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Not sure of the pricing, but here is a phone number to call that should help: 1-800-GM-Giant.
Also, check out this web site if you haven't already:
http://www.gmemployees.com/faq.shtml
good luck
But in response to your questions: I have a new TrailBlazer. The combined city and highway driving will probably give you about 16-17 MPG. I drive almost all highway miles, so its hard to guess. I have found the interior to be very confortable so far, and ergonomics are great. The engine is awesome...really moves when you want it to, but still purrs like a cat. As far as durability, I guess we'll all have to wait and see how it stands the test of time. It certainly seems made well, and I'm sure GM has no interest in making a vehicle that will not stand up to the likes of the Explorer, Pathfinder and 4Runner. Sorry can't help more, but durability is proven over time.
Good Luck
MSRP: $31,045
Invoice: $28,095
Cost: $27,764
GMS: $28,874
Hope this helps give you ball park figures of how much you'll save. Too bad there's not currently any incentives, as they would also apply on top of the GMS savings...
Has anyone else had this problem? I'm taking it in next week to have looked at...
Select employee, family of employee, whatever applies. It will bring up another window where you enter your soc. security # if you are a GM employee, or enter your sponser's soc. security #. You will be able to build your own vehicle with GMS/GMO pricing shown.
My TB had a list price of $29,300, and I was able to purchase it for about $27,000. This is one great vehicle at that price point. I would totally endorse anyone purchasing a Trailblazer.
MSRP 35,635 (including shipping)
Invoice 32,113
I Paid: 32,124 (actual supplier price was 32,304)
A reputable dealer will show you the printed GMS price that comes from GM.
Good Luck!
Debbie
The Bose system in the Bravada that I have is not quite as useful. After reading more about it I found out what you did, it doesn't actually increase/decrease the volume but it changes the tone, much like the old "loudness" button did on older stereos. My complaint is that it doesn't do what it should (afterall, the button is still labeled "auto vol"). When I get off the freeway the volume remains at the same level and sounds too loud. When I get on the freeway, the volume remains at the same level and sounds to faint.
In my opinion, they should have not fiddled with it and just let it do it's job as the other stereos do. Afterall, this is a vehicle, you are NEVER going to get the sound quality of a home stereo yet you will always have the problem of increased ambient noise.
It only furthers my complaint of people looking at a very small segment of consumers (those who think they are audiophiles yet won't look at the science of sound and realize that a vehicle is not the ideal place to smooth your listening senses) and changing things, to the detriment of the majority of consumers, to please these few. This complaint also includes the manufacturers zeal to please the auto magazine editors by putting the gear lever on the floor console where it wastes space instead of on the column where it is out of the way.
Have you tried to use your front cupholder while the vehicle is in park? Obviously they didn't.
Fuel, Engine Temperature, Battery Voltage dials. A month ago while on vacation, I noticed that on a morning start up all the gauges mention were to their extreme right position: Full, 135deg C, and 21 Volts. This problem persisted till the next day (after about 5 -7 restarts). Onstar did not find anything unusual. When we were home I went to the dealer. Apparently, there is a service bulletin to reprogram the "firm ware" of this instrument cluster. Has anyone notice this problem as well?
On this subject does anyone have some feedback on the accuracy of the temperature dial? The reason I am asking is that on a good long hill climb ( 20 minutes at 4000 RPM and 50MPH/90KMH), the engine fan kicks in, but there is no change in temperature dial reading??.
Suspension
On a locked turn left, and hitting a moderate bump,moderate speed, there is a clunk in the front. It sounds like parts rubbing.
Fuel Filler gasket
The visible filler gasket that is supposed to catch spilled gas is badly cracked (4 months old), it looks like 5 years old. It is going to be replaced, but none-the-less.
Engine power
Again after a "long" hill climb, it seems that the engine lost some of its pick-up and go. Does any one know what indicates failure of the variable valve timing actuator? Even now, back in the city, the acceleration is lack luster. Maybe I am used to the engine's torque by now and want more ;-).
Thanks for your feedback.
