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Any word on Hyundai resolving the problem with the oil pan drainage plug. Seems like a number of postings mention this issue and resolve it with aftermarket add-ons. What would keep Hyundai from addressing this?
Cost maybe? FWIW, I don't think that there is a "problem" with the drain pan, per se. Just that maybe using a brass insert in the ribbed aluminum pan as a design improvement would "ruggedize" the threads and make it less susceptible to stripping by the untrained "oil changer".
Many of these people don't realise that there is a torque specification on oil pan plugs and I am sure not many (a) use a fresh compression washer every time, or (b) use a torque wrench on the plug.
In the interim, I would suggest (if you don't want to change it yourself) getting a Fumoto valve as described on the Drivers & Believers website. That way they never have to unscrew anything. I just ordered one myself (less than $30 total for one with nipple) in anticipation of my upcoming 10,500 mile oil change.
I sent you a couple of emails regarding the weights of the factory GT wheels and have not had the pleasure of a reply. Maybe I was using an old email address.
There were also a couple of other questions I had. Could you please email me (wmoses@houston.rr.com) and I will re-send the email.
I live near you on Long Island and I average about 24 mpg (with a heavy foot). I think your foot is a little heavier.
Watch out for those pot holes in the city! I have a friend with 17" wheels and he cracked both of them one day coming back from NYC.
Speaking of trips I was crazy enough to be driving to Conn Monday during that high wind/rain storm. All roads were heavily flooded. The GT felt stable and solid the whole 2 1/2 hr trip to Lime Rock. Even on the Throgs Neck Bridge where the wind and rain were sideways (hurricane force) the GT was stable. I have new respect for the Michelin tires (though I still think they cost too much). At one point we were heading down a fairly steep hill on a rain soaked road and I notice the light turned red sooner than anticipated. I jumped all over the brakes (normally a no-no with non-abs) and the car came to smooth non-eventful stop. My friend commented that we were pulling a high amount of G s in the wet. Credit the tire compound and the 4-wheel disc brakes.
I've had other new cars do this. When my GT was new the idle would literally hang at 2K rpm sometimes and slowly return to 750 rpm. Some people have had the idle solenoid changed with good results.
PS: It really isnt nessecary to post the same question to the GT and sedan list. Just post to the appropriate list. It will be seen (I saw both).
i do not know the weight of the gt wheel best bet to find out would be to look on ebay for a set and find out the shipping weight... in comparison... the gt i drive is slower than my sister's gls of the same if not newer model year... reasons being... slightly heavier gt b/c of it glass and hatch...and los the increased rolling resistance of the 17 inch wheel and larger contact patch... but I like the looks of my rims better....
as for the bugflector accesory... i thought about it and decided to go without it or the hood bra.. expensiver for one... and i did not want anything to spoil the lines of the hood... and in my opinion a car should not have a bugflector on it... its reserved for trucks...
but they do work... i drove to binghamton in family landcruiser thats equipped with grille gaurd and aformentioned bugflector... not may bugs on windshield... but tons on front end of car.. all ove rthe grille gaurda and grille itself...
drove the same route 2 days ago in the GT... though i started driving back at 5 instead of 2 pm... (more mosquito's at night) no bugflector on gt and the car looks like someone stood in front of it with a gattling gun full of mosquito's and fired away at it.. some bug guts ran the distance from top of grill to washer nozzles... nasty...and of course i forgot to wipe off my windshield when I stopped for gas...ended up not being able to see the huge potholes i hit on the Cross bronx expressway...
my old montero 2 door... the box that it was had a deflector and still had bugs kamikaze onto the windhshield when i drove to school in rochester ny... so the effectiveness depends on speed of car and aerodynamics of said car...
Thanks for the response on the weight of the wheels. I figured that you had to have gotten a new email address, and that was confirmed after I saw your new subscription to the Elantra GT mailing list. I sent you an email to your new address before reading this forum.
As for the increased rolling resistance of the larger wheels -- you are absolutely right. Many people don't realise (or don't care) that this is the penalty for nice fat wheels. Putting more grip means loss of velocity and that can only be offset by increasing horsepower and torque. :-)
Good suggestion about checking on eBay or wherever for a set of wheels for sale and getting the weight from that, although if it is only an estimate then it would not be accurate. I will only change to a wheel of equal or lighter weight.
