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If your request is placed early enough in the month, you can the EXACT car you are looking for. We do this all the time. However, once the allocation comes to us (at the end of the month)then we have to make a choice as to the colors and models. We will then use the SWAG method. If you've been in the military you know what SWAG is.
Honda does have certain restrictions on some models, for example, at the first allocations for the 2002 we could only get 40% of our orders as leather/dvd/nav units. They were having some supplier issues. I think that they have worked out theose issues. Also our total allocation is SKU'd toward certain models, and we have to take them...for example the LX.
We are now going through the time of the year when Honda cuts back on their production, so dealers probably wont be getting the same numbers of Odysseys that they were a couple of months ago. DX's or Dealer exchanges are almost non-existent with Odysseys and S2000's.
Hope this helps.
Jerry
Thanks in advance!
will get it at around $2500.00 under sticker. Thanks.........
Hope this helps.
Regards,
In addition the DVD player will play VCD (Video CDs) on CD-RW media. I made a VCD this weekend of some PBS shows for my kids. It took some work and some help from vcdhelper.com but it was a success.
2002 RedRock EX
Chris Taylor
It will indeed help with the lists on the Ody and teh MDX but keep in mind Honda also plans an Acura version of the Ody and a Honda version of the MDX. While I expect the waiting list to go I don't think We're looking at discounted Odys any time in the near future.
Of course I just bought mine, so maybe it's wishful thinking....
If they didn't make such a good product I might be more upset - or might have bought something else....
My understanding that bonuses are tied to their CSI score so they want only excellents.
I decided that, even though no one is perfect, that I wanted to play the game, the way the game is played. The dealer has treated me well with some problems, but overall I am satisfied. So I gave them a perfect score, so far.
It is that way at a number of other places also. For example at many colleges and universities an average grade is now an A. At Harvard, 91% of the undergraduate class graduates with honors. Honors use to be reserved for about the top 25%. In the military you want your evaluation report to be perfect or you probably will not be promoted.
So giving the dealer a perfect score means, not that he is perfect. It just means that he is doing a satisfactory job. The words perfect and excellent have been redefined, from what they use to mean.
Drew
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Did not have to wait long. Called dealer end of September, signed paperwork last Monday, came in last Thursday. Whole process took a little under three weeks.
Would have had to wait until "sometime after the end of the year" for a MB EXL/RES, so we decided to go aftermarket. Scheduled for install tomorrow, Audiovox 6.8" Monitor, DVD player, FM modulator, TV tuner, 2 wireless headphones, converter for plugging in Playstation, everything installed w/ tax for $1200. This also includes installing the in-dash CD-changer we got from Dalt's Honda in Canada, which coincidentally came in today (thanks to people on the board who brought this up, what a deal!)
So far very happy with the vehicle. Power doors have not been as intuitive as I would have liked, and the speakers could be better.
Thanks,
John
I do hit it gently, when this happens. But still, I don't like the sound it makes of metal hitting. I hope I am not damaging anything underneath.
I would be surprised if it were anything other than Canada at this point.
Drew
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BUT - I'm happy to report that I discovered Ocean Honda (831-464-1500) in Capitola, just south of Santa Cruz. I just took delivery today of my 2002 GG EX-L for exactly MSRP (plus destination charge) and no other charges except tax (love that CA sales tax), license, a $5 "CA tire fee" and a $45 doc preparation fee. All Ocean Honda staff I dealt with were pleasant and low key, and I was very happy with the buying experience.
If you're interested, contact Shawn who handles Internet sales, and tell her you were referred by Greg of Palo Alto. A couple things you should know: she told me that when they get a new Odyssey in, they give priority to local residents. If it doesn't sell to a local after 24 hours, they then open it up to outsiders (which includes the Bay Area), and then it's "first come first served" to the first qualified buyer to walk in the door -- they won't hold the vehicle.
So the way this played out in my case: I originally called Shawn on a Thursday with my preferred colors. She called me on Saturday saying a GG EX-L had just become available. So I dropped everything and made the 45-minute drive. She had my cell phone so she could call me in case someone walked in the door and beat me to it. The GG EX-L was fresh off the truck and hadn't been prepped. I looked it over to my satisfaction and signed the papers and paid for it. I had already arranged financing through my credit union, so it was essentially a cash purchase. They were offering Honda financing at 6.45%, but my credit union is at 6.2% (and I'm going to refinance with a home equity loan after that to get tax-deductible interest). I then picked it up today -- they did a good job explaining all the features to me.
