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Looking at a few dealer websites, I see a lot of Touring models in White and Silver, I haven't found one in Red yet. (I figure they must, since the 2009 model on Honda's web site is a Touring Red)
My wife currently drives a 2002 Ford Explorer and we just had our second child, she doesn't really want a "soccer mom" mobile, however she has driven it now and agrees that it makes a lot more sense to have a minivan.
She does NOT want a white or silver van, she wants blue or red (and a power liftgate, hence the Touring model).
We live closest to David McDavid in Frisco, been in once to test drive, seem nice enough, but don't really know much about them or Honda in general (always been a Ford and Chevy family, never owned a foreign car before). We did drive the Town and Country, but liked the Odyssey better...
Anyone have anything nice or not nice to say about that dealership? Anyone buy a Touring recently in Texas and want to share what the price was? My understanding is that we aim for dealer invoice, less $2K, less 2% dealer holdback.
Thanks for any input or advice you may have...
Tomorrow 9/2 is the last day for the current market supports and special financing, but I have to go to school so won't be able to spend more time on this. Nevertheless I have created a y group so people with same interest can join, discuss freely and possibly make a group buy in the future? Here you go: groups.yahoo.com/group/odysseyhunters/ good luck!
This includes $880 (3%) Virginia Tax, $670 for destination, $100 for processing, $94 for tags, and $260 for cross bars on the roof rack.
Sport Honda in Silver Spring, MD gave me the same deal, but didn't have the Silver my wife wanted.
I started by emailing 15 dealers, and only 3 (including Herson and Sport) responded with the detailed price and color options I requested. I hammered out the whole detail via email on Fri and picked up the car on Sat. Couldn't have been easier.
2009 EXL's have a power liftgate.
ACtually, I'd aim for invoice, less $2500 (the full incentive), less 3% (the full holdback 2%+1% which looks like a holdback but isn't a holdback) as worst case. A few hundred more would be better. Odys seem to be going for at a few hundred less than this figure as dealers try to move them out. So, you have some room to play with.
The new incentives come out tomorrow. So, check those out to see if you should go and negotiate for even more money off.
And FYI, the Ody doesn't come in a regular red, it's dark shade of red.
After reaching the Irving dealer the sales person started behaving very rudely and didn't agree to match the 28K, went to Frisco dealer and initially I was hesitant that it might be a bait and switch as they never agreed to put 28K in writing.
They were very nice to deal with, and honored the deal, break down:
EX-L (slate green) + Pro pack + env pack + TTL = 28,300 (I didn't want the extras but was too tired to fight for 300 bucks, and knew it was a good deal)
I also paid $800 for 6 yr. 80K miles wty which I will cancel and probably buy online or not at all.
We wanted the white color but when we test drove it, it somehow didn't feel right, the noise level was high and ride was bumpy, then test drove Ocean mist which was very good but had 200 miles on it the Slate green was almost as good as the Ocean mist but with 17mi, I don't care for the color but simply went with what my wife liked.
- They filled the gas only 70% despite the fact that I asked the sales guy to fill full, and he said he will top it off, not sure if it was by mistake or deliberate, didn't push as going home was higher priority after 10 hours of van shopping.
- They quoted $1400 for after market RES and $1700 for Honda RES, one of their guys does it on the side and gave me a number to call, will look at other like car-toys, any suggestions?
- They mentioned that they have sold few 2009 models and are going to get few more, the brochures etc. were for 2009.
There are two '08 blues - one light (Ocean Mist) and one dark (Baltic).
I went with financing. this was the best deal i could get when i checked with all major east/south bayarea dealers. you should be able to get better than what i paid in the coming weeks.
Love my van so far. out of the gate am getting 19/gal in city/hway driving. the van drives like a car, very easy to maneuver.
Raj
i am looking forward same as what you got in atl..
congratulaton for good deal!
In any case, it turns out the red isn't an option for the touring model in 08, just 09.
I drove home a 08 EX-L NAV RES tonight in Dark Cherry Pearl to have my wife drive tomorrow, if she really wants the power liftgate, we'll have to wait for the 09 model in a few weeks.
I probably need to go drive the touring model side by side, to figure out if the upgrade is worth it. My wife won't care, but it'll bug me.
Also, one other question, the EX-L doesn't have auto-headlights (drove home after dark) that I can find, did Honda really build a $34K van without auto-headlights, or am I missing the obvious?
With invoice at $33,089, does this mean I should pay about $29,514? (less $2,500 and 3% holdback)
Also, they have EPP, PROTECTION PACKAGE, STRIPS, etc added on, it is a lot of money and I'm assuming it is all dealer profit. Should that stuff just be removed? Or is there a fair amount of money to pay for that stuff?
As a side note, I used the nav to get home, the voice feature works very well, now I want one for my truck.
Thanks for all the input and advice, this forum is great!
The EXL has auto off headlights. The touring has auto-on and off.
And you're correct, those accessory packages are dealer profit/fluff. From the posts here, it looks like you can negotiate all or most of that away. If our exl comes with pinstripes, I'll be pulling them off as soon as I get the car home.