I liked how you described the bit about the bug guts obscuring your vision so much that you hit the potholes -- hope the rims are not damaged. I feel the same way as you do regarding bug deflectors and hate hood bras because they scuff-damage the paint.
I moved to Arizona from Indiana in July with my GTi (auto tranny) and it performed flawlessly on the 2,000 mile trip while loaded out to the max with the back seats down. I have no idea how I packed so much crap in to it, but it handled perfectly and endeared itself to me forever.
Engine has loosened up considerably now as I am approaching 7K miles.
I was also delighted that my GT was the only one I had seen in Tucson... until I saw another one parked in a parking lot just the other day. I think that guy and me are the only two GTers in southern Arizona.
I love my car... and so do the ladies.
Does anybody know anything about any recall on the Elantra GT for weak C-pillars (that's what my uncle told me) or is my uncle smoking too much buddha?
Thanks much,
archangel4
So anyway this cutie is driving the car with a friend of hers (another girl in the front seat). I let them get up ahead of me a little ways, they get in the right lane, and after a minute or so I am feeling the love so now it's my turn... i take to the passing lane and as I pull up next to them they are like waving at me and stuff. It was GT love, through and through.
So anyway I get up ahead of them now, and we are driving for a while... I see in my rear view mirror that they move in to the left lane and are preparing to pass me, but about that time I'm coming up behind a semi truck that is slow moving, so when they get up close to me on the left, I jump over and take the left lane in front of them, push the accelerator down and blast off... of course I blow the semi away and rocket up about a quarter mile ahead of the girls. I retake the right lane and decrease speed. I see the girls coming up on my left hand side and as they pass me by, all I see is the driver nodding her head in an "awwww yeah" fashion and the girl in the passenger seat, whose face I can't see, is giving me the "raise the roof" sign with her hands.
It was absolutely classic. Had to share it with you all. I love what this car does to people. And please, if you see another GTer on the road, stop and recognize, and share the love.
Thanks,
archangel4
Does anyone know about this and is there any way I can find out? Should I just talk to my local dealer about what modifications are allowed and what are not?
Thanks,
archangel4
It does carry cargo well,eh? I'm a musician and I cant believe how much equipment I can stuff into it. I've heard peolpe say that the engine continues to loosen even after 10K. There are GTs all around me (I live 1 block from the dealer).
Post #2524
I've not heard of any such recall. What would they do cut and reweld them? Really I thing he is smoking something.
Post #2525
Sounds like a good car for single guys like us. I've not had that encounter. Course for something like that to happen in NY it would have to be 3:00 am in the morning (no traffic-space on the roads). Cool...
Post #2526
My present mods:
1) K&N air filter
2) B&M short shift kit
3) Fumoto oil drain valve
4) McCulloch HID low beam system
5) Fiamm two tone horns
6) 17 inch black antenna
I've been to the dealer with these numerous times and they never made a comment. I'm hearing the same thing from other Elantra owners. I believe it goes like this...If you are having a problem with a particular system in the car you must remove the mod (related to that system) and prove to the dealer that your mod was/is not causing the problem. All dealers are slighly different on this and I would talk to your service writer.
As I contemplate ownership of a GT near the end of the model year, I was wondering about the possibility of getting a better deal on an '02 as the model year winds down. Any idea when the '03s arrive, and if in fact just prior to that is a good time to get a "last minute" deal on an '02? I don't really care about the depreciation issues on an '02 vs '03, as I will almost certainly drive the GT as long as it will drive....
Sorry if all of this has been posted previously.
Press Release:
Hyundai Motor America Announces Horsepower Rating Errors
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., September 9, 2002 - Hyundai Motor America (HMA) announced today that the horsepower ratings on some of its vehicles have been mistakenly reported in the company's marketing materials. The error applies to the materials only and has no impact on the safety or reliability of any vehicles.
The ratings error involves a number of vehicle lines over a period of several years, with a weighted average overstatement of 4.6 horsepower.
These errors occurred because Hyundai Motor America did not have an established procedure in place to verify that our preliminary horsepower figures matched the actual horsepower.
"I am very regretful for these errors and for any concerns it raises among Hyundai customers," said HMA President and CEO Finbarr O'Neill. "We are announcing these errors because we want our relationship with our customers, our dealers, and all our business partners to be open and honest. We are also offering our assurance that we are taking aggressive measures to prevent errors of this nature from happening again."