So, I wound up making two 1.5-hour round trips to save $1,000.00, which I am happy to do anytime. From my one data point, prices may be coming down in the Bay Area proper: the local Palo Alto Honda dealer was quoting $2500 over MSRP as of Sep 24, and is now quoting $1000 over MSRP. A week ago a dealer in Fremont was $1000 over MSRP, but the 4-5 other dealers I've contacted in the past two weeks were all $1500 or more over. I guess even with the tech slowdown, there are enough people in the Silicon Valley area that can't be bothered to save $1000+.
So here is the deal:
Item Retail
2002 EX-L
just off the truck with NAV: $30,690
Cassette $199 plus install = $325
CD-Changer $480 plus install = $530
TOTAL $31,545
Price we paid: $31,190 (essentially, the audio parts + install for $500)
Net off MSRP: $355
WOW! I never expected this. The dealer was extremely flexible, and the entire time, dealt with me on the phone (they were 90 miles from home so the incentive was there).
It gets better: MATCHED Eloan.com’s interest rate on a 60 month loan @ 6.19%
Add-ons? $5 tire fee, $45 doc fee, 8% tax and 247 DMV/lic fee.
Even better: Delivered in-person to my front door!!
This is how all cars should be purchased. I think all here would agree.
To help others on those waiting lists, these are the 4 dealers that will deal at MSRP if you leave a credit card for $500 deposit:
1. Gardena Honda-I waited 40 days, and was promised only 30. Now they promised an additional 21. My neighbor waited 5 mos for their 2000 model 2 yrs ago.
2. Nelson Honda (El Monte)- very nice, no promises but they sounded encouraging. Only on their list for a week
3. Weseloh, San Juan Capistrano- Rumour has it that their wait is >3 months. Only on their list a week. Heard that they just took 5 deposits in 1st week after someone posted them here.
4. Villa Honda, Hemet – on their list 50 days, still no car in sight.
Several others are at MSRP or $500 over: Metro, Rock, Valley High (tho after that Metro post, I would be leery)
As for the drive, it is much quieter than the 1999 I drove for a while. Not sure about pickup (still babying the car). It feels like a van, but one of the smoothest I’ve driven. Not as smooth as an RX300, though. More on a par with a Sequoia.
The NAV is awesome. Not a plasma or LCD screen but true TV screen, all touch-screen. Very intuitive, very helpful in guiding you. Also gives you passing landmarks (for ex., a Shelloil logo pops up as you approach a Shell station). Has restaurants, ATMs, phone #s, really a great thing. Pricey, though at $2K.
Sorry for the long post, but this board helped me tremendously with these types of posts.
Also some of the greatest characters. I remember Cal Worthington, the car dealer that advertised on TV all the time, with his dog spot. He was invited to speak at the graduation of the Newbury Park high school where I use to live, by the students. The parents decided at the last minute to uninvited him, because they decided that they did not want someone like a car dealer to be the speaker. I always thought that the parents made the wrong decision.
Steve
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My salesperson, James Hope, delivered the car himself, extremely nice and thoughtful. Some of his superiors did not support the deal, but John Cable did. James is off for a week, and John is back Friday, 10-19.
I am certain they would do it again on an in-stock Oddy.
Oddy1, sounds like a good deal, you paid much less than I did ($1000 over MSRP for a MB EX-L). I think you got nailed on the CD changer though, I ordered the in-dash 6-disc changer from Dalt's in Canada and paid $150 (including shipping), the car stereo place installed it for me for free.
Funny thing, I've had the DVD system on constantly while driving with my 20 month old, and at stop lights I find people in cars behind me watching the screen! Only had the thing two days, and she's already saying, "movie movie movie" whenever we get in the car. We've created a monster!
Visit the site at http://www.speedhut.com and check out the cool colors.
While you're at the site, click on "EL DIALS", then click "WHERE'S MY CAR?", and fill out the short form expressing your interest in having indiglo gauges available for the Ody. You're under no obligation to buy anything nor will you receive any solicitations. I'm not affiliated with this company in any way whatsoever. I'm just a future 2002 Ody owner who would like to see these gauges offered for the Ody.
Thanks!
any information would be appreciated.
thanks. harold.
From what I understand (or read somewhere) For Odys with NAV they put the unit under the passenger seat. And the driver seat doesnt have enough clearance due to electric moving driver seat. So where do they place the CD changer?