Your price estimate is correct and you can push for less and see what happens. Make sure to look up the "donkey punch" in this forum and follow its suggestions before you step foot into a dealership. It will save much time and stress.
In DFW area, many dealers hand paint it, I wouldn't want to remove that.
When do these incentives expire?
Well, my wife wants the power tailgate no matter what, so the touring it is. We could wait for the 09 models, but then the price will be higher.
Shame, because the red one is much nicer looking... Just not $3,500 nicer...
The downside is that the Frisco dealer only has a new white one with PAX tires on it...
Will it matter in terms of driving it? In other words, do the PAX tires ride any difference to the non-PAX tires? I do understand that replacements cost more, but that isn't the end of the world to me. I'd go drive that one, but it is in their show room and they'll have to pull it out.
Dealer cash went to $3500.00 (an additional $1000.00) or just $1000.00 and the low-rate APR option (down $500.00). There is no longer low money factor lease option.
I'm coming a bit late into the game....can someone please clarify:
Is this $3500 off of MSRP or Invoice?
Does the $3500 off only apply to Cash Purchase?
Is the $1000 off only on Financing option?
thanks!
Got a lease quote for an EX $23,595 plus tax 8.25% and D&H no money down 36mos./12k yr OTD for $375 month. MF I was quoted the other day is .00163. Haven't gotten the full breakdown yet.
EX-L is 26,590 plus tax and D&H no money down is OTD $435 month.
Dealer states that regardless of whether I lease or purchase, the selling prices are the same. Going to see if I can get the full breakdown and work on it a bit.
Kind of sick over missing the Nissan Quest Deal yesterday with $10500 off the sticker, but I just couldn't justify it as I hadn't even driven that van and they didn't have one on the lot. The additional incentive from Nissan ended yesterday, so I'm back here now.
By the way, I feel you on the Quest, I saw the great deals for a couple of weeks, but none of the dealers would be straight with me. I then finally figured out what was up last Friday, and the Nissan dealers became very open after I said the magic words. Unfortunately, there were almost zero cars that I was interested in in Northern California.
Is this $3500 off of MSRP or Invoice?
Does the $3500 off only apply to Cash Purchase?
Is the $1000 off only on Financing option?
3500 off of the dealer's cost (which is invoice), but dealers can pass it on or not, as they see fit. Because of the slow market, they are passing it on and then some.
So, you take the 3500, knock off the 3% of MSRP (without destination) for the holdback and that looks like the most that folks are paying. So, you should end up with the actual dealer's cost. Most dealers look like they are digging deeper to move inventory.
To give you an idea, the carsdirect.com in my part of the country for an exl is 25,081. Compare that to the published invoice and you'll see that the discounts are there for the taking.
Also, $3500 is for a cash purchase or if you finance (through the dealer or on your own) through a 3rd party company (ie: someone other than Honda). Instead, you can get $1000 off if you take honda's low rate financing.
Yeah, the Quest thing I'm a little sick over but I just couldn't justify a deal without driving one. As of Tuesday, there were only 7 Quests in the state. The guy was willing to travel to get one, but I had to commit. If I didn't happen to be at home with my three kids that day I might have scrambled to go drive one, but no dice.
The one thing that is different is that there are quite a few of 2008s still on the lots here, but I can't imagine Honda is going to dig any deeper to get rid of them unless the dealer just wants them off the lot. Now I just need to justify the extra $$ for an EX-L.
I agree with you about the amount of 08s....I thought the incentives would actually be better, considering what it took for Toyota and Nissan to sell theirs. I think Honda has the best product, but it is not that much better when compared to what Toyota and Nissan was offereing.
I have spent countless hours researching this stuff and I am still lost. I feel like I have gone from one end to another. I've looked at cars like the Mazda 5 (which I think is more my lifestyle...minimalist), SUVs and of course minivans. The one thing I can't wrap my head around to justify a "bigger" car is that we don't take many road trips. I need something for around town. But, I need three rows. I have three boys (3, 22mos., and 3 months). We don't have a lot of "stuff" to haul around except our kids and their car seats and in Colorado a cargo/rocket box on the top is somewhat the norm. Heck I'd use this even with a mini van when we are heading up to the mountains. Anyway, that was off the subject.
If you are interested I would just email a dealer or just call and see if they are offering the extra 2500. I wish I could find that post where someone in CA got that deal as well.
2500 off MSRP is dealer invoice
3500 off is Honda to dealer rebate
Dealer still has the 2 to 3% hold back to play with
Bought '08 Odyssey EX-L with DVD in DFW area for OTD $31,700 with Honda's 2.9 for 60months
It was $30,600 OTD with cash or own finance.
In both the cases, Cost of Ownership after 60 months comes out to be same.
I am curious if anyone has got an EX-L w/ Res for $27000....our taxes are 9.1% here so to get it OTD for $30K cash we need to hit that number.
1 - M.S.R.P. Of $36480. Your special internet price for this vehicle is $29980*. The special internet price includes the destination charge + TTL.
1- Another dealership was willing to bring that down by another $300 around....$29600 + TTL.
is that a pretty good deal......I believe this is reflecting Invoice minus $3500 (cash purchase).