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I'll be first in line to get one of these babies, if I enjoy the test drive.
One called tonight and said he received brochures on Friday. I'll see tomorrow, but it may just be some type of informational pamphlet.
I am interested in seeing the additional pictures in the brochure. Especially ones with the production wheel covers, and the 16 and 17 inch alloys. I have seen several different styles of wheels between the prototype photos and the latest previews. The wheels in the latest pictures don't look as sharp as the ones on the prototypes (as usual). I hope that for $800, GM can at least put on something decent. Spare us any overstyled Pontiac leftovers.
One thing I don't understand is, the 17" alloys cannot be ordered with the power sunroof. Maybe the cars with 17" alloys have an extra roll-bar type thing for extra chassis rigidity, a la Subaru WRX?
It looks like the Aztek gave body-side cladding a bad name but arguably when use sparingly it does complement the look. A nice comparison is on GM Canada's Vibe showroom page ( http://www.gmcanada.com/english/vehicles/pontiac/vibe/vibe_showroom.html )
So everyone else can fight over the body coloured cladding while I save $500 and get the ugly looking cladding.
Looks good overall.
IMO, the Graphite cloth looks better than the Slate cloth. Both are available for all exterior colors.
I can't tell from the brochure if the door handles will be body colored or not. One picture with the gray cladding shows body colored handles, yet others show black handles. ??
As for the wheels, I don't know. Of course, you can always get aftermarket wheels, roofs and audio and your dealer may be able to set up your vehicle just how you like it prior to delivery.
Still no CDN pricing. Ugg!
Thinking of ordering a VUE (zero risk as they have a full $$ back guarantee), but if the Vibe comes in cheaper and I like it, I may go for a Vibe.
As for the Vue, I like the fact that it is longer and the styling is kind of nice (also would look much better imho with body colored bumpers). However, I think the interior is abysmally cheap looking, particularly the door trim. I just can't get past that awful cheap looking arm rest and hard plastic door decor. Vibe interior is light years better. VUE 4cyl.,fwd, auto well equipped is about the same price as a comparably equipped
Vibe.
Hmmmmm.....
(sigh)
cayennered1 : I think the V6 VUE is not a great value. I do think the 4 cyl models are though, and the interior was ok with me, no worse than Tribute or CR-V IMO. Exterior of the VUE is excellent from every angle and the dealership service is always good at Saturn. Still waiting on CDN Vibe pricing though. Still like the cladding!
The dealer should have a full stock of them by early March.
Pricing should be announced early next week.
To n8magic- I look forward to hearing about your test drive. Do you have a deposit down on one, or are you just checking it out...? Thanks for your participation. ;-)
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What I am probably going to end up doing is taking out a Matrix (local dealer is a stones throw from the Cambridge plant) and seeing if I like it's drivability, etc., just to get a feel of how the Vibe will handle.
I have to wait for the Pontiac, no matter how much I like the Matrix, because my company gets a fleet volume discount on all GM products. My local Pontiac dealer has already said he would honor the discount the first day he gets a Vibe in stock.
We were quite impressed.
Despite only having 123hp and being the heaviest of the models, I found that it had pretty decent acceleration (even with an automatic transmission). The car felt pretty good on the curves although I didn't really try to "push it". It felt quite solid and had a relatively quiet ride despite a somewhat buzzy sounding engine. Overall, it was a fun little car to drive.
Even though we like the looks of the Matrix better, we're considering the Vibe primarily due to the prospects of getting a supplier discount through my company. Now that I think about it, I should have asked to talk to a manager about it since the salesperson we spoke to was new and did not know much about the program. He did mention that he expected there to be a markup on the car since they are not expecting any in high volumes for sometime (ironic since the NUMI plant is just a few miles away.)
Anyway, we'll probably test drive a Matrix as well before making any decisions...
I was watching FOX from NYC via satellite.
Also, does anyone here think it would be helpful to also have "Toyota Matrix vs. Pontiac Vibe" discussion for those considering one over the other...? Let me know, I will start one up on the Station Wagons boards if people are interested. Talk later.
Revka
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All I know is that it was cheaper for me to buy my snowshoes in Smithers, B.C. than in California!
Companies basically subsidize the price in Canada with the labor used to build cars shipped to the US. A car imported from the U.S. is sold for less here, but offset by a car that cost less to build here and is shipped to the U.S. All the car companies do it, they have to as they can't charge 5% more here just because the currency has fallen 5% in a year. People won't buy.
We got a new CR-V 5-speed for my wife. It scoots. I may trade my car for a Vibe if GM ever brings 'em to market. Saw a few car carriers on the weekend headed down the 401 toward Detroit with Toyo Matrix. Anyone near the NuMMI plant see Vibe leave the place? I don't unerstand or like the baiting GM did on this car - advertising it for a year before it comes out. IMO, too much marketing, too little product.
I would LOVE to know what he really thinks about the Vibe (and its DUMB marketing to young twenty-somethings). I would also love to know if his thoughts will influence the future of this car.
As for me, I am still trying to recover from the fact that comparably equipped Matrices (IF they existed, which they probably won't--Toyota likes to build cars only about four ways at any given time and sell options ONLY in packages) are 1500 to 2000 US dollars less than the Vibe.
The base Matrix 4WD costs the same as an automatic Subaru Impreza TS wagon, except that the Impreza has AC, power windows and doors, etc. and most importantly 165hp compared to 123hp. and of course it is a proven design. The Vibe AWD is almost the price of a base Legacy! I can't believe the Pontiac dealers think they are too cheap.
Matrix and Vibe are new so there probably won't be any good incentives to buy them until next year either.
If the Suzuki Aerio SX comes out equipped as listed (AC, CD/AM/FM, power, RKE, tilt, cruise, 141hp, 135ft.-lbs) for under $15000USD as they say on the web page, then I don't think I'll be getting a Vibe or Matrix. I guess we'll see in a month when Suzuki announces the real prices.
Local dealer told me Vibes will be in with in the next 2 weeks. We shall see.
New CR-V is nice. I wish they had the 2WD available up here.
XR Automatic w/B Package, Mats, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $18,399 / Vibe w/Power Group, Auto, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $18,770.
XR Automatic w/C Package, Mats, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $19,829 / Vibe w/Power Group, Auto, Moon & Tunes, Alloy Wheels, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $19,670.
XR AWD Automatic w/B Package, Mats, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $20,954/ Vibe AWD w/Power Group, Moon & Tunes, Alloy Wheels, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $21,970.
XRS w/B Group, Mats, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $21,599 / Vibe GT w/ Power Group, Side Bags, Alloy Wheels, Moon & Tunes, First Aid Kit, Bumper Protector, Cargo Mat, and Security $22,170.
Hope this helps. Also keep in mind the GM Card rebate of $1,000 max for the Vibe.
GM isn't innovating. These are just Toyota engines from the Celica. I don't know if there is technology sharing here that will show up in future products or just engine supply sharing for this car and its twin.