP. If you know
a lot about the value of your trade-in, you may be able to negotiate
a virtual price-reduction on an Ody, BY getting a good price for a trade-in.
My financing deal is 7.31 percent 48 months through Bank of America
via the website http://www.lendingtree.com
Cheers !
ody dealers in chicagoland? Any good deals from other dealers?
Tell us how do you feel about the van.
Enjoy your rides!
Drew/aling
Edmunds.com Townhall host
i agree about shingle springs...what a joke! the guy tells me that they don't sell to non-locals at anything less than $$$ above msrp..."wouldn't be fair to all the local folk"...yeah, right!!!!!
mel rapton always says it'll take that long. in late july, they said it would be til december or january for me but i got the call in september. my friend got his in two weeks but he didn't care about trim level or color.
Thanks
One of the other posts here was from a Honda sales person. She said "everything is negotiable except the vehicle itself... we sell those at MSRP." Two comments: eventually supply will increase so that even the vehicles are regularly sold below MSRP. But the dealers will have to be "persuaded" by hard-negotiating consumers for that to happen. If even ONE Odyssey is on the lot and is not sold yet, the consumer is in the power-position, not the dealership. At Airway Honda Imports in Chicago, where I bought mine 2 days ago, there were 2 unsold Ody's on the lot. I attempted (without success) to get them to reduce the price below MSRP. I DID get them to over-pay me on my trade-in. My current advice: know exactly what your trade-in's true value is. And then try to get 80 to 110 percent of that from the dealer.
Both parties save face: the dealer sells at MSRP... but not really! And the buyer gets a new Ody.
We're going skiing in Wisconson with the new Ody in just a few weeks. Can't wait!
Does anybody know what the story is on the Holdback?
didn't take test dirve before signing papers and
while driving home noticed few problems:
1. Steering is making clicking sound while turning
at very low speed(< 20mph)
2. There is rumbling sound in the rear every time
I come to a stop for 2-3 times(Gas Sloshing???)
I'd called my salesman immed. but it was about 9pm
and he asked me to bring it on Monday(12/11). I
promptly did that but after wasting few hours they
gave it back to me with a note "Vehicle is driving
as expected at this time" eventhough salesman and
mechanic both verbally agreed there is abnormal
noise.
Can anyone help how to solve these peoblems?
What options do I have as I still owe some money
to dealer though I've signed credit papers?
Is it worth compalining to Honda or under Lemon
law?
dissapperance of Oldsmobil, I think the days
we pay MSRP & up are numbered...
Our credit card also gives us miles, and I think we have good credit, but putting a $25000+? car on a CC? Whoa!
What hotel did you stay in? Did you get to see much of Eugene?
Enjoy!