"As an expression of goodwill and an attempt to demonstrate how important Hyundai customers are to us, we are offering certain enhancements to those individuals whose model's horsepower ratings were misprinted by more than four percent. For the 2000 model year forward we offer a choice of three warranty-enhancement options or, for 1999 model year and earlier vehicles, five-year roadside assistance coverage," said O'Neill. The warranty-enhancement options for 2000 model year forward include:
> Extending Roadside Assistance Benefit from five years/unlimited miles to 10 years unlimited miles, or
> Extending New Vehicle Limited Warranty from five years/60,000 miles to 6 years/72,000 miles, or
> Extending Powertrain Limited Warranty from 10 years/100,000 miles to 12 years/120,000 miles for original owners
The owners or lessees of the identified vehicles will receive a letter from HMA over the course of the next few weeks detailing these options and providing information on how they can be
activated. In the interim, customers can obtain information about these options by contacting a special toll-free consumer hotline at 800-218-9797 or contacting www.hyundaistatus.com
To ensure against any future error, Hyundai Motor America has also established procedures that include ensuring only actual horsepower ratings for each engine are used in marketing materials. Prior to publication, materials will be approved by the Director of Engineering and Design Analysis to ensure numbers match correct horsepower ratings.
Hyundai Motor America, headquartered in Fountain Valley, Calif., is a subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Company of Korea. Hyundai cars and sport utility vehicles are distributed in the U.S. by Hyundai Motor America and are sold and serviced by more than 590 dealers nationwide. Hyundai stands behind the quality and performance of its vehicles 100 percent and backs them with America's Best Warranty.
"in today's PD they admitted to overstating horsepower of cars. about 4.6 hp. .
they're offering owners of 2000 and newer choice of extending roadside assistance to 10 yrs from
5, increasing warranty to 6 yts or 72k miles from 5/60 or lengthening powertrain warranty to 12
yrs or 120k from 10/100. Get to your dealer to make a deal."
Guess we need to find out which models this might pertain to...
another note, I have 17K mi on my 01 gt and love it so far.
Only problems w/ mine so far has been:
driver door lock wont lock/unlock w/ keyless entry anymore
Check engine light came on due to some sensor by gas tank-( I was told that it wasn't gas cap related) but got fixed.
I did a no no the other day trying to clean bugs off my car w. a power spayer at the self serve car wash. Using high power rinse I accidentally sprayed off about an inch of red paint/tape?? off the front bumpe, now has exposed black color.
Anyways my car runs great, and the locks will be looked at during next oil change.
Still happy in Ohio
markj
The website is http://www.hyundaiupdate.ca/english/index.asp
(and no, my 2002 GT didn't qualify)
http://www.hyundaistatus.com
2.0L I-4 (140 hp) 135 hp
2.4L I-4 (149 hp) 138 hp
2.5L V-6 (170 hp) 163 hp
2.7L V-6 (181 hp) 170 hp
Of the engines noted, it seems that all but the 2.0L (all late-model Elantras and most Tiburons) are eligible for the enhancements listed in HMA's recent press release.
Obviously, these are just numbers. If you've heretofore been happy with your model's performance, nothing's really changed.
Does anyone know where I can find a full size (not the lip) 2002 Elantra GT rear spoiler and how much the approx. cost might be.
For music lovers, I have installed the Blaupunkt Tampa Bay CD51 receiver and Blaupunkt IDC-A09 IN DASH 5-CD changer. They fit nicely and colors perfectly coordinate with the interior and purple dash. The units plus installation was around $400 and is worth it. Might post some picture soon.
Also, some poeple have put celica spoilers on the GT, maybe input from them would help out.
I like the celica and gls spoiler instead of the small strip for the GT
markj
Anything would be better than the BORING lip spoiler Hyundai is offering.
I always thought the main appeal of all the cars in this class was price, cheapness to operate (insure, gas up, etc), and great warranties (in the case Of Hyundai and Kia)...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
for the elentras and tibs,140 was a number that was about 10-20 higher than many models in this group,and the 10-20 more horses was an important factor on people's check list when the final choices were made,even more important 2-3 years ago than now.Check the old posts 2-3 years back and you will see my point.I believe hyundai will lose customers because of this.It may not be because of the inflated horses,it's the pattern,and people will start wondering 'what else ?'.
Just my .02 cents