Steve
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My wife and I are currently evaluating 2WD Envoys v. 2002 2WD Mountaineers (V6). Envoy is pretty much winning in all categories except (i) no 3rd row seat (but not really a factor) and (ii) lack of cupholders in front two seats. In the Mountaineer (and Explorer) the front passengers get four generous cupholders (two in the doors and two in the center console). The Envoy only provides one good cupholder while the other seems to be more suited for holding change.
Any thoughts on this situation from Envoy owners? How do you cope?
I preferred the column shifter that my previous Blazer had. That was a plus for the Explorer but I have become very accustomed to tilt steering wheels and use it almost subconsciously. I still cannot believe that Ford went to that awful japanese design where you have to reach under, pull a lever, adjust, push a lever. That was the worst possible change they could have made.
Regarding the CG comparison. I also thought that an Eddie Bauer or Limited (they both cost the same) would have been a better suit. I was reminded of something though. I'm not sure why but there were only XLTs anywhere to be found (here in Atlanta anyway) until the beginning of June. That includes the dozens they had on the lots. I just saw my first Eddie Bauer only a couple weeks ago and have yet to see a Limited. I'm not sure when the test was done but maybe the XLT was the only one they could get. They couldn't even get better for the Auto Show here in March.
#1697 of 1976 Pegged Gauges. The final fix (I Hope) by flyguy5 Jul 18, 2001 (04:39 pm)
All my gauges died today!.. Yesterday they reprogrammed the computer that controls this and today after I had driven about 20 miles, ran an errand and then restarted none of the gauges worked. No speedo, tach, odometer or the others. Happened to be across the street from the dealer and brought it in. The mechanic checked the codes and says it is the "Body Module". They have ordered one and they think this will fix it....., checks in the mail etc... They checked the parts database and there are only 5 of these available in the US. It should be in Monday. We'll keep you informed.
Has anyone noticed though that the rubber boots inside come out on bottles pretty easily though? Lost one as I tossed a bottle out and must not have noticed it...oops!
The shifter location though...that's a personal preference. I tend to drive through gears and generally like the location as a hand rest. Last car I had with a column shifter was a boring sedan in the mid 80's....and an Olds Ciera Rental car. Just me I guess.
tim
again, not condoning...just informing.
- I can get the MSRP from the gmcanada web site, but what are people actually paying in Canada? Anyone know where I can find invoice prices? (I'm looking at a TB LT, 4wd, leather, etc...)
- umm, actually that's my only question!
Thanks for any input.
As for invoice prices for Canada, goto www.carcostcanada.com. For a reasonable fe one can purchase dealer invoice info.
In the US we are lucky enough to have great web sites like Edmonds and Carsdirect.com, etc. In Canada it is quite a different story. The US sites are free...In Canada, every site that offered invoice prices charged a fee for info.
The rule of thumb is to take between 8.5% and 11% off the MSRP. I think you will get a great "ball park" figure if you reduce the MSRP by 9%.
Remember: When negotiating with the dealer, work up from the estimated Invoice Price and not down from the MSRP. Expect to pay between $200 and $500 dollars over invoice. I paid $500 over invoice in Boston, MA (I know, I know, many of you got better deals). But I also negotiated free oil changes and free tire rotation for as long as own the vehicle.
I wish you good luck, and I hope this helps.
I don't believe GMAC uses money factors...they use percentages. Not saying 3.3% isn't correct, as I haven't seen the latest lease ladder chart, but percentages nonetheless.
The TB did very well in the eyes of all those responding. Sure there were a few low and very low ratings, but check out the Explorer....every other one was poor and several even mention to go buy a Trailblazer!
tim
Slowly, but surely, GM and Ford are getting their products "right", and this includes the Explorer. Unfotunately GM has lost a lot of customers that will not ever return. This is evident by their market share declining from about 45% to 26%. Let's hope the slide is over and it reverses years of declining sales/poor quality products that no one wants.
Test drive was short, but good. Been a while since I've driven a big truck, so had to get used to the 'feel'. Noticed the roof-rack wind noise even at moderate speed... not a big deal. The TB's definately at the top of my list right now.
jim f
I bought my Trailblazer LT at dealer cost because I have A relative that works for GM, here is the break down.
TB LT, ISE package, leather, moonroof, running boards, drivers convenience pkg. MSRP 45550.00
I paid though the Gm employee discount 39439.00
tim
GM employee discount is dealer